Sleep No More

Stephen Wilson

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Nov 14, 2015, 4:31:31 PM11/14/15

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So 16 years after the Blair Witch Project, Doctor Who tries doing a story in
the same style. Perhaps it can be done effectively. But not this time.

I don't know about "sleep no more", but I started drifting off within about
10 minutes. Maybe there's a story lurking in there somewhere, then again,
maybe not.

I think most of the cast were sleepwalking through the entire episode, and
the Doctor and Clara were pretty superfluous. The only character of note was
Rassmussen but even he was rather lacklustre.

OK, so there were no moon sized eggs in this one, or sentient forests, but
(if you haven't guessed) this one left me distinctly underwhelmed.

TB

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Nov 14, 2015, 5:58:57 PM11/14/15

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Do you have insomnia?

The Doctor

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Nov 14, 2015, 6:00:25 PM11/14/15

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In article <590befff-7327-4796...@googlegroups.com>,
TB <tsbr...@dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
>Do you have insomnia?

Use to.
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Lest we forget 11 Nov 2015

TB

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Nov 15, 2015, 12:24:41 AM11/15/15

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In the 38th century, Earth uses cloned soldiers known as "Grunts". Did Earth get the idea from the Sontarans?

TB

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Nov 15, 2015, 12:26:07 AM11/15/15

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The video so far is very spooky. Does the episode title reflect Moffat's belief that the fans won't be able to sleep after watching this episode?

TB

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Nov 15, 2015, 12:43:19 AM11/15/15

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The Morpheus song: Mr Sandman, give me your dreams.......

Bill Jillians

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Nov 15, 2015, 2:06:52 AM11/15/15

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In message <RKN1y.178527$L65.1...@fx47.am4>, Stephen Wilson
<stephen.wils...@ntlworld.com> writes

Good .... I hope you don't mind if I refer to your review in my review.
I haven't actually seen this yet.

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Bill Jillians

Idlehands admits how dumb he is.
"Thank god we are as fucking stupid as the British, that is if the chicken
fucker and binky are any representation."

Mike M

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Nov 15, 2015, 7:17:24 AM11/15/15

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On 15/11/2015 07:02, Bill Jillians wrote:
> In message <RKN1y.178527$L65.1...@fx47.am4>, Stephen Wilson
> <stephen.wils...@ntlworld.com> writes
>> So 16 years after the Blair Witch Project, Doctor Who tries doing a
>> story in
>> the same style. Perhaps it can be done effectively. But not this time.
>>
>> I don't know about "sleep no more", but I started drifting off within
>> about
>> 10 minutes. Maybe there's a story lurking in there somewhere, then again,
>> maybe not.
>>
>> I think most of the cast were sleepwalking through the entire episode,
>> and
>> the Doctor and Clara were pretty superfluous. The only character of
>> note was
>> Rassmussen but even he was rather lacklustre.
>>
>> OK, so there were no moon sized eggs in this one, or sentient forests,
>> but
>> (if you haven't guessed) this one left me distinctly underwhelmed.
>>
>>
>
> Good .... I hope you don't mind if I refer to your review in my review.
> I haven't actually seen this yet.
>

I watched it but, like Stephen, found it difficult to concentrate. I'll
have to watch it again before being able to write a commentary.

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important."

Bill Jillians

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Nov 15, 2015, 7:45:06 AM11/15/15

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In message <darbeg...@mid.individual.net>, Mike M
<mi...@xenocyte.com> writes

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Well I've seen it now. Never seen an episode on which the Doctor was a
patsy and evil prevailed. It was a horror story with an interesting
ending for this show. Seem to remember they might have stolen the
ending from a recentish Hollywood gore fest.

I enjoyed it partly because it left more questions unanswered than it
addressed.

The Doctor

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Nov 15, 2015, 8:52:33 AM11/15/15

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In article <3b50e6e9-9866-48b3...@googlegroups.com>,

Doubtful.

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The Doctor

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Nov 15, 2015, 8:52:58 AM11/15/15

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In article <faaa874d-14f0-419b...@googlegroups.com>,

I was able to sleep.

The Doctor

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Nov 15, 2015, 8:54:27 AM11/15/15

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In article <86210601-3e17-4c16...@googlegroups.com>,

You recall.

The Doctor

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Nov 15, 2015, 8:58:57 AM11/15/15

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In article <WSzfs2CZ...@btinternet.com>,

Bill Jillians <willaim.j...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>In message <RKN1y.178527$L65.1...@fx47.am4>, Stephen Wilson
><stephen.wils...@ntlworld.com> writes
>>So 16 years after the Blair Witch Project, Doctor Who tries doing a story in
>>the same style. Perhaps it can be done effectively. But not this time.
>>
>>I don't know about "sleep no more", but I started drifting off within about
>>10 minutes. Maybe there's a story lurking in there somewhere, then again,
>>maybe not.
>>
>>I think most of the cast were sleepwalking through the entire episode, and
>>the Doctor and Clara were pretty superfluous. The only character of note was
>>Rassmussen but even he was rather lacklustre.
>>
>>OK, so there were no moon sized eggs in this one, or sentient forests, but
>>(if you haven't guessed) this one left me distinctly underwhelmed.
>>
>>
>
>Good .... I hope you don't mind if I refer to your review in my review.
>I haven't actually seen this yet.
>

We await.

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>
>Idlehands admits how dumb he is.
>"Thank god we are as fucking stupid as the British, that is if the chicken
>fucker and binky are any representation."
>
>

TB

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Nov 15, 2015, 11:30:59 AM11/15/15

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Thanks to Rasmussen's signal, you should be able to stay awake and watch the episode again!

TB

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Nov 15, 2015, 11:32:40 AM11/15/15

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On Saturday, November 14, 2015 at 1:31:31 PM UTC-8, Stephen Wilson wrote:
> So 16 years after the Blair Witch Project, Doctor Who tries doing a story in
> the same style. Perhaps it can be done effectively. But not this time.
>
> I don't know about "sleep no more", but I started drifting off within about
> 10 minutes. Maybe there's a story lurking in there somewhere, then again,
> maybe not.
>
> I think most of the cast were sleepwalking through the entire episode, and
> the Doctor and Clara were pretty superfluous.

How can they be sleepwalking? Wouldn't Rasmussen's signal eliminate their need to sleep?

Pudentame

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Nov 15, 2015, 11:47:32 AM11/15/15

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What about final episode of Patrick Troughton's first serial - The
Power of the Daleks, where at the end as the TARDIS is dematerializing
the supposedly dead Dalek's eye-stalk lights up?

Hell, any episode featuring the Daleks ... they always lose, but they
always come back.

Stephen Wilson

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Nov 15, 2015, 12:19:53 PM11/15/15

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"Bill Jillians" <willaim.j...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:WSzfs2CZ...@btinternet.com...

> In message <RKN1y.178527$L65.1...@fx47.am4>, Stephen Wilson
> <stephen.wils...@ntlworld.com> writes
>>So 16 years after the Blair Witch Project, Doctor Who tries doing a story
>>in
>>the same style. Perhaps it can be done effectively. But not this time.
>>
>>I don't know about "sleep no more", but I started drifting off within
>>about
>>10 minutes. Maybe there's a story lurking in there somewhere, then again,
>>maybe not.
>>
>>I think most of the cast were sleepwalking through the entire episode, and
>>the Doctor and Clara were pretty superfluous. The only character of note
>>was
>>Rassmussen but even he was rather lacklustre.
>>
>>OK, so there were no moon sized eggs in this one, or sentient forests, but
>>(if you haven't guessed) this one left me distinctly underwhelmed.
>>
>>
>
> Good .... I hope you don't mind if I refer to your review in my review. I
> haven't actually seen this yet.

I wouldn't call what I wrote a review - more a vague impression. It's out in
the public domain - you can refer to it if you wish to.

The Doctor

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Nov 15, 2015, 4:02:55 PM11/15/15

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In article <X832y.266375$eu4....@fx44.am4>,

As you like it.

Bill Jillians

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Nov 18, 2015, 12:06:29 AM11/18/15

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In message <n2a2mv$gd1$1...@ns2.nl2k.ab.ca>, The Doctor
<doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> writes

>In article <3b50e6e9-9866-48b3...@googlegroups.com>,
>TB <tsbr...@dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
>>Spoilers:
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>Doubtful.

Or Star Wars maybe?

The Doctor

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Nov 18, 2015, 11:04:36 AM11/18/15

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Could be

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Timothy Bruening

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TB

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Great moments: Rasmussen hiding in a movie an electronic signal that will affect everyone's sleep centers and turn them into Sandmen. I once read a Star Trek fan fic about a fair tale that altered people's minds to make them suicidal.

TB

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Jan 14, 2016, 11:15:42 AM1/14/16

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The Sandmen crumbling into dust when the anti-grav shields fail.

Clara getting snatched into a Morpheus pod. The pods concentrate one's sleep into a few minutes.

TB

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A door forcing one of the rescuer to sing the Morpheus song before letting him in.

TB

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According to the Doctor says that everyone needs to sleep. Does that include Daleks, Cybermen, and Weeping Angels? Sleep prevents sleep dust from building up into Sandman.

TB

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TB

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Jan 14, 2016, 11:43:07 AM1/14/16

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Great moments: The Doctor realizing the significance of the fact that neither the station nor the rescue crew has any cameras, yet there are visual records of the happenings on the station. The visual record were made by sleep dust particles.

Why don't either the station or the rescue crew possess cameras.

TB

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Great line: Rasmussen as he crumbles into dust: Do you have something in your eye?

TB

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Great moments: The Blair Witch type found footage format.

In the 38th century, Earth clones soldiers. Did Earth get that idea from the Sontarans cloning Martha Jones (The Sontaran Strategem/Poison Sky)?

TB

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Morpheus pods send coded electronic signals into the brain to compress the sleep experience into 5 minutes.

The sleep dust that people wipe out of their eyes has evolved into a carnivorous life form. The dust has merged together.

People now worship multiple Gods. Can we blame the Indian/Japanese power bloc for that?

TB

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Feb 27, 2016, 9:28:35 PM2/27/16

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Great moments: The computer making one man recite the Morpheus Song.

How does the grav shielding keep the station from falling towards Neptune.

TB

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The Doctor says that ALL sentient beings need sleep. This would include Daleks, Cybermen, and Sontarans. Has anyone ever seen a Dalek, Cyberman, or Sontaran sleep normally, as opposed to being in suspended animation (Tomb of the Cybermen) or being knocked (Sontarans by being hit in the probic vent, or Strax by a shovel)?

TB

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TB

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The Doctor points out one very odd thing about the video: There are no cameras to take video! Why didn't the squad sent to investigate the loss of communications bring any cameras with them? I would expect that cameras would be standard equipment on a rescue mission!

The Doctor

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Feb 27, 2016, 9:50:08 PM2/27/16

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In article <5c4c8776-af5d-4541...@googlegroups.com>,

Indeed.

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Broadcasting the truth for 25 years

TB

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Rasmusssen at the end: You've got something. Yeah. Just in the corner of your eye.

Daniel47

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Feb 28, 2016, 4:53:56 AM2/28/16

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Has anyone ever seen The Doctor sleep??

Daniel

TB

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Feb 28, 2016, 8:52:32 AM2/28/16

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I've seen him sleeping after a regeneration!

The Doctor

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Feb 28, 2016, 8:53:08 AM2/28/16

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In article <4df19a73-29a3-451a...@googlegroups.com>,

Not really.

TB

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On Sunday, February 28, 2016 at 5:53:08 AM UTC-8, The Doctor wrote:
> In article <4df19a73-29a3-451a...@googlegroups.com>,
> TB <tsbr...@dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
> >On Sunday, February 28, 2016 at 1:53:56 AM UTC-8, Daniel47 wrote:
> >> On 28/02/2016 1:34 PM, TB wrote:
> >> > On Saturday, February 27, 2016 at 6:28:35 PM UTC-8, TB wrote:
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> >> > The Doctor says that ALL sentient beings need sleep. This would
> >> > include Daleks, Cybermen, and Sontarans. Has anyone ever seen a
> >> > Dalek, Cyberman, or Sontaran sleep normally, as opposed to being in
> >> > suspended animation (Tomb of the Cybermen) or being knocked
> >> > (Sontarans by being hit in the probic vent, or Strax by a shovel)?
> >>
> >> Has anyone ever seen The Doctor sleep??
> >>
> >> Daniel
> >
> >I've seen him sleeping after a regeneration!
>
> Not really.

He looked to me like he was sleeping!

The Other Doctor

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Feb 28, 2016, 10:37:57 AM2/28/16

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"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
news:natn8v$asp$1...@ns2.nl2k.ab.ca...

> In article <5c4c8776-af5d-4541...@googlegroups.com>,
> TB <tsbr...@dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
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You finally noticed that log?

The Last Doctor

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Feb 28, 2016, 11:17:28 AM2/28/16

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Beam, Stephen. KJV , remember; Dave belongs to one of those Mystery cults
that believes the Bible shouldn't be translated into language the believers
can actually understand.

Of course, Dave goes one step further and tries to ensure that his thoughts
aren't translated into language that ANYONE can actually understand.

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Daniel47

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Feb 29, 2016, 8:20:52 AM2/29/16

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That would be the transition into the Tennant Doctor, I hope! Yes, he
spent a bit of time in a Dressing Gown, didn't he?? Apart from that,
which was after a regeneration, any other times of actual sleeping?

Daniel

The Other Doctor

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Feb 29, 2016, 5:56:57 PM2/29/16

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"Daniel47" <Dani...@eternal-september.org> wrote in message
news:nb1gdr$jfr$1...@dont-email.me...

There are plenty of characters in plenty of programmes that aren't shown
sleeping. People don't tend to do much when they're asleep. So any show
featuring people sleeping would get pretty boring pretty quickly...

Daniel47

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On 1/03/2016 9:58 AM, The Other Doctor wrote:
> "Daniel47" <Dani...@eternal-september.org> wrote in message
> news:nb1gdr$jfr$1...@dont-email.me...
>> On 29/02/2016 1:06 AM, TB wrote:

<Snip>

>>> He looked to me like he was sleeping!
>>>
>> That would be the transition into the Tennant Doctor, I hope! Yes, he
>> spent a bit of time in a Dressing Gown, didn't he?? Apart from that, which
>> was after a regeneration, any other times of actual sleeping?
>
> There are plenty of characters in plenty of programmes that aren't shown
> sleeping. People don't tend to do much when they're asleep. So any show
> featuring people sleeping would get pretty boring pretty quickly...

Yeap, it sure would, but conversely, the impression we are given is of
The Doctor completing an adventure somewhere, without apparently
sleeping, and he hops into the TARDIS, and whamo, he appears somewhere
else, without sleeping, to start another adventure!!

Daniel

The Last Doctor

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Mar 1, 2016, 1:30:44 PM3/1/16

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The Other Doctor <stephen.wils...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
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You once watched 15 minutes of Big Brother, didn't you.

The Other Doctor

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"The Last Doctor" <mi...@xenocyte.com> wrote in message
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Not on purpose! It was on in my sister's house once when I visited. I don't
think I lasted 15 minutes.

TB

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I have seen him sleeping with Martha Jones (The Shakespeare Code).

The Doctor

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May 4, 2016, 8:28:18 PM5/4/16

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In article <f28dede4-0b04-4d8e...@googlegroups.com>,

Must you.

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Daniel47

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May 5, 2016, 6:07:17 AM5/5/16

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If I were in bed with Martha Jones, probably the last thing I'd want to
be doing is sleep!! ;-P

Daniel

TB

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May 5, 2016, 2:35:55 PM5/5/16

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The Doctor didn't appear interested in Martha in that manner.

Tim Bruening

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Dec 8, 2016, 10:17:49 PM12/8/16

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And also under a Dream Crab in "Last Christmas".

Tim Bruening

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On Sunday, November 15, 2015 at 8:47:32 AM UTC-8, Pudentame wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Nov 2015 12:43:00 +0000, Bill Jillians
> <willaim.j...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> >In message <darbeg...@mid.individual.net>, Mike M
> ><mi...@xenocyte.com> writes
> >>On 15/11/2015 07:02, Bill Jillians wrote:
> >>> In message <RKN1y.178527$L65.1...@fx47.am4>, Stephen Wilson
> >>> <stephen.wils...@ntlworld.com> writes
> >>>> So 16 years after the Blair Witch Project, Doctor Who tries doing a
> >>>> story in
> >>>> the same style. Perhaps it can be done effectively. But not this time.
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't know about "sleep no more", but I started drifting off within
> >>>> about
> >>>> 10 minutes. Maybe there's a story lurking in there somewhere, then again,
> >>>> maybe not.
> >>>>
> >>>> I think most of the cast were sleepwalking through the entire episode,
> >>>> and
> >>>> the Doctor and Clara were pretty superfluous. The only character of
> >>>> note was
> >>>> Rassmussen but even he was rather lacklustre.
> >>>>
> >>>> OK, so there were no moon sized eggs in this one, or sentient forests,
> >>>> but
> >>>> (if you haven't guessed) this one left me distinctly underwhelmed.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Good .... I hope you don't mind if I refer to your review in my review.
> >>> I haven't actually seen this yet.
> >>>
> >>
> >>I watched it but, like Stephen, found it difficult to concentrate. I'll
> >>have to watch it again before being able to write a commentary.
> >>
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> >
> >Well I've seen it now. Never seen an episode on which the Doctor was a
> >patsy and evil prevailed. It was a horror story with an interesting
> >ending for this show. Seem to remember they might have stolen the
> >ending from a recentish Hollywood gore fest.
> >
> >I enjoyed it partly because it left more questions unanswered than it
> >addressed.
>
> What about final episode of Patrick Troughton's first serial - The
> Power of the Daleks, where at the end as the TARDIS is dematerializing
> the supposedly dead Dalek's eye-stalk lights up?
>
> Hell, any episode featuring the Daleks ... they always lose, but they
> always come back.

The Master keeps coming back also.

Tim Bruening

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On Saturday, February 27, 2016 at 6:34:58 PM UTC-8, Tim Bruening wrote:
> On Saturday, February 27, 2016 at 6:28:35 PM UTC-8, TB wrote:
> > 1
> > 1
> > 1
> > 1
> > 1
> > 1
> > 1
> > 1
> > 11
> > 1
> > 1
> > 11
> > 1
> > 1
> > 1
> >
> > 1
> >
>

> The Doctor says that ALL sentient beings need sleep. This would include Daleks, Cybermen, and Sontarans. Has anyone ever seen a Dalek, Cyberman, or Sontaran sleep normally, as opposed to being in suspended animation (Tomb of the Cybermen) or being knocked (Sontarans by being hit in the probic vent, or Strax by a shovel)?

Why would Movellans or Mechaniods need sleep?

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In article <69380a3d-d899-4fab...@googlegroups.com>,

And in Christmas Invasion.

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Movellans and Mechanoids are machines.

The Doctor

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This time as missy.

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They are sentient beings, and thus, according to the Doctor, need sleep.

The Doctor

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Sentent ? Like Xoanon?

Daniel60

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On 10/12/2016 3:12 AM, The Doctor wrote:
> In article <69380a3d-d899-4fab...@googlegroups.com>,
> Tim Bruening <tsbr...@dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
>> On Sunday, February 28, 2016 at 5:52:32 AM UTC-8, Tim Bruening wrote:
>>> On Sunday, February 28, 2016 at 1:53:56 AM UTC-8, Daniel47 wrote:
>>>> On 28/02/2016 1:34 PM, TB wrote:
>>>>> On Saturday, February 27, 2016 at 6:28:35 PM UTC-8, TB wrote:
>>>>>> 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 11 1 1 11 1 1 1 1 1
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The Doctor says that ALL sentient beings need sleep. This would
>>>>> include Daleks, Cybermen, and Sontarans. Has anyone ever seen a
>>>>> Dalek, Cyberman, or Sontaran sleep normally, as opposed to being in
>>>>> suspended animation (Tomb of the Cybermen) or being knocked
>>>>> (Sontarans by being hit in the probic vent, or Strax by a shovel)?
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone ever seen The Doctor sleep??
>>>

>>> I've seen him sleeping after a regeneration!
>>
>> And also under a Dream Crab in "Last Christmas".
>
> And in Christmas Invasion.
>

O.K., so much more common than I thought!

Daniel

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Well, the Doctor stated the general rule that all sentient beings need sleep. Since Daleks, Cybermen, Sontarans, Movellans, Mechaniods, and Xoanon are sentient, that means tha THEY need sleep! I was astonished at the implication that even mechanical or computer beings need sleep, and was asking if that was true.

Tim Bruening

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On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 5:28:18 PM UTC-7, The Doctor wrote:
> In article <f28dede4-0b04-4d8e...@googlegroups.com>,
> TB <tsbr...@dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
> >On Sunday, February 28, 2016 at 5:52:32 AM UTC-8, TB wrote:
> >> On Sunday, February 28, 2016 at 1:53:56 AM UTC-8, Daniel47 wrote:
> >> > On 28/02/2016 1:34 PM, TB wrote:
> >> > > On Saturday, February 27, 2016 at 6:28:35 PM UTC-8, TB wrote:
> >> > >> 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 11 1 1 11 1 1 1 1 1
> >> > >>
> >> > >
> >> > > The Doctor says that ALL sentient beings need sleep. This would
> >> > > include Daleks, Cybermen, and Sontarans. Has anyone ever seen a
> >> > > Dalek, Cyberman, or Sontaran sleep normally, as opposed to being in
> >> > > suspended animation (Tomb of the Cybermen) or being knocked
> >> > > (Sontarans by being hit in the probic vent, or Strax by a shovel)?
> >> >
> >> > Has anyone ever seen The Doctor sleep??
> >> >
> >> > Daniel
> >>
> >> I've seen him sleeping after a regeneration!
> >
> >I have seen him sleeping with Martha Jones (The Shakespeare Code).
>
> Must you.

To my disappointment, ONLY sleep occurred in that scene!

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Amy's Choice: Strange pollen cause the Doctor, Amy, and Rory to sleep, and jump between two dreaming realities.

Last Christmas: A Dream Crab makes the Doctor sleep.

The Doctor

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Movellans and Mechanoids and Xoanan are pure machines

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And Shakespeare is the puppet.

BTW, there is a Shakespeare managing Leicester City.

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Drug induced states.

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On 16/03/2017 10:44 PM, The Doctor wrote:
> In article <78ef69bc-0a09-449b...@googlegroups.com>,
> Tim Bruening <tsbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Monday, February 29, 2016 at 5:20:52 AM UTC-8, Daniel60 wrote:
>>> On 29/02/2016 1:06 AM, TB wrote:
>>>> On Sunday, February 28, 2016 at 5:53:08 AM UTC-8, The Doctor wrote:
>>>>> In article <4df19a73-29a3-451a...@googlegroups.com>,
>>>>> TB <tsbr...@dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
>>>>>> On Sunday, February 28, 2016 at 1:53:56 AM UTC-8, Daniel47 wrote:
>>>>>>> On 28/02/2016 1:34 PM, TB wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Saturday, February 27, 2016 at 6:28:35 PM UTC-8, TB wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Doctor says that ALL sentient beings need sleep. This would
>>>>>>>> include Daleks, Cybermen, and Sontarans. Has anyone ever seen a
>>>>>>>> Dalek, Cyberman, or Sontaran sleep normally, as opposed to being in
>>>>>>>> suspended animation (Tomb of the Cybermen) or being knocked
>>>>>>>> (Sontarans by being hit in the probic vent, or Strax by a shovel)?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Has anyone ever seen The Doctor sleep??
>>>>>>

>>>>>> I've seen him sleeping after a regeneration!
>>>>>
>>>>> Not really.
>>>>
>>>> He looked to me like he was sleeping!
>>>>
>>> That would be the transition into the Tennant Doctor, I hope! Yes, he
>>> spent a bit of time in a Dressing Gown, didn't he?? Apart from that,
>>> which was after a regeneration, any other times of actual sleeping?
>>

>> Amy's Choice: Strange pollen cause the Doctor, Amy, and Rory to sleep,
>> and jump between two dreaming realities.
>>
>> Last Christmas: A Dream Crab makes the Doctor sleep.
>
> Drug induced states.
>

Yes! I was looking for times when, after a hard day interfering in
things, The Doctor just went to bed to rest.

Daniel

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The Shakespeare Code, The Lodger.

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In article <ae237663-39e9-461e...@googlegroups.com>,

10/10 Tim.

Daniel60

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Ah!! So it does happen.

Thank you, Tim.

Daniel

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TB wrote on 15/11/15 16:24:
> Spoilers:
>
> 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
>
> In the 38th century, Earth uses cloned soldiers known as "Grunts".
> Did Earth get the idea from the Sontarans?
>
In the 20th Century, Earth uses soldiers know as "Grunts". Well, at
least The Australian Army uses that slang!!

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U.S. Army in Vietnam as well. Don't know if the term took hold during
Korea or not. But it was well established when I joined in 1975.

Daniel60

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Pudentame wrote on 27/03/18 12:20:

Ditto. 1973 for me.

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I wonder if the search engines would have the answer.

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S09E09:

I mean "Did Earth get the idea of CLONING soldiers from the Sontarans?

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Most likely not.

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Well, why didn't you ask that question, then, Tim??

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I had mentioned that Earth was using cloned soldiers, then asked if Earth got the idea from the Sontarans. I assumed that it would be obvious that the word "idea" was in reference to Earth's use of cloned soldiers.
>
> --
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Or not.

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On Sunday, January 20, 2019 at 11:10:36 AM UTC-8, The Doctor wrote:
> In article <e9449efc-ae15-45ea...@googlegroups.com>,
> Timothy Bruening <tsbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >S09E09:
> >
> >On Sunday, March 18, 2018 at 6:49:47 AM UTC-7, Daniel60 wrote:
> >> TB wrote on 15/11/15 16:24:
> >> > Spoilers:
> >> >
> >> > 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
> >> >
> >> > In the 38th century, Earth uses cloned soldiers known as "Grunts".
> >> > Did Earth get the idea from the Sontarans?
> >> >
> >> In the 20th Century, Earth uses soldiers know as "Grunts". Well, at
> >> least The Australian Army uses that slang!!
> >
> >I mean "Did Earth get the idea of CLONING soldiers from the Sontarans?
>
> Most likely not.

The Sontarans seemed a logical source for the cloned soldier idea.

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How do you get the tech?

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On Thursday, October 31, 2019 at 5:22:42 AM UTC-7, The Doctor wrote:
> In article <3ba13f15-09af-4661...@googlegroups.com>,
> Tim Bruening <tsbru...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Sunday, January 20, 2019 at 11:10:36 AM UTC-8, The Doctor wrote:
> >> In article <e9449efc-ae15-45ea...@googlegroups.com>,
> >> Timothy Bruening <tsbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >S09E09:
> >> >
> >> >On Sunday, March 18, 2018 at 6:49:47 AM UTC-7, Daniel60 wrote:
> >> >> TB wrote on 15/11/15 16:24:
> >> >> > Spoilers:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
> >> >> >
> >> >> > In the 38th century, Earth uses cloned soldiers known as "Grunts".
> >> >> > Did Earth get the idea from the Sontarans?
> >> >> >
> >> >> In the 20th Century, Earth uses soldiers know as "Grunts". Well, at
> >> >> least The Australian Army uses that slang!!
> >> >
> >> >I mean "Did Earth get the idea of CLONING soldiers from the Sontarans?
> >>
> >> Most likely not.
> >
> >The Sontarans seemed a logical source for the cloned soldier idea.
>
> How do you get the tech?

From the ATMOS factory UNIT captured.

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In article <98dffb47-ac36-4315...@googlegroups.com>,

Timothy Bruening <tsbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Thursday, October 31, 2019 at 5:22:42 AM UTC-7, The Doctor wrote:
>> In article <3ba13f15-09af-4661...@googlegroups.com>,
>> Tim Bruening <tsbru...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Sunday, January 20, 2019 at 11:10:36 AM UTC-8, The Doctor wrote:
>> >> In article <e9449efc-ae15-45ea...@googlegroups.com>,
>> >> Timothy Bruening <tsbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >S09E09:
>> >> >
>> >> >On Sunday, March 18, 2018 at 6:49:47 AM UTC-7, Daniel60 wrote:
>> >> >> TB wrote on 15/11/15 16:24:
>> >> >> > Spoilers:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > In the 38th century, Earth uses cloned soldiers known as "Grunts".
>> >> >> > Did Earth get the idea from the Sontarans?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> In the 20th Century, Earth uses soldiers know as "Grunts". Well, at
>> >> >> least The Australian Army uses that slang!!
>> >> >
>> >> >I mean "Did Earth get the idea of CLONING soldiers from the Sontarans?
>> >>
>> >> Most likely not.
>> >
>> >The Sontarans seemed a logical source for the cloned soldier idea.
>>
>> How do you get the tech?
>
>From the ATMOS factory UNIT captured.

doing a TW?

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649On Sunday, November 15, 2015 at 8:47:32 AM UTC-8, Pudentame wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Nov 2015 12:43:00 +0000, Bill Jillians
> <willaim.j...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> >In message <darbeg...@mid.individual.net>, Mike M
> ><mi...@xenocyte.com> writes
> >>On 15/11/2015 07:02, Bill Jillians wrote:
> >>> In message <RKN1y.178527$L65.1...@fx47.am4>, Stephen Wilson
> >>> <stephen.wils...@ntlworld.com> writes
> >>>> So 16 years after the Blair Witch Project, Doctor Who tries doing a
> >>>> story in
> >>>> the same style. Perhaps it can be done effectively. But not this time.
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't know about "sleep no more", but I started drifting off within
> >>>> about
> >>>> 10 minutes. Maybe there's a story lurking in there somewhere, then again,
> >>>> maybe not.
> >>>>
> >>>> I think most of the cast were sleepwalking through the entire episode,
> >>>> and
> >>>> the Doctor and Clara were pretty superfluous. The only character of
> >>>> note was
> >>>> Rassmussen but even he was rather lacklustre.
> >>>>
> >>>> OK, so there were no moon sized eggs in this one, or sentient forests,
> >>>> but
> >>>> (if you haven't guessed) this one left me distinctly underwhelmed.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Good .... I hope you don't mind if I refer to your review in my review.
> >>> I haven't actually seen this yet.
> >>>
> >>
> >>I watched it but, like Stephen, found it difficult to concentrate. I'll
> >>have to watch it again before being able to write a commentary.
> >>
> >
> >M
> >A
> >C
> >B
> >E
> >T
> >H
> >
> >S
> >H
> >A
> >L
> >L
> >
> >S
> >L
> >E
> >E
> >P
> >
> >N
> >O
> >
> >M
> >O
> >R
> >E
> >
> >Well I've seen it now. Never seen an episode on which the Doctor was a
> >patsy and evil prevailed. It was a horror story with an interesting
> >ending for this show. Seem to remember they might have stolen the
> >ending from a recentish Hollywood gore fest.
> >
> >I enjoyed it partly because it left more questions unanswered than it
> >addressed.
> What about final episode of Patrick Troughton's first serial - The
> Power of the Daleks, where at the end as the TARDIS is dematerializing
> the supposedly dead Dalek's eye-stalk lights up?
>
> Hell, any episode featuring the Daleks ... they always lose, but they
> always come back.

Victory of the Daleks: An entire Dalek ship escpes from the Doctor.

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650On Sunday, February 28, 2016 at 5:53:08 AM UTC-8, netk...@gmail.com wrote:
> In article <4df19a73-29a3-451a...@googlegroups.com>,
> TB <tsbr...@dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
> >On Sunday, February 28, 2016 at 1:53:56 AM UTC-8, Daniel47 wrote:
> >> On 28/02/2016 1:34 PM, TB wrote:
> >> > On Saturday, February 27, 2016 at 6:28:35 PM UTC-8, TB wrote:

> >> >> 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 11 1 1 11 1 1 1 1 1

> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > The Doctor says that ALL sentient beings need sleep. This would
> >> > include Daleks, Cybermen, and Sontarans. Has anyone ever seen a
> >> > Dalek, Cyberman, or Sontaran sleep normally, as opposed to being in
> >> > suspended animation (Tomb of the Cybermen) or being knocked
> >> > (Sontarans by being hit in the probic vent, or Strax by a shovel)?
> >>
> >> Has anyone ever seen The Doctor sleep??
> >>

> >> Daniel

> >
> >I've seen him sleeping after a regeneration!
> Not really.

He looked fast asleep!

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651On Monday, February 29, 2016 at 5:20:52 AM UTC-8, Daniel47 wrote:
> On 29/02/2016 1:06 AM, TB wrote:

> > He looked to me like he was sleeping!
> >
> That would be the transition into the Tennant Doctor, I hope! Yes, he
> spent a bit of time in a Dressing Gown, didn't he?? Apart from that,
> which was after a regeneration, any other times of actual sleeping?

The Doctor and Martha slept together during The Shakespeare Code, but nothing sexual happened, so I assume that actual sleep happened.

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Rather was let go!

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9 -> 10 ?

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Script?

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96 On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 4:43:04 PM UTC-8, netk...@gmail.com wrote:
> In article <c146b2b8-3264-458d...@googlegroups.com>,
> tsbr...@gmail.com <tsbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >650On Sunday, February 28, 2016 at 5:53:08 AM UTC-8, netk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> In article <4df19a73-29a3-451a...@googlegroups.com>,
> >> TB <tsbr...@dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
> >> >On Sunday, February 28, 2016 at 1:53:56 AM UTC-8, Daniel47 wrote:
> >> >> On 28/02/2016 1:34 PM, TB wrote:
> >> >> > On Saturday, February 27, 2016 at 6:28:35 PM UTC-8, TB wrote:
> >> >> >> 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 11 1 1 11 1 1 1 1 1
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The Doctor says that ALL sentient beings need sleep. This would
> >> >> > include Daleks, Cybermen, and Sontarans. Has anyone ever seen a
> >> >> > Dalek, Cyberman, or Sontaran sleep normally, as opposed to being in
> >> >> > suspended animation (Tomb of the Cybermen) or being knocked
> >> >> > (Sontarans by being hit in the probic vent, or Strax by a shovel)?
> >> >>
> >> >> Has anyone ever seen The Doctor sleep??
> >> >>
> >> >> Daniel
> >> >
> >> >I've seen him sleeping after a regeneration!
> >> Not really.
> >
> >He looked fast asleep!
> 9 -> 10 ?

Fast asleep in Rose and Jackie Tyler's home, even as a spinning Christmas tree approached!

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Just quickly recovering.

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I had thought that it would be obvious from the context that "idea" referred to "cloned soldiers".

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Doubt it.

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tsbr...@gmail.com wrote on 8/8/21 10:00 am:

Come on, Tim, surely you know how stupid the idiot is!! You have to lay
things out for him or you get nothing!!
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Aug 8, 2021, 8:00:55 AM8/8/21

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In article <seo76b$jb6$3...@dont-email.me>,

Or get Tim to explain his obsessions.

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Oct 25, 2021, 1:59:05 AM10/25/21

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Also asleep during Castrovalva.

Daniel65

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tsbr...@gmail.com wrote on 25/10/21 4:59 pm:

So what's that?? Two sleeps in over 50 years!! No wonder The Doctor is
tired!!
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The Shakespeare Code: The Doctor slept with Martha Jones.

Daniel65

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tsbr...@gmail.com wrote on 25/10/21 7:48 pm:

Ah! Correct ..... but, then, did they really sleep??
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In article <558ca210-1811-43c1...@googlegroups.com>,

WEll trying to recover!

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Yahweh, Queen & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising!
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