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JID

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Feb 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/20/99
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Hi --

If I describe this painting, can you identify the artist and the full
title for me? It's an "Expulsion from the Garden of Eden" but I don't know
if that's the proper title. It's not the Masaccio (sp?) fresco, but it's a
famous painting of God pointing angrily at the couple as they walk out of
the Garden; Adam is looking back and I think Eve is hunched over
miserably.

If you have the answer to this, I would be very grateful for an e-mail. It
would be even better if you could point me to a URL that has an image, or
if you could even send me one if you have it, but even just the name of
the artist would help enormously. Or if you know a better forum in which
to post this question, please let me know.

Thanks in advance.

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Christophe Court

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Feb 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/20/99
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It's maybe Michelangelo " The expulsion from the garden of eden".....portion
of the sistine chapel

JID

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Feb 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/21/99
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In article <36CF451E...@cam.org>, Christophe Court <cou...@cam.org>
wrote:

>It's maybe Michelangelo " The expulsion from the garden of eden".....portion
>of the sistine chapel

Close, but no. In the piece I'm thinking of, I believe Adam has his arm
around Eve, or he appears to be protecting her somehow, and he's
definitely looking back at God. I think it's from an earlier period than
Michelangelo.

Thanks though...

David Levy

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Feb 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/21/99
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In article <owls-21029...@owls.vip.best.com>, JID
<ow...@best.com> writes

>In article <36CF451E...@cam.org>, Christophe Court <cou...@cam.org>
>wrote:
>
>>It's maybe Michelangelo " The expulsion from the garden of eden".....portion
>>of the sistine chapel
>
>Close, but no. In the piece I'm thinking of, I believe Adam has his arm
>around Eve, or he appears to be protecting her somehow, and he's
>definitely looking back at God. I think it's from an earlier period than
>Michelangelo.
>
>Thanks though...
>
The painting you want is a fresco, on the wall of the Brancacci Chapel
in the Church of Santa Maria del Carmine in Florence. It was by
Massacio and painted in the 1420s. It is one of the most moving of the
quattrocento paintings of this subject. If you ever get a chance to
visit Florence, don't miss it. Incidentally Adam's arms are held
upwards covering his face with both hands.
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David Levy

JID

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Feb 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/21/99
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In article <mcxizMAd...@ethel.demon.co.uk>, David Levy
<davel...@ethel.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>The painting you want is a fresco, on the wall of the Brancacci Chapel
>in the Church of Santa Maria del Carmine in Florence. It was by
>Massacio and painted in the 1420s. It is one of the most moving of the
>quattrocento paintings of this subject. If you ever get a chance to
>visit Florence, don't miss it. Incidentally Adam's arms are held
>upwards covering his face with both hands.

Thanks for your reply. Unfortunately, as I mentioned in my original post,
the painting I'm looking for is not the Masaccio fresco. They're similar,
but it's not the same one. In the Masaccio, Adam's arms are indeed held
upwards, but in the one I'm thinking of, he IS looking back at God.

So I've ruled out Masaccio and Michelangelo...still searching for the artist...

Thanks for everyone's help though.

Kay Kane

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Feb 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/21/99
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Did you specify a painting? I don't remember. Here's yet another
suggestion: "Adam and Eve Reproached by the Lord" from the Doors of Bishop
Bernward, Hildesheim Cathedral - bronze low relief - Ottonian period about
the year 1000? God has his hand out to berate Adam who is cringing and his
hand is pointing to Eve who is cringing and her hand is pointing to the
Snake.
Kay Kane

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JID

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Feb 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/21/99
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In article <ol2A2.3826$yv3....@news2.giganews.com>, "Kay Kane"
<scarl...@theriver.com> wrote:

>Did you specify a painting? I don't remember. Here's yet another
>suggestion: "Adam and Eve Reproached by the Lord" from the Doors of Bishop
>Bernward, Hildesheim Cathedral - bronze low relief - Ottonian period about
>the year 1000? God has his hand out to berate Adam who is cringing and his
>hand is pointing to Eve who is cringing and her hand is pointing to the
>Snake.

I'd like to see that anyway... but yeah, I'm pretty sure what I'm looking
for is a painting. I'm going off a memory of a Xerox copy, so I can't even
use the color in the painting as a clue, but I'm pretty certain it wasn't
a bronze relief. Plus Adam and Eve are sort of in it together more than in
the image you describe.

Thanks for the idea though!

lm

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Feb 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/25/99
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there was an expulsion scene done by albrect drurer (spelled with an umlaut
over the "u"). early northern renaissance. his female nudes tend to look quite
pot-bellied, as was the fashion of his day
regards,
lm

JID wrote:

> Hi --
>
> If I describe this painting, can you identify the artist and the full
> title for me? It's an "Expulsion from the Garden of Eden" but I don't know
> if that's the proper title. It's not the Masaccio (sp?) fresco, but it's a
> famous painting of God pointing angrily at the couple as they walk out of
> the Garden; Adam is looking back and I think Eve is hunched over
> miserably.
>
> If you have the answer to this, I would be very grateful for an e-mail. It
> would be even better if you could point me to a URL that has an image, or
> if you could even send me one if you have it, but even just the name of
> the artist would help enormously. Or if you know a better forum in which
> to post this question, please let me know.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>

lm

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Feb 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/25/99
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oops -- I was thinking of his painting of Adam and Eve, sorry. (Durer, not
Drurer, too many typos, not enough coffee)

JID

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Feb 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/25/99
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>there was an expulsion scene done by albrect drurer (spelled with an umlaut
>over the "u"). early northern renaissance. his female nudes tend to look quite
>pot-bellied, as was the fashion of his day

Aha...I think this is what I'm looking for. At least the piece I'm
thinking of is very like Dürer's style -- not having it in front of me, I
can't recall exactly, but I'm pretty sure this is it. Thank you, thank
you!

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