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Stephen Chard

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Mar 1, 2005, 4:13:11 PM3/1/05
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I'm relatively new to oil painting and enjoy doing land scapes. My trouble
is that for me I like, and want to paint very realistic landscapes
(Constable style) but all the books that I have found in the library show
you how to do more abstract landscapes. Can anyone recommend any good books
or websites?
TIA
Steve


the_...@yahoo.com

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Mar 2, 2005, 12:54:08 AM3/2/05
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In order to do realism you have to know
1.realistic drawing technique,
2.surface anatomy, i.e., bones and muscles,
3.shading, i.e., how light strikes solid figure and the color of light
and shadow
4. You may even want to know color theory although color is more
important for abstract art than realist.

Two books that might give you a start are "The Encyclopedia of Art
Techniques," by Tessa Clark, and "The Art of Figure Drawing," by Clem
Robins.

Also be wary of letting certain pigments and other art materials
contact your skin. Colors with cadmium are toxic, so wear surgical
gloves.

You could just try getting a used book of works of a painter you like
and copying them.


the sarp

Mr Clarke

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Mar 2, 2005, 5:27:13 PM3/2/05
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How do you paint on the Trees with a wet sky-blue background?
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Paul Mesken

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Mar 2, 2005, 7:00:02 PM3/2/05
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www.wetcanvas.com is pretty big on "plein air" painting (mostly
landscapes).

Here is the channel :

http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/channels.php?s=&channel_id=38

Larry Seiler is one of its moderators. He's a helpfull and skilled guy
and very good at explaining things. Check him out.


Paul Mesken

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Mar 2, 2005, 7:07:34 PM3/2/05
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On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 22:27:13 -0000, "Mr Clarke"
<ne...@ashley-clarke.com> wrote:

> How do you paint on the Trees with a wet sky-blue background?

ROTFL! :-D

Marc Sabatella

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Mar 3, 2005, 12:58:33 PM3/3/05
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"Stephen Chard" <stephe...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

> I'm relatively new to oil painting and enjoy doing land scapes. My
trouble
> is that for me I like, and want to paint very realistic landscapes
> (Constable style) but all the books that I have found in the library
show
> you how to do more abstract landscapes.

"Abstract"? Either you aren't really using the right word, or your
library has a ppor selection. Any reasonably sized bookstore - like a
Barnes & Noble or some such - or even a decent art supply store - should
have plenty of books on realistic landscape painting. Of course, the
artists who write them might be somewhat more *impressionistic* than
what you want to do, but the principles they describe - linear
perspective, atmospheric perspective, color mixing, painting process,
etc - are the exact same principles you'd use no matter how detailed you
chosoe to get in the end.

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Marc Sabatella
ma...@outsideshore.com

The Outside Shore
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http://www.outsideshore.com/

Andrew D

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Mar 19, 2005, 10:28:53 AM3/19/05
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In article <1109742848.8...@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
the_...@yahoo.com wrote:

[snip]


> 4. You may even want to know color theory although color is more
> important for abstract art than realist.

Huh?

If a colour is "wrong" in an abstract piece, no one but the artist would
know. But if you paint fluoro pink leaves on an oak tree in a realist work
then most people would notice the error.

Competent realist/representational artists understand and apply colour
theory without making colour the be-all and end-all of the finished piece.


Andy D.

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Andy D.

Andrew D

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Mar 19, 2005, 10:30:47 AM3/19/05
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In article <32lc215jsn8fpa910...@4ax.com>, Paul Mesken
<usu...@euronet.nl> wrote:


??? I don't get it? :(

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Paul Mesken

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Mar 19, 2005, 2:59:20 PM3/19/05
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On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 23:30:47 +0800, an...@elsewhere.com (Andrew D)
wrote:

ROTFL means "Rolling On The Floor Laughing". It's stronger than LOL
(Laughing Out Loud). There's also ROTFLMAO (Rolling On The Floor
Laughing My Ass Off).

Erik A. Mattila

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Mar 20, 2005, 12:58:11 AM3/20/05
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What about "Rolling off the window awning's not good" ROTWANG...oops,
that was another conversation, I think. :-|

Andrew D

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Mar 20, 2005, 9:15:30 AM3/20/05
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In article <021p31d541ptg8adj...@4ax.com>, Paul Mesken
<usu...@euronet.nl> wrote:

> On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 23:30:47 +0800, an...@elsewhere.com (Andrew D)
> wrote:
>
> >In article <32lc215jsn8fpa910...@4ax.com>, Paul Mesken
> ><usu...@euronet.nl> wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 22:27:13 -0000, "Mr Clarke"
> >> <ne...@ashley-clarke.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > How do you paint on the Trees with a wet sky-blue background?
> >>
> >> ROTFL! :-D
> >
> >
> >??? I don't get it? :(
>
> ROTFL means "Rolling On The Floor Laughing". It's stronger than LOL
> (Laughing Out Loud). There's also ROTFLMAO (Rolling On The Floor
> Laughing My Ass Off).

That I got - it was the reason for the laughter that whizzed by me. Maybe
I've been away from here for too long.

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