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Blueshirt

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Feb 14, 2024, 8:53:11 AMFeb 14
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For anyone interested, the scripts for the Doctor Who 60th
Anniversary and Christmas Specials (2023) have now been added to the
Whoniverse script library. They are downloadable as PDF files.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/writers/scripts/whoniverse/doctor-who-2023/60th-anniversary-and-christmas-special-2023



Whoniverse script library...


https://www.bbc.co.uk/writers/scripts/whoniverse

The Doctor

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Feb 14, 2024, 9:30:27 AMFeb 14
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In article <xn0oi2fs1...@reader.xsnews.nl>,
And chakotey.net ?
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solar penguin

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Feb 14, 2024, 9:54:41 AMFeb 14
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Thanks.

It supports the theory that there is something strange going
on with Isaac Newton. His housekeeper and the Steeleye Span
fan in the pub really are the same woman, not just played by
the same actress, and she’s ‘a woman we’ll see a lot more of’
in future.

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The Doctor

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Feb 14, 2024, 9:58:48 AMFeb 14
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In article <uqik7d$2mg3v$1...@dont-email.me>,
Well, getting ready ...

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Blueshirt

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Feb 14, 2024, 10:18:37 AMFeb 14
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solar penguin wrote:

>
> Blueshirt <blue...@indigo.news> wrote:
>
> >
> > For anyone interested, the scripts for the Doctor Who 60th
> > Anniversary and Christmas Specials (2023) have now been added to
> > the Whoniverse script library. They are downloadable as PDF
> > files.
> >
https://www.bbc.co.uk/writers/scripts/whoniverse/doctor-who-2023/60th-anniversary-and-christmas-special-2023
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> It supports the theory that there is something strange going
> on with Isaac Newton.

Yes, I got the impression that the Isaac Newton scene was not as it
seems. Mainly because Donna didn't know the word "gravity" in Wild
Blue Yonder when the Doctor said it, he then the corrected it to
"mavity".

> His housekeeper and the Steeleye Span fan in the pub
> really are the same woman, not just played by the same
> actress, and she’s ‘a woman we’ll see a lot more of
> in future.

I think RTD has laid the groundwork for a LOT of things that will be
explained in Season One... or even Season Two.

Blueshirt

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Feb 14, 2024, 10:33:15 AMFeb 14
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The Doctor wrote:

> In article <uqik7d$2mg3v$1...@dont-email.me>,
> solar penguin <solar....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > It supports the theory that there is something strange going
> > on with Isaac Newton. His housekeeper and the Steeleye Span
> > fan in the pub really are the same woman, not just played by
> > the same actress, and she’s ‘a woman we’ll see a lot more of’
> > in future.
>
> Well, getting ready ...

We're all getting ready for May Dave... I'm sure RTD is going to
provide us with plenty of surprises, and talking points!!!

solar penguin

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Feb 14, 2024, 10:56:38 AMFeb 14
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Blueshirt <blue...@indigo.news> wrote:

> solar penguin wrote:
>
>>
>> Blueshirt <blue...@indigo.news> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/writers/scripts/whoniverse/doctor-who-2023/60th-anniversary-and-christmas-special-2023
>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> It supports the theory that there is something strange going
>> on with Isaac Newton.
>
> Yes, I got the impression that the Isaac Newton scene was not as it
> seems. Mainly because Donna didn't know the word "gravity" in Wild
> Blue Yonder when the Doctor said it, he then the corrected it to
> "mavity".
>

That’s why you’re the captain, Cap’n!

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solar penguin

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Feb 14, 2024, 11:00:19 AMFeb 14
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Blueshirt <blue...@indigo.news> wrote:

> The Doctor wrote:
>
>>
>> Well, getting ready ...
>
> We're all getting ready for May Dave... I'm sure RTD is going to
> provide us with plenty of surprises, and talking points!!!
>

It’s probably gonna start on 18 May, the weekend after
Eurovision. The world isn’t ready for the camp cheesiness
if both shows on the same night!

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Blueshirt

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Feb 14, 2024, 11:07:38 AMFeb 14
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Some might say Ncuti Gatwa dancing around in a kilt as the Doctor
would fit-in perfectly with the goings-on in Eurovision that night!
;-)

The BBC might think the two shows would compliment each other!

The Doctor

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Feb 14, 2024, 11:21:23 AMFeb 14
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In article <xn0oi2ih5...@reader.xsnews.nl>,
Exactly Captain Bluebeard!

The Doctor

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Feb 14, 2024, 11:21:46 AMFeb 14
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In article <uqio2g$2n85l$1...@dont-email.me>,
When is the FA CUp?

The Doctor

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Feb 14, 2024, 11:22:03 AMFeb 14
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In article <xn0oi2jfz...@news.eternal-september.org>,
fuuny one Cpatin Bluebeard!

The Doctor

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Feb 14, 2024, 11:22:22 AMFeb 14
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In article <xn0oi2i3q...@reader.xsnews.nl>,
Get ready to see anger!

The Doctor

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Feb 14, 2024, 11:24:43 AMFeb 14
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In article <uqinrj$2n6m8$1...@dont-email.me>,
Said the feather bearded one!

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>solar penguin

John Hall

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Feb 14, 2024, 12:01:18 PMFeb 14
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In message <uqio2g$2n85l$1...@dont-email.me>, solar penguin
<solar....@gmail.com> writes
I go off on a cruise on that date. I'll have to remember to set it to
record before I go. (Though I suppose it will still be on iPlayer when I
get back.)
--
John Hall
"Acting is merely the art of keeping a large group of people
from coughing."
Sir Ralph Richardson (1902-83)

solar penguin

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Feb 14, 2024, 12:31:28 PMFeb 14
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John Hall <john_...@jhall.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <uqio2g$2n85l$1...@dont-email.me>, solar penguin
> <solar....@gmail.com> writes
>>
>>
>> It’s probably gonna start on 18 May, the weekend after
>> Eurovision. The world isn’t ready for the camp cheesiness
>> if both shows on the same night!
>>
>
> I go off on a cruise on that date. I'll have to remember to set it to
> record before I go. (Though I suppose it will still be on iPlayer when I
> get back.)

I could be wrong. That’s just my own personal speculation.

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solar penguin

Daniel65

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Feb 14, 2024, 6:58:50 PMFeb 14
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solar penguin wrote on 15/2/24 1:54 am:
(Remembering that I have yet to see Disney Who so have no real idea of
what you refer to ...._

"Steeleye Span"?? Don't you really mean 'Steeleye Dan'??
https://www.steelydan.com/ ;-P
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Daniel

The Doctor

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Feb 14, 2024, 8:02:44 PMFeb 14
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In article <Dmw$JTBYCPzlFwFo@jhall_nospamxx.co.uk>,
John Hall <jo...@jhall.co.uk> wrote:
>In message <uqio2g$2n85l$1...@dont-email.me>, solar penguin
><solar....@gmail.com> writes
>>
>>Blueshirt <blue...@indigo.news> wrote:
>>
>>> The Doctor wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well, getting ready ...
>>>
>>> We're all getting ready for May Dave... I'm sure RTD is going to
>>> provide us with plenty of surprises, and talking points!!!
>>>
>>
>>It’s probably gonna start on 18 May, the weekend after
>>Eurovision. The world isn’t ready for the camp cheesiness
>>if both shows on the same night!
>>
>
>I go off on a cruise on that date. I'll have to remember to set it to
>record before I go. (Though I suppose it will still be on iPlayer when I
>get back.)

Do you have an app?

>--
>John Hall
> "Acting is merely the art of keeping a large group of people
> from coughing."
> Sir Ralph Richardson (1902-83)


The Doctor

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Feb 14, 2024, 8:03:03 PMFeb 14
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In article <uqitdd$2oa8e$1...@dont-email.me>,
And I was asking when is the FA Cup?

>--
>solar penguin

The Doctor

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Feb 14, 2024, 8:03:54 PMFeb 14
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In article <uqjk3n$2sd29$1...@dont-email.me>,
How stelly eye are you Red-Bearded Dannyboy?

Daniel65

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Feb 15, 2024, 3:15:34 AMFeb 15
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The Doctor wrote on 15/2/24 12:03 pm:
> In article <uqitdd$2oa8e$1...@dont-email.me>, solar penguin
> <solar....@gmail.com> wrote:
>> John Hall <john_...@jhall.co.uk> wrote:
>>> In message <uqio2g$2n85l$1...@dont-email.me>, solar penguin
>>> <solar....@gmail.com> writes
>>>>
>>>> It’s probably gonna start on 18 May, the weekend after
>>>> Eurovision. The world isn’t ready for the camp cheesiness if
>>>> both shows on the same night!
>>>
>>> I go off on a cruise on that date. I'll have to remember to set
>>> it to record before I go. (Though I suppose it will still be on
>>> iPlayer when I get back.)
>>
>> I could be wrong. That’s just my own personal speculation.
>
> And I was asking when is the FA Cup?

Do YOUR own research, "Yellow Beard Yadallee". THIS *IS NOT* AN FA
GROUP, "Yellow Beard Yadallee". It might be ------------>
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Daniel

Blueshirt

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Feb 15, 2024, 6:12:22 AMFeb 15
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Daniel65 wrote:

> solar penguin wrote on 15/2/24 1:54 am:
> >
> >Blueshirt <blue...@indigo.news> wrote:
> > >
> > > Whoniverse script library...
> > >
> > >
> > > https://www.bbc.co.uk/writers/scripts/whoniverse
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > It supports the theory that there is something strange going
> > on with Isaac Newton. His housekeeper and the Steeleye Span
> > fan in the pub really are the same woman, not just played by
> > the same actress, and she’s ‘a woman we’ll see a lot more of’
> > in future.
> >
> Remembering that I have yet to see Disney Who so have no real
> idea of what you refer to ....

You can read the scripts now though can't you? So there's no excuse
not to know what went on!

Blueshirt

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Feb 15, 2024, 6:24:34 AMFeb 15
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Daniel65 wrote:

> solar penguin wrote on 15/2/24 1:54 am:
> >
> > It supports the theory that there is something strange going
> > on with Isaac Newton. His housekeeper and the Steeleye Span
> > fan in the pub really are the same woman, not just played by
> > the same actress, and she’s ‘a woman we’ll see a lot more of’
> > in future.
> >
> (Remembering that I have yet to see Disney Who so have no real
> idea of what you refer to ...._
>
> "Steeleye Span"?? Don't you really mean 'Steeleye Dan'??
> https://www.steelydan.com/ ;-P

No, I imagine SP actually means Steeleye Span! As in, the folk band
that is called Steeleye Span!

Blueshirt

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Feb 15, 2024, 6:26:44 AMFeb 15
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It's as good as any at the moment...

Blueshirt

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Feb 15, 2024, 6:48:22 AMFeb 15
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John Hall wrote:

> In message <uqio2g$2n85l$1...@dont-email.me>, solar penguin
> <solar....@gmail.com> writes
> >
> > It’s probably gonna start on 18 May, the weekend after
> > Eurovision. The world isn’t ready for the camp cheesiness
> > if both shows on the same night!
>
> I go off on a cruise on that date. I'll have to remember to set it
> to record before I go. (Though I suppose it will still be on
> iPlayer when I get back.)

Yes, of course... you'll be able to access it anytime on the iPlayer.

I actually think it could be on the same night as the Eurovision. I
could see RTD liking that idea.

solar penguin

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Feb 15, 2024, 7:18:13 AMFeb 15
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Blueshirt brought forth:
Yes. Thank you.

The woman mentions Steeleye Span and asks for their
song Gaudette.

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solar penguin

solar penguin

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Feb 15, 2024, 7:23:30 AMFeb 15
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solar penguin spewed:
Sorry, that should be Gaudete, with only one T.

https://youtu.be/EDc2FD-vy8M

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The Doctor

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Feb 15, 2024, 7:23:57 AMFeb 15
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In article <uqkh73$379j4$1...@dont-email.me>,
But it could interfere with BBC1 DW's scheduling.

>--
>Daniel

The Doctor

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Feb 15, 2024, 7:24:35 AMFeb 15
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In article <xn0oi3q83...@reader.xsnews.nl>,
Hear! Hear! Also available at chakotya !

The Doctor

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Feb 15, 2024, 7:25:29 AMFeb 15
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In article <xn0oi3qi8...@reader.xsnews.nl>,
Exactly! Red-Beard needs to be flogged captain BlueBeard!

The Doctor

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Feb 15, 2024, 7:26:07 AMFeb 15
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In article <xn0oi3qkx...@reader.xsnews.nl>,
REcall one of those saturdays is FA Cup Saturday so that might interfere!

The Doctor

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Feb 15, 2024, 7:26:33 AMFeb 15
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In article <xn0oi3r45...@reader.xsnews.nl>,
RTD and the BBC schedulers!!

The Doctor

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Feb 15, 2024, 7:26:52 AMFeb 15
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In article <uqkve2$3a582$1...@dont-email.me>,
Touche!
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The Doctor

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Feb 15, 2024, 7:27:15 AMFeb 15
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In article <uqkvnv$3a76f$1...@dont-email.me>,
no problem Feather bearded one!

Blueshirt

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Feb 15, 2024, 7:29:42 AMFeb 15
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The Doctor wrote:

> In article <xn0oi3q83...@reader.xsnews.nl>,
> Blueshirt <blue...@indigo.news> wrote:
> > Daniel65 wrote:
> >> >
> >> Remembering that I have yet to see Disney Who so have no real
> >> idea of what you refer to ....
> >
> > You can read the scripts now though can't you? So there's no
> > excuse not to know what went on!
>
> Hear! Hear! Also available at chakotya !

Why bother with Chakotya? The BBC have supplied the actual script in
PDF form to read or download...

Blueshirt

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Feb 15, 2024, 7:34:32 AMFeb 15
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The Doctor wrote:

> In article <xn0oi3r45...@reader.xsnews.nl>,
> Blueshirt <blue...@indigo.news> wrote:
> > John Hall wrote:
> >
> >> In message <uqio2g$2n85l$1...@dont-email.me>, solar penguin
> >> <solar....@gmail.com> writes
> >> >
> >> > It’s probably gonna start on 18 May, the weekend after
> >> > Eurovision. The world isn’t ready for the camp cheesiness
> >> > if both shows on the same night!
> >>
> >> I go off on a cruise on that date. I'll have to remember to set
> >> it to record before I go. (Though I suppose it will still be on
> >> iPlayer when I get back.)
> >
> > Yes, of course... you'll be able to access it anytime on the
> > iPlayer.
> >
> > I actually think it could be on the same night as the
> > Eurovision. I could see RTD liking that idea.
>
> RTD and the BBC schedulers!!

I'm just thinking it's the sort of thing that RTD - and the BBC -
might like the idea of... but like SP, I'm only speculating.

Blueshirt

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Feb 15, 2024, 7:37:38 AMFeb 15
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The Doctor wrote:

> In article <uqkh73$379j4$1...@dont-email.me>,
> Daniel65 <dani...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> > The Doctor wrote on 15/2/24 12:03 pm:
> >>
> >> And I was asking when is the FA Cup?
> >
> > Do YOUR own research, "Yellow Beard Yadallee". THIS *IS NOT* AN
> > FA GROUP, "Yellow Beard Yadallee". It might be ------------>
>
> But it could interfere with BBC1 DW's scheduling.

The FA Cup Final is the 25th May...

Which is the last Saturday of May, so I'd say Season One would have
started by then.

The Doctor

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Feb 15, 2024, 7:40:22 AMFeb 15
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In article <xn0oi3s6t...@news.eternal-september.org>,
One is PDF, the other HTML.

Your choice.

The Doctor

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Feb 15, 2024, 7:42:34 AMFeb 15
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In article <xn0oi3sfg...@reader.xsnews.nl>,
Eurovision, the FA Cup.

Then it could all start 4 May while we want on election results.

Blueshirt

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Feb 15, 2024, 7:50:56 AMFeb 15
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The Doctor wrote:

> In article <xn0oi3s6t...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> Blueshirt <blue...@indigo.news> wrote:
> > The Doctor wrote:
> >>
> >> Also available at chakotya !
> >
> > Why bother with Chakotya? The BBC have supplied the actual
> > scripts in PDF form to read or download...
>
> One is PDF, the other HTML.
>
> Your choice.

Yes I know, of course everyone can choose.

What I meant was, now that the BBC are supplying the actual scripts,
people and fans interested in writing/scripts and that sort of thing
would probably prefer to view and/or download the actual script than
read a HTML transcript.

The Chakotya site has served us well over the years for checking
stuff from Doctor Who episodes out but now the BBC are providing us
with the official scripts for the episodes, all in one place. I
think it's great.

Blueshirt

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Feb 15, 2024, 7:57:00 AMFeb 15
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The Doctor wrote:

> In article <xn0oi3sfg...@reader.xsnews.nl>,
> Blueshirt <blue...@indigo.news> wrote:
> > The Doctor wrote:
> >> But it could interfere with BBC1 DW's scheduling.
> >
> > The FA Cup Final is the 25th May...
> >
> > Which is the last Saturday of May, so I'd say Season One would
> > have started by then.
>
> Eurovision, the FA Cup.

Eurovision doesn't usually start until 8pm, maybe 7:30pm? Whilst the
FA Cup Final usually kicks off at 3pm, so neither would really clash
with any Doctor Who episode if they was on around 6pm ish.

I'd say it won't be too long before the BBC Spring schedules are
out, so we'll find out soon.

Blueshirt

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Feb 15, 2024, 8:02:40 AMFeb 15
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solar penguin wrote:

>
> Blueshirt brought forth:
>
> > Daniel65 wrote:
> >>
> >> "Steeleye Span"?? Don't you really mean 'Steeleye Dan'??
> >
> > No, I imagine SP actually means Steeleye Span! As in, the
> > folk band that is called Steeleye Span!
>
> Yes. Thank you.
>
> The woman mentions Steeleye Span and asks for their
> song Gaudette.

Note for Daniel... it's a Christmas Carol, sung in Latin!

:-)

The Doctor

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Feb 15, 2024, 8:20:45 AMFeb 15
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In article <xn0oi3srb...@reader.xsnews.nl>,
We have 2 good sources! we have a choice.

The Doctor

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Feb 15, 2024, 8:21:21 AMFeb 15
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In article <xn0oi3swo...@reader.xsnews.nl>,
Overtime/added extra time could play have.

The Doctor

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In article <xn0oi3t5a...@reader.xsnews.nl>,
Teaser.

Mickmane

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Feb 16, 2024, 3:18:25 AMFeb 16
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On 16.02.24, Blueshirt <blue...@indigo.news> wrote:

> The BBC have supplied the actual script in PDF form to read or
> download...

Very nice!

What I want to ask you specifically though, what's different between
this post from you, and the other one that didn't arrive here? Any idea
at all? This bugs me!

(Were the others crossposts too?)

--

Mickmane

Daniel65

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The Doctor wrote on 15/2/24 11:23 pm:
> In article <uqkh73$379j4$1...@dont-email.me>, Daniel65
> <dani...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>> The Doctor wrote on 15/2/24 12:03 pm:
>>> In article <uqitdd$2oa8e$1...@dont-email.me>, solar penguin
>>> <solar....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> John Hall <john_...@jhall.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>> In message <uqio2g$2n85l$1...@dont-email.me>, solar penguin
>>>>> <solar....@gmail.com> writes
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It’s probably gonna start on 18 May, the weekend
>>>>>> after Eurovision. The world isn’t ready for the camp
>>>>>> cheesiness if both shows on the same night!
>>>>>
>>>>> I go off on a cruise on that date. I'll have to remember to
>>>>> set it to record before I go. (Though I suppose it will still
>>>>> be on iPlayer when I get back.)
>>>>
>>>> I could be wrong. That’s just my own personal
>>>> speculation.
>>>
>>> And I was asking when is the FA Cup?
>>
>> Do YOUR own research, "Yellow Beard Yadallee". THIS *IS NOT* AN FA
>> GROUP, "Yellow Beard Yadallee". It might be ------------>
>
> But it could interfere with BBC1 DW's scheduling.

So WHAT?? Make a discussion for once in YOUR life, "Yellow Beard Yadallee"!!
--
Daniel

Daniel65

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Feb 16, 2024, 4:25:52 AMFeb 16
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Blueshirt wrote on 15/2/24 10:24 pm:
> Daniel65 wrote:
>> solar penguin wrote on 15/2/24 1:54 am:
>>>
>>> It supports the theory that there is something strange going
>>> on with Isaac Newton. His housekeeper and the Steeleye Span
>>> fan in the pub really are the same woman, not just played by
>>> the same actress, and she’s ‘a woman we’ll see a lot more of’
>>> in future.
>>>
>> (Remembering that I have yet to see Disney Who so have no real
>> idea of what you refer to ...._
>>
>> "Steeleye Span"?? Don't you really mean 'SteelyDan'??
>> https://www.steelydan.com/ ;-P
>
> No, I imagine SP actually means Steeleye Span! As in, the folk band
> that is called Steeleye Span!
>
Hmm! Actually formed BEFORE 'SteelyDan', apparently!! Never heard of them!
--
Daniel

Daniel65

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Feb 16, 2024, 4:29:34 AMFeb 16
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Blueshirt wrote on 16/2/24 12:02 am:
WELL! That's gunna be pretty useless, me trying to read it, then!! ;-P
--
Daniel

Blueshirt

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Feb 16, 2024, 6:38:48 AMFeb 16
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Daniel65 wrote:

> Blueshirt wrote on 15/2/24 10:24 pm:
> > Daniel65 wrote:
> > > >
> > > (Remembering that I have yet to see Disney Who so have no real
> > > idea of what you refer to ...._
> > >
> > > "Steeleye Span"?? Don't you really mean 'SteelyDan'??
> >
> > No, I imagine SP actually means Steeleye Span! As in, the folk
> > band that is called Steeleye Span!
> >
> Hmm! Actually formed BEFORE 'SteelyDan', apparently!! Never heard
> of them!

You haven't missed much! Well, unless folk music is your thing.

Steeleye Span were kind of popular over here back in the day, which
is the only reason I'd heard of them. But we're a very folky music
country anyway.

Blueshirt

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Feb 16, 2024, 6:38:48 AMFeb 16
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You're supposed to listen to it... and/or sing along.

So you've ten months to get the hang of it before Christmas!!!

Blueshirt

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Feb 16, 2024, 7:10:19 AMFeb 16
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Mickmane wrote:
>
> What I want to ask you specifically though, what's different
> between this post from you, and the other one that didn't arrive
> here? Any idea at all? This bugs me!

Don't know, but I have noticed in the last few months if I use my
back-up news server (eternal-september) random posts go missing.
Maybe posting multiple links or cross-posts set off some nntp
server's spam filters? As it's usually my posts with Doctor Who
related YouTube links or news article links that don't appear,
especially on eternal-september's servers.

Although nothing I post to RADW is earth-shatteringly interesting
anyway, so don't worry you haven't missed out on much!!!

The Doctor

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In article <uqn93p$3pqjj$2...@dont-email.me>,
As you like it Red-bearded Dannyboy!

The Doctor

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LOL <VBG>

The Doctor

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In article <xn0oi55di...@reader.xsnews.nl>,
I love AC/DC !

The Doctor

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And then there is crucifixion and ressurection music!

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In article <GYyKPC4LczB@ATH>, Mickmane <A...@kruemel.org> wrote:
>On 16.02.24, Blueshirt <blue...@indigo.news> wrote:
>
>> The BBC have supplied the actual script in PDF form to read or
>> download...
>
>Very nice!
>
>What I want to ask you specifically though, what's different between
>this post from you, and the other one that didn't arrive here? Any idea
>at all? This bugs me!
>

Scripts for the fans!

>(Were the others crossposts too?)
>

I think Captain Bluebeard did that!

>--
>
>Mickmane

The Doctor

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In article <xn0oi5698...@reader.xsnews.nl>,
Just an NNTP to NNTP issue!

solar penguin

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Replying as a repost, just in case Mickmane didn’t see the original

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I used my main nntp service [xs news] for the messages I've posted
today, so they should have peered properly...

As the old saying goes, pay peanuts get monkeys! :-)

Mickmane

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On 16.02.24, solar penguin <solar....@gmail.com> wrote:

> Replying as a repost, just in case Mickmane didn?t see the original

Thanks!

I grabbed it from google, but this works too. :) (Especially as google
will even stop archiving posts.)

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Mickmane

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Blueshirt <blue...@indigo.news> wrote:

(Pinched from google, as the reply didn't turn up here.)

>> Mickmane wrote:

>> What I want to ask you specifically though, what's different
>> between this post from you, and the other one that didn't arrive
>> here? Any idea at all? This bugs me!

> Don't know, but I have noticed in the last few months if I use my
> back-up news server (eternal-september) random posts go missing.
> Maybe posting multiple links or cross-posts set off some nntp
> server's spam filters? As it's usually my posts with Doctor Who
> related YouTube links or news article links that don't appear,
> especially on eternal-september's servers.

Thing is, the crossposted post arrived, the others are missing!

The other week I changed something about local filter software, finally
getting replies to be highlighted (automatically would only work if it's
Fidonet posts). I wonder whether I messed up something there.

.. After checking headers, doesn't look like it.

"Organisat. : xs news" posts are missing (but before that, there was one
highlighted one even).
"Organisat. : Indigo News" posts still arrive.

> Although nothing I post to RADW is earth-shatteringly interesting
> anyway, so don't worry you haven't missed out on much!!!

But it's one of the few sources of signal, versus all that tagging each
other names and replying to everything said noise!

--

Mickmane

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Mickmane wrote:

> Blueshirt <blue...@indigo.news> wrote:
>
> > Don't know, but I have noticed in the last few months if I use my
> > back-up news server (eternal-september) random posts go missing.
> > Maybe posting multiple links or cross-posts set off some nntp
> > server's spam filters?
>
> Thing is, the crossposted post arrived, the others are missing!

Just checked through yesterdays posts made by me to RADW. There are
14 messages to RADW in my sent folder, plus Dave's stats list 14
messages as well, which mean the NetKnow nntp server received my 14
messages. (First time I've ever found them helpful!) All 14 messages
appear on the 'news.eternal-september.org' and 'reader.xsnews.nl'
servers... so there are no issues there as both servers carried my
messages.

> The other week I changed something about local filter software,
> finally getting replies to be highlighted (automatically would
> only work if it's Fidonet posts). I wonder whether I messed up
> something there.

It is possible the fact that I cross-posted the BBC script links, and
there was two URL's in the same post, triggered your news server's
filters, or maybe an nntp peer en route blocked them?

So, I don't know what the issue is as you was replying to my
messages a week ago???

I will single post messages with URL's in future and see if that
makes a difference.


Blueshirt

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Feb 16, 2024, 3:11:14 PMFeb 16
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Mickmane wrote:

> Blueshirt <blue...@indigo.news> wrote:
>
> > Although nothing I post to RADW is earth-shatteringly interesting
> > anyway, so don't worry you haven't missed out on much!!!
>
> But it's one of the few sources of signal, versus all that tagging
> each other names and replying to everything said noise!

Just not links to Dalek photos!!! ;-)

The Doctor

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In article <uqo3pc$3uent$1...@dont-email.me>,
We are big DW family!

The Doctor

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And monkeys are running the economy.

The Doctor

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Methinks 2 archives will replace the inept Google!

>--
>
>Mickmane

The Doctor

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In article <GYyKrz75czB@ATH>, Mickmane <A...@kruemel.org> wrote:
>Blueshirt <blue...@indigo.news> wrote:
>
>(Pinched from google, as the reply didn't turn up here.)
>
>>> Mickmane wrote:
>
>>> What I want to ask you specifically though, what's different
>>> between this post from you, and the other one that didn't arrive
>>> here? Any idea at all? This bugs me!
>
>> Don't know, but I have noticed in the last few months if I use my
>> back-up news server (eternal-september) random posts go missing.
>> Maybe posting multiple links or cross-posts set off some nntp
>> server's spam filters? As it's usually my posts with Doctor Who
>> related YouTube links or news article links that don't appear,
>> especially on eternal-september's servers.
>
>Thing is, the crossposted post arrived, the others are missing!
>
>The other week I changed something about local filter software, finally
>getting replies to be highlighted (automatically would only work if it's
>Fidonet posts). I wonder whether I messed up something there.
>
>.. After checking headers, doesn't look like it.
>
>"Organisat. : xs news" posts are missing (but before that, there was one
>highlighted one even).
>"Organisat. : Indigo News" posts still arrive.
>

Individual.net is having hiccups?

>> Although nothing I post to RADW is earth-shatteringly interesting
>> anyway, so don't worry you haven't missed out on much!!!
>
>But it's one of the few sources of signal, versus all that tagging each
>other names and replying to everything said noise!
>

Oh! Well!!

The Doctor

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Feb 16, 2024, 5:54:47 PMFeb 16
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In article <xn0oi5i5s...@reader.xsnews.nl>,
Blueshirt <blue...@indigo.news> wrote:
>Mickmane wrote:
>
>> Blueshirt <blue...@indigo.news> wrote:
>>
>> > Don't know, but I have noticed in the last few months if I use my
>> > back-up news server (eternal-september) random posts go missing.
>> > Maybe posting multiple links or cross-posts set off some nntp
>> > server's spam filters?
>>
>> Thing is, the crossposted post arrived, the others are missing!
>
>Just checked through yesterdays posts made by me to RADW. There are
>14 messages to RADW in my sent folder, plus Dave's stats list 14
>messages as well, which mean the NetKnow nntp server received my 14
>messages. (First time I've ever found them helpful!) All 14 messages
>appear on the 'news.eternal-september.org' and 'reader.xsnews.nl'
>servers... so there are no issues there as both servers carried my
>messages.
>

Please do not give me a reason to do a daily stat post :-)

>> The other week I changed something about local filter software,
>> finally getting replies to be highlighted (automatically would
>> only work if it's Fidonet posts). I wonder whether I messed up
>> something there.
>
>It is possible the fact that I cross-posted the BBC script links, and
>there was two URL's in the same post, triggered your news server's
>filters, or maybe an nntp peer en route blocked them?
>
>So, I don't know what the issue is as you was replying to my
>messages a week ago???
>
>I will single post messages with URL's in future and see if that
>makes a difference.
>
>

MIght be an NNTP issue.

The Doctor

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Exterminate!

Daniel65

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Blueshirt wrote on 16/2/24 11:07 pm:
> Mickmane wrote:
>>
>> What I want to ask you specifically though, what's different
>> between this post from you, and the other one that didn't arrive
>> here? Any idea at all? This bugs me!
>
> Don't know, but I have noticed in the last few months if I use my
> back-up news server (eternal-september) random posts go missing.
> Maybe posting multiple links or cross-posts set off some nntp
> server's spam filters?

Yeap! Eternal-September does have a limit of allowable Cross-posts (four
I think), but this shouldn't effect you .... unless you are replying to
"Yellow Beard Yadallee" and he has Cross-posted to extra UseNet groups
over and above his usual four groups!!

> As it's usually my posts with Doctor Who related YouTube links or
> news article links that don't appear, especially on
> eternal-september's servers.
>
> Although nothing I post to RADW is earth-shatteringly interesting
> anyway, so don't worry you haven't missed out on much!!!
>
BUT THE SENSIBLE ONEs HERE *NEED YOUR POSTS to increase the
Signal-to-Noise ratio here-abouts!!
--
Daniel

Daniel65

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The Doctor wrote on 17/2/24 9:54 am:

<Snip>

> Please do not give me a reason to do a daily stat post :-)

As if YOU, "Yellow Beard Yadallee", need a reason!! Several here-abouts
have asked/told you to stop them .... but still YOU, "Yellow Beard
Yadallee", continue!!
--
Daniel

Mickmane

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Lol. :)

Daleks are fine. But keep the naked people. :)

--

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On 17.02.24, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
> In article <GYyKqk8LczB@ATH>, Mickmane <A...@kruemel.org> wrote:
>> On 16.02.24, solar penguin <solar....@gmail.com> wrote:

>>> Replying as a repost, just in case Mickmane didn?t see the original
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> I grabbed it from google, but this works too. :) (Especially as
>> google will even stop archiving posts.)

> Methinks 2 archives will replace the inept Google!

Which?

--

Mickmane

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> In article <xn0oi5gnm...@reader.xsnews.nl>,
> Blueshirt <blue...@indigo.news> wrote:
>> solar penguin wrote:

>>> Replying as a repost, just in case Mickmane didn���t see the
>>> original
>>
>> I used my main nntp service [xs news] for the messages I've posted
>> today, so they should have peered properly...

That's the ones that don't get here. :-?

--

Mickmane

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> In article <xn0oi5i5s...@reader.xsnews.nl>,
> Blueshirt <blue...@indigo.news> wrote:
>> Mickmane wrote:

>>> The other week I changed something about local filter software,
>>> finally getting replies to be highlighted (automatically would
>>> only work if it's Fidonet posts). I wonder whether I messed up
>>> something there.
>>
>> It is possible the fact that I cross-posted the BBC script links,
>> and there was two URL's in the same post, triggered your news
>> server's filters, or maybe an nntp peer en route blocked them?

Nah, there's plenty of links in other groups I read. De.rec.garten and
rec.arts.sf.written, mainly.

>> So, I don't know what the issue is as you was replying to my
>> messages a week ago???

Yeah. Going by old messages, something happened about 1 to 2 weeks ago
(the last post I see from xs news from you is one from the 8th).

>> I will single post messages with URL's in future and see if that
>> makes a difference.

I don't think it's that, though.

--

Mickmane

The Doctor

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In article <uqppoa$apsv$1...@dont-email.me>,
Daniel65 <dani...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>Blueshirt wrote on 16/2/24 11:07 pm:
>> Mickmane wrote:
>>>
>>> What I want to ask you specifically though, what's different
>>> between this post from you, and the other one that didn't arrive
>>> here? Any idea at all? This bugs me!
>>
>> Don't know, but I have noticed in the last few months if I use my
>> back-up news server (eternal-september) random posts go missing.
>> Maybe posting multiple links or cross-posts set off some nntp
>> server's spam filters?
>
>Yeap! Eternal-September does have a limit of allowable Cross-posts (four
>I think), but this shouldn't effect you .... unless you are replying to
>"Yellow Beard Yadallee" and he has Cross-posted to extra UseNet groups
>over and above his usual four groups!!
>

The max is 6 groups

>> As it's usually my posts with Doctor Who related YouTube links or
>> news article links that don't appear, especially on
>> eternal-september's servers.
>>
>> Although nothing I post to RADW is earth-shatteringly interesting
>> anyway, so don't worry you haven't missed out on much!!!
>>
>BUT THE SENSIBLE ONEs HERE *NEED YOUR POSTS to increase the
>Signal-to-Noise ratio here-abouts!!

Does that include yourself?

>--
>Daniel

The Doctor

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In article <uqpq6k$arn1$1...@dont-email.me>,
cut-and-lie Red-bearded Dannyboy in action!

>--
>Daniel

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You know Katy Manning!

>--
>
>Mickmane

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markive and usenetarchives .

The Doctor

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Could be an issue with individual.net .

>--
>
>Mickmane

The Doctor

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Is their a breakdown somewhere?

>--
>
>Mickmane

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The Doctor wrote:

> In article <xn0oi5izn...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> Blueshirt <blue...@indigo.news> wrote:
> > Mickmane wrote:
> >
> >> Blueshirt <blue...@indigo.news> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Although nothing I post to RADW is earth-shatteringly
> >> > interesting anyway, so don't worry you haven't missed out on
> >> > much!!!
> >> But it's one of the few sources of signal, versus all that
> >> tagging each other names and replying to everything said noise!
> >
> > Just not links to Dalek photos!!! ;-)
>
> Exterminate!

I don't think it was the Dalek that he had a problem with though!!!
;-)

Blueshirt

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Daniel65 wrote:

> Blueshirt wrote on 16/2/24 11:07 pm:
> >
> > Although nothing I post to RADW is earth-shatteringly
> > interesting anyway, so don't worry you haven't missed out on
> > much!!!
> >
> BUT THE SENSIBLE ONEs HERE *NEED YOUR POSTS to increase the
> Signal-to-Noise ratio here-abouts!!

I'm not going away yer know!

Blueshirt

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Mickmane wrote:

> > In article <xn0oi5gnm...@reader.xsnews.nl>,
> > Blueshirt <blue...@indigo.news> wrote:
> > I used my main nntp service [xs news] for the messages I've
> > posted today, so they should have peered properly...
>
> That's the ones that don't get here. :-?

That's the Dutch for yer... pay peanuts get monkeys! They are
normally very good though. Maybe they don't like Daleks and naked
women either?!

I will investigate with them and see what's going on... I suppose I
could always move my business to our friendly neighbourhood nntp
service, NetKnow...

Blueshirt

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The Doctor wrote:
> >
>
> Please do not give me a reason to do a daily stat post :-)

First time EVER a stat post came in useful. But I can count to 14 on
my own anyway... so please don't!!!

Mickmane

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> In article <GZ1LEK$LczB@ATH>, Mickmane <A...@kruemel.org> wrote:
>>> In article <xn0oi5i5s...@reader.xsnews.nl>,
>>> Blueshirt <blue...@indigo.news> wrote:

>>>> So, I don't know what the issue is as you was replying to my
>>>> messages a week ago???
>>
>> Yeah. Going by old messages, something happened about 1 to 2 weeks
>> ago (the last post I see from xs news from you is one from the 8th).
[...]

> Is their a breakdown somewhere?

Memories of net/split on IRC!

--

Mickmane

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On 17.02.24, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
> In article <GZ1LCuLqczB@ATH>, Mickmane <A...@kruemel.org> wrote:
>> On 17.02.24, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca>
>> wrote:

>>> Methinks 2 archives will replace the inept Google!
>>
>> Which?

> markive and usenetarchives .

Guess I'll have to ask google about actual links. :P

--

Mickmane

Mickmane

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On 17.02.24, Blueshirt <blue...@indigo.news> wrote:
> Mickmane wrote:
>>> In article <xn0oi5gnm...@reader.xsnews.nl>,
>>> Blueshirt <blue...@indigo.news> wrote:

>>> I used my main nntp service [xs news] for the messages I've
>>> posted today, so they should have peered properly...
>>
>> That's the ones that don't get here. :-?

> That's the Dutch for yer... pay peanuts get monkeys! They are
> normally very good though. Maybe they don't like Daleks and naked
> women either?!

Haha. Must have been the naked woman.

Everyone likes Daleks, no? :)

> I will investigate with them and see what's going on... I suppose I
> could always move my business to our friendly neighbourhood nntp
> service, NetKnow...

Or just keep using what you made this post with. :)

--

Mickmane

The Doctor

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In article <xn0oi6y1s...@news.eternal-september.org>,
LOL!

The Doctor

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In article <xn0oi6y3y...@news.eternal-september.org>,
Same here!

The Doctor

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In article <xn0oi6yae...@news.eternal-september.org>,
Blueshirt <blue...@indigo.news> wrote:
>Mickmane wrote:
>
>> > In article <xn0oi5gnm...@reader.xsnews.nl>,
>> > Blueshirt <blue...@indigo.news> wrote:
>> > I used my main nntp service [xs news] for the messages I've
>> > posted today, so they should have peered properly...
>>
>> That's the ones that don't get here. :-?
>
>That's the Dutch for yer... pay peanuts get monkeys! They are
>normally very good though. Maybe they don't like Daleks and naked
>women either?!

LOL!

>
>I will investigate with them and see what's going on... I suppose I
>could always move my business to our friendly neighbourhood nntp
>service, NetKnow...
>

You are welcome to come on baord!
You and I do not like tim!

The Doctor

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In article <xn0oi6zz0...@news.eternal-september.org>,
You missed the humour.

The Doctor

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I was on IRC then ...

The Doctor

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In article <GZ1Lm5G5czB@ATH>, Mickmane <A...@kruemel.org> wrote:
>On 17.02.24, Blueshirt <blue...@indigo.news> wrote:
>> Mickmane wrote:
>>>> In article <xn0oi5gnm...@reader.xsnews.nl>,
>>>> Blueshirt <blue...@indigo.news> wrote:
>
>>>> I used my main nntp service [xs news] for the messages I've
>>>> posted today, so they should have peered properly...
>>>
>>> That's the ones that don't get here. :-?
>
>> That's the Dutch for yer... pay peanuts get monkeys! They are
>> normally very good though. Maybe they don't like Daleks and naked
>> women either?!
>
>Haha. Must have been the naked woman.
>
>Everyone likes Daleks, no? :)
>

Daleks are mutated Kaleds!

>> I will investigate with them and see what's going on... I suppose I
>> could always move my business to our friendly neighbourhood nntp
>> service, NetKnow...
>
>Or just keep using what you made this post with. :)
>

As you like it!

The Doctor

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In article <GZ1Lc3q5czB@ATH>, Mickmane <A...@kruemel.org> wrote:
>On 17.02.24, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
>> In article <GZ1LCuLqczB@ATH>, Mickmane <A...@kruemel.org> wrote:
>>> On 17.02.24, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca>
>>> wrote:
>
>>>> Methinks 2 archives will replace the inept Google!
>>>
>>> Which?
>
>> markive and usenetarchives .
>
>Guess I'll have to ask google about actual links. :P
>

iOops! That should nbe narkive and usenetarchives.

Blueshirt

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The Doctor wrote:

> In article <xn0oi6yae...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> Blueshirt <blue...@indigo.news> wrote:
>
> >
> > I will investigate with them and see what's going on... I
> > suppose I could always move my business to our friendly
> > neighbourhood nntp service, NetKnow...
> >
>
> You are welcome to come on baord!

Do you do porn binaries?

> You and I do not like tim!

Not true!!!

I don't know Tim and - banter aside - I can't dislike somebody I
don't know.

I don't like Tim's constant (as was) number/date 'spamming' [my
term]of RADW... if Tim were a responsible poster here I would have
no problem engaging with him. I dislike nobody.

Blueshirt

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The Doctor wrote:

> In article <xn0oi6zz0...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> Blueshirt <blue...@indigo.news> wrote:
> > The Doctor wrote:
> >> >
> >>
> >> Please do not give me a reason to do a daily stat post :-)
> >
> > First time EVER a stat post came in useful. But I can count to
> > 14 on my own anyway... so please don't!!!
>
> You missed the humour.

No, I got it.

But I was being serious!

The Doctor

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In article <xn0oi73dm...@news.eternal-september.org>,
Blueshirt <blue...@indigo.news> wrote:
>The Doctor wrote:
>
>> In article <xn0oi6yae...@news.eternal-september.org>,
>> Blueshirt <blue...@indigo.news> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > I will investigate with them and see what's going on... I
>> > suppose I could always move my business to our friendly
>> > neighbourhood nntp service, NetKnow...
>> >
>>
>> You are welcome to come on baord!
>
>Do you do porn binaries?
>

No!

>> You and I do not like tim!
>
>Not true!!!
>
>I don't know Tim and - banter aside - I can't dislike somebody I
>don't know.
>
>I don't like Tim's constant (as was) number/date 'spamming' [my
>term]of RADW... if Tim were a responsible poster here I would have
>no problem engaging with him. I dislike nobody.

tim is a stalker !

The Doctor

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In article <xn0oi7gt3...@news.eternal-september.org>,
Blueshirt <blue...@indigo.news> wrote:
>The Doctor wrote:
>
>> In article <xn0oi6zz0...@news.eternal-september.org>,
>> Blueshirt <blue...@indigo.news> wrote:
>> > The Doctor wrote:
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Please do not give me a reason to do a daily stat post :-)
>> >
>> > First time EVER a stat post came in useful. But I can count to
>> > 14 on my own anyway... so please don't!!!
>>
>> You missed the humour.
>
>No, I got it.
>
>But I was being serious!

LOL!
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