Are there issues (both oil & acylic)
with the permanance of student paints
or is it the colour brilliance
I am used to W&N "Winton" oils
and cant afford the artists version
The artist acrylics are just affordable
but if the results I get from the "Galeria"
stay permanent, Im happy
(I have a few freebies to do
with heavy paint usage)
TIA
Niall
>Hi all
>
>Are there issues (both oil & acylic)
>with the permanance of student paints
>or is it the colour brilliance
By my recollection, student grade paint differs from higher grades
mostly due to a lesser quantity of pigment and the presence of
fillers. Hues are also common in student grade paints. Look at your
lableing, colors that are labeled "hue" do not contain the actual
pigment, they are a mixture that looks like the labeled color.
Permanence of a hue is going to vary, depending on the compostition.
If you are useing Winton paints, you will notice that the permanence
rating is on the label.
>
>I am used to W&N "Winton" oils
>and cant afford the artists version
>
>The artist acrylics are just affordable
>but if the results I get from the "Galeria"
>stay permanent, Im happy
I am not particularly fond of W&N paints (I work primarily in
acrylic), however I am well aware that they are probably one of the
most widely available paints. Again, there is a permanance rating for
the individual colors on the lable for each tube in both series. I
have no reason to believe that properly applied Galeria will not last.
I can say for sure though, that Galeria colors are not as strong as
the Finity line. You may be better off useing the Finity colors and
acrylic medium in a project you anticipate will use a lot of paint.
Experimentation is the only way you would know for sure.
>
>(I have a few freebies to do
>with heavy paint usage)
The W&N website may be of use to you.
Barbara
--
everybody is somebodys chew toy
Barbara : whats your choice of acrylics?
There are limited choices in Ireland
but I can keep my eyes open!
TIA
Niall
NightMist <nigh...@uir.zzn.com> wrote in message
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>There are limited choices in Ireland
>but I can keep my eyes open!
Rowney has long made different grades
of artist's colours, including acrylics.
And of course you have W&N's long-time
reputation backing their products.
> Are there issues (both oil & acylic)
> with the permanance of student paints
> or is it the colour brilliance
Student paints has much more oil in them. Brilliance and permanence
are the attributes of the pigments themselves and is not determined by
whether it is artist's or student quality. Take a tube of student
paint and examine the quantity of oil flowing out of them and compare
them to an artist's tube.
My box of paints is filled with both, and for my technique, they work
just as well.
John Ng
ART RENEWAL ADVOCATE
http://community.webshots.com/user/pigsmayfly
Since you're a student, my advice is to buy the cheapest paints,
brushes, etc. when you first start out. You may end up having a
bullshit modern art freak for a teacher and you don't want to go broke
for the sake of some idiot teacher's stupid projects. Don't buy canvas
or anything expensive. Paint on cardboard or paper grocery bags or
anything else you can get free or cheap. Shop at the 99 cent store. If
your teacher tells you to buy canvases, tell her to fuck herself.
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>Thanks Folks
>
>Barbara : whats your choice of acrylics?
>
>There are limited choices in Ireland
>but I can keep my eyes open!
>
My preference is for Golden.
I painted with Liquitex for many years, but they changed their
lableing and adulterated many of my most used colors, so I quit them.
If you are in Ireland, W&N may well be your best bet just based on
availability. I've never been there, but I have and have had art
friends from there. They tell me that the quality paints (and etc)
brought in from anywhere but Britain are priced nigh unto
impossibility.
Well I guess I can no longer consider Fox's stuff furniture store
abstraction. Not even a furniture store, which specializes in abstract
mediocrity, could sell Fox's latest batch of mini imitations of his
favorite masters of Modern Academic Art stupidity, Kline, Twombly etc.
These examples of laziness, no skill, no intelligence, no ideas and no
craftsmanship, are the common product which all mass produced Art
School failures crank out after three years of schmiering around while
babbling Artspeak and drinking beer.
I have the impression that Fox's latest batch of dirty canvas
represents his last all or nothing gamble to either win the Modern
Academic Art lottery or end up in the garbage can.
Fox indeed conforms to Modern Academic Art tenets by conforming to
politically correct close-to-nothing. However, he makes the error of
imitating highly successful media charlatans whose names are already
associated with the tired ugly patterns Fox knocks out.
What Fox and so many here don't realize is that all the Artspeak gas
expended by today's most popular idiot critics has to concentrate on
the few blue chip Moderns who Fox apes in order to keep their
astronomical price tags at their present heights. It is too late for
imitative drivel like Fox's. and the millions of other Bauhaus Academy
hacks, to distract Richies from the signatures they have already been
conned into accumulating.
...no skill no art!
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