Surrealistic Gallery
Inkor
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Thanks to all. Boris
Mani Deli
·modernism is something new.
·the term realism when used as a negative description is to be
understood as merely a photographic rendition of reality.
·representation in painting needs to be abandoned.
·people who cannot draw have greater freedom in expressing themselves
than people who can.
·permanent rebellion against the past is a moral artistic requirement
·neurotic or antisocial people are necessarily better artists.
No skill no art!
Tired of Modern Art? check http://www3.sympatico.ca/manideli/
John Ng
>As someone else aptly noted recently, why do you insist on haranguing
>against points which no one has seriously given a fuck about for the
>past 40 years?
I think you are quite mistaken to believe that no one seriously cares.
Many do. However, "Modern" artists seem not to want to know as,
perhaps, it jeopardises their work. This is a very good example of
Head-in-the-Sand approach. In this NG, you find that quite a lot of
bad mouth bad language posts come from very young people who expound
the Modern art. These posts shout out as if trying to scare
intelligent conversation for fear they might be told what they don’t
want to hear
John Ng
Advocates an art renewal and the return to sensible art
http://community.webshots.com/user/pigsmayfly
Thur
more than an attempt to insult or belittle. Worse still, that you
think of the description as an insult or any favour to your argument.
Why don't you try to speak up for Modern Art? There is precious little
decent discussion in this Newsgroup on the subject.
Awaiting with hope.
Thur
"Marcus Denning" <marcusden...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:20040728080935.049$E...@newsreader.com...
> Yes, John, many do decry 'modern art'. Hobby artists like yourself with
> not a clue about art or art history, and cranks like Mani with one
> monomanical theme he repeats year after year - often verbatim, as with
this
> post. Todd is correct - nobody else has given a fuck about this for many,
> many years. Your ideas are based on ignorance, stupidity, and a hilarious
> devotion to your own limited perceptions. Young people? I'm sixty myself.
>
> Marcus
John Ng
> not a clue about art or art history, and cranks like Mani with one
> monomanical theme he repeats year after year - often verbatim, as with
> this post
Hmm, strange accusation. I have learned enough to know that, in many
trades, some hobbyists actually know more than the professionals.
Especially in art, because of their background, most professional have
become myopic, unable to see outside the square. Secondly, like I
said, there is a tendency for professionals to protect their trade by
declaring themselves as high priest. It is especially apparent for
you because of your age, you are afraid someone would speak sense and
thereby throw your lifework into disarray.
I happen to be very cluey about art and art history because, as a
hobbyist, I have enthusiastically invested a lot of effort into this
area for some thirty or so years. As for Mani, I find his knowledge
astounding and have even more enthusiasm.
> Todd is correct - nobody else has given a fuck about this for many,
> many years. Your ideas are based on ignorance, stupidity, and a hilarious
> devotion to your own limited perceptions. Young people? I'm sixty myself.
You are truly mistaken. Just because people did not realise the
fallacy of Modern art in the last hundred and has not spoken out, that
they are not going to realise it at a later date. In fact, if you
have known your art history well enough, you will be aware that every
hundred years or so, there is a change in the art circle. The last
change happened at the turn of the 1900 -- and so one is due now (and
is happening).
Mani Deli
Denning) wrote:
>Yes, John, many do decry 'modern art'.
Did you ever wonder why? I try to explain it.
> Hobby artists like yourself with
>not a clue about art or art history, and cranks like Mani with one
>monomanical theme he repeats year after year
Art has always been good to me. Haven't had a job since I was 16,
never been in debt and own my own home. Do you like most artzy
fartzies here have to be in at 9:Am?
The moment you question Modern Art their's always someone here to
question your character and tell you don't know much of anything. Most
here know little beyond the slanted art history they learned in
school. As to their craft they know almost nothing.
> - often verbatim, as with this
>post.
When called for I repeat my posts that relate to the repeat subjects
that come up. You would think that sometimes the jerks who write about
my supposed character might occasionally answer my questions and
points, but these embarrass them so they write little more than the
stupidity you just wrote.
Electric Nachos
Mani Deli wrote in message ...
>You would think that sometimes the jerks who write about
>my supposed character might occasionally answer my questions and
>points, but these embarrass them so they write little more than the
>stupidity you just wrote.
I've never seen your withered ass ask ANY question here - All you've ever
done is play artistic politics - you demonstrate no evidence of objective
thinking - no evidence of an open mind - no evidence of having "the benefit
of a doubt".
Come sit on the electric chair and ask mommy a question! Just be aware that
when you make an incorrect statement...
I'm - gonna - press - that - little - red - button!
Mani Deli
>
>Mani Deli wrote in message ...
>
>>You would think that sometimes the jerks who write about
>>my supposed character might occasionally answer my questions and
>>points, but these embarrass them so they write little more than the
>>stupidity you just wrote.
>
>I've never seen your withered ass ask ANY question here -
Because your withered brain can't comprehend a question mark.
> All you've ever
>done is play artistic politics - you demonstrate no evidence of objective
>thinking - no evidence of an open mind - no evidence of having "the benefit
>of a doubt".
>
>Come sit on the electric chair and ask mommy a question! Just be aware that
>when you make an incorrect statement...
>
>I'm - gonna - press - that - little - red - button!
Do it, it will light up your ass.
zeno
Thur wrote:
> Why don't you try to speak up for Modern Art? There is precious little
> decent discussion in this Newsgroup on the subject.
> Awaiting with hope.
> Thur
It will happen.
Zeno