"Pure" conceptual art and your opinion
Bob & Dale Ford
Lately I feel that I am under attack because I have an end product to my
art "experience", (a painting). There seems to be this rising tide that
is taking the idea of conceptual art to the extreme meaning the idea is
every thing and if some thing is produced other than "an experience"
then the art is un pure, and we have all missed the boat. (Obviously I
have simplified this argument and do not claim to be an expert in the
conceptual art field.) What do you think? Are painters dinosaurs?
Dale
A.K.A. Paintasaurous Rex
RolandKoch
I don't think we need worry about that passing 'fad'. Those will come and go
and we have the freedom to choose to subscribe to it or not. But with a
painting that you create with care, thoroughness and sincerity, I strongly
believe that such motives will show through and will not fail to appeal to
other likeminded souls.
All the best,
Roland Koch
www.xlab.co.za
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Bob & Dale Ford
RolandKoch
Change'. Well, that may be true in some respects, but my mother, also a
painter, continually and regularly sells the traditional land and seascapes,
entirely unaffected by 'current trends'.
We who 'experiment' with our art tend to bind ourselves to the fashion of
the day and are judged according to the values of the day, no? Hmm.
GBY
Roland Koch
www.xlab.co.za
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caliban
There are, in fact, many evolutionary threads within which an artist can
participate. I find it one of the most exciting things about making art at
the beginning of the 21st century. And painting is, as you say, by no means,
irrelevant (unlike Ricky/mani...tehe). If you paint, you can make wonderful
abstraction (Ellsworth Kelly, Karin Davie, Brice Marden, ...), portrait
(Chuck Close, John Currin, Lisa Yuskavage, ...), narrative (Eric Fischl,
Alexis Rockman, Damian Loeb...). Anyway, you get the idea and can make your
own list.
Exactly which trends of annoying regularity were you referring ?
c
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> Dale -
>
> I'm a painter and I'm not planning to disappear soon. It is a bit like
> the declarations of the 'death of the novel,' which we hear periodically.
> There is room for all types of art, and probably always will be. Early
> in this century Duchamp introduced conceptual art (in my opinion) with
> the 'R Mutt' urinal that caused such a fuss.
>
> What is true is that the upper echelon (in terms of money and fame) in the
> art world goes through trends with annoying regularity. There is even room
> for painting, both figurative and abstract, at that rarefied level.
>
> Critic Arthur Danto argues that a narrative history of art (not art
itself)
> ended with Warhol's Brillo Boxes. He is probably right, in that there is
> no longer a single (or even multiple) evolutionary thread in which an
> artist can place him or herself.
> --
> Dan
>
> 'The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom.' - Blake
> http://www.danfoxart.com
>
ljrobins
artist I have a much broader array of genres and mediums to choose from as a
way to express my ideas, and in particular, my visual interests. I feel no
restrictions within in my own art practice, and in fact, have no inhibitions
when it comes to crossing mediums or moving from one to the other. I don't
consider myself *a painter* or *a sculptor* or even an *installation artist
(although that has been my primary focus)*. I do consider myself *a visual
artist* and I tend to use whatever materials and methods will express my ideas
most effectively. This may mean creating a series of drawings, paintings,
collage, objects, assemblages or a combination thereof. Now I am sure a purist
would detest this approach to art making but I don't care. I have been inspired
to approach art making this way by artists like Louise Bourgeios, Eva Hesse,
Annette Messager, Joyce Wieland, Rebecca Horn and the list goes on.
By the way, painting is not dead, never has been and never will. New forms of
art simply open the door to a diversity of art making practices that make art
more challenging and interesting as both a maker and viewer.
Also, I really enjoy Lisa Yuskavage's *portrait* paintings.
lissa
keith o'connor (tinmangallery.com)
interesting in that it is a response to
another person's judgment of an action
on your part.
You have to decide if you want the power
to judge you or if you want to give
someone else the power to judge you. You
and only you can decide if you are to be
master or slave in your own house.
take care: keith