INK and Watercolor Question

[Ted Gies]

Fellow Artists:

I am doing a mixed-media piece with black ink and watercolor and was
wondering about the most successful order of my media use. I plan to
have a superimposed black ink piece over a watercolor painting.

First Off, I am using I think 400 weight paper.

Should I

1) pencil in the drawing first (don't know if it will disappear or will
be covered by the watercolor)? And then trace the drawing with ink.

2) Or wait until the watercolor paint is dry and draw the picture
(pencil then ink) over the color.

3) Or should I lay down the ink drawing and then water color over it.
(My guess is the ink will bleed into the watercolor)

thanks for suggestions!

Ted

[Salmon, John]

Ted, I would use ink first then wash over with watercolour and possibly
touch up with ink after. You would need to use indian or some other
waterproof ink, although under certain lighting conditions they can
appear to have a sheen.

John

[Keith O'Connor]

When I have problems of this nature I use small
scraps of water colour paper to test the various
paper: colour and ink etc., combinations and
select the one that approximates the conditions I
am seeking.

__________tinman end_________

[Cher Ayde]

In article <37FBBD73...@lexis-nexis.com>, ted....@lexis-nexis.com
says...

>
>Fellow Artists:
>
>I am doing a mixed-media piece with black ink and watercolor and was
>wondering about the most successful order of my media use. I plan to
>have a superimposed black ink piece over a watercolor painting.

You are talking about one of my very favorite modes of
doing illustrative watercolors. I use India ink exclusively
for this purpose -- it's WATERPROOF and therefore won't
bleed into your subsequent watercolor layer. What I like
about this mode is that once you watercolor the piece
the pen and ink drawing isn't very obvious to the viewer
and sort of fades from view even though it is very much
still there and still undiminished in intensity by the
watercolor overlays.

For the pen work I use either and ordinary nib pen dipped
into the bottle of ink, or if you can find one, there
are techical pens made to work with WATERPROOF drawing inks of
the kind used by mechanical drawing or architectural drawing
people. I have many different kinds, from ones that look
like ordinary fountain pens to ones that are tube-shaped
for making straight lines in mechl dwgs. All use the
WATERPROOF drawing inks. My favorite ink is a brand name
that is "FW" mfd by Steig Products of Lakewood N.J., USA.
"FW Ink solves the problem of clogging in technical pens."

Well, that claim may be a stretch if you let the pen
dry out by leaving the cap off too long. Dipping it in
water (technical pen) will usually restore the flow.

Another brand I use is HIGGINS India Ink mfd by Faber Castel.

[blackcat]

anything you want will work. If you use indelible India ink, once dry it
will not 'bleed'. Your pencil marks will show unless you use a lot of
watercolor pigment or you could use a lighter paper and place the drawing on
a light box and trace or paint the paper this way. try any and all methods
you have thought of and if you like one more than another then your choice
will be made.
Art is the process, enjoy it.
Jenny Hamilton

Ted Gies <ted....@lexis-nexis.com> wrote in message
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> Fellow Artists:
>
> I am doing a mixed-media piece with black ink and watercolor and was
> wondering about the most successful order of my media use. I plan to
> have a superimposed black ink piece over a watercolor painting.
>