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Jon
to know how many of you would actually be willing to participate in this
Positive Environment? - No Flaming will be tolerated within my forum.
Also, if any of you would like to submit articles or "tutorials" about your
technique or a process for a specific type of art, please let me know. You
will receive recognition for anything I post.
I would also like to thank everyone that is giving me some advice on how I
should go about getting back into drawing again. I will try to keep
everyone informed on how I'm progressing. When I'm somewhat comfortable
with the basics again, I'll be asking for your feedback & advice.
Jon Passmore
j...@fineartstudios.net
http://www.fineartstudios.net
Katheryn
running?
I wouldn't mind doing a tutorial on basic color theory. I've designed
an exercise I have been using as a teaching tool for beginners and
refresher for more experienced painters for years. It demonstrates
primary, secondary, complimentary, tertiary, hue, value, tone, shade,
tint, and intensity. It uses a limited pallet of the primaries plus
white and black.
I've simplified and refined it over the years so that it is easy to
understand the relationships between the different hues, how they react
when mixed and/or used in close proximity to each other.
I could also do something about different brushes, what they are
primarily designed for and some of the special effects you can achieve
with the different bristles, hair and/or synthetic brushes.
Of course I don't have any of this on my computer yet so that may take
some time to accomplished. My 'puter (just got for Valentine's day)
crashed on me and is in the shop. As soon as I get it back I'll be
ready for just about anything. I tried to install a program I guess it
didn't like and had a nervous breakdown of sorts. It almost gave me one
too. I've lost all the work I've been doing, retouching photos, etc.
Wouldn't you know I received my digital camera today and can't use it
until I get the computer healthy again?
I really need to find a drawing tool for it. Trying to draw with a
mouse isn't the easiest thing I've done. It kills my hands and doesn't
work very well for details either. I have no idea what is the best,
affordable tool for drawing on the computer. Anyone have any
suggestions?
My daughter just got a pen to draw with but she's threatened me with
never seeing my grandchildren again if it comes up missing after any of
my visits. I don't know why she should get upset if I 'borrowed' it for
a while. For years she's been 'borrowing' things from me that I never
see again. Have you ever noticed that your grown children have very
selective memories? :-)
Katheryn
lauri levanto
to withdraw in a safe haven among good friends.
Have been in one of those experiments.
No flaming tolerated, reads as censorship.
The point of Usenet is in openness, with all
the blessings and curses.
I'm interested in the new forum, but most important is
that public discussion is kept alive, too.
-lauri
journeyman of sculpture
http://www.netti.fi/~laurleva/index.html
"Jon" <jonpa...@home.net> wrote in message
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Sally Port
>Jon Passmore
>j...@fineartstudios.net
>http://www.fineartstudios.net
I've quit giving any references to my web site
for the very reason that certain individuals
couldn't resist trying to rip everyone who
"exposes" themself here in this forum. Petty jealousy
is what I put it down to, as well as a need
to be downright vindictive/obnoxious. I'll email
you privately rather than risk the kind of
negativism my previous advertisement of my
own web site incited. In the meantime, we
can all hope that we've cycled around to better
times with the hoped-for exodus of the worst
of them.
Jon
working again, email them to me. I know you have my email address, but for
the sake of anyone else willing to submit an article, please send them to
j...@fineartstudios.net
Thanks Everyone!
Jon Passmore
The Artists' Agent
j...@fineartstudios.net
http://www.fineartstudios.net
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Jon
away everyones freedom to write "their opinions". I will just be
encouraging the 4 to 1 rule. If you are going to give some criticism, let
them know some things they did right also. Positive critisism of this kind
is productive and helps us improve. Outright negative attacks are just
uncalled for and childish.
Thanks for the response.
Jon Passmore
The Artists' Agent
j...@fineartstudios.net
http://www.fineartstudios.net
"lauri levanto" <lauri....@nokia.com> wrote in message
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Sally Port
>Outright negative attacks are just
>uncalled for and childish.
I don't even mind totally negative criticism.
It's the name calling that is childish and boorish.
And the attacks on one's person by someone who
is licking the dirt themselves.
I once had a professor tell me that one should
take negative criticism and turn it positive
by making one's work so much MORE negative that
people can't stand to not condemn it. Look at
what the negative press has done for many
otherwise unknown artists in recent times.
Katheryn
It's the name calling that is childish and boorish. And the attacks on
one's person by someone who is licking the dirt themselves.
I once had a professor tell me that one should take negative criticism
and turn it positive by making one's work so much MORE negative that
people can't stand to not condemn it. Look at what the negative press
has done for many otherwise unknown artists in recent times."
I agree with these sentiments to a degree. The personal name-calling,
etc. is the most objectionable actions going on most of the time. I
think we all benefit from a certain amount of challenge, by ourselves or
from other people, but it should remain objective and impersonal. I
enjoy a good debate and there has to be a certain amount of controversy
to encourage that. I think being challenged is a healthy activity for
anyone who is creative because it makes us strive to be better. We
should be perpetually in learning mode, no matter what our interest,
level of expertise, or occupation is. Otherwise we stagnate and die.
I don't want to be agreed with all the time. That can become very boring
and doesn't promote any learning or sharing. But, I do believe the way
things are presented in a critique makes the difference between it and
an outright flame. Unfortunately, very few critics recognize the
difference.
The idea of different criteria for the critic to follow is wonderful.
Because of the reasons so clearly stated by Barry in previous posts, I
think it's time for the critics to re-evaluate the way they do their
job. If they destroy new talent with their condemnation before that
artist can mature and become the best they can be, they have done the
world an injustice rather than a service. They need to think about
that, now before it's too late to undo some of the damage they may have
done in the past.
The concept of evaluation through both negative and positive feedback
has reached the mark of what a critique should be evolving into. We
need conflict to challenge us, but we also need encouragement to help us
grow.
Any critic out there who reads these posts should take note and honestly
look at what they do. They have to love art, as much, if not more than
the creator of the art they are reviewing. If the artist is shot off at
the knees while still developing there will result in nothing but
loss... to everyone.
Katheryn
zoo
perhaps through your forum Jon, is an art masterclass. It could be modelled
after the concept of masterclasses for student musicians in which a
professional musician listens to individual performances by students of the
discipline within their expertise and offers valuable advice on technical
and creative aspects of their performances. The idea is to provide the
students with access to the advice and knowledge of someone who is already
successful. The clinician's advice either supports what the students'
respective teachers have taught or gives them a completely different
perspective.
I think this concept could easily be applied to visual arts. For example, a
professional artist would be invited, because of their demonstrated success
in the field, to facilitate a masterclass on abstract landscape painting
(for example). Artists interested in participating would submit examples of
their own abstract landscape painting (the number of participants and
submissions would be limited of course) to be critiqued by the invited
clinician, whose comments would be posted for the benefit of all - including
those who chose to audit rather than submit works for critique. The
potential areas of interest are virtually unlimited (e.g. realist landscape,
surrealism, floral painting, wildlife, charcoal drawing, mixed media,
collage, etching, relief printing, etc., etc.). Not all of the comments by
the clinicians will be positive, of course, but the intention should always
be to reach toward one's own creative potential.
Other professional artists could be engaged to offer workshops on other
areas of interest to those wanting to achieve professional production, such
as developing a professional portfolio, or approaching galleries. How about
starting a professional studio - where does one begin, what are the pitfalls
and how do we avoid them before we take the first big step on our own. It
seems to me that there is a wealth of knowledge out there to be resourced.
How can we pool our respective knowledge and positive energies to benefit us
all? And why not?!
Respectfully,
Louise Marleau
rolling up her sleeves ; - )
Besttiming
Most people in this group are wannabe artists and have yet to learn it.
Besttiming
boorish here dont even know that their is alot of art history that has happened
here and artistic careers etc. Since many of the boors showed up the real pros
have stopped posting. The boor had no clue just cause the net is new it did
not mean usenet was, they boored in with their booish temperment destroyed lots
of the group and now sit and wonder why no one wants to deal with them!
LOL
Had several not been so boorish - I am sure they would have gotten much
farther along with help from others.
BT
Besttiming
LOL
The Bigger YOUR ART Career Gets the more Jealous they will get = Use their
energy to launch your art.
As the way - Press is Press = Good or Bad - You want them talking! Be flattered
that they are! Good or BAD you are in the limelite and deserve it cause you did
the work. Keep working and laugh when you make it and they dont! All the
energy they put into your press they less energy that goes into their art and
it shows.
BT