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jf le saint

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Aug 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/8/99
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could anyone please help me identify the author of the painting I placed
here : http://www.chez.com/lesaint/unknown.jpg
I inadvertently renamed the file and I can't find the website I
originally got it from.
thank you all.


cb

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Aug 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/8/99
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Hi;

I tried to access it but got the follwing message:
"Forbidden -
You don't have permission to access /lesaint/unknown.jpg on this server."

You may have to check to see how the permissions are set on your server, and
then post again.

Chris

jf le saint

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Aug 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/8/99
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sorry for this.
let's try something different : I placed the picture on a html file, here is the
link to it :
http://www.chez.com/lesaint/unknown.html
I hope it will work.
thank you again.

cb

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Aug 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/8/99
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It looks like an adaptation of Winslow Homer's "Breezing Up - a Fair Wind" .

Erik A. Mattila

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Aug 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/8/99
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When I looked at it, I thought "Winslow Homer." Just a knee-jerk reasction.

Erik Mattila

Marilyn

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Aug 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/8/99
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Yes, Erik, it is Homeresque, except the composition is cropped,
and why wouldn't he sign it. Maybe a preparatory sketch of Homer's.
How much would you give for it?

Marilyn

jf le saint

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Aug 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/8/99
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thank you for your help Chris and Erik, you were right in saying it was W Homer. I found
the painting at :
http://familiar.sph.umich.edu/mirror/www.cat.nyu.edu/fox/art/homer/catboat.jpg.html
the title is "sailing the catboat" and it does have the same basis as "breezing up".
however I would easily swap "breezing up" for "sailing the catboat", I think the latter
is far superior. you can feel the sun filter through the hat of the boy in the middle,
the wind on the other's cheek and water is in the air. it all feels like life.
"breezing up" is all the contrary, wooden statues sailing in a pond.

Marilyn

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Aug 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/8/99
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Homer had a problem, because of his background as an
engraver, of making his figures seem "wooden" and he
also had the habit of using wooden models for his
figures.

Chris

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Aug 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/9/99
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Marilyn wrote:

> Homer had a problem, because of his background as an
> engraver, of making his figures seem "wooden" and he
> also had the habit of using wooden models for his
> figures.
>

I think that was pretty common at the time. There's a painting (by Manet?) of another artist
with his mannequins scattered on the floor...I'll see if I can look it up. Cloth flowers were
also popular - say nothng of painting pictures from magazines (there's a delightful still life

by one of the Impressionists of a vase of flowers, based on a magazine picture)...

Cheers;

Chris


Chris

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Aug 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/9/99
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Hi jf;

That's really funny - my first reaction was "Catboat" was simply a copied "Breezing Up"
(perhaps the former was actually a water-colour/gouache study for the latter? Anyone
know?). Maybe that's because the Atlantic over here is usually much more like the "Breezing
up" picture - with that dark underside - rather than the lightness in Catboat. And there's
that slight sense of foreboding in the clouds of the oil painting... I also like the the
rythm set up between the ship in the background of Breezing up, and the boat in the
foreground, sort of establishing the daydreams of boys, as it were. .. We used to sail
Lightenings in and around the Mid-Atlantic region (boats around the same size as the one in
the paintings..), and maybe Breezing Up just brings back those feelings!

Cheers;

Chris

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Marilyn Welch

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Aug 10, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/10/99
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The trick is, the artist can breathe life into these props.
Cezanne's wonderful apples and peaches were actually wax.
Most of his flower props were silk. He was a very slow painter.

Some instructors take their students to the natural history
museums to paint & draw stuffed animals, and to breath life into
the image. It's a challenge.

On the other hand some painters can paint real live people
and make them look like stuffed-shirts.

Marilyn

wq...@victoria.tc.ca
Victoria BC Canada

Aster Iske

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Aug 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/11/99
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In article <Pine.GSO.3.95.iB1.0.990810162141.8098B-100000@vtn1>,
wq...@victoria.tc.ca says...

>Some instructors take their students to the natural history
>museums to paint & draw stuffed animals, and to breath life into
>the image. It's a challenge.

At one time some of the 'ateliers' owned plaster casts
taken from the original Greek, Roman, etc sculptures.
Students used these plaster replicas as models for
their drawings, paintings etc. The University of Texas
in Austin still has a room full of these in the
formidable Harry Ransom Center gallery spaces. Some
are painted to simulate the bronze finish of the
originals. These plaster replicas are now considered
valuable in their own right. If interested you can
visit the UT Web sites and look for 'Battle Casts'
named for someone 'Battle' who was somehow connected with
UT back in the days when these plasters were in use
by the students.


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