Classic Who

[MDS]

Today I watched The War Machines and Image of the Fendahl, and
afterwards I again felt blessed to have been a long-time fan of the
classic series before the revived series started. People who dismiss
classic Who and refuse to watch it are really missing out on some great
stuff. Then again, perhaps these are the same kinds of people who just
loved watching Jersey Shore.


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MDS (Mister Doctor Sir)

[The Doctor]

Well I got most of my DW getting converting from VHS to DVD.
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[Brian]

The stories and in most cases the acting was better in the classic series.
I'm pleased that they modernise some of the old special effects when they
release the classic doctor who on DVD.
The story An Unearthly Child' (first Doctor Who story) is one of my
favourite. Love that tension inside the Tardis. The full sound effect when
the Tardis travels is great.


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Regards Brian

[MDS]

Brian wrote:
>
> MDS <M...@RADW.USENET> wrote:
> > Today I watched The War Machines and Image of the Fendahl, and
> > afterwards I again felt blessed to have been a long-time fan of the
> > classic series before the revived series started. People who dismiss
> > classic Who and refuse to watch it are really missing out on some great
> > stuff. Then again, perhaps these are the same kinds of people who just
> > loved watching Jersey Shore.
> >
>
> The stories and in most cases the acting was better in the classic series.

I don't really agree with that. The acting in both classic and revived
has been very good for the most part, save for the McCoy years.

> I'm pleased that they modernise some of the old special effects when they
> release the classic doctor who on DVD.

I definitely agree with this. I bought Day of the Daleks and watched
the updated version first. Now it's the only version I will watch.

> The story An Unearthly Child' (first Doctor Who story) is one of my
> favourite. Love that tension inside the Tardis. The full sound effect when
> the Tardis travels is great.

I'm not fond of episodes 2-4, but episode one, An Unearthly Child, is
fantastic and still stands up fifty years later. All new fans should
watch at least that episode to see how it all started.

[powrwrap]

I've recently watched (in the last couple of months) Caves of Androzanni and Hand of Fear. Caves was as good as I remember it, maybe better, whereas HoF was slightly disappointing, but Sarah Jane's farewell scene was as touching as usual.

I also watched Empty Child/Doctor Dances and enjoyed it a lot, probably more than my first viewing. On the other hand a re-watch of Human Nature/Family of Blood was a letdown.

I will say based on Human Nature/Family of Blood that Tennant is the best actor to portray the Doctor. He shows the full range of emotions and personality in those episodes.

[The Doctor]

In article <a5ed94e4-7d88-4dc2...@googlegroups.com>,

All right MDS does Smith remind you of Tennant?

[Brian]

I agree that Tennant is a good actor. i've seen him act in other BBC
productions.

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Regards Brian

[MDS]

powrwrap wrote:
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> On Sunday, September 30, 2012 7:06:05 PM UTC-5, MDS wrote:
> > Today I watched The War Machines and Image of the Fendahl, and
> >
> > afterwards I again felt blessed to have been a long-time fan of the
> >
> > classic series before the revived series started. People who dismiss
> >
> > classic Who and refuse to watch it are really missing out on some great
> >
> > stuff. Then again, perhaps these are the same kinds of people who just
> >
> > loved watching Jersey Shore.
> >
>
> I've recently watched (in the last couple of months) Caves of Androzanni and Hand of Fear. Caves was as good as I remember it, maybe better, whereas HoF was slightly disappointing, but Sarah Jane's farewell scene was as touching as usual.

I'm in agreement with you about both. Hand of Fear was just okay for
me, with Sarah's exit being the high point.

>
> I also watched Empty Child/Doctor Dances and enjoyed it a lot, probably more than my first viewing. On the other hand a re-watch of Human Nature/Family of Blood was a letdown.

I don't agree about Human Nature/The Family of Blood. I've always
enjoyed watching it. Why was it a letdown for you?

>
> I will say based on Human Nature/Family of Blood that Tennant is the best actor to portray the Doctor. He shows the full range of emotions and personality in those episodes.

Agreed. I believe that in Tennant one can see a little of every Doctor
who came before him, and he was the only one who could do that.

[MDS]

An tSin Gorm wrote:
>
> In article <a5ed94e4-7d88-4dc2...@googlegroups.com>,
> powrwrap <powr...@aol.com> wrote:
>

> > I also watched Empty Child/Doctor Dances and enjoyed it a lot, probably more
> > than my first viewing. On the other hand a re-watch of Human Nature/Family of
> > Blood was a letdown.
>

> After years of mayhem and death, I enjoyed one episode that ends with everybody
> lives. Not only do they live, but they are healed of past injuries like missing
> legs. It's nice to have a happy ending once in a while.
>
> --


The Doctor Dances

[jack...@bright.net]

MDS wrote:

>Brian wrote:
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>> MDS <M...@RADW.USENET> wrote:
>> > Today I watched The War Machines and Image of the Fendahl, and
>> > afterwards I again felt blessed to have been a long-time fan of the
>> > classic series before the revived series started. People who dismiss
>> > classic Who and refuse to watch it are really missing out on some great
>> > stuff. Then again, perhaps these are the same kinds of people who just
>> > loved watching Jersey Shore.

Blessed. It gave me more than twenty-five years of enjoyment before
the revival started. Paradoxically, I think it was easier for me to
catch, and in more sequential order, relying on various broadcasters
than it would be if I now went by DVDs.

>> The stories and in most cases the acting was better in the classic series.
>
>
>I don't really agree with that. The acting in both classic and revived
>has been very good for the most part, save for the McCoy years.

... and the writing could drag a bit, alternating with odd attempts at
action. I'd put the chase scene in "Planet of Spiders" up against
anything Agamemnon calls "prancing around" for supurfluosness.

>> I'm pleased that they modernise some of the old special effects when they
>> release the classic doctor who on DVD.
>
>
>I definitely agree with this. I bought Day of the Daleks and watched
>the updated version first. Now it's the only version I will watch.

It was certainly needed for the aura in "Mawdryn Undead", and even
where it isn't really necessary, I like that it shows the love.

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-Jack

[powrwrap]

> (unknown) wrote:

> > MDS wrote:

> >I definitely agree with this. I bought Day of the Daleks and watched
> >the updated version first. Now it's the only version I will watch.



> It was certainly needed for the aura in "Mawdryn Undead", and even
> where it isn't really necessary, I like that it shows the love.

REcall the Snake in kinda.

(posting in the style of radw's The Doctor)

[MDS]

LOL!

[The Doctor]

Better then sounding like the kooky PJR.

[Fett]

Well said. And they would probably watch it say something like "this is so stupid. Look how cheap it was. Where the romance and action?"

[MDS]

I thought Hartnell's Doctor putting down that thing Cameca (or however
you spell her name) in the temple and then shoving it into his pocket
before leaving was romantic. Not tear-jerking romantic, mind you, but
it was nice to see him do it.

[Fett]

There's plenty of subtle moments like that. However, the new instant gratification viewers just wouldn't appreciate it I think.

[MDS]

I think you're right. What I liked about the final scenes of The Green
Death and The Angels Take Manhattan, and I do mean the very final
scenes, is their simplicity, the Doctor driving alone in Bessie across
the screen and young Amelia smiling up at the sky. We as fans knew that
the Doctor and Rose could never have been together, and so all her
gushing at the end of Doomsday was a bit over the top.

[powrwrap]

Green Death was the first Doctor Who story I ever watched. Man, that was 30 years ago. Anyway, in Classic Who the tender, 'soap opera' moments were very rare, such as the scene at the end of Green Death, and are cherished by fans. In the new series it's so commonplace it's lost its power to move us.

[The Doctor]

In article <8ab114b8-7e1d-41a9...@googlegroups.com>,

powrwrap <powr...@aol.com> wrote:
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Mind would have been early PErtwee.

[Fett]

That's a great point, Alan. How many times was Rory going to die? How many times does Amy get taken over, how many times does their love go through the wringer. One or twice is fine but it's constant and the sci-fi ideas get put way on the backburner. Moffat wants to make the show about this stuff and then fit the sci-fi stuff where ever he can fit it in. I don't ever wanna see another couple on the Tardis. Way too many sappy moments in general. And I'm tired of Murray Gold's sappy music too. Do we really need the choir chanting stuff every episode?

[MDS]

I'm inclined to agree with you on this. It might be why fans who don't
want to see endless emotional scenes were happy with series four.

[The Doctor]

In article <41e02851-3c3e-4cd9...@googlegroups.com>,

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> by fans. >In the new series it's so commonplace it's lost its power to mov=
>e us.
>
>That's a great point, Alan. How many times was Rory going to die? How many =
>times does Amy get taken over, how many times does their love go through th=
>e wringer. One or twice is fine but it's constant and the sci-fi ideas get =
>put way on the backburner. Moffat wants to make the show about this stuff a=
>nd then fit the sci-fi stuff where ever he can fit it in. I don't ever wann=
>a see another couple on the Tardis. Way too many sappy moments in general. =
>And I'm tired of Murray Gold's sappy music too. Do we really need the choir=
> chanting stuff every episode?
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In the end, Rory and Amy ended up dying in NYC as Brits.