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John Fleming

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Dec 12, 2009, 8:40:40 PM12/12/09
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Tonight the temperature here in Edmonton is forecast to drop
to a bone chilling -38 C.

And that is warm.

In Wetaskiwin, where cars cost less, the forecast is an even
more bone chilling -43 C.

BTW, both of those are without wind chill. With wind chill,
the temperatures will feel somewhat colder.

I'll be snuggled up in bed with a nice hot water bottle. No
watching Dr. Who. Things will be too darned cold elsewhere
in the house.

--

John Fleming
Edmonton, Canada

Old MacDonald had a farm E-I-E-I-O
And on that farm he had a genome E-I-E-I-O
With a SNP SNP here and a SNP SNP there,
Here a SNP, there a SNP, everywhere a SNP SNP
Old MacDonald had a farm E-I-E-I-O

pandora

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Dec 12, 2009, 10:08:03 PM12/12/09
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"John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
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>
> Tonight the temperature here in Edmonton is forecast to drop
> to a bone chilling -38 C.
>
> And that is warm.
>
> In Wetaskiwin, where cars cost less, the forecast is an even
> more bone chilling -43 C.
>
> BTW, both of those are without wind chill. With wind chill,
> the temperatures will feel somewhat colder.
>
> I'll be snuggled up in bed with a nice hot water bottle. No
> watching Dr. Who. Things will be too darned cold elsewhere
> in the house.

Have a nice fireplace put in your house. OR, a nice space heater.

Matthew Kruk

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Dec 12, 2009, 10:22:20 PM12/12/09
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"John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
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>
> Tonight the temperature here in Edmonton is forecast to drop
> to a bone chilling -38 C.
>
> And that is warm.
>
> In Wetaskiwin, where cars cost less, the forecast is an even
> more bone chilling -43 C.
>
> BTW, both of those are without wind chill. With wind chill,
> the temperatures will feel somewhat colder.
>
> I'll be snuggled up in bed with a nice hot water bottle. No
> watching Dr. Who. Things will be too darned cold elsewhere
> in the house.

Wuss.


John Fleming

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Dec 12, 2009, 10:23:58 PM12/12/09
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On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 19:08:03 -0800, while chained to a desk
in the scriptorium "pandora" <pan...@peak.org> wrote:
> $"John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
> $news:o3h8i51c4ol2p3l2t...@4ax.com...
> $>
> $> Tonight the temperature here in Edmonton is forecast to drop
> $> to a bone chilling -38 C.
> $>
> $> And that is warm.
> $>
> $> In Wetaskiwin, where cars cost less, the forecast is an even
> $> more bone chilling -43 C.
> $>
> $> BTW, both of those are without wind chill. With wind chill,
> $> the temperatures will feel somewhat colder.
> $>
> $> I'll be snuggled up in bed with a nice hot water bottle. No
> $> watching Dr. Who. Things will be too darned cold elsewhere
> $> in the house.
> $
> $Have a nice fireplace put in your house. OR, a nice space heater.

LOL

You mean the TV channel with the burning log just isn't good
enough?? ;)

Sharx35

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Dec 12, 2009, 10:28:51 PM12/12/09
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"pandora" <pan...@peak.org> wrote in message
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>
> "John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
> news:o3h8i51c4ol2p3l2t...@4ax.com...
>>
>> Tonight the temperature here in Edmonton is forecast to drop
>> to a bone chilling -38 C.
>>
>> And that is warm.
>>
>> In Wetaskiwin, where cars cost less, the forecast is an even
>> more bone chilling -43 C.
>>
>> BTW, both of those are without wind chill. With wind chill,
>> the temperatures will feel somewhat colder.
>>
>> I'll be snuggled up in bed with a nice hot water bottle. No
>> watching Dr. Who. Things will be too darned cold elsewhere
>> in the house.
>
> Have a nice fireplace put in your house. OR, a nice space heater.

John has a perfectly adequate heating system in his house, as do we. We
simply don't heat above 18 Celsius (64 Fahrenheit). At night, we turn the
thermostat lower. Natural gas is STILL not cheap, you know.

Matthew Kruk

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"Sharx35" <sha...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "pandora" <pan...@peak.org> wrote in message
> news:25ednRu40enCxrnW...@scnresearch.com...
>>
>> "John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
>> news:o3h8i51c4ol2p3l2t...@4ax.com...
>>>
>>> Tonight the temperature here in Edmonton is forecast to drop
>>> to a bone chilling -38 C.
>>>
>>> And that is warm.
>>>
>>> In Wetaskiwin, where cars cost less, the forecast is an even
>>> more bone chilling -43 C.
>>>
>>> BTW, both of those are without wind chill. With wind chill,
>>> the temperatures will feel somewhat colder.
>>>
>>> I'll be snuggled up in bed with a nice hot water bottle. No
>>> watching Dr. Who. Things will be too darned cold elsewhere
>>> in the house.
>>
>> Have a nice fireplace put in your house. OR, a nice space heater.
>
> John has a perfectly adequate heating system in his house, as do we.
> We simply don't heat above 18 Celsius (64 Fahrenheit). At night, we
> turn the thermostat lower. Natural gas is STILL not cheap, you know.

Sounds like you live above a morgue.


Sharx35

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Dec 12, 2009, 10:42:15 PM12/12/09
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"Matthew Kruk" <nob...@home.com> wrote in message
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This house is no strange to "stiffs".

John Fleming

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Dec 12, 2009, 10:50:34 PM12/12/09
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On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 20:37:21 -0700, while chained to a desk
in the scriptorium "Matthew Kruk" <nob...@home.com> wrote:
> $"Sharx35" <sha...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> $news:TbZUm.57334$PH1.6317@edtnps82...
> $>
> $> "pandora" <pan...@peak.org> wrote in message
> $> news:25ednRu40enCxrnW...@scnresearch.com...
> $>>
> $>> "John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
> $>> news:o3h8i51c4ol2p3l2t...@4ax.com...

> $>>>
> $>>> Tonight the temperature here in Edmonton is forecast to drop
> $>>> to a bone chilling -38 C.
> $>>>
> $>>> And that is warm.
> $>>>
> $>>> In Wetaskiwin, where cars cost less, the forecast is an even
> $>>> more bone chilling -43 C.
> $>>>
> $>>> BTW, both of those are without wind chill. With wind chill,
> $>>> the temperatures will feel somewhat colder.
> $>>>
> $>>> I'll be snuggled up in bed with a nice hot water bottle. No
> $>>> watching Dr. Who. Things will be too darned cold elsewhere
> $>>> in the house.
> $>>
> $>> Have a nice fireplace put in your house. OR, a nice space heater.
> $>
> $> John has a perfectly adequate heating system in his house, as do we.
> $> We simply don't heat above 18 Celsius (64 Fahrenheit). At night, we
> $> turn the thermostat lower. Natural gas is STILL not cheap, you know.
> $
> $Sounds like you live above a morgue.

I don't believe sharx manor is all that far from the Medical
Examiner's Office.

Matthew Kruk

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Dec 12, 2009, 10:51:28 PM12/12/09
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"Sharx35" <sha...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Ah so you admit that you like it when Mrs. Sharx wears lederhosen and
jackboots :-)


ahha

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Dec 12, 2009, 11:11:59 PM12/12/09
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John Fleming wrote:
>
> Tonight the temperature here in Edmonton is forecast to drop
> to a bone chilling -38 C.
>
> And that is warm.
>
> In Wetaskiwin, where cars cost less, the forecast is an even
> more bone chilling -43 C.
>
> BTW, both of those are without wind chill. With wind chill,
> the temperatures will feel somewhat colder.
>
> I'll be snuggled up in bed with a nice hot water bottle. No
> watching Dr. Who. Things will be too darned cold elsewhere
> in the house.

I'll be in my bed with a nice hoooooooooot girl. Is it more fun with a
nice hot water bottle?

John Fleming

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Dec 12, 2009, 11:20:50 PM12/12/09
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On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 21:11:59 -0700, while chained to a desk
in the scriptorium ahha <ha...@pluto.org> wrote:

> $John Fleming wrote:
> $>
> $> Tonight the temperature here in Edmonton is forecast to drop
> $> to a bone chilling -38 C.
> $>
> $> And that is warm.
> $>
> $> In Wetaskiwin, where cars cost less, the forecast is an even
> $> more bone chilling -43 C.
> $>
> $> BTW, both of those are without wind chill. With wind chill,
> $> the temperatures will feel somewhat colder.
> $>
> $> I'll be snuggled up in bed with a nice hot water bottle. No
> $> watching Dr. Who. Things will be too darned cold elsewhere
> $> in the house.
> $
> $I'll be in my bed with a nice hoooooooooot girl. Is it more fun with a
> $nice hot water bottle?

There is something to be said for nice hot girls.

PV

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Dec 13, 2009, 12:11:28 AM12/13/09
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Sharx35 wrote:
> "pandora" <pan...@peak.org> wrote in message
> news:25ednRu40enCxrnW...@scnresearch.com...
>>
>> "John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
>> news:o3h8i51c4ol2p3l2t...@4ax.com...
>>>
>>> Tonight the temperature here in Edmonton is forecast to drop
>>> to a bone chilling -38 C.
>>>
>>> And that is warm.
>>>
>>> In Wetaskiwin, where cars cost less, the forecast is an even
>>> more bone chilling -43 C.
>>>
>>> BTW, both of those are without wind chill. With wind chill,
>>> the temperatures will feel somewhat colder.
>>>
>>> I'll be snuggled up in bed with a nice hot water bottle. No
>>> watching Dr. Who. Things will be too darned cold elsewhere
>>> in the house.
>>
>> Have a nice fireplace put in your house. OR, a nice space heater.
>
> John has a perfectly adequate heating system in his house, as do we.
> We simply don't heat above 18 Celsius (64 Fahrenheit). At night, we
> turn the thermostat lower. Natural gas is STILL not cheap, you know.
>
>>

We take the money we save by not having air conditioning in the summer and
use it to keep the house warm this time of year.

--
PV

Stupidity is a condition
Ignorance is a choice


Sharx35

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Dec 13, 2009, 1:39:20 AM12/13/09
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About 3 miles.

Sharx35

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"PV" <edrnouser@ spam telus.net> wrote in message
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Vice versa. No hot, sweaty no-sleep nights at Sharx Manor.

John Fleming

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Dec 13, 2009, 9:00:20 AM12/13/09
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On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 06:39:20 GMT, while chained to a desk in
the scriptorium "Sharx35" <sha...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> $"John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
> $news:j2p8i5ltb18cvl6au...@4ax.com...
> $> On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 20:37:21 -0700, while chained to a desk
> $> in the scriptorium "Matthew Kruk" <nob...@home.com> wrote:
> $>> $"Sharx35" <sha...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> $>> $news:TbZUm.57334$PH1.6317@edtnps82...
> $>> $>

> $>> $> "pandora" <pan...@peak.org> wrote in message
> $>> $> news:25ednRu40enCxrnW...@scnresearch.com...

> $>> $>>
> $>> $>> "John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
> $>> $>> news:o3h8i51c4ol2p3l2t...@4ax.com...

> $>> $>>>
> $>> $>>> Tonight the temperature here in Edmonton is forecast to drop
> $>> $>>> to a bone chilling -38 C.

> $>> $>>>
> $>> $>>> And that is warm.
> $>> $>>>
> $>> $>>> In Wetaskiwin, where cars cost less, the forecast is an even
> $>> $>>> more bone chilling -43 C.

> $>> $>>>
> $>> $>>> BTW, both of those are without wind chill. With wind chill,
> $>> $>>> the temperatures will feel somewhat colder.

> $>> $>>>
> $>> $>>> I'll be snuggled up in bed with a nice hot water bottle. No
> $>> $>>> watching Dr. Who. Things will be too darned cold elsewhere
> $>> $>>> in the house.

> $>> $>>
> $>> $>> Have a nice fireplace put in your house. OR, a nice space heater.
> $>> $>
> $>> $> John has a perfectly adequate heating system in his house, as do we.
> $>> $> We simply don't heat above 18 Celsius (64 Fahrenheit). At night, we
> $>> $> turn the thermostat lower. Natural gas is STILL not cheap, you know.

> $>> $
> $>> $Sounds like you live above a morgue.
> $>
> $> I don't believe sharx manor is all that far from the Medical
> $> Examiner's Office.
> $
> $About 3 miles.

That close enough for immediate delivery, and under today's
temperature conditions, the stiffs will be nice and cold by
the time they reach you.

The Doctor

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Dec 13, 2009, 9:00:32 AM12/13/09
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In article <o3h8i51c4ol2p3l2t...@4ax.com>,

Do you have time to get your furnace changed out?
--
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The Doctor

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Better live and warm correct?

PV

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That's what my sources have told me......

Matthew Kruk

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Gives new meaning to necrophilia and "having a cold one".


John Fleming

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On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 11:36:20 -0700, while chained to a desk
in the scriptorium "Matthew Kruk" <nob...@home.com> wrote:
> $"John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
> $news:jps9i59dvivmcqopr...@4ax.com...
> $> On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 06:39:20 GMT, while chained to a desk in

> $> the scriptorium "Sharx35" <sha...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> $>> $"John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
> $>> $news:j2p8i5ltb18cvl6au...@4ax.com...
> $>> $> On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 20:37:21 -0700, while chained to a desk
> $>> $> in the scriptorium "Matthew Kruk" <nob...@home.com> wrote:
> $>> $>> $"Sharx35" <sha...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> $>> $>> $news:TbZUm.57334$PH1.6317@edtnps82...

[snip]

> $>> $>> $Sounds like you live above a morgue.
> $>> $>
> $>> $> I don't believe sharx manor is all that far from the Medical

> $>> $> Examiner's Office.
> $>> $
> $>> $About 3 miles.
> $>
> $> That close enough for immediate delivery, and under today's
> $> temperature conditions, the stiffs will be nice and cold by
> $> the time they reach you.
> $
> $Gives new meaning to necrophilia and "having a cold one".

<grin>

peachy ashie passion

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Dec 13, 2009, 2:47:26 PM12/13/09
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John Fleming wrote:
> Tonight the temperature here in Edmonton is forecast to drop
> to a bone chilling -38 C.
>
> And that is warm.
>
> In Wetaskiwin, where cars cost less, the forecast is an even
> more bone chilling -43 C.
>
> BTW, both of those are without wind chill. With wind chill,
> the temperatures will feel somewhat colder.
>
> I'll be snuggled up in bed with a nice hot water bottle. No
> watching Dr. Who. Things will be too darned cold elsewhere
> in the house.
>


Did y'all live through the cold?

I do not envy you!

John Fleming

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On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 14:47:26 -0500, while chained to a desk
in the scriptorium peachy ashie passion

<exquisi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> $John Fleming wrote:
> $> Tonight the temperature here in Edmonton is forecast to drop
> $> to a bone chilling -38 C.

> $>
> $> And that is warm.
> $>
> $> In Wetaskiwin, where cars cost less, the forecast is an even
> $> more bone chilling -43 C.
> $>
> $> BTW, both of those are without wind chill. With wind chill,
> $> the temperatures will feel somewhat colder.
> $>
> $> I'll be snuggled up in bed with a nice hot water bottle. No
> $> watching Dr. Who. Things will be too darned cold elsewhere

> $> in the house.
> $
> $ Did y'all live through the cold?
> $
> $I do not envy you!

Yes we did. And the city of Edmonton proper was apparently
a bit milder than the International airport. Matthew Kruk
just posted something saying the Edmonton International
Airport was the coldest place in Canada last night, with
temperatures dipping to something like -46 C.

Yes, those pools you see forming on the tarmac next to the
aircraft boarding ramps are pools of liquid oxygen. :)

pandora

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"Sharx35" <sha...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "pandora" <pan...@peak.org> wrote in message
> news:25ednRu40enCxrnW...@scnresearch.com...
> >
> > "John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
> > news:o3h8i51c4ol2p3l2t...@4ax.com...
> >>
> >> Tonight the temperature here in Edmonton is forecast to drop
> >> to a bone chilling -38 C.
> >>
> >> And that is warm.
> >>
> >> In Wetaskiwin, where cars cost less, the forecast is an even
> >> more bone chilling -43 C.
> >>
> >> BTW, both of those are without wind chill. With wind chill,
> >> the temperatures will feel somewhat colder.
> >>
> >> I'll be snuggled up in bed with a nice hot water bottle. No
> >> watching Dr. Who. Things will be too darned cold elsewhere
> >> in the house.
> >
> > Have a nice fireplace put in your house. OR, a nice space heater.
>
> John has a perfectly adequate heating system in his house, as do we. We
> simply don't heat above 18 Celsius (64 Fahrenheit). At night, we turn the
> thermostat lower. Natural gas is STILL not cheap, you know.

Understood and we do the same. It's still nice (and warmer) to have a
real fireplace in the middle of the house that heats the entire house. Wood
is easy to find around here.

Sharx35

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"Matthew Kruk" <nob...@home.com> wrote in message
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A stiff upper lip increases oral pleasure.

Sharx35

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"peachy ashie passion" <exquisi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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It's STILL cold. I can just imagine the next bill from the natural gas
company. We do have central heating, here. Our vehicles all have heaters,
too. And, gasp, some of us even wear toques, mitts (warmer than gloves) and
sheepskin parkas.

Matthew Kruk

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LOL!


Sharx35

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"pandora" <pan...@peak.org> wrote in message
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>
> "Sharx35" <sha...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:TbZUm.57334$PH1.6317@edtnps82...
>>
>> "pandora" <pan...@peak.org> wrote in message
>> news:25ednRu40enCxrnW...@scnresearch.com...
>> >
>> > "John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
>> > news:o3h8i51c4ol2p3l2t...@4ax.com...
>> >>
>> >> Tonight the temperature here in Edmonton is forecast to drop
>> >> to a bone chilling -38 C.
>> >>
>> >> And that is warm.
>> >>
>> >> In Wetaskiwin, where cars cost less, the forecast is an even
>> >> more bone chilling -43 C.
>> >>
>> >> BTW, both of those are without wind chill. With wind chill,
>> >> the temperatures will feel somewhat colder.
>> >>
>> >> I'll be snuggled up in bed with a nice hot water bottle. No
>> >> watching Dr. Who. Things will be too darned cold elsewhere
>> >> in the house.
>> >
>> > Have a nice fireplace put in your house. OR, a nice space heater.
>>
>> John has a perfectly adequate heating system in his house, as do we. We
>> simply don't heat above 18 Celsius (64 Fahrenheit). At night, we turn the
>> thermostat lower. Natural gas is STILL not cheap, you know.
>
> Understood and we do the same. It's still nice (and warmer) to have a
> real fireplace in the middle of the house that heats the entire house.
> Wood
> is easy to find around here.

Aside from the gas furnace, we have a fireplace in the living room,
converted to gas several years ago. It is the type that doesn't need
electricity to operate, unlike the furnace. Good in case of winter power
failures--hardly anyone here, at least in the city, has a back-up generator.
In the basement, there is another fireplace, with its own flue, for burning
wood. In the direst of emergencies, i.e. no gas and no power, we could use
it. We keep a supply of wood, mainly birch, on hand...just in case. Having a
central heater in this house would require major ripping out of walls, etc.
In 1968, the "open" concept was not in vogue.

Ryan P.

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Dec 13, 2009, 3:58:41 PM12/13/09
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On 12/13/2009 1:59 PM, John Fleming wrote:

> Yes we did. And the city of Edmonton proper was apparently
> a bit milder than the International airport. Matthew Kruk
> just posted something saying the Edmonton International
> Airport was the coldest place in Canada last night, with
> temperatures dipping to something like -46 C.

I will not complain about the 1 F temps that we had a couple days ago
then! Although, when it was 45 F just two days before, its still a shock!

The coldest night here in Milwaukee that *I* can remember was -25 F,
which is still only -31 C... You can keep the -46 C up north, thank
you. :)

The Doctor

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Dec 13, 2009, 4:37:33 PM12/13/09
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In article <SuaVm.376167$Jp1.1...@en-nntp-06.dc1.easynews.com>,

That is sick!!

The Doctor

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Dec 13, 2009, 4:38:13 PM12/13/09
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In article <fadai5po5nkdvua2s...@4ax.com>,

;-(

The Doctor

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Dec 13, 2009, 4:49:25 PM12/13/09
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In article <hg3gb...@news2.newsguy.com>,

And still do!!

The Doctor

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Dec 13, 2009, 4:50:51 PM12/13/09
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What about #yeg getting -59C With wind chill?

The Doctor

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Welcome to the Northern Hemisphere in Dec !

peachy ashie passion

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The Doctor wrote:
> In article <hg3ki2$i65$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> Ryan P. <rdelet...@wi.rr.comm> wrote:
>> On 12/13/2009 1:59 PM, John Fleming wrote:
>>
>>> Yes we did. And the city of Edmonton proper was apparently
>>> a bit milder than the International airport. Matthew Kruk
>>> just posted something saying the Edmonton International
>>> Airport was the coldest place in Canada last night, with
>>> temperatures dipping to something like -46 C.
>> I will not complain about the 1 F temps that we had a couple days ago
>> then! Although, when it was 45 F just two days before, its still a shock!
>>
>> The coldest night here in Milwaukee that *I* can remember was -25 F,
>> which is still only -31 C... You can keep the -46 C up north, thank
>> you. :)
>
> Welcome to the Northern Hemisphere in Dec !

He's in Milwaukee, which is IN the northern hemisphere. Already.

pandora

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"Sharx35" <sha...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Good move. I remember the Columbus Day storm of 1962. My
Dad figured we'd be okay with no power as we had an oil furnace.
Uh, Dad? The pump that brings the oil from the underground storage
to the furnace is electric, isn't it? He'd forgotten that.

Good in case of winter power
> failures--hardly anyone here, at least in the city, has a back-up
generator.

We do, but mainly for the freezer.

> In the basement, there is another fireplace, with its own flue, for
burning
> wood. In the direst of emergencies, i.e. no gas and no power, we could use
> it. We keep a supply of wood, mainly birch, on hand...just in case.

Good idea. We have a huge woodpile of mainly oak. Burns nicely when
it's really cold OR the power is out.

Having a
> central heater in this house would require major ripping out of walls,
etc.
> In 1968, the "open" concept was not in vogue.

Yeah. I remember. Our house was built in 1992 and it has a huge
granite fireplace in the center of the house, open to the livingroom,
kitchen and diningroom. Makes for a very toasty place in an
emergency.

> >


The Doctor

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Dec 13, 2009, 7:28:23 PM12/13/09
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In article <nbudneDFkbJ07LjW...@scnresearch.com>,

Up here this cold whether is needed to kill off a pine beetle.

John Fleming

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On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 17:14:50 -0500, while chained to a desk

in the scriptorium peachy ashie passion
<exquisi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> $The Doctor wrote:
> $> In article <hg3ki2$i65$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> $> Ryan P. <rdelet...@wi.rr.comm> wrote:
> $>> On 12/13/2009 1:59 PM, John Fleming wrote:
> $>>
> $>>> Yes we did. And the city of Edmonton proper was apparently
> $>>> a bit milder than the International airport. Matthew Kruk
> $>>> just posted something saying the Edmonton International
> $>>> Airport was the coldest place in Canada last night, with
> $>>> temperatures dipping to something like -46 C.
> $>> I will not complain about the 1 F temps that we had a couple days ago
> $>> then! Although, when it was 45 F just two days before, its still a shock!
> $>>
> $>> The coldest night here in Milwaukee that *I* can remember was -25 F,
> $>> which is still only -31 C... You can keep the -46 C up north, thank
> $>> you. :)
> $>
> $> Welcome to the Northern Hemisphere in Dec !
> $
> $ He's in Milwaukee, which is IN the northern hemisphere. Already.

There is a reason we think the taxpayer got shortchange when
it came to funding the doctor's education.

John Fleming

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On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 14:58:41 -0600, while chained to a desk
in the scriptorium "Ryan P." <rdelet...@wi.rr.comm>
wrote:
> $On 12/13/2009 1:59 PM, John Fleming wrote:
> $
> $> Yes we did. And the city of Edmonton proper was apparently
> $> a bit milder than the International airport. Matthew Kruk
> $> just posted something saying the Edmonton International
> $> Airport was the coldest place in Canada last night, with
> $> temperatures dipping to something like -46 C.
> $
> $ I will not complain about the 1 F temps that we had a couple days ago
> $then! Although, when it was 45 F just two days before, its still a shock!
> $
> $ The coldest night here in Milwaukee that *I* can remember was -25 F,
> $which is still only -31 C... You can keep the -46 C up north, thank
> $you. :)

Unfortunately, we don't have any control on where this cold
weather goes.

I was out this afternoon, and really wished I could have
stayed indoors where it is nice and warm.

The Doctor

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Dec 13, 2009, 8:37:45 PM12/13/09
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In article <ai5bi5dq1smf9hbsr...@4ax.com>,

As long as the pine beetle is frozen to death ...

John Fleming

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the scriptorium "Sharx35" <sha...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> $"peachy ashie passion" <exquisi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> $news:hg3gb...@news2.newsguy.com...

> $> John Fleming wrote:
> $>> Tonight the temperature here in Edmonton is forecast to drop
> $>> to a bone chilling -38 C.
> $>>
> $>> And that is warm.
> $>>
> $>> In Wetaskiwin, where cars cost less, the forecast is an even
> $>> more bone chilling -43 C.
> $>>
> $>> BTW, both of those are without wind chill. With wind chill,
> $>> the temperatures will feel somewhat colder.
> $>>
> $>> I'll be snuggled up in bed with a nice hot water bottle. No
> $>> watching Dr. Who. Things will be too darned cold elsewhere
> $>> in the house.
> $>>
> $>
> $>
> $> Did y'all live through the cold?
> $>
> $> I do not envy you!
> $
> $It's STILL cold. I can just imagine the next bill from the natural gas
> $company. We do have central heating, here. Our vehicles all have heaters,
> $too. And, gasp, some of us even wear toques, mitts (warmer than gloves) and
> $sheepskin parkas.

I'm not looking forward to the gas bill either.

While I have taken steps over the past four years to improve
the energy efficiency of my humble country estate, I am
still a long way away from where I could be in this area.

John Fleming

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On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 20:56:00 GMT, while chained to a desk in

the scriptorium "Sharx35" <sha...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> $"pandora" <pan...@peak.org> wrote in message
> $news:77WdncccefLxzbjW...@scnresearch.com...

> $> Understood and we do the same. It's still nice (and warmer) to have a
> $> real fireplace in the middle of the house that heats the entire house.
> $> Wood
> $> is easy to find around here.
> $
> $Aside from the gas furnace, we have a fireplace in the living room,
> $converted to gas several years ago. It is the type that doesn't need
> $electricity to operate, unlike the furnace. Good in case of winter power
> $failures--hardly anyone here, at least in the city, has a back-up generator.
> $In the basement, there is another fireplace, with its own flue, for burning
> $wood. In the direst of emergencies, i.e. no gas and no power, we could use
> $it. We keep a supply of wood, mainly birch, on hand...just in case. Having a
> $central heater in this house would require major ripping out of walls, etc.
> $In 1968, the "open" concept was not in vogue.

I would be in trouble if I lost electricity. Deep trouble.

The Doctor

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Dec 13, 2009, 8:47:11 PM12/13/09
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In article <3l5bi55j8ps2rh5ah...@4ax.com>,

Aren't you talking advanteg of the REno Programme?

Ryan P.

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Dec 14, 2009, 7:27:05 PM12/14/09
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Thank goodness our local had a budget plan that averages out the cost
over the course of the year. Its a bit annoying in the summer paying so
much, but helpful in the winter!

Sharx35

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"Ryan P." <rdelet...@wi.rr.comm> wrote in message
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Likewise, I am on ENMAX equalized payment plan.

John Fleming

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On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 18:27:05 -0600, while chained to a desk

in the scriptorium "Ryan P." <rdelet...@wi.rr.comm>
wrote:
> $On 12/13/2009 7:39 PM, John Fleming wrote:
> $> On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 20:51:35 GMT, while chained to a desk in
> $> the scriptorium "Sharx35"<sha...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> $>> $"peachy ashie passion"<exquisi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> $>> $news:hg3gb...@news2.newsguy.com...
> $>> $> John Fleming wrote:
> $>> $>> Tonight the temperature here in Edmonton is forecast to drop
> $>> $>> to a bone chilling -38 C.

> $>> $>>
> $>> $>> And that is warm.
> $>> $>>
> $>> $>> In Wetaskiwin, where cars cost less, the forecast is an even
> $>> $>> more bone chilling -43 C.

> $>> $>>
> $>> $>> BTW, both of those are without wind chill. With wind chill,
> $>> $>> the temperatures will feel somewhat colder.

> $>> $>>
> $>> $>> I'll be snuggled up in bed with a nice hot water bottle. No
> $>> $>> watching Dr. Who. Things will be too darned cold elsewhere
> $>> $>> in the house.

> $>> $>>
> $>> $>
> $>> $>
> $>> $> Did y'all live through the cold?
> $>> $>
> $>> $> I do not envy you!
> $>> $
> $>> $It's STILL cold. I can just imagine the next bill from the natural gas
> $>> $company. We do have central heating, here. Our vehicles all have heaters,
> $>> $too. And, gasp, some of us even wear toques, mitts (warmer than gloves) and
> $>> $sheepskin parkas.
> $>
> $> I'm not looking forward to the gas bill either.
> $>
> $> While I have taken steps over the past four years to improve
> $> the energy efficiency of my humble country estate, I am
> $> still a long way away from where I could be in this area.
> $
> $ Thank goodness our local had a budget plan that averages out the cost
> $over the course of the year. Its a bit annoying in the summer paying so
> $much, but helpful in the winter!

I actually do go with seasonal payments, and that's so I
have more unencumbered cash flow during the summer months
with I'm more likely to have home reno projects on the go.

There are benefits to going either way.

The Doctor

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Dec 15, 2009, 9:54:25 AM12/15/09
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In article <mf4ei5locsqn5l5r6...@4ax.com>,

Including dying pine beetles.

Mr.Smartypants

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On Dec 13, 5:28 pm, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
> In article <nbudneDFkbJ07LjWnZ2dnUVZ_sWdn...@scnresearch.com>,
>
>
>
>
>
> pandora <pand...@peak.org> wrote:
>
> >"Sharx35" <shar...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:AxcVm.57441$PH1.27384@edtnps82...
>
> >> "pandora" <pand...@peak.org> wrote in message
> >>news:77WdncccefLxzbjW...@scnresearch.com...
>
> >> > "Sharx35" <shar...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:TbZUm.57334$PH1.6317@edtnps82...
>
> >> >> "pandora" <pand...@peak.org> wrote in message


Wish it would kill off YOU.

Loaf of Bread

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On Dec 15, 3:00 pm, "Mr.Smartypants" <bunghole-jon...@lycos.com>
wrote:

That would be a good thing.

Loaf of Bread

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On Dec 15, 7:54 am, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
> In article <mf4ei5locsqn5l5r6bpn5m3nsrhdafs...@4ax.com>,

> John Fleming  <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 18:27:05 -0600, while chained to a desk
> >in the scriptorium "Ryan P." <rdeletepa...@wi.rr.comm>

> >wrote:
> >> $On 12/13/2009 7:39 PM, John Fleming wrote:
> >> $> On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 20:51:35 GMT, while chained to a desk in
> >> $> the scriptorium "Sharx35"<shar...@hotmail.com>  wrote:
> >> $>> $"peachy ashie passion"<exquisitepe...@hotmail.com>  wrote in message

You can't follow a conversation, can you?

pandora

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Dec 15, 2009, 6:22:59 PM12/15/09
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Ayup. We do the same with our electricity. It's rather expensive
out here in the boonies so we spread the cost over the entire year.
We don't use a lot of electricity in the summer as we turn the heat
off and we don't have air conditioning. Well, not that electricity
would power. We just open all the doors and windows and let the ocean
breeze come on in. :-)

pandora

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Dec 15, 2009, 6:42:41 PM12/15/09
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Hehehehehe. We solved that problem by MY paying for the renovation
projects and my hubby paying for the electricity. Works for us. :-)

> There are benefits to going either way.

I can see that.

The Doctor

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Dec 15, 2009, 8:48:27 PM12/15/09
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In article <29759f04-408a-429c...@d9g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
Mr.Smartypants <bunghol...@lycos.com> wrote:

>On Dec 13, 5:28=A0pm, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
>> In article <nbudneDFkbJ07LjWnZ2dnUVZ_sWdn...@scnresearch.com>,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> pandora <pand...@peak.org> wrote:
>>
>> >"Sharx35" <shar...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >news:AxcVm.57441$PH1.27384@edtnps82...
>>
>> >> "pandora" <pand...@peak.org> wrote in message
>> >>news:77WdncccefLxzbjW...@scnresearch.com...
>>
>> >> > "Sharx35" <shar...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> >news:TbZUm.57334$PH1.6317@edtnps82...
>>
>> >> >> "pandora" <pand...@peak.org> wrote in message
>> >> >>news:25ednRu40enCxrnW...@scnresearch.com...
>>
>> >> >> > "John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> >news:o3h8i51c4ol2p3l2t...@4ax.com...
>>
>> >> >> >> Tonight the temperature here in Edmonton is forecast to drop
>> >> >> >> to a bone chilling -38 C.
>>
>> >> >> >> And that is warm.
>>
>> >> >> >> In Wetaskiwin, where cars cost less, the forecast is an even
>> >> >> >> more bone chilling -43 C.
>>
>> >> >> >> BTW, both of those are without wind chill. =A0With wind chill,

>> >> >> >> the temperatures will feel somewhat colder.
>>
>> >> >> >> I'll be snuggled up in bed with a nice hot water bottle. =A0No
>> >> >> >> watching Dr. Who. =A0Things will be too darned cold elsewhere
>> >> >> >> in the house.
>>
>> >> >> > Have a nice fireplace put in your house. =A0OR, a nice space heat=
>er.
>>
>> >> >> John has a perfectly adequate heating system in his house, as do we=
>. We
>> >> >> simply don't heat above 18 Celsius (64 Fahrenheit). At night, we tu=
>rn
>> >the
>> >> >> thermostat lower. =A0Natural gas is STILL not cheap, you know.
>>
>> >> > Understood and we do the same. =A0It's still nice (and warmer) to ha=
>ve a
>> >> > real fireplace in the middle of the house that heats the entire hous=

>e.
>> >> > Wood
>> >> > is easy to find around here.
>>
>> >> Aside from the gas furnace, we have a fireplace in the living room,
>> >> converted to gas several years ago. It is the type that doesn't need
>> >> electricity to operate, unlike the furnace.
>>
>> >Good move. =A0I remember the Columbus Day storm of 1962. =A0My

>> >Dad figured we'd be okay with no power as we had an oil furnace.
>> >Uh, Dad? =A0The pump that brings the oil from the underground storage
>> >to the furnace is electric, isn't it? =A0He'd forgotten that.

>>
>> >Good in case of winter power
>> >> failures--hardly anyone here, at least in the city, has a back-up
>> >generator.
>>
>> >We do, but mainly for the freezer.
>>
>> >> In the basement, there is another fireplace, with its own flue, for
>> >burning
>> >> wood. In the direst of emergencies, i.e. no gas and no power, we could=

> use
>> >> it. We keep a supply of wood, mainly birch, on hand...just in case.
>>
>> >Good idea. =A0We have a huge woodpile of mainly oak. =A0Burns nicely whe=

>n
>> >it's really cold OR the power is out.
>>
>> >Having a
>> >> central heater in this house would require major ripping out of walls,
>> >etc.
>> >> In 1968, the "open" concept was not in vogue.
>>
>> >Yeah. =A0I remember. =A0Our house was built in 1992 and it has a huge

>> >granite fireplace in the center of the house, open to the livingroom,
>> >kitchen and diningroom. =A0Makes for a very toasty place in an

>> >emergency.
>>
>> Up here this cold whether is needed to kill off a pine beetle.
>> --
>
>
>Wish it would kill off YOU.

Said Waffen SS troll Ron Hamilton.

John Fleming

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Dec 15, 2009, 11:57:20 PM12/15/09
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On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 17:42:41 -0600, while chained to a desk
in the scriptorium pandora <pan...@peak.org> wrote:
> $On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 21:37:39 -0700, John Fleming wrote:
> $> On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 18:27:05 -0600, while chained to a desk in the
> $> scriptorium "Ryan P." <rdelet...@wi.rr.comm> wrote:

[snip]

> $> I actually do go with seasonal payments, and that's so I have more
> $> unencumbered cash flow during the summer months with I'm more likely to
> $> have home reno projects on the go.
> $
> $Hehehehehe. We solved that problem by MY paying for the renovation
> $projects and my hubby paying for the electricity. Works for us. :-)

That would work. ;)

> $> There are benefits to going either way.
> $
> $I can see that.

The Doctor

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Dec 16, 2009, 8:32:57 AM12/16/09
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In article <v3qgi5d8h6vocsjp2...@4ax.com>,

REno rebate still on in Canada.

Loaf of Bread

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Dec 16, 2009, 1:52:02 PM12/16/09
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On Dec 16, 6:32 am, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:

> REno rebate still on in Canada.

You don't do renos you FAT tub of LARD. It cuts into the time you
spend masturbating behind your keyboard.

pandora

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Dec 16, 2009, 10:42:02 PM12/16/09
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"John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
news:v3qgi5d8h6vocsjp2...@4ax.com...

> On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 17:42:41 -0600, while chained to a desk
> in the scriptorium pandora <pan...@peak.org> wrote:
> > $On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 21:37:39 -0700, John Fleming wrote:
> > $> On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 18:27:05 -0600, while chained to a desk in the
> > $> scriptorium "Ryan P." <rdelet...@wi.rr.comm> wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> > $> I actually do go with seasonal payments, and that's so I have more
> > $> unencumbered cash flow during the summer months with I'm more likely
to
> > $> have home reno projects on the go.
> > $
> > $Hehehehehe. We solved that problem by MY paying for the renovation
> > $projects and my hubby paying for the electricity. Works for us. :-)
>
> That would work. ;)

By the way, we got the plumbing done in the laundry room,
the new toilet in and a new vent hose (the other was broken
and laying on the ground), and a new ceramic tile floor laid.
It looks lovely and will be well worth the $5000 it cost when
all the family is here for Christmas weekend. I'm glad I did it!

peachy ashie passion

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Dec 17, 2009, 7:07:56 AM12/17/09
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pandora wrote:
> "John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
> news:v3qgi5d8h6vocsjp2...@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 17:42:41 -0600, while chained to a desk
>> in the scriptorium pandora <pan...@peak.org> wrote:
>>> $On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 21:37:39 -0700, John Fleming wrote:
>>> $> On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 18:27:05 -0600, while chained to a desk in the
>>> $> scriptorium "Ryan P." <rdelet...@wi.rr.comm> wrote:
>> [snip]
>>
>>> $> I actually do go with seasonal payments, and that's so I have more
>>> $> unencumbered cash flow during the summer months with I'm more likely
> to
>>> $> have home reno projects on the go.
>>> $
>>> $Hehehehehe. We solved that problem by MY paying for the renovation
>>> $projects and my hubby paying for the electricity. Works for us. :-)
>> That would work. ;)
>
> By the way, we got the plumbing done in the laundry room,
> the new toilet in and a new vent hose (the other was broken
> and laying on the ground), and a new ceramic tile floor laid.
> It looks lovely and will be well worth the $5000 it cost when
> all the family is here for Christmas weekend. I'm glad I did it!
>

Congratulations on getting it done!!

Loaf of Bread

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On Dec 16, 8:42 pm, "pandora" <pand...@peak.org> wrote:
> "John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
> news:v3qgi5d8h6vocsjp2...@4ax.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 17:42:41 -0600, while chained to a desk
> > in the scriptorium pandora <pand...@peak.org> wrote:
> > > $On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 21:37:39 -0700, John Fleming wrote:
> > > $> On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 18:27:05 -0600, while chained to a desk in the
> > > $> scriptorium "Ryan P." <rdeletepa...@wi.rr.comm> wrote:
>
> > [snip]
>
> > > $> I actually do go with seasonal payments, and that's so I have more
> > > $> unencumbered cash flow during the summer months with I'm more likely
> to
> > > $> have home reno projects on the go.
> > > $
> > > $Hehehehehe.  We solved that problem by MY paying for the renovation
> > > $projects and my hubby paying for the electricity.  Works for us.  :-)
>
> > That would work.  ;)
>
> By the way, we got the plumbing done in the laundry room,
> the new toilet in and a new vent hose (the other was broken
> and laying on the ground), and a new ceramic tile floor laid.
> It looks lovely and will be well worth the $5000 it cost when
> all the family is here for Christmas weekend.  I'm glad I did it!

WOW!!

Sounds like you got a good job done.

pandora

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Thanx! It looks great and I'm one very happy camper.

John Fleming

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On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 19:42:02 -0800, while chained to a desk

in the scriptorium "pandora" <pan...@peak.org> wrote:
> $"John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
> $news:v3qgi5d8h6vocsjp2...@4ax.com...
> $> On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 17:42:41 -0600, while chained to a desk
> $> in the scriptorium pandora <pan...@peak.org> wrote:
> $> > $On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 21:37:39 -0700, John Fleming wrote:
> $> > $> On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 18:27:05 -0600, while chained to a desk in the
> $> > $> scriptorium "Ryan P." <rdelet...@wi.rr.comm> wrote:
> $>
> $> [snip]
> $>
> $> > $> I actually do go with seasonal payments, and that's so I have more
> $> > $> unencumbered cash flow during the summer months with I'm more likely
> $to
> $> > $> have home reno projects on the go.

> $> > $
> $> > $Hehehehehe. We solved that problem by MY paying for the renovation
> $> > $projects and my hubby paying for the electricity. Works for us. :-)
> $>
> $> That would work. ;)
> $
> $By the way, we got the plumbing done in the laundry room,
> $the new toilet in and a new vent hose (the other was broken
> $and laying on the ground), and a new ceramic tile floor laid.
> $It looks lovely and will be well worth the $5000 it cost when
> $all the family is here for Christmas weekend. I'm glad I did it!

A friend of mine got his bathroom redone this year. New
toilet, new bathtub, new tiles, plumbing and electrical
upgrades. The full meal deal.

He said he paid about $12,000 for the work.

> $> > $> There are benefits to going either way.

pandora

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Dec 18, 2009, 2:38:34 AM12/18/09
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Sounds about right. If I wanted to redo my bathroom, it
would cost more like $30,000. I want one of those cool
tubs that swing open. And I'd need a wall taken out. I'd
also like one of those really nice tile walkin showers,
big enough so a person could turn around in it and maybe
even install a bench so us *oldies* could sit to shower.
:-)

Not going to happen for several years, if at all.

The Doctor

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He is eligible for a tax rebate.

Loaf of Bread

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On Dec 18, 9:19 am, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:

[usual garbage]

Quit stating the obvious you stupid prick.

John Fleming

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On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 01:38:34 -0600, while chained to a desk

in the scriptorium pandora <pan...@peak.org> wrote:
> $On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 21:56:30 -0700, John Fleming wrote:
> $> On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 19:42:02 -0800, while chained to a desk in the
> $> scriptorium "pandora" <pan...@peak.org> wrote:
> $>> $"John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
> $>> $news:v3qgi5d8h6vocsjp2...@4ax.com... $> On Tue, 15 Dec
> $>> 2009 17:42:41 -0600, while chained to a desk $> in the scriptorium
> $>> pandora <pan...@peak.org> wrote: $> > $On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 21:37:39
> $>> -0700, John Fleming wrote: $> > $> On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 18:27:05 -0600,
> $>> while chained to a desk in the $> > $> scriptorium "Ryan P."
> $>> <rdelet...@wi.rr.comm> wrote: $>

> $>> $> [snip]
> $>> $>
> $>> $> > $> I actually do go with seasonal payments, and that's so I have
> $>> more $> > $> unencumbered cash flow during the summer months with I'm
> $>> more likely $to
> $>> $> > $> have home reno projects on the go. $> > $
> $>> $> > $Hehehehehe. We solved that problem by MY paying for the
> $>> renovation $> > $projects and my hubby paying for the electricity.
> $>> Works for us. :-) $>

> $>> $> That would work. ;)
> $>> $
> $>> $By the way, we got the plumbing done in the laundry room, $the new
> $>> toilet in and a new vent hose (the other was broken $and laying on the
> $>> ground), and a new ceramic tile floor laid. $It looks lovely and will
> $>> be well worth the $5000 it cost when $all the family is here for
> $>> Christmas weekend. I'm glad I did it!
> $>
> $> A friend of mine got his bathroom redone this year. New toilet, new
> $> bathtub, new tiles, plumbing and electrical upgrades. The full meal
> $> deal.
> $
> $> He said he paid about $12,000 for the work.
> $
> $Sounds about right. If I wanted to redo my bathroom, it
> $would cost more like $30,000. I want one of those cool
> $tubs that swing open. And I'd need a wall taken out. I'd
> $also like one of those really nice tile walkin showers,
> $big enough so a person could turn around in it and maybe
> $even install a bench so us *oldies* could sit to shower.
> $:-)

Given those costs, I'm not looking forward to doing mine any
time soon. Not unless I can figure out a way to get a lot
of extra moola to pay for it. :(

The tile walkin shower sounds like something I want. The
tub doesn't have to be as fancy as the one you want.

A lot of the projects I plan to do, I can do myself, and
enjoy doing them.

But the downside risks that come with me making mistakes in
a bathroom reno suggest it is something I want a
professional to do. (Of course, as my skills improve, I may
see parts of the project I'd be happy doing myself.

> $Not going to happen for several years, if at all.

pandora

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Well, we're retired now and we planned rather well. It's just a
matter of waiting for the checks to come in. :-)

> The tile walkin shower sounds like something I want. The tub doesn't
> have to be as fancy as the one you want.

It's not really fancy; just convenient as one doesn't have
to climb into it. Good for oldies with bad knees like my
hubby. Our eldest son just bought a new house last year
and it has the most marvelous walkin shower I've ever seen.
It's big enough that NO shower door is needed. I like that.



> A lot of the projects I plan to do, I can do myself, and enjoy doing
> them.

We did too for the first 20 or so years of owning our
*other* house. After that, it became a chore.

> But the downside risks that come with me making mistakes in a bathroom
> reno suggest it is something I want a professional to do. (Of course,
> as my skills improve, I may see parts of the project I'd be happy doing
> myself.

Yep, there is that. The more one does, the more one learns. We;re
actually planning on installing fake wood floors in our two upstairs
studies (I think it's called a floating floor.) It's cheaper and
easier to install than what we had put in downstairs. Or so they say.
I'll let you know how it goes. We've bought the flooring already;
it's just a matter of doing the work. Oh, and moving out the furniture
upstairs of course. Not an easy thing to do. It will be worth it
though, IMO, as we both have bad allergies and the carpet that is
in there now is just too difficult to clean what with all the
bookshelves.

John Fleming

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On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 19:34:49 -0600, while chained to a desk

in the scriptorium pandora <pan...@peak.org> wrote:
> $On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 19:24:48 -0700, John Fleming wrote:

> $> Given those costs, I'm not looking forward to doing mine any time soon.
> $> Not unless I can figure out a way to get a lot of extra moola to pay for
> $> it. :(
> $
> $Well, we're retired now and we planned rather well. It's just a
> $matter of waiting for the checks to come in. :-)

<grin>

> $> The tile walkin shower sounds like something I want. The tub doesn't
> $> have to be as fancy as the one you want.
> $
> $It's not really fancy; just convenient as one doesn't have
> $to climb into it. Good for oldies with bad knees like my
> $hubby. Our eldest son just bought a new house last year
> $and it has the most marvelous walkin shower I've ever seen.
> $It's big enough that NO shower door is needed. I like that.

I've seen those walk in showers in a couple of dream homes
now, and they are the coolest looking things. But the ones
I've seen have had the showerhead coming out of the wall. I
wonder what they'd be like with one of those overhead
"rainshower" type shower heads.

> $> A lot of the projects I plan to do, I can do myself, and enjoy doing
> $> them.
> $
> $We did too for the first 20 or so years of owning our
> $*other* house. After that, it became a chore.

When it becomes a chore, yes, it is time to find other ways
to do things.

I'm still new enough at doing them that I find dong the
projects fun and exciting.

> $> But the downside risks that come with me making mistakes in a bathroom
> $> reno suggest it is something I want a professional to do. (Of course,
> $> as my skills improve, I may see parts of the project I'd be happy doing
> $> myself.
> $
> $Yep, there is that. The more one does, the more one learns. We;re
> $actually planning on installing fake wood floors in our two upstairs
> $studies (I think it's called a floating floor.) It's cheaper and
> $easier to install than what we had put in downstairs. Or so they say.
> $I'll let you know how it goes. We've bought the flooring already;
> $it's just a matter of doing the work. Oh, and moving out the furniture
> $upstairs of course. Not an easy thing to do. It will be worth it
> $though, IMO, as we both have bad allergies and the carpet that is
> $in there now is just too difficult to clean what with all the
> $bookshelves.

Sounds a bit like laminate flooring you have in mind. My
understanding is they work that way.

Over Christmas, there is a bedroom ceiling I plan to do.
There is also some prep work I have to do on the walls in
said bedroom, and if I get that done, I can look at painting
the walls on the weekend of the Family Day holiday.

> $>> $Not going to happen for several years, if at all.

The Doctor

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Ever tried bieng a polar bear?

The Doctor

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Just remember Home Depot.

Mr.Smartypants

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On Dec 19, 8:37 pm, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
> In article <hl0ri5lsa7mqi48raen16d9m4dml96f...@4ax.com>,


Yep! Canada's premiere sex toy shop.

The Doctor

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In article <aae889fb-71ad-4853...@a39g2000pre.googlegroups.com>,
Mr.Smartypants <bunghol...@lycos.com> wrote:

>On Dec 19, 8:37=A0pm, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
>> In article <hl0ri5lsa7mqi48raen16d9m4dml96f...@4ax.com>,
>> John Fleming =A0<nos...@sprynet.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 19:34:49 -0600, while chained to a desk
>> >in the scriptorium pandora <pand...@peak.org> wrote:
>> >> $On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 19:24:48 -0700, John Fleming wrote:
>>
>> >> $> Given those costs, I'm not looking forward to doing mine any time s=
>oon.
>> >> $> Not unless I can figure out a way to get a lot of extra moola to pa=
>y for
>> >> $> it. =A0:(
>> >> $
>> >> $Well, we're retired now and we planned rather well. =A0It's just a
>> >> $matter of waiting for the checks to come in. =A0:-)
>>
>> ><grin>
>>
>> >> $> The tile walkin shower sounds like something I want. =A0The tub doe=

>sn't
>> >> $> have to be as fancy as the one you want.
>> >> $
>> >> $It's not really fancy; just convenient as one doesn't have
>> >> $to climb into it. =A0Good for oldies with bad knees like my
>> >> $hubby. =A0Our eldest son just bought a new house last year

>> >> $and it has the most marvelous walkin shower I've ever seen.
>> >> $It's big enough that NO shower door is needed. =A0I like that.

>>
>> >I've seen those walk in showers in a couple of dream homes
>> >now, and they are the coolest looking things. =A0But the ones
>> >I've seen have had the showerhead coming out of the wall. =A0I

>> >wonder what they'd be like with one of those overhead
>> >"rainshower" type shower heads.
>>
>> >> $> A lot of the projects I plan to do, I can do myself, and enjoy doin=

>g
>> >> $> them.
>> >> $
>> >> $We did too for the first 20 or so years of owning our
>> >> $*other* house. =A0After that, it became a chore.

>>
>> >When it becomes a chore, yes, it is time to find other ways
>> >to do things.
>>
>> >I'm still new enough at doing them that I find dong the
>> >projects fun and exciting.
>>
>> >> $> But the downside risks that come with me making mistakes in a bathr=
>oom
>> >> $> reno suggest it is something I want a professional to do. =A0(Of co=
>urse,
>> >> $> as my skills improve, I may see parts of the project I'd be happy d=
>oing
>> >> $> myself.
>> >> $
>> >> $Yep, there is that. =A0The more one does, the more one learns. =A0We;=

>re
>> >> $actually planning on installing fake wood floors in our two upstairs
>> >> $studies (I think it's called a floating floor.) =A0It's cheaper and
>> >> $easier to install than what we had put in downstairs. =A0Or so they s=
>ay.
>> >> $I'll let you know how it goes. =A0We've bought the flooring already;
>> >> $it's just a matter of doing the work. =A0Oh, and moving out the furni=
>ture
>> >> $upstairs of course. =A0Not an easy thing to do. =A0It will be worth i=

>t
>> >> $though, IMO, as we both have bad allergies and the carpet that is
>> >> $in there now is just too difficult to clean what with all the
>> >> $bookshelves. =A0
>>
>> >Sounds a bit like laminate flooring you have in mind. =A0My

>> >understanding is they work that way.
>>
>> >Over Christmas, there is a bedroom ceiling I plan to do.
>> >There is also some prep work I have to do on the walls in
>> >said bedroom, and if I get that done, I can look at painting
>> >the walls on the weekend of the Family Day holiday.
>>
>> >> $>> $Not going to happen for several years, if at all.
>>
>> >--
>>
>> >John Fleming
>> >Edmonton, Canada
>>
>> > =A0 =A0 Old MacDonald had a farm E-I-E-I-O
>> > =A0 =A0 And on that farm he had a genome E-I-E-I-O
>> > =A0 =A0 With a SNP SNP here and a SNP SNP there,
>> > =A0 =A0 Here a SNP, there a SNP, everywhere a SNP SNP
>> > =A0 =A0 Old MacDonald had a farm E-I-E-I-O

>>
>> Just remember Home Depot.
>> --
>
>
>Yep! Canada's premiere sex toy shop.
>

NAzi troll MSP is such a tool.

peachy ashie passion

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Oiy! Not just Canada!

John Fleming

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On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 22:01:40 -0500, while chained to a desk
in the scriptorium peachy ashie passion
<exquisi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> $Mr.Smartypants wrote:
> $> On Dec 19, 8:37 pm, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
> $>> In article <hl0ri5lsa7mqi48raen16d9m4dml96f...@4ax.com>,
> $>> John Fleming <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote:
> $>>> On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 19:34:49 -0600, while chained to a desk
> $>>> in the scriptorium pandora <pand...@peak.org> wrote:
> $>>>> $On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 19:24:48 -0700, John Fleming wrote:
> $>>>> $> Given those costs, I'm not looking forward to doing mine any time soon.
> $>>>> $> Not unless I can figure out a way to get a lot of extra moola to pay for
> $>>>> $> it. :(
> $>>>> $

> $>>>> $Well, we're retired now and we planned rather well. It's just a
> $>>>> $matter of waiting for the checks to come in. :-)
> $>>> <grin>
> $>>>> $> The tile walkin shower sounds like something I want. The tub doesn't
> $>>>> $> have to be as fancy as the one you want.

> $>>>> $
> $>>>> $It's not really fancy; just convenient as one doesn't have
> $>>>> $to climb into it. Good for oldies with bad knees like my
> $>>>> $hubby. Our eldest son just bought a new house last year
> $>>>> $and it has the most marvelous walkin shower I've ever seen.
> $>>>> $It's big enough that NO shower door is needed. I like that.
> $>>> I've seen those walk in showers in a couple of dream homes
> $>>> now, and they are the coolest looking things. But the ones
> $>>> I've seen have had the showerhead coming out of the wall. I
> $>>> wonder what they'd be like with one of those overhead
> $>>> "rainshower" type shower heads.
> $>>>> $> A lot of the projects I plan to do, I can do myself, and enjoy doing
> $>>>> $> them.
> $>>>> $

> $>>>> $We did too for the first 20 or so years of owning our
> $>>>> $*other* house. After that, it became a chore.
> $>>> When it becomes a chore, yes, it is time to find other ways
> $>>> to do things.
> $>>> I'm still new enough at doing them that I find dong the
> $>>> projects fun and exciting.
> $>>>> $> But the downside risks that come with me making mistakes in a bathroom
> $>>>> $> reno suggest it is something I want a professional to do. (Of course,
> $>>>> $> as my skills improve, I may see parts of the project I'd be happy doing
> $>>>> $> myself.
> $>>>> $

> $>>>> $Yep, there is that. The more one does, the more one learns. We;re
> $>>>> $actually planning on installing fake wood floors in our two upstairs
> $>>>> $studies (I think it's called a floating floor.) It's cheaper and
> $>>>> $easier to install than what we had put in downstairs. Or so they say.
> $>>>> $I'll let you know how it goes. We've bought the flooring already;
> $>>>> $it's just a matter of doing the work. Oh, and moving out the furniture
> $>>>> $upstairs of course. Not an easy thing to do. It will be worth it
> $>>>> $though, IMO, as we both have bad allergies and the carpet that is
> $>>>> $in there now is just too difficult to clean what with all the
> $>>>> $bookshelves.
> $>>> Sounds a bit like laminate flooring you have in mind. My
> $>>> understanding is they work that way.
> $>>> Over Christmas, there is a bedroom ceiling I plan to do.
> $>>> There is also some prep work I have to do on the walls in
> $>>> said bedroom, and if I get that done, I can look at painting
> $>>> the walls on the weekend of the Family Day holiday.
> $>>>> $>> $Not going to happen for several years, if at all.
> $>>> --
> $>>> John Fleming
> $>>> Edmonton, Canada
> $>>> Old MacDonald had a farm E-I-E-I-O
> $>>> And on that farm he had a genome E-I-E-I-O
> $>>> With a SNP SNP here and a SNP SNP there,
> $>>> Here a SNP, there a SNP, everywhere a SNP SNP
> $>>> Old MacDonald had a farm E-I-E-I-O
> $>> Just remember Home Depot.
> $>
> $> Yep! Canada's premiere sex toy shop.
> $
> $ Oiy! Not just Canada!

One of the biggest, and best, in North America.

The Doctor

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peachy ashie passion <exquisi...@hotmail.com> wrote:

LOL!

Cue Peter J Ross and his relevancy comments.

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