Postmodern

[Tomi Knuutila]

Hello everyone. I'm looking for info on postmodernism, especially in
photography. Thoughts, ideas, views about artists and theories welcome.
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[jAxAs]

In article <3k4gs3$l...@mordred.cc.jyu.fi>, tom...@jyu.fi (Tomi Knuutila) says:
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>Hello everyone. I'm looking for info on postmodernism,

Chas. Jencks wrote/edited a volume a few years back titled
POSTMODERNISM that was pretty all-encompassing
but I don't know how definitive other scholars might think it is.

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[va...@cwu.edu]

Tomi Knuutila asked for information on postmodernism, especially
photography.

I assume you mean postmodernism as opposed to poststructuralism.
I would suggest starting with all of Roland Barthes' work,
especially _Camera Lucida_.

You might be interested in the disucssion group at alt.postmodern

vance

[Biennale #7]

an...@utxvms.cc.utexas.edu (jAxAs) wrote:
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> In article <3k4gs3$l...@mordred.cc.jyu.fi>, tom...@jyu.fi (Tomi Knuutila) says:
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> >Hello everyone. I'm looking for info on postmodernism,

what type of info are you looking for - this is a bit broad,
why don't you check out Hal Foster, a 'germinal text'

[Ulrike Claudia Mesch]

In article <3khgml$e...@hermes.is.co.za>, Biennale #7 <w...@is.co.za> wrote:
>an...@utxvms.cc.utexas.edu (jAxAs) wrote:
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>> In article <3k4gs3$l...@mordred.cc.jyu.fi>, tom...@jyu.fi (Tomi Knuutila) says:
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>> >Hello everyone. I'm looking for info on postmodernism,
>

If you're interested in postmodern aesthetics--which I assume since you're
posting to this group--I'd look at _Art After Modernism_. I think this may
have been edited by Marcia Tucker or someone like that. I keep going back
to this anthology. Don't expect anything spelled out for you, but the essays
chart out the major issues in a suitably problematizing way. But of course,
this book only deals with the American debates on the topic.

[IBShar]

Art After Modernism was written by Susi Gablik. It's a good source of
postmodern explanation.

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[John Frigo]

In article <3ko1s0$a...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, ibs...@aol.com (IBShar) wrote:

> Art After Modernism was written by Susi Gablik. It's a good source of
> postmodern explanation.

I second this. Gablik is VERY readalbe for those not indoctrinated
into the lingo of pomo. It's informative, as well, to read her articles
from different times to see how her thinking (and others) about
the postmodern has changed.

-Frigo

[Ulrike Claudia Mesch]

You're thinking of another book. The anthology I referred to, _Art After
Modernism_, was edited by Brian Wallis, with a forward by Marcia Tucker.
Gablik puts a particular kind of neo-romantic spin on her critique of
the concept of the "postmodern," so I wouldn't read it first since it is
a text which reacts against the discourse that the Wallis book lays out.

claudia

[va...@cwu.edu]

Tomi Knuutila asked for info on postmodernism.

Try Best and Kellner's book: _Postmodern Theory_. And excellent
beginning summary of the major poststructuralist authors.

Vance

[Michele Sohn]

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> Tomi Knuutila asked for information on postmodernism,
especially
> photography.
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> I assume (NEVER ASSUME - THAT IS DANGEROUS )you mean

postmodernism as opposed to poststructuralism.

what - one might - if one were so pre-supposed is the difference
(other than an arbitary dislocation between sign and signifier?)

> I would suggest starting with all of Roland Barthes' work,

> especially _Camera Lucida_ YUP, good choice, also Foucault
(the stuff on survelaince and the penopticon are of course,
applicable...)

I would also recommend Susan Sontag, especially ON PHOTOGRAPHY

In the eather

Michele Sohn
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[Michele Sohn]

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> Subject: Postmodern
> Date: 19 Mar 1995 03:27:29 GMT
> From: va...@cwu.edu
> Organization: Central Washington University, Ellensburg, WA
98926
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> Tomi Knuutila asked for information on postmodernism,
especially
> photography.
>

> I assume (NEVER ASSUME - THAT IS DANGEROUS )you mean

postmodernism as opposed to poststructuralism.

what - one might - if one were so pre-supposed is the difference
(other than an arbitary dislocation between sign and signifier?)

> I would suggest starting with all of Roland Barthes' work,

[Paul William Chui]

John Frigo (jfr...@bilbo.bio.purdue.edu) wrote:

: -Frigo
Two of Gablik's other books, Has modernism Failed and The Reenchantment
of art are both very informative although they don't explain with
postmodernism directly.

[va...@cwu.edu]

Since Suzi Gablik seems to be suggested so much, I'd recommend her
latest: _The Reenchantment of Art_. She does cover a lot of territory
that no one else covers in this book, but take it with a very large
grain of salt. She presents her material from the bias, not even of
the Neo-Marxist, but of the old style "rude crude" Marxist. This
should be known going in.

vance

By the way, one of her best, but not most popular, books was:
_Progress in Art_, about 77 I think.