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Walter Fisher

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Dec 5, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/5/99
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Hi:

I am looking for a few juxtapositions of modern art and fine art, treating
the same theme, for example: a portrait of a woman by Picasso vs. a similar
portrait by Rembrandt. Since I would like to put these comparisons on my web
site, such images of paintings or sculptures should be free from copyright
restraints.

I hope I will not get lynched for even implying that modern art and fine art
might be different concepts.

Any suggestions anyone?

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Walter Idema

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Dec 5, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/5/99
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Walter Fisher <w...@xsan.rr.com> wrote

>
> I am looking for a few juxtapositions of modern art and fine art, treating
> the same theme, for example: a portrait of a woman by Picasso vs. a
similar
> portrait by Rembrandt. Since I would like to put these comparisons on my
web
> site, such images of paintings or sculptures should be free from copyright
> restraints.
>
> I hope I will not get lynched for even implying that modern art and fine
art
> might be different concepts.
>
> Any suggestions anyone?
>
I have been looking for similar comparisons myself, though more subtle. I
would find it far more interesting and educational to compare traditional
realism and modern realism. It may be a more popular to discuss and even
argue the comparison of fine art to modern art and you may get more miles
out of it, but it wouldn't hurt to compare the realistic painters of old to
the realistic painters of today.

(But then, as long as I may indulge tangents, you could also compare
pointallism and impressionism. Or if I sound facetious, there are also
comparisons in the use of planes and perspective. These are attempts at
subtle humor.)

Erik A. Mattila

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Dec 5, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/5/99
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I recommend George Kubler's: THE SHAPE OF TIME: REMARKS ON THE HISTORY OF
THINGS as a good jumping off place for this sort of inquiry. It is Kubler's
magum opus in the art theory area, and focuses on the problem of genre, sytle,
and periodization in art history. He talks much on long continuums in Western
art history, such as landscape paintings, and argues why we should see Roman
murals and modern (abstract) landscapes (such as Diebenkorn's "Ocean Park"
series) as a continuum. I personally don't agree with his conclusions, but by
Jove, he makes an excellent argument. Unfortunately it is out of print, which
means library time.

But at any rate, a work in theory such as this gives you a good foundation for
this type of inquiry, which is full of classic art history pitfalls, by the
way. One is the infamous 'like begets like inferrence.' Just because two
paintings may resemble one another does not mean there is any relationship
beyond any other two things that resemble each other, like a planet and a beach
ball.

Sounds like both will be interesting projects.

Erik Mattila

Walter Fisher

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Dec 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/7/99
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Thanks everybody. Appreciate the input.

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> Hi:


>
> I am looking for a few juxtapositions of modern art and fine art, treating
> the same theme, for example: a portrait of a woman by Picasso vs. a
similar
> portrait by Rembrandt. Since I would like to put these comparisons on my
web
> site, such images of paintings or sculptures should be free from copyright
> restraints.
>
> I hope I will not get lynched for even implying that modern art and fine
art
> might be different concepts.
>
> Any suggestions anyone?
>

~Artist~

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Dec 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/7/99
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Try using womens art for a change.

Chris

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Dec 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/8/99
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That's a good point, Mattison. Though perhaps it's not the juxtaposition
Walter's looking for, I'd say a good place to start would be comparing
the view of the world between the female & male impressionists, such as
eg Cassatt's view of domestic life (which was very modern, for her time)
vis-a-vis Renoir's (which was classical), and moving on from there. The
reason I pick the era is that it was a time when a massive influx from
many sources quite separate from the traditional ones (women artists,
Japanese art, later African work) opened up European art.

Chris

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