The Family Of Blood

[TB]

Great moments: The Doctor's girlfriend scoffing at the idea of a BLACK doctor!

The kid Lattimer communing with the fob watch.

The headmaster demanding to know what's going on, before he metes out punishment.

The great Scarecrow Massacre.

The alien occupied girl vaporizing the headmaster, and everyone retreating.

Lattimer showing the girl the watch, when tells the aliens everything they need to know.

The aliens scanning everyone for the fob watch.

The Doctor (John Smith) not wanting to return to being a Time Lord and thus giving up his Earth love.

Lattimer returning the fob watch, and the Doctor/John Smith angsting over having to give up his humanity to save the world from the Family of Blood.


The flash forwards of the human Doctor's life as a human.

The Doctor bringing the fob watch to the aliens, and setting their ship to explode.

The Doctor wrapping Dad in dwarf star alloy chain, dumping Mom in a black hole, trapping Sister in a mirror, and turning the narrator in a scarecrow. But what if Sister finds a way to escape from the wold's mirrors?

John Smith's girlfriend refusing to become the Doctor's Companion. She doesn't think that a relationship with such a long lived man would work out, since she's like a mayfly to him. Such considerations would seem to be part of why the Doctor doesn't want to get involved with Martha.

[The Doctor]

In article <c8c843dc-70f1-44a1...@googlegroups.com>,
TB <tsbr...@dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
>Great moments: The Doctor's girlfriend scoffing at the idea of a BLACK doct=

>or!
>
>The kid Lattimer communing with the fob watch.
>

>The headmaster demanding to know what's going on, before he metes out punis=

>hment.
>
>The great Scarecrow Massacre.
>
>The alien occupied girl vaporizing the headmaster, and everyone retreating.
>

>Lattimer showing the girl the watch, when tells the aliens everything they =

>need to know.
>
>The aliens scanning everyone for the fob watch.
>

>The Doctor (John Smith) not wanting to return to being a Time Lord and thus=

> giving up his Earth love.
>

>Lattimer returning the fob watch, and the Doctor/John Smith angsting over h=

>aving to give up his humanity to save the world from the Family of Blood.
>
>
>The flash forwards of the human Doctor's life as a human.
>

>The Doctor bringing the fob watch to the aliens, and setting their ship to =
>explode.
>
>The Doctor wrapping Dad in dwarf star alloy chain, dumping Mom in a black h=
>ole, trapping Sister in a mirror, and turning the narrator in a scarecrow. =

> But what if Sister finds a way to escape from the wold's mirrors?
>

>John Smith's girlfriend refusing to become the Doctor's Companion. She doe=
>sn't think that a relationship with such a long lived man would work out, s=
>ince she's like a mayfly to him. Such considerations would seem to be part=

> of why the Doctor doesn't want to get involved with Martha.

Some of the best drama, including a town under fire.
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[TB]

Why didn't the alien in the girl ever let go of her balloon, and thus free up her balloon hand?

[TB]

Solution to the Doctor's/John Smith's dilemma regarding his romance with Joan: After defeating the Family of Blood, use the Chameleon Arch to make himself human again, spend a lifetime with Joan, then revert to Time Lordiness and regenerate if necessary.

[The Doctor]

In article <f3a9b4f6-b6ec-4ab4...@googlegroups.com>,

TB <tsbr...@dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
>Solution to the Doctor's/John Smith's dilemma regarding his romance with Joan: After defeating the Family of Blood, use the Chameleon Arch to make himself human again, spend a lifetime with Joan, then revert to Time Lordiness and regenerate if necessary.

We saw the John Smith line of things.

And the Chameleon Arch is needed
to reintorduce the MAster.

[Timothy Bruening]

The Family of Blooders clearly have advanced temporal technology, since the Doctor was unable to evade them by TARDIS. How is it that they don't also possess life prolongation technology (They only live 3 months!).

[The Other Doctor]

"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
news:n8vik8$ck1$1...@ns2.nl2k.ab.ca...

> In article <f3a9b4f6-b6ec-4ab4...@googlegroups.com>,
> TB <tsbr...@dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
>>Solution to the Doctor's/John Smith's dilemma regarding his romance with
>>Joan: After defeating the Family of Blood, use the Chameleon Arch to make
>>himself human again, spend a lifetime with Joan, then revert to Time
>>Lordiness and regenerate if necessary.
>
> We saw the John Smith line of things.

What sort of things are in a John Smith line? Is a John Smith line straight?

> And the Chameleon Arch is needed
> to reintorduce the MAster.

No it's not.

[Timothy Bruening]

On Thursday, February 4, 2016 at 9:47:38 AM UTC-8, The Other Doctor wrote:
> "The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
> news:n8vik8$ck1$1...@ns2.nl2k.ab.ca...
> > In article <f3a9b4f6-b6ec-4ab4...@googlegroups.com>,
> > TB <tsbr...@dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
> >>Solution to the Doctor's/John Smith's dilemma regarding his romance with
> >>Joan: After defeating the Family of Blood, use the Chameleon Arch to make
> >>himself human again, spend a lifetime with Joan, then revert to Time
> >>Lordiness and regenerate if necessary.
> >
> > We saw the John Smith line of things.
>
> What sort of things are in a John Smith line? Is a John Smith line straight?

Do you suspect John Smith of being gay?

>
> > And the Chameleon Arch is needed
> > to reintorduce the MAster.
>
> No it's not.

Professor Yana had a fob watch just like that the Doctor used to store himself! Martha thinks that its the very same watch! (How would the Master have obtained the watch the Doctor gave to Tim Latimer?).

When Yana opens it, he becomes the Master!

[The Other Doctor]

"Timothy Bruening" <tsbr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Yes. I know. I've seen the story.

[The Doctor]

In article <Y8Msy.680662$AB2.5...@fx39.am4>,

Look at the season again.

[The Doctor]

In article <96662184-dfef-496a...@googlegroups.com>,

10/10 TB.

[The Other Doctor]

"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message

news:n90iiv$bfj$1...@ns2.nl2k.ab.ca...

> In article <Y8Msy.680662$AB2.5...@fx39.am4>,
> The Other Doctor <stephen.wils...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>
>>"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
>>news:n8vik8$ck1$1...@ns2.nl2k.ab.ca...
>>> In article <f3a9b4f6-b6ec-4ab4...@googlegroups.com>,
>>> TB <tsbr...@dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
>>>>Solution to the Doctor's/John Smith's dilemma regarding his romance with
>>>>Joan: After defeating the Family of Blood, use the Chameleon Arch to
>>>>make
>>>>himself human again, spend a lifetime with Joan, then revert to Time
>>>>Lordiness and regenerate if necessary.
>>>
>>> We saw the John Smith line of things.
>>
>>What sort of things are in a John Smith line? Is a John Smith line
>>straight?
>>
>>> And the Chameleon Arch is needed
>>> to reintorduce the MAster.
>>
>>No it's not.
>>
>>
>
> Look at the season again.

And then what?

[The Doctor]

In article <9hQsy.716221$a_7.7...@fx43.am4>,

The Other Doctor <stephen.wils...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
>news:n90iiv$bfj$1...@ns2.nl2k.ab.ca...
>> In article <Y8Msy.680662$AB2.5...@fx39.am4>,
>> The Other Doctor <stephen.wils...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
>>>news:n8vik8$ck1$1...@ns2.nl2k.ab.ca...
>>>> In article <f3a9b4f6-b6ec-4ab4...@googlegroups.com>,
>>>> TB <tsbr...@dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
>>>>>Solution to the Doctor's/John Smith's dilemma regarding his romance with
>>>>>Joan: After defeating the Family of Blood, use the Chameleon Arch to
>>>>>make
>>>>>himself human again, spend a lifetime with Joan, then revert to Time
>>>>>Lordiness and regenerate if necessary.
>>>>
>>>> We saw the John Smith line of things.
>>>
>>>What sort of things are in a John Smith line? Is a John Smith line
>>>straight?
>>>
>>>> And the Chameleon Arch is needed
>>>> to reintorduce the MAster.
>>>
>>>No it's not.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Look at the season again.
>
>And then what?
>
>

Then you should understand RTD's use of literary devices.

[The Other Doctor]

"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message

news:n90lkv$e2q$1...@ns2.nl2k.ab.ca...

No I won't. I'll understand his use of literary devices by reading one of
his books. What literary devices of RTD do you understand by watching the
season again?

[The Doctor]

In article <K%Qsy.712612$AB2.3...@fx39.am4>,

The fob watch.

[TB]

What do you call the TV episode equivalent of a literary device?

[The Other Doctor]

"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message

news:n90mlp$eub$1...@ns2.nl2k.ab.ca...

Sorry - not following you at all. In what way does the fob watch demonstrate
RTD's literary devices?

[The Doctor]

In article <5c919270-2ea8-40f0...@googlegroups.com>,

A prop.

[The Doctor]

In article <xdRsy.618942$Yh.1...@fx36.am4>,

Then look carefully.

[The Last Doctor]

A literary device. Some can work better on TV than in books - asides and
flashbacks, for example. The fob watch, however, is a McGuffin, not a
literary device. It isn't an allusion or a metaphor - it might have been a
Chekhov's gun, in season terms, but it's one that was already fired in
Family of Blood. It would only have been a true Chekhov's gun if its
purpose had been exposited but the watch not used prior to "Utopia".

--
"I am and always will be the optimist.
The hoper of far-flung hopes and the dreamer of improbable dreams."

[The Other Doctor]

"TB" <tsbr...@dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote in message
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A literary device is a language technique used by writers to create clear,
interesting and memorable text. It is most readily apparent in a novel but
also applies to scenes on television and in films.

Yads got 2 things wrong. First off is that a fob is not a literary device.
It's a MacGuffin. Second is that the story was not written by RTD. It was
written by Paul Cornell, who himself would have drawn inspiration from other
New Adventure authors such as Lawrence Miles, and all of whom would have
been influenced by other fiction.

[The Other Doctor]

"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message

news:n90qnn$ibh$1...@ns2.nl2k.ab.ca...

>>
>>What do you call the TV episode equivalent of a literary device?
>
>
> A prop.

Acyrologia - an incorrect use of words, particulately replacing one word
with another word that sounds similar but has a diffident meaning, possibly
fuelled by a deep-seeded desire to sound more educated, witch results in an
attempt to pawn off an incorrect word in place of a correct one. In
academia, such flaunting of common social morays is seen as almost sorted
and might result in the offender becoming a piranha, in the Monday world,
after all is set and done, such a miner era will often leave normal people
unphased. This is just as well sense people of that elk are unlikely to tow
the line irregardless of any attempt to better educate them. A small
percentage, however, suffer from severe acyrologiaphobia, and it is their
upmost desire to see English used properly. Exposure may cause them symptoms
that may resemble post-dramatic stress disorder and, eventually, descend
into whole-scale outrage as they go star-craving mad. Eventually, they will
succumb to the stings and arrows of such a barrage, and suffer a complete
metal breakdown, leaving them curled up in the feeble position.

[The Doctor]

The Other Doctor <stephen.wils...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

: "TB" <tsbr...@dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote in message

But RTD used the fob twice as a literary device for stroing TimeLord entites
while the being posed as a human.

[The Last Doctor]

That's not what "literary device " means Dave. One thing you can be sure is
not a literary device is an actual device.

[The Other Doctor]

"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message

news:n92g1f$j32$1...@ns2.nl2k.ab.ca...

>
> : A literary device is a language technique used by writers to create
> clear,
> : interesting and memorable text. It is most readily apparent in a novel
> but
> : also applies to scenes on television and in films.
>
> : Yads got 2 things wrong. First off is that a fob is not a literary
> device.
> : It's a MacGuffin. Second is that the story was not written by RTD. It
> was
> : written by Paul Cornell, who himself would have drawn inspiration from
> other
> : New Adventure authors such as Lawrence Miles, and all of whom would have
> : been influenced by other fiction.
>
> But RTD used the fob twice as a literary device for stroing TimeLord
> entites
> while the being posed as a human.

I can't decipher that at all. You're pressing keys at random.

[The Doctor]

In article <dhk31t...@mid.individual.net>,

Excuse while I say Say what?!

>--
>"I am and always will be the optimist.
>The hoper of far-flung hopes and the dreamer of improbable dreams."

[The Doctor]

In article <jN5ty.554495$pB6.4...@fx41.am4>,

The Other Doctor <stephen.wils...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>

As you saying Say what?!

[The Other Doctor]

"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message

news:n932vr$t3t$1...@ns2.nl2k.ab.ca...

> In article <jN5ty.554495$pB6.4...@fx41.am4>,
> The Other Doctor <stephen.wils...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>
>>"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
>>news:n92g1f$j32$1...@ns2.nl2k.ab.ca...
>>>
>>> : A literary device is a language technique used by writers to create
>>> clear,
>>> : interesting and memorable text. It is most readily apparent in a novel
>>> but
>>> : also applies to scenes on television and in films.
>>>
>>> : Yads got 2 things wrong. First off is that a fob is not a literary
>>> device.
>>> : It's a MacGuffin. Second is that the story was not written by RTD. It
>>> was
>>> : written by Paul Cornell, who himself would have drawn inspiration from
>>> other
>>> : New Adventure authors such as Lawrence Miles, and all of whom would
>>> have
>>> : been influenced by other fiction.
>>>
>>> But RTD used the fob twice as a literary device for stroing TimeLord
>>> entites
>>> while the being posed as a human.
>>
>>I can't decipher that at all. You're pressing keys at random.
>>
>>
>
> As you saying Say what?!

Huh?

[The Last Doctor]

A "literary device" is a trick of language employed by a writer. Allusions,
asides, footnotes, allegories, flashbacks, cliffhangers, use of exotic
points of view - these are literary devices. Some feed on well into visual
media, others don't. Still others have originated in TV and movies and now
are found in books - such as the jump cut (where a character has a line of
dialogue and then the scene switches and another character, having a
different conversation, seems to reply to the first).

Literary devices are NOT OBJECTS. They are an arty way of conveying ideas.
They are not guns, or fob watches, or TARDISes. These are not literary
devices. They are actual devices.

[TB]

Why couldn't the Doctor just fly the TARDIS continuously fo 3 months until the Family of Blood died?

[TB]

Say Hey!

[The Other Doctor]

"TB" <tsbr...@dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote in message

news:7a96fa5b-02e0-411e...@googlegroups.com...

Hey Ho.

[The Doctor]

In article <B4oty.661916$Yh.1...@fx36.am4>,

LOL @ SW!

[The Doctor]

In article <dhmi3q...@mid.individual.net>,

TARDIS as a literary device? Now you opened up a can of worms.

[The Doctor]

In article <7a96fa5b-02e0-411e...@googlegroups.com>,

Oi!

[Pudentame]

Norm Crosby, allow me to introduce Mrs Malaprop.

[The Other Doctor]

"Pudentame" <no....@no.where.invalid> wrote in message
news:r33dbb1mo1o16l5jm...@4ax.com...

Not someone I'm really familiar with - not sure if his shows have ever been
broadcast in the UK.

[The Doctor]

In article <X9Lty.507547$ey.4...@fx45.am4>,

Never heard of Mrs. Malaprop?

[TB]

Nope. Which Doctor Who episodes has she appeared in?:)

[The Doctor]

In article <69a1dac0-2288-4da3...@googlegroups.com>,

Well you have to google that.

[Daniel47]

On 9/02/2016 3:35 AM, The Doctor wrote:
> In article <69a1dac0-2288-4da3...@googlegroups.com>,
> TB <tsbr...@dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
>> On Sunday, February 7, 2016 at 2:15:08 PM UTC-8, The Doctor wrote:
>>> In article <X9Lty.507547$ey.4...@fx45.am4>,
>>> The Other Doctor <stephen.wils...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Pudentame" <no....@no.where.invalid> wrote in message
>>>> news:r33dbb1mo1o16l5jm...@4ax.com...

<Snip>

>>>>> Norm Crosby, allow me to introduce Mrs Malaprop.
>>>>
>>>> Not someone I'm really familiar with - not sure if his shows have ever been
>>>> broadcast in the UK.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Never heard of Mrs. Malaprop?
>>
>> Nope. Which Doctor Who episodes has she appeared in?:)
>
> Well you have to google that.
>

Or continue to dis-believe just about anything the doctor posts here!

Daniel

[The Other Doctor]

"Daniel47" <Dani...@eternal-september.org> wrote in message
news:n9cdr1$sgf$5...@dont-email.me...

Reasonable advice...

[TB]

Why does the Blooder mascarading as the little girl haul a red balloon with her all episode? Shouldn't she let it go to free up her balloon hand?

[TB]

At the end, why can't the just turn back into the human John Smith for a lifetime, and have Martha hop forwards in time in the TARDIS a few decades to change him back?

[TB]

Tim Lattimer has seen the future. Does that mean that he saw the rise of Hitler, so will try to warn the British public about him? Will Tim play any role in the rise of Churchill?

[The Other Doctor]

"TB" <tsbr...@dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote in message

news:09c55a6a-157b-4bf5...@googlegroups.com...

> Tim Lattimer has seen the future. Does that mean that he saw the rise of
> Hitler, so will try to warn the British public about him? Will Tim play
> any role in the rise of Churchill?

No and no.

[TB]

Why did the alien in the girl hang onto the red balloon all episode?

[The Doctor]

In article <cc3597f3-0347-4a2a...@googlegroups.com>,

TB <tsbr...@dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
>Why did the alien in the girl hang onto the red balloon all episode?

All air?

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[Tim Bruening]

At the end, the Doctor wraps the father of the Family of Blood in Dwarf Star Alloy. The son indicates that this is part of the Doctor's plan to punish all Family members with immortality. How do Dwarf Star Alloy chains make the father immortal?

The Doctor dumps Mom into a black hole. How does that make her immortal? From her point of view, she would die in seconds!

[Tim Bruening]

The Doctor put the balloon girl in all the mirrors. Is that in ALL mirrors all over the universe, or just Earth;s mirrors?

Is the boy in all scarecrows universe-wide or just Earth's scarecrows?

[The Doctor]

In article <bba209a8-3c13-4ba4...@googlegroups.com>,

He imprisoned them all.

[Tim Bruening]

On Monday, October 24, 2016 at 3:43:00 PM UTC-7, The Doctor wrote:
> In article <bba209a8-3c13-4ba4...@googlegroups.com>,
> Tim Bruening <tsbr...@dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
> >The Doctor put the balloon girl in all the mirrors. Is that in ALL
> >mirrors all over the universe, or just Earth;s mirrors?
> >
> >Is the boy in all scarecrows universe-wide or just Earth's scarecrows?
>
> He imprisoned them all.

How big is the prison?

[solar penguin]

On Tuesday, 11 October 2016 00:09:25 UTC+1, Tim Bruening wrote:

>
> The Doctor dumps Mom into a black hole. How does that make her immortal?
> From her point of view, she would die in seconds!

Real world answer:
From an observer's point of view she would be immortal, since those seconds
would stretch for an eternity.

Whoniverse answer:
Omega didn't die in seconds.

[solar penguin]

On Monday, 24 October 2016 19:17:28 UTC+1, Tim Bruening wrote:

> The Doctor put the balloon girl in all the mirrors. Is that in ALL mirrors
> all over the universe, or just Earth;s mirrors?

Yes.

>
> Is the boy in all scarecrows universe-wide or just Earth's scarecrows?

Yes.

[The Doctor]

In article <8d244153-05b1-4bf1...@googlegroups.com>,

Omega is not dead AFAWK.

[Tim Bruening]

Tim Lattimir had snatched the Doctor's fob watch, which gave him a future vision of him looking at that watch on a battlefield and dodging an incoming shell. The Doctor lets Tim keep the watch after he (the Doctor) is restored to normal. Later during WWI, Tim looks at the watch, states the time, and dodges the shell. Was that the ONLY time Tim's life was in danger during the entire war?

[Tim Bruening]

I am typing about the Family o Blood mother, not about Omega.

[Tim Bruening]

Yes to which questions?

[Tim Bruening]

How did wrapping the Dad in Dwarf Star Alloy chains make him immortal?

And why wasn't he crushed by the weight?

[The Doctor]

In article <731897b5-07a7-422b...@googlegroups.com>,

Maybe more.

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[The Doctor]

In article <8e88a850-16b9-4a0e...@googlegroups.com>,

He is making a legit comparison.

[The Doctor]

In article <ebde4a78-428c-42d4...@googlegroups.com>,

That is obvious to me.

[The Doctor]

In article <60215a9a-e92b-4003...@googlegroups.com>,

Tim Bruening <tsbr...@dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
>How did wrapping the Dad in Dwarf Star Alloy chains make him immortal?
>
>And why wasn't he crushed by the weight?

Let's say his going duly restrained.

[Tim Bruening]

On Thursday, December 1, 2016 at 3:14:40 PM UTC-8, The Doctor wrote:
> In article <8e88a850-16b9-4a0e...@googlegroups.com>,
> Tim Bruening <tsbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Monday, October 24, 2016 at 10:53:40 PM UTC-7, solar penguin wrote:
> >> On Tuesday, 11 October 2016 00:09:25 UTC+1, Tim Bruening wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > The Doctor dumps Mom into a black hole. How does that make her immortal?
> >> > From her point of view, she would die in seconds!
> >>
> >> Real world answer:
> >> From an observer's point of view she would be immortal, since those seconds
> >> would stretch for an eternity.
> >>
> >> Whoniverse answer:
> >> Omega didn't die in seconds.
> >
> >I am typing about the Family o Blood mother, not about Omega.
>
> He is making a legit comparison.

So in poor Omega personal timeline, he had to suffer the pain of being torn apart by a black hole for a longish period?

[The Doctor]

In article <d1d5e639-8ce5-4274...@googlegroups.com>,

He became anti-matter.

[Tim Bruening]

On Thursday, December 1, 2016 at 6:47:47 PM UTC-8, The Doctor wrote:
> In article <d1d5e639-8ce5-4274...@googlegroups.com>,
> Tim Bruening <tsbr...@dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
> >On Thursday, December 1, 2016 at 3:14:40 PM UTC-8, The Doctor wrote:
> >> In article <8e88a850-16b9-4a0e...@googlegroups.com>,
> >> Tim Bruening <tsbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >On Monday, October 24, 2016 at 10:53:40 PM UTC-7, solar penguin wrote:
> >> >> On Tuesday, 11 October 2016 00:09:25 UTC+1, Tim Bruening wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The Doctor dumps Mom into a black hole. How does that make her immortal?
> >> >> > From her point of view, she would die in seconds!
> >> >>
> >> >> Real world answer:
> >> >> From an observer's point of view she would be immortal, since those seconds
> >> >> would stretch for an eternity.
> >> >>
> >> >> Whoniverse answer:
> >> >> Omega didn't die in seconds.
> >> >
> >> >I am typing about the Family o Blood mother, not about Omega.
> >>
> >> He is making a legit comparison.
> >
> >So in poor Omega personal timeline, he had to suffer the pain of being torn apart by a black
> >hole for a longish period?
>
> He became anti-matter.

Are you implying that the Family of Blood Mom ALSO became anti-matter?

[The Doctor]

In article <301eefcb-afdb-4b16...@googlegroups.com>,

Possible.

[Daniel60]

On 2/12/2016 10:15 AM, The Doctor wrote:
> In article <ebde4a78-428c-42d4...@googlegroups.com>,
> Tim Bruening <tsbr...@dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
>> On Monday, October 24, 2016 at 10:54:56 PM UTC-7, solar penguin wrote:
>>> On Monday, 24 October 2016 19:17:28 UTC+1, Tim Bruening wrote:
>>>
>>>> The Doctor put the balloon girl in all the mirrors. Is that in ALL mirrors
>>>> all over the universe, or just Earth;s mirrors?
>>>
>>> Yes.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Is the boy in all scarecrows universe-wide or just Earth's scarecrows?
>>>
>>> Yes.
>>
>> Yes to which questions?
>
> That is obvious to me.
>

and only to you doctor!

Tim's question's had two possible answers and SP just answered "Yes",
not indicating which of the two possibilities is correct.

Daniel

[Daniel60]

and possible *garbage* , doctor.

Daniel

[The Doctor]

In article <o20tad$jhe$4...@dont-email.me>,

What happened to Omega?

[The Doctor]

In article <o20t6d$jhe$3...@dont-email.me>,

The or is not exclusive.

[Pudentame]

Actually, "Yes" is the correct answer.

Until you collapse the wave front by opening the box and letting the
cat out ... or not ... both states are equally valid.

[The Doctor]

In article <s7494ch4bvmbajpr9...@4ax.com>,

Shrodinger I presume.

[Tim Bruening]

I am not asking about cats held in boxes by sadistic scientists. I am asking about the boy in the scarecrows and the girl in the mirrors.

[The Doctor]

In article <635eccbd-3c6f-49b4...@googlegroups.com>,

Again the answer is yes similar to Schrodinger's cat.

[Daniel60]

On 5/12/2016 12:06 AM, The Doctor wrote:
> In article <o20t6d$jhe$3...@dont-email.me>,
> Daniel60 <Dani...@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>> On 2/12/2016 10:15 AM, The Doctor wrote:
>>> In article <ebde4a78-428c-42d4...@googlegroups.com>,
>>> Tim Bruening <tsbr...@dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
>>>> On Monday, October 24, 2016 at 10:54:56 PM UTC-7, solar penguin wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, 24 October 2016 19:17:28 UTC+1, Tim Bruening wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The Doctor put the balloon girl in all the mirrors. Is that in ALL mirrors
>>>>>> all over the universe, or just Earth;s mirrors?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is the boy in all scarecrows universe-wide or just Earth's scarecrows?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes.
>>>>
>>>> Yes to which questions?
>>>
>>> That is obvious to me.
>>>
>> and only to you doctor!
>>
>> Tim's question's had two possible answers and SP just answered "Yes",
>> not indicating which of the two possibilities is correct.
>

> The or is not exclusive.
>

The "or" *is* exclusive! You either have or clue *or* you don't have a
clue! Cannot be both!

Daniel

[Daniel60]

On 5/12/2016 9:00 AM, Pudentame wrote:
> On Sun, 4 Dec 2016 22:05:49 +1100, Daniel60
> <Dani...@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>
>> On 2/12/2016 10:15 AM, The Doctor wrote:
>>> In article <ebde4a78-428c-42d4...@googlegroups.com>,
>>> Tim Bruening <tsbr...@dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
>>>> On Monday, October 24, 2016 at 10:54:56 PM UTC-7, solar penguin wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, 24 October 2016 19:17:28 UTC+1, Tim Bruening wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The Doctor put the balloon girl in all the mirrors. Is that in ALL mirrors
>>>>>> all over the universe, or just Earth;s mirrors?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is the boy in all scarecrows universe-wide or just Earth's scarecrows?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes.
>>>>
>>>> Yes to which questions?
>>>
>>> That is obvious to me.
>>>
>> and only to you doctor!
>>
>> Tim's question's had two possible answers and SP just answered "Yes",
>> not indicating which of the two possibilities is correct.
>

> Actually, "Yes" is the correct answer.
>
> Until you collapse the wave front by opening the box and letting the
> cat out ... or not ... both states are equally valid.
>

Maybe, in general, but in *this* specific instance, Tim gave two
possibilities ....

1. Is the boy in all scarecrows universe-wide,

or

2. (Is the boy in) just Earth's scarecrows.

Now, admittedly Point 2 is a sub-set of Point 1 (so Point 1 includes
Point 2) but if the boy was only in scarecrows *just* on Earth (Point 2
correct), Point 1 is not correct!

So "Yes" *is not* the correct answer.

Daniel

[Daniel60]

On 6/12/2016 2:27 AM, The Doctor wrote:
> In article <635eccbd-3c6f-49b4...@googlegroups.com>,
> Tim Bruening <tsbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 2:00:06 PM UTC-8, Pudentame wrote:
>>> On Sun, 4 Dec 2016 22:05:49 +1100, Daniel60
>>> <Dani...@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2/12/2016 10:15 AM, The Doctor wrote:
>>>>> In article <ebde4a78-428c-42d4...@googlegroups.com>,
>>>>> Tim Bruening <tsbr...@dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
>>>>>> On Monday, October 24, 2016 at 10:54:56 PM UTC-7, solar penguin wrote:
>>>>>>> On Monday, 24 October 2016 19:17:28 UTC+1, Tim Bruening wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Doctor put the balloon girl in all the mirrors. Is that in
>> ALL mirrors
>>>>>>>> all over the universe, or just Earth;s mirrors?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is the boy in all scarecrows universe-wide or just Earth's scarecrows?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes to which questions?
>>>>>
>>>>> That is obvious to me.
>>>>>
>>>> and only to you doctor!
>>>>
>>>> Tim's question's had two possible answers and SP just answered "Yes",
>>>> not indicating which of the two possibilities is correct.
>>>

>>> Actually, "Yes" is the correct answer.
>>>
>>> Until you collapse the wave front by opening the box and letting the
>>> cat out ... or not ... both states are equally valid.
>>
>> I am not asking about cats held in boxes by sadistic scientists. I am
>> asking about the boy in the scarecrows and the girl in the mirrors.
>
> Again the answer is yes similar to Schrodinger's cat.
>

No, the answer is not necessarily "yes" as I've explained in another reply.

Daniel

[Daniel60]

> What happened to Omega?
>
I don't know and could care less, doctor! Unless Omega has something to
do with the Blood Mum becoming anti-matter

Daniel

[The Doctor]

In article <o263eu$uln$3...@dont-email.me>,

He became anti-matter in a slow process.

[The Doctor]

In article <o262j7$s7k$2...@dont-email.me>,

Try again.

REcall X o Y is 1 not 0.

[The Doctor]

In article <o26364$uln$1...@dont-email.me>,

Looks like you trapped yourself.

[Tim Bruening]

How did he survive the process?

[The Doctor]

In article <f0894c11-561e-4b87...@googlegroups.com>,

He willed to survive.

[Tim Bruening]

How can mere will suppress matter/anti-matter reactions?

[The Doctor]

In article <fa219f5b-04ea-4e8f...@googlegroups.com>,

Ask Omega.

[Tim Bruening]

How was the Family of Blood able to track the Doctor through time and space, and follow him through time and space?

[Tim Bruening]

How do I contact him?

[The Doctor]

In article <ffff1969-0b08-41c7...@googlegroups.com>,

Tim Bruening <tsbr...@dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
>How was the Family of Blood able to track the Doctor through time and
>space, and follow him through time and space?

They hunt by blood scent.

[The Doctor]

In article <f3768365-6752-4c7b...@googlegroups.com>,

Find out where he is now.

[Tim Bruening]

On Wednesday, December 7, 2016 at 7:12:21 AM UTC-8, The Doctor wrote:
> In article <ffff1969-0b08-41c7...@googlegroups.com>,
> Tim Bruening <tsbr...@dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
> >How was the Family of Blood able to track the Doctor through time and
> >space, and follow him through time and space?
>
> They hunt by blood scent.

How can blood scent be smelled in the vacuum of outer space, let alone in the Time Vortex?

How can the Blooders even sniff in the vacuum of space without suffocating?

[Tim Bruening]

I was hoping that you knew, since you suggested contacting him.

[The Doctor]

In article <fc810736-2919-4058...@googlegroups.com>,

These creatures are not human to start with.

[The Doctor]

In article <1d3b4051-02fd-49f5...@googlegroups.com>,

Well he was dispatch by the doctor in Arc of Infinity.

[Tim Bruening]

On Wednesday, December 7, 2016 at 2:30:22 PM UTC-8, The Doctor wrote:
> In article <fc810736-2919-4058...@googlegroups.com>,
> Tim Bruening <tsbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Wednesday, December 7, 2016 at 7:12:21 AM UTC-8, The Doctor wrote:
> >> In article <ffff1969-0b08-41c7...@googlegroups.com>,
> >> Tim Bruening <tsbr...@dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
> >> >How was the Family of Blood able to track the Doctor through time and
> >> >space, and follow him through time and space?
> >>
> >> They hunt by blood scent.
> >
> >How can blood scent be smelled in the vacuum of outer space, let alone
> >in the Time Vortex?
> >
> >How can the Blooders even sniff in the vacuum of space without suffocating?
>
> These creatures are not human to start with.

Human or not human, how could the Blooders sniff anything in the vacuum of space?

[The Doctor]

In article <33f2343c-1b41-499c...@googlegroups.com>,

Tim Bruening <tsbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Wednesday, December 7, 2016 at 2:30:22 PM UTC-8, The Doctor wrote:
>> In article <fc810736-2919-4058...@googlegroups.com>,
>> Tim Bruening <tsbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Wednesday, December 7, 2016 at 7:12:21 AM UTC-8, The Doctor wrote:
>> >> In article <ffff1969-0b08-41c7...@googlegroups.com>,
>> >> Tim Bruening <tsbr...@dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
>> >> >How was the Family of Blood able to track the Doctor through time and
>> >> >space, and follow him through time and space?
>> >>
>> >> They hunt by blood scent.
>> >
>> >How can blood scent be smelled in the vacuum of outer space, let alone
>> >in the Time Vortex?
>> >
>> >How can the Blooders even sniff in the vacuum of space without suffocating?
>>
>> These creatures are not human to start with.
>
>Human or not human, how could the Blooders sniff anything in the vacuum
>of space?

They hunt.

[Tim Bruening]

On Wednesday, December 7, 2016 at 4:36:25 PM UTC-8, The Doctor wrote:
> In article <33f2343c-1b41-499c...@googlegroups.com>,
> Tim Bruening <tsbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Wednesday, December 7, 2016 at 2:30:22 PM UTC-8, The Doctor wrote:
> >> In article <fc810736-2919-4058...@googlegroups.com>,
> >> Tim Bruening <tsbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >On Wednesday, December 7, 2016 at 7:12:21 AM UTC-8, The Doctor wrote:
> >> >> In article <ffff1969-0b08-41c7...@googlegroups.com>,
> >> >> Tim Bruening <tsbr...@dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
> >> >> >How was the Family of Blood able to track the Doctor through time and
> >> >> >space, and follow him through time and space?
> >> >>
> >> >> They hunt by blood scent.
> >> >
> >> >How can blood scent be smelled in the vacuum of outer space, let alone
> >> >in the Time Vortex?
> >> >
> >> >How can the Blooders even sniff in the vacuum of space without suffocating?
> >>
> >> These creatures are not human to start with.
> >
> >Human or not human, how could the Blooders sniff anything in the vacuum
> >of space?
>
> They hunt.

But how can they smell ANYTHING without any air to carry the scent molecules?

[Daniel60]

> Try again.
>
> REcall X o Y is 1 not 0.
>

Try in English words, doctor.

But at least your reply gives me a chance to correct my previous
response ..... The "or" *is* exclusive! You either have a clue *or* you

[Daniel60]

> Looks like you trapped yourself.
>

Not me, doctor! I'm still waiting for Solar Penguin to answer!!

Daniel

[Daniel60]

> He became anti-matter in a slow process.
>

And so how is this connected to the Family of Blood, doctor?? I'm
guessing *NOT* !!

Daniel