What does the art world need online? Tell hotart.com(mike)
mikecolt
and art lovers to come together. But what is it that
artist need online? What kind of services do you want?
What's more important, exposure or sells or prestige? If
the current way that galleries distrubute art is satisfying
the consumer, then why do consumers buy art off the street
(in my case the beach) as though they were starving for
it. I think the internet should bring the demands of the
public to the artist who can deliver the unique work being
sought. My new web site HotArt.com should head in this
direction and input is desired. I plan to add features to
allow any artist to exhibit on this site. Not like art.com
where the artist must be approved. Approved by WHO!!! I
don't ever see anything on that site that grabs me and says
"buy me because you can feel me". How does their
"approver" know what I want to see? The answer is that
they don't know.
What type of services do art lovers need. What do you want
to see. How can I better connect you to the artist that
will service you. Hotart.com is a startup site and many
upgrades of content are planned so tell me what's up now so
that your needs will be met.
Thank you, Mike Colt.
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Andrew Werby
mikecolt wrote in message <0237dd28...@usw-ex0107-051.remarq.com>...
>I would like to create a truly functional place for artist
>and art lovers to come together. But what is it that
>artist need online? What kind of services do you want?
>What's more important, exposure or sells or prestige?
["Exposure" isn't hard to come by on the internet. There are already
numerous "virtual galleries" that take on all comers. If you haven't
waded through them, take a month off and do so. Prestige, frankly,
isn't going to be found this way yet- you still need a physical address-
on West 57th St, preferably. "Sells" would be great; but online sales
are still scarce for fine art. If you have a way to change that, I'd say go
for it, and leave the exposure and prestige for later.]
If the current way that galleries distrubute art is satisfying
>the consumer, then why do consumers buy art off the street
>(in my case the beach) as though they were starving for
>it.
[Venice Beach? I think there are a few reasons. First, the art is
cheaper- there is no gallery to support. Second, it tends to be
more responsive to popular tastes- the artists aren't there for the
tax losses. Then there is the personal contact with the art and the
artist, which some people find meaningful. Of these factors, I think
you could achieve the first fairly easily, the second if you
choose your artists with sales potential in mind (hint: cute animals
and sci-fi themes sell well, plus a pastiche of the more palatable
aspects of surrealism and impressionism.) The third- the
personal contact part, would be tough to do online.]
I think the internet should bring the demands of the
>public to the artist who can deliver the unique work being
>sought. My new web site HotArt.com should head in this
>direction and input is desired. I plan to add features to
>allow any artist to exhibit on this site. Not like art.com
>where the artist must be approved. Approved by WHO!!!
[If the site has no curatorial direction, how will it differ from all the
other catch-all sites that already exist, many of which charge the
artists nothing, even if the work should sell? If the work was totally
miscellaneous, why would anyone stay there clicking through your
artists instead of moving on to the next random art site? ]
I don't ever see anything on that site that grabs me and says
>"buy me because you can feel me". How does their
>"approver" know what I want to see? The answer is that
>they don't know.
[Conversely, if you choose a series of works that appeal to you
personally, they might not be my cup of tea, but at least those who
can relate to one will have more than a random chance of being
attracted to the next. ]
>What type of services do art lovers need. What do you want
>to see. How can I better connect you to the artist that
>will service you.
[Are you putting up an art site or an escort agency? Artists have
this fantasy that someone might actually be interested in their art,
not just in being "serviced". But there are plenty of desperate
artists out there- maybe you could combine the two- "Buy a painting
and get the artist free!" This would maximize that "personal contact"
factor I mentioned above. In this case, it might be best to post pictures
of the artists along with the work, and be sure to incorporate in Nevada...]
Andrew Werby
http://unitedartworks.com
Andrew Werby
Subject: Re: What does the art world need online? Tell hotart.com(mike)
Date: Sunday, December 05, 1999 12:18 PM
Andrew Werby
Byzoque
where the artist must be approved. Approved by WHO!!!>>
There are plenty of catch-all sites. As an artist, I find them painful. Why
would an artist who thinks highly of his/her art want to be associated with
other artists they don't find the least bit respectable?
Cruise Guild.com. It is a site that offers great art and fine crafts. There
are artisans there that I may not swoon over, but no real clunkers. I wish
there were more .coms like that.
Dana Carlson
mikecolt
were then I guess I would be the "pimp" since I own the
domain and so I guess you might want to be the other person
since you're the one that brought it up.( excuse the pun
about bringing "it" up). I detect a sad case of "web
jealousy". The second part of the word "jealousy" is
"lousy". Which is usaully the case of the jealous one.
mikecolt
were then I guess I would be the "pimp" since I own the
domain and so I guess you might want to be the other person
since you're the one that brought it up.( excuse the pun
about bringing "it" up). I detect a sad case of "web
jealousy". The second part of the word "jealousy" is
"lousy". Which is usaully the case of the jealous one.
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mikecolt wrote:
> I would like to create a truly functional place for artist
> and art lovers to come together. But what is it that
> artist need online? What kind of services do you want?
> What's more important, exposure or sells or prestige? If
> the current way that galleries distrubute art is satisfying
> the consumer, then why do consumers buy art off the street
> (in my case the beach) as though they were starving for
> it. I think the internet should bring the demands of the
> public to the artist who can deliver the unique work being
> sought. My new web site HotArt.com should head in this
> direction and input is desired. I plan to add features to
> allow any artist to exhibit on this site. Not like art.com
> where the artist must be approved. Approved by WHO!!! I
> don't ever see anything on that site that grabs me and says
> "buy me because you can feel me". How does their
> "approver" know what I want to see? The answer is that
> they don't know.
> What type of services do art lovers need. What do you want
> to see. How can I better connect you to the artist that
> will service you. Hotart.com is a startup site and many
> upgrades of content are planned so tell me what's up now so
> that your needs will be met.
> Thank you, Mike Colt.
>
John Moore
http://www.hotart.com/
It really is a well designed artist site. I think the best things artists
can do is to keep posting good works, trade links and try to generate
traffic. You should submit your site for some awards.
"Byzoque" <byz...@aol.comnot> wrote in message
news:19991206000219...@ng-cm1.aol.com...
> << Not like art.com
> where the artist must be approved. Approved by WHO!!!>>
>
>
mikecolt
don't know of many people who own a desktop lazer. A black
and white desk top lazer runs into the thousands of dollars
(forget about color!). I think you may be refering to
"ink-jet printers". Ink-jet prints may fade quickly but
true lazer does not. I have lazer prints that are ten
years old that have not faded. Of course anything that is
exposed to harsh direct sunlight will fade. Just look at an
old car from the sunshine states. Sun light will fade car
paint and your hair. If you want to make true lazer prints
then you should find a print shop in your area that has a
cannon 1000 lazer copier. This may include a Kinko's; but
that depends on where you live. You may not find that type
of quality machine in a small town. These lazers hold up
better than my off-set lithographs. The lazers don't take
finger prints and are printed at over 360 lpi. Top lpi for
off-set litho is 175 lip. There is no comparison as far as
true color is concered. Of course if you use a poor
quality lazer copier than your results will be poor. I
suggest the Cannon 1000. Xerox has a good machine but it
may be harder to find. I can't erase the toner off of a
good xerox with an eraser. You can pour a cup of water
over the front of a cannon print with out affecting the
toner. The paper will mess up if you spill water on areas
not covered by toner(this inclueds areas of white within
the art, just like off-set printing. The color white is
not printed. The paper color is used).
Lazer copiers didn't have a good reputation at first
because the product was rushed to market before good
technology was applied. I feel that when large format
lazer becomes available (16x20 and larger) no artist in
his/her right mind would use off-set litho. It just
wouldn't make since. But the art world being what it is
with people dying for dumb traditions no matter how stupid,
some people will still refuse to make, sell or buy lazers.
I suggest that these people should also churn their own
butter,
cure their own ham and remember to pull out the choke when
they start their cars. I tell my customers that these are
lazer prints and their response is "yeah, and so what, I'll
take two". Artist who are not rich and refuse to sell
lazers are just nuts. Why don't they just cut their ears
off and go crazy like their heroes who sold nothing in
their lifetimes. Don't be a fool; get some lazers made and
sell something. I have seen many galeries that sell
lazers. The bottom line here is that if a buyer is not
ready to spring for the cost of an orignal then they would
be content to use their camera and take a picture of your
original. I mean, be smart enough to get paid for the darn
picture (the customer paid for the camera, paid for the
film and will pay for the film development. The only one
who won't get paid is the one who CREATED THE PICTURE!!).
Without you THERE IS NO PICTURE!!! Stop the customer when
they raise their camera and direct them to your basket of
lazer prints. When it comes to your work as an artist:
"get paid by everybody not laid by everybody". I think you
can read through my euphemism here.