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Adam H. Kerman
Oct 28, 2015, 5:23:18 PM10/28/15
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born 1944, died 1986, sadly, on his 42nd birthday
He played Harry Sullivan during the 1974-1975 season. I rather liked him.
He played Harry Sullivan during the 1974-1975 season. I rather liked him.
Timothy Bruening
Oct 28, 2015, 6:59:17 PM10/28/15
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On Wednesday, October 28, 2015 at 2:23:18 PM UTC-7, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
> born 1944, died 1986, sadly, on his 42nd birthday
>
> He played Harry Sullivan during the 1974-1975 season. I rather liked him.
Was his birthday party abruptly canceled? Was anyone left holding the bag?
> born 1944, died 1986, sadly, on his 42nd birthday
>
> He played Harry Sullivan during the 1974-1975 season. I rather liked him.
Bill Jillians
Oct 29, 2015, 1:06:32 AM10/29/15
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In message <n0rec4$muh$2...@news.albasani.net>, Adam H. Kerman
<a...@chinet.com> writes
young so it was probably AIDS.
--
Bill Jillians
Idlehands admits how dumb he is.
"Thank god we are as fucking stupid as the British, that is if the chicken
fucker and binky are any representation."
<a...@chinet.com> writes
>born 1944, died 1986, sadly, on his 42nd birthday
>
>He played Harry Sullivan during the 1974-1975 season. I rather liked him.
Seeing as nowhere says how he died my guess is if it was the 80s, he was
>
>He played Harry Sullivan during the 1974-1975 season. I rather liked him.
young so it was probably AIDS.
--
Bill Jillians
Idlehands admits how dumb he is.
"Thank god we are as fucking stupid as the British, that is if the chicken
fucker and binky are any representation."
Adam H. Kerman
Oct 29, 2015, 1:27:17 AM10/29/15
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Bill Jillians <willaim.j...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>Adam H. Kerman <a...@chinet.com> writes
>>born 1944, died 1986, sadly, on his 42nd birthday
>>He played Harry Sullivan during the 1974-1975 season. I rather liked him.
>Seeing as nowhere says how he died my guess is if it was the 80s, he was
>young so it was probably AIDS.
No where, you stupid shit? He had a heart attack, complications of
>Adam H. Kerman <a...@chinet.com> writes
>>born 1944, died 1986, sadly, on his 42nd birthday
>>He played Harry Sullivan during the 1974-1975 season. I rather liked him.
>Seeing as nowhere says how he died my guess is if it was the 80s, he was
>young so it was probably AIDS.
diabetes, married, with two sons.
Please go take a flying leap off a cliff.
Bill Jillians
Oct 29, 2015, 1:51:43 AM10/29/15
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In message <n0sank$6fa$2...@news.albasani.net>, Adam H. Kerman
of how he died. Very remiss of them and opening the door to conclusion
jumping.
<a...@chinet.com> writes
>Bill Jillians <willaim.j...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>Adam H. Kerman <a...@chinet.com> writes
>
>>>born 1944, died 1986, sadly, on his 42nd birthday
>
>>>He played Harry Sullivan during the 1974-1975 season. I rather liked him.
>
>>Seeing as nowhere says how he died my guess is if it was the 80s, he was
>>young so it was probably AIDS.
>
>No where, you stupid shit? He had a heart attack, complications of
>diabetes, married, with two sons.
>
>Please go take a flying leap off a cliff.
Well excuse me. I checked the wikipedia page and there was no mention
>Bill Jillians <willaim.j...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>Adam H. Kerman <a...@chinet.com> writes
>
>>>born 1944, died 1986, sadly, on his 42nd birthday
>
>>>He played Harry Sullivan during the 1974-1975 season. I rather liked him.
>
>>Seeing as nowhere says how he died my guess is if it was the 80s, he was
>>young so it was probably AIDS.
>
>No where, you stupid shit? He had a heart attack, complications of
>diabetes, married, with two sons.
>
>Please go take a flying leap off a cliff.
of how he died. Very remiss of them and opening the door to conclusion
jumping.
Mike M
Oct 29, 2015, 2:36:20 AM10/29/15
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On 29/10/2015 05:52, Bill Jillians wrote:
> In message <n0sank$6fa$2...@news.albasani.net>, Adam H. Kerman
> <a...@chinet.com> writes
>> Bill Jillians <willaim.j...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>> Adam H. Kerman <a...@chinet.com> writes
>>
>>>> born 1944, died 1986, sadly, on his 42nd birthday
>>
>>>> He played Harry Sullivan during the 1974-1975 season. I rather liked
>>>> him.
>>
>>> Seeing as nowhere says how he died my guess is if it was the 80s, he was
>>> young so it was probably AIDS.
>>
>> No where, you stupid shit? He had a heart attack, complications of
>> diabetes, married, with two sons.
>>
>> Please go take a flying leap off a cliff.
>
> Well excuse me. I checked the wikipedia page and there was no mention
> of how he died. Very remiss of them and opening the door to conclusion
> jumping.
>
No, Bill. What is remiss of YOU, not Wikipedia, is just looking at one
> In message <n0sank$6fa$2...@news.albasani.net>, Adam H. Kerman
> <a...@chinet.com> writes
>> Bill Jillians <willaim.j...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>> Adam H. Kerman <a...@chinet.com> writes
>>
>>>> born 1944, died 1986, sadly, on his 42nd birthday
>>
>>>> He played Harry Sullivan during the 1974-1975 season. I rather liked
>>>> him.
>>
>>> Seeing as nowhere says how he died my guess is if it was the 80s, he was
>>> young so it was probably AIDS.
>>
>> No where, you stupid shit? He had a heart attack, complications of
>> diabetes, married, with two sons.
>>
>> Please go take a flying leap off a cliff.
>
> Well excuse me. I checked the wikipedia page and there was no mention
> of how he died. Very remiss of them and opening the door to conclusion
> jumping.
>
single non-definitive sourse of information and assuming that this means
that "nowhere says how he died" when typing "Ian Marter cause of death"
into Google would have brought you back "HEART ATTACK" in bg letters and
then in the summary entries visible on the first search page the second
and fourth results (the TARDIS Wikia, and his IMDb biography) would have
given you further details WITHOUT EVEN CLICKING THROUGH TO THE PAGES.
Conclusion jumping is something you chose to do by not even looking for
the information.
Wikipedia is not a "them" to be remiss. It's a crowd sourced data
repository with no standard requirements for content. It's usually a
good "go-to" for initial information (though not always). It should
never be treated as the sole repository of all knowledge on any subject.
--
"In 900 years of time and space, I've never met anyone who wasn't
important."
Adam H. Kerman
Oct 29, 2015, 2:43:59 AM10/29/15
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Bill Jillians <willaim.j...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>In message <n0sank$6fa$2...@news.albasani.net>, Adam H. Kerman
><a...@chinet.com> writes
>>Bill Jillians <willaim.j...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>>Adam H. Kerman <a...@chinet.com> writes
>>
>>>>born 1944, died 1986, sadly, on his 42nd birthday
>>
>>>>He played Harry Sullivan during the 1974-1975 season. I rather liked him.
>>
>>>Seeing as nowhere says how he died my guess is if it was the 80s, he was
>>>young so it was probably AIDS.
>>
>>No where, you stupid shit? He had a heart attack, complications of
>>diabetes, married, with two sons.
>>
>>Please go take a flying leap off a cliff.
>
>Well excuse me.
No. When you take that flying leap, land so that you
>In message <n0sank$6fa$2...@news.albasani.net>, Adam H. Kerman
><a...@chinet.com> writes
>>Bill Jillians <willaim.j...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>>Adam H. Kerman <a...@chinet.com> writes
>>
>>>>born 1944, died 1986, sadly, on his 42nd birthday
>>
>>>>He played Harry Sullivan during the 1974-1975 season. I rather liked him.
>>
>>>Seeing as nowhere says how he died my guess is if it was the 80s, he was
>>>young so it was probably AIDS.
>>
>>No where, you stupid shit? He had a heart attack, complications of
>>diabetes, married, with two sons.
>>
>>Please go take a flying leap off a cliff.
>
>Well excuse me.
sodomize yourself on a pike.
>I checked the wikipedia page and there was no mention
>of how he died. Very remiss of them and opening the door to conclusion
>jumping.
malicious gossip.
Bill Jillians
Oct 29, 2015, 3:24:19 AM10/29/15
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In message <d9dt32...@mid.individual.net>, Mike M
<mi...@xenocyte.com> writes
Since when does "probably" mean "this is an absolute certainty"?
<mi...@xenocyte.com> writes
Mike M
Oct 29, 2015, 4:13:43 AM10/29/15
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I'd expect from Aggy, not you.
Bill Jillians
Oct 29, 2015, 4:37:22 AM10/29/15
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In message <d9e2pk...@mid.individual.net>, Mike M
OK ... well I apologise for jumping to the wrong conclusion. Wikipedia
isn't as reliable as I thought it was.
isn't as reliable as I thought it was.
TB
Oct 29, 2015, 1:50:14 PM10/29/15
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Stephen Wilson
Oct 29, 2015, 1:54:30 PM10/29/15
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"Bill Jillians" <willaim.j...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:F$NLHxKaq...@btinternet.com...
>>
>>Stop being defensive and man up. That thoughtless AIDS jibe is something
>>I'd expect from Aggy, not you.
>>
>
> OK ... well I apologise for jumping to the wrong conclusion. Wikipedia
> isn't as reliable as I thought it was.
1. Wikipedia has never been that reliable. Anybody can edit a Wikipedia
>>Stop being defensive and man up. That thoughtless AIDS jibe is something
>>I'd expect from Aggy, not you.
>>
>
> OK ... well I apologise for jumping to the wrong conclusion. Wikipedia
> isn't as reliable as I thought it was.
entry. Most of the rubbish tends to get edited out, but a page on Wikipedia
should never take the place of a reliable source.
2. In this case it has nothing to do with the reliability of Wikipedia. The
page did not provide the information you wanted, so you made it up. And what
you made up was so very, very wrong.
Adam H. Kerman
Oct 29, 2015, 5:23:30 PM10/29/15
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but were too afraid to say it with greater confidence.
You're a sick fuck.
Adam H. Kerman
Oct 29, 2015, 5:24:54 PM10/29/15
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Wikipedia as you continue to do isn't an apology.
Just admit that you're a sick fuck and kill yourself already.
Bill Jillians
Oct 30, 2015, 12:45:22 AM10/30/15
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In message <n0u2r5$tid$5...@news.albasani.net>, Adam H. Kerman
I see an apology isn't enough for you.
I shall sacrifice all the members of my family presently alive tomorrow.
I shall sacrifice all the members of my family presently alive tomorrow.
TB
Oct 30, 2015, 1:46:55 PM10/30/15
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Pudentame
Oct 31, 2015, 11:50:13 PM10/31/15
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On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 05:06:52 +0000, Bill Jillians
<willaim.j...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>In message <n0rec4$muh$2...@news.albasani.net>, Adam H. Kerman
><a...@chinet.com> writes
>>born 1944, died 1986, sadly, on his 42nd birthday
>>
>>He played Harry Sullivan during the 1974-1975 season. I rather liked him.
>
>
>Seeing as nowhere says how he died my guess is if it was the 80s, he was
>young so it was probably AIDS.
He had diabetes and that led to a heart attack.
<willaim.j...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>In message <n0rec4$muh$2...@news.albasani.net>, Adam H. Kerman
><a...@chinet.com> writes
>>born 1944, died 1986, sadly, on his 42nd birthday
>>
>>He played Harry Sullivan during the 1974-1975 season. I rather liked him.
>
>
>Seeing as nowhere says how he died my guess is if it was the 80s, he was
>young so it was probably AIDS.
Idlehands
Nov 1, 2015, 1:21:12 AM11/1/15
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LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Bill Jillians
Nov 1, 2015, 3:37:30 AM11/1/15
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In message <n14asi$gnb$2...@dont-email.me>, Idlehands
<hide...@nospamhush.com> writes
SLUUUUUUUURRRRRRRPPPPPPPPPPP
<hide...@nospamhush.com> writes
Idlehands
Nov 1, 2015, 4:42:05 PM11/1/15
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But then you never do exceed expectations.
¡Gölök Z.L.F Buday AKA The Black Jester #theblackjester
Nov 1, 2015, 7:30:03 PM11/1/15
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On Wed, 28 Oct 2015 21:23:16 +0000 (UTC), in rec.arts.drwho "Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
Ąborn 1944, died 1986, sadly, on his 42nd birthday
Ą
ĄHe played Harry Sullivan during the 1974-1975 season. I rather liked him.
They refused to refer to his character by name this week too, fucking horrid of them. In a way a stroke of luck for him.
Ąborn 1944, died 1986, sadly, on his 42nd birthday
Ą
ĄHe played Harry Sullivan during the 1974-1975 season. I rather liked him.
They refused to refer to his character by name this week too, fucking horrid of them. In a way a stroke of luck for him.
TB
Nov 1, 2015, 9:06:57 PM11/1/15
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Bill Jillians
Nov 2, 2015, 12:22:12 AM11/2/15
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In message <n160r6$pq7$1...@dont-email.me>, Idlehands
Yeah ... I'm easy meat .... just the sort of person a bullyboi like you
finds easy to push around.
finds easy to push around.
Mike M
Nov 2, 2015, 1:42:02 AM11/2/15
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the UNIT date controversy AGAIN, boring) who was involved in the Loch
Ness Zygon incident and then assigned to Porton Down (genuinely
Britain's chemical warfare research base, in case anyone didn't know),
who developed the inversion gas.
So that was Harry Sullivan. Possibly they didn't name check him just
because the name would mean nothing to anyone who didn't know.
However, we fans got to know Harry Sullivan (and, previously, his
uncanny lookalike Lt. John Andrews :) ) over his year and a half in the
series. Harry Sullivan may have been a IDIOT! but developing a lethal
nerve gas? He was a good doctor who worked with the good Doctor (two of
him, even). I don't believe he would have been THAT kind of idiot.
It also contradicts what Sarah Jane said in _Death of the Doctor_ about
old companions: "I can't be sure, but there's a woman called Tegan in
Australia, fighting for Aboriginal rights. There's a Ben and Polly, in
India, running an orphanage there. There was Harry. Oh, I loved Harry.
He was a doctor. He did such good work with vaccines. He saved thousands
of lives. And there's a Dorothy something. She runs that company, A
Charitable Earth. She's raised billions. And this couple in Cambridge,
both professors. Ian and Barbara Chesterton. Rumour has it, they've
never aged. Not since the sixties. I wonder."
Makes you wonder if the Harry Sullivan they wouldn't name was a Zygon
copy who developed the gas ...
Mike M
Nov 2, 2015, 2:02:28 AM11/2/15
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acknowledged another canon debate - the "Dorothy" mentioned could have been
either Dodo or Ace - but we knew Dodo's surname was Chaplet. Ace's wasn't
given in the series. Some books gave it as "Gale" after the Dorothy in the
Wizard of Oz - after all, her backstory was that she had been taken up into
the magical worlds of space in a time tornado - but on audio (and in other
books?) she became "McShane". Hence, Dorothy something.
Also, the caring but past tense reference to Harry is clearly a nicely
subtle acknowledgment of Ian Marter's death.
Idlehands
Nov 2, 2015, 9:04:29 AM11/2/15
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Bill Jillians
Nov 2, 2015, 9:24:33 AM11/2/15
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Idlehands
Nov 2, 2015, 8:01:46 PM11/2/15
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and your fantasy words merely icing on the cake.
Poor poor chicken fucker.
Bill Jillians
Nov 3, 2015, 4:12:20 AM11/3/15
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In message <n190ti$35c$1...@dont-email.me>, Idlehands
I have no desire to fill this newsgroup with mudslinging crap which Mike
M will hold me responsible for.
You on the other hand can do what you like because anyone with any sense
in this newsgroup knows how pointless it is trying to hold you
responsible for your own actions.
M will hold me responsible for.
You on the other hand can do what you like because anyone with any sense
in this newsgroup knows how pointless it is trying to hold you
responsible for your own actions.
Mike M
Nov 3, 2015, 4:24:51 AM11/3/15
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of what constitutes pointless crap - my criteria are idiosyncratic and mine
alone. For instance if someone else were to play that game they might
disregard a lot more of Tim's and Yads's posts than I do. I tend to give
them credit for trying sometimes. And I won't be doing it again that way -
was just to see quite how much of the group content was, in my opinion,
dross I could do without.
It's not going to reduce the "2 days since I last picked my nose!" posts ,
or the 400 quoted lines followed by "And then there Is [non sequitur]" by
even one post.
Pudentame
Nov 4, 2015, 12:04:27 AM11/4/15
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On Mon, 2 Nov 2015 06:41:59 +0000, Mike M <mi...@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>On 02/11/2015 02:06, TB wrote:
>> On Sunday, November 1, 2015 at 4:30:03 PM UTC-8, ¡Gölök Z.L.F Buday AKA The Black Jester #theblackjester wrote:
>>> On Wed, 28 Oct 2015 21:23:16 +0000 (UTC), in rec.arts.drwho "Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> ?born 1944, died 1986, sadly, on his 42nd birthday
>On 02/11/2015 02:06, TB wrote:
>> On Sunday, November 1, 2015 at 4:30:03 PM UTC-8, ¡Gölök Z.L.F Buday AKA The Black Jester #theblackjester wrote:
>>> On Wed, 28 Oct 2015 21:23:16 +0000 (UTC), in rec.arts.drwho "Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> ?
>>> ?He played Harry Sullivan during the 1974-1975 season. I rather liked him.
probably just a stupid continuity error, because someone forgot to
check the character bio.
Mike M
Nov 4, 2015, 1:24:09 AM11/4/15
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little Easter Egg for old fans, but it just felt wrong for the
character. Desn't help that Ian Marter was an active fan, author of many
novelisations and his own companion chronicle, and scritpwriter for a
planned Doctor Who movie, so he is remembered more strongly and fondly
by a lot of older fans than some other companions.
¡Gölök Z.L.F Buday AKA The Black Jester #theblackjester
Nov 8, 2015, 9:19:29 PM11/8/15
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On Sun, 1 Nov 2015 18:06:56 -0800 (PST), in rec.arts.drwho TB <tsbr...@dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
ĄOn Sunday, November 1, 2015 at 4:30:03 PM UTC-8, =C2=A1G=C3=B6l=C3=B6k Z.L.=
ĄF Buday AKA The Black Jester #theblackjester wrote:
Ą> On Wed, 28 Oct 2015 21:23:16 +0000 (UTC), in rec.arts.drwho "Adam H. Kerm=
Ąan" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
Ą>=20
Ą> =C4=84born 1944, died 1986, sadly, on his 42nd birthday
Ą> =C4=84
Ą> =C4=84He played Harry Sullivan during the 1974-1975 season. I rather like=
Ąd him.
Ą>=20
Ą> They refused to refer to his character by name this week too, fucking hor=
Ąrid of them. In a way a stroke of luck for him.
Ą
ĄWhy would they refer to Harry Sullivan? Did he appear in the episode?
The inside out chemical was refered to as his discovery. Not by character name,
just as the copied naval officer (didn't know if it was the 70s or 80s, they have the
BBC archives to reach for, I have aging memory that doesn't wear out some how. Yet
these hacks have a regular gig, it makes me laugh.)
Meritocrasy RIP, or Rest in a constant Spin,
ĄOn Sunday, November 1, 2015 at 4:30:03 PM UTC-8, =C2=A1G=C3=B6l=C3=B6k Z.L.=
ĄF Buday AKA The Black Jester #theblackjester wrote:
Ą> On Wed, 28 Oct 2015 21:23:16 +0000 (UTC), in rec.arts.drwho "Adam H. Kerm=
Ąan" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
Ą>=20
Ą> =C4=84born 1944, died 1986, sadly, on his 42nd birthday
Ą> =C4=84
Ą> =C4=84He played Harry Sullivan during the 1974-1975 season. I rather like=
Ąd him.
Ą>=20
Ą> They refused to refer to his character by name this week too, fucking hor=
Ąrid of them. In a way a stroke of luck for him.
Ą
ĄWhy would they refer to Harry Sullivan? Did he appear in the episode?
The inside out chemical was refered to as his discovery. Not by character name,
just as the copied naval officer (didn't know if it was the 70s or 80s, they have the
BBC archives to reach for, I have aging memory that doesn't wear out some how. Yet
these hacks have a regular gig, it makes me laugh.)
Meritocrasy RIP, or Rest in a constant Spin,
¡Gölök Z.L.F Buday AKA The Black Jester #theblackjester
Nov 8, 2015, 9:29:16 PM11/8/15
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On Mon, 2 Nov 2015 06:41:59 +0000, in rec.arts.drwho Mike M <mi...@xenocyte.com> wrote:
íOn 02/11/2015 02:06, TB wrote:
í> On Sunday, November 1, 2015 at 4:30:03 PM UTC-8, ┬íG├Âl├Âk Z.L.F Buday AKA The Black Jester #theblackjester wrote:
í>> On Wed, 28 Oct 2015 21:23:16 +0000 (UTC), in rec.arts.drwho "Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
í>>
í>> ─äborn 1944, died 1986, sadly, on his 42nd birthday
í>> ─ä
í>> ─äHe played Harry Sullivan during the 1974-1975 season. I rather liked him.
í>>
í>> They refused to refer to his character by name this week too, fucking horrid of them. In a way a stroke of luck for him.
í>
í> Why would they refer to Harry Sullivan? Did he appear in the episode?
í>
í
íThey mentioned a medical officer from UNIT in the 70s/80s (acknowledging
íthe UNIT date controversy AGAIN, boring) who was involved in the Loch
íNess Zygon incident and then assigned to Porton Down (genuinely
íBritain's chemical warfare research base, in case anyone didn't know),
íwho developed the inversion gas.
í
íSo that was Harry Sullivan. Possibly they didn't name check him just
íbecause the name would mean nothing to anyone who didn't know.
í
íHowever, we fans got to know Harry Sullivan (and, previously, his
íuncanny lookalike Lt. John Andrews :) ) over his year and a half in the
íseries. Harry Sullivan may have been a IDIOT! but developing a lethal
ínerve gas? He was a good doctor who worked with the good Doctor (two of
íhim, even). I don't believe he would have been THAT kind of idiot.
í
íIt also contradicts what Sarah Jane said in _Death of the Doctor_ about
íold companions: "I can't be sure, but there's a woman called Tegan in
íAustralia, fighting for Aboriginal rights. There's a Ben and Polly, in
íIndia, running an orphanage there. There was Harry. Oh, I loved Harry.
íHe was a doctor. He did such good work with vaccines. He saved thousands
íof lives. And there's a Dorothy something. She runs that company, A
íCharitable Earth. She's raised billions. And this couple in Cambridge,
íboth professors. Ian and Barbara Chesterton. Rumour has it, they've
ínever aged. Not since the sixties. I wonder."
í
íMakes you wonder if the Harry Sullivan they wouldn't name was a Zygon
ícopy who developed the gas ...
Well there's helping your species and killing the cause of your PTSD. Zygon was a exo-parasitic
entity. The Doctor Himself killed Brotons entire crew saving humans and helped them kill Broton never
shedding a tear. This wasn't comparible to a scared marsh man in E-Space for instance.
The Doctor defended his own life against genocide charges against an organism of penis plants, they
looked that way, despite them being a mad scientist creation, not just a naturally forming creature (6th).
Dalek was a dilemma, mostly due to the aliances and good that counter-acted them. Plus no risk of
shape shifting with daleks or body consumption like in the Ark where neither showed a tear for a entymological terror.
Hah, saved WASPS from Wasps. Or Green Hornets?
íOn 02/11/2015 02:06, TB wrote:
í> On Sunday, November 1, 2015 at 4:30:03 PM UTC-8, ┬íG├Âl├Âk Z.L.F Buday AKA The Black Jester #theblackjester wrote:
í>> On Wed, 28 Oct 2015 21:23:16 +0000 (UTC), in rec.arts.drwho "Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
í>>
í>> ─äborn 1944, died 1986, sadly, on his 42nd birthday
í>> ─ä
í>> ─äHe played Harry Sullivan during the 1974-1975 season. I rather liked him.
í>>
í>> They refused to refer to his character by name this week too, fucking horrid of them. In a way a stroke of luck for him.
í>
í> Why would they refer to Harry Sullivan? Did he appear in the episode?
í>
í
íThey mentioned a medical officer from UNIT in the 70s/80s (acknowledging
íthe UNIT date controversy AGAIN, boring) who was involved in the Loch
íNess Zygon incident and then assigned to Porton Down (genuinely
íBritain's chemical warfare research base, in case anyone didn't know),
íwho developed the inversion gas.
í
íSo that was Harry Sullivan. Possibly they didn't name check him just
íbecause the name would mean nothing to anyone who didn't know.
í
íHowever, we fans got to know Harry Sullivan (and, previously, his
íuncanny lookalike Lt. John Andrews :) ) over his year and a half in the
íseries. Harry Sullivan may have been a IDIOT! but developing a lethal
ínerve gas? He was a good doctor who worked with the good Doctor (two of
íhim, even). I don't believe he would have been THAT kind of idiot.
í
íIt also contradicts what Sarah Jane said in _Death of the Doctor_ about
íold companions: "I can't be sure, but there's a woman called Tegan in
íAustralia, fighting for Aboriginal rights. There's a Ben and Polly, in
íIndia, running an orphanage there. There was Harry. Oh, I loved Harry.
íHe was a doctor. He did such good work with vaccines. He saved thousands
íof lives. And there's a Dorothy something. She runs that company, A
íCharitable Earth. She's raised billions. And this couple in Cambridge,
íboth professors. Ian and Barbara Chesterton. Rumour has it, they've
ínever aged. Not since the sixties. I wonder."
í
íMakes you wonder if the Harry Sullivan they wouldn't name was a Zygon
ícopy who developed the gas ...
Well there's helping your species and killing the cause of your PTSD. Zygon was a exo-parasitic
entity. The Doctor Himself killed Brotons entire crew saving humans and helped them kill Broton never
shedding a tear. This wasn't comparible to a scared marsh man in E-Space for instance.
The Doctor defended his own life against genocide charges against an organism of penis plants, they
looked that way, despite them being a mad scientist creation, not just a naturally forming creature (6th).
Dalek was a dilemma, mostly due to the aliances and good that counter-acted them. Plus no risk of
shape shifting with daleks or body consumption like in the Ark where neither showed a tear for a entymological terror.
Hah, saved WASPS from Wasps. Or Green Hornets?
¡Gölök Z.L.F Buday AKA The Black Jester #theblackjester
Nov 8, 2015, 10:10:39 PM11/8/15
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On Mon, 2 Nov 2015 07:02:24 +0000, in rec.arts.drwho Mike M <mi...@xenocyte.com> wrote:
ˇMike M <mi...@xenocyte.com> wrote:
ˇ> On 02/11/2015 02:06, TB wrote:
ˇ>> On Sunday, November 1, 2015 at 4:30:03 PM UTC-8, ¡Gölök Z.L.F Buday AKA
ˇ>> The Black Jester #theblackjester wrote:
ˇ>>> On Wed, 28 Oct 2015 21:23:16 +0000 (UTC), in rec.arts.drwho "Adam H.
ˇ>>> Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
ˇ>>>
ˇ>>> Ä„born 1944, died 1986, sadly, on his 42nd birthday
ˇ>>> Ä„
ˇ>>> Ä„He played Harry Sullivan during the 1974-1975 season. I rather liked him.
ˇ>>>
ˇ>>> They refused to refer to his character by name this week too, fucking
ˇ>>> horrid of them. In a way a stroke of luck for him.
ˇ>>
ˇ>> Why would they refer to Harry Sullivan? Did he appear in the episode?
ˇ>>
ˇ>
ˇ> They mentioned a medical officer from UNIT in the 70s/80s (acknowledging
ˇ> the UNIT date controversy AGAIN, boring) who was involved in the Loch
ˇ> Ness Zygon incident and then assigned to Porton Down (genuinely
ˇ> Britain's chemical warfare research base, in case anyone didn't know),
ˇ> who developed the inversion gas.
ˇ>
ˇ> So that was Harry Sullivan. Possibly they didn't name check him just
ˇ> because the name would mean nothing to anyone who didn't know.
ˇ>
ˇ> However, we fans got to know Harry Sullivan (and, previously, his
ˇ> uncanny lookalike Lt. John Andrews :) ) over his year and a half in the
ˇ> series. Harry Sullivan may have been a IDIOT! but developing a lethal
ˇ> nerve gas? He was a good doctor who worked with the good Doctor (two of
ˇ> him, even). I don't believe he would have been THAT kind of idiot.
ˇ>
ˇ> It also contradicts what Sarah Jane said in _Death of the Doctor_ about
ˇ> old companions: "I can't be sure, but there's a woman called Tegan in
ˇ> Australia, fighting for Aboriginal rights. There's a Ben and Polly, in
ˇ> India, running an orphanage there. There was Harry. Oh, I loved Harry.
ˇ> He was a doctor. He did such good work with vaccines. He saved thousands
ˇ> of lives. And there's a Dorothy something. She runs that company, A
ˇ> Charitable Earth. She's raised billions. And this couple in Cambridge,
ˇ> both professors. Ian and Barbara Chesterton. Rumour has it, they've
ˇ> never aged. Not since the sixties. I wonder."
ˇ>
ˇ> Makes you wonder if the Harry Sullivan they wouldn't name was a Zygon
ˇ> copy who developed the gas ...
ˇ>
ˇ
ˇWhen looking at that I suddenly realised that the Sarah Jane writers
ˇacknowledged another canon debate - the "Dorothy" mentioned could have been
ˇeither Dodo or Ace - but we knew Dodo's surname was Chaplet. Ace's wasn't
ˇgiven in the series. Some books gave it as "Gale" after the Dorothy in the
ˇWizard of Oz - after all, her backstory was that she had been taken up into
ˇthe magical worlds of space in a time tornado - but on audio (and in other
ˇbooks?) she became "McShane". Hence, Dorothy something.
ˇ
ˇAlso, the caring but past tense reference to Harry is clearly a nicely
ˇsubtle acknowledgment of Ian Marter's death.
ˇ
ˇ--
ˇ"In 900 years of time and space, I've never met anyone who wasn't
ˇimportant."
Hah, the Doctor being called a "Friend of Dorothy" She was only named in the
point of cotrrrrrodiction and irrelivant Radio/Comic side. Dodo was Dorothea and
aggitated the Doctor with her rain in spain.Like the so-called millenial ones talk.
Drax prison chatter. Be funny if she was a Speech Therapist.
That Sarah is a bit of contradiction too.
It's funny with Fenric, I often laughed playing Arkham City Armored seeing "Ace Chemicals."
ˇMike M <mi...@xenocyte.com> wrote:
ˇ> On 02/11/2015 02:06, TB wrote:
ˇ>> On Sunday, November 1, 2015 at 4:30:03 PM UTC-8, ¡Gölök Z.L.F Buday AKA
ˇ>> The Black Jester #theblackjester wrote:
ˇ>>> On Wed, 28 Oct 2015 21:23:16 +0000 (UTC), in rec.arts.drwho "Adam H.
ˇ>>> Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
ˇ>>>
ˇ>>> Ä„born 1944, died 1986, sadly, on his 42nd birthday
ˇ>>> Ä„
ˇ>>> Ä„He played Harry Sullivan during the 1974-1975 season. I rather liked him.
ˇ>>>
ˇ>>> They refused to refer to his character by name this week too, fucking
ˇ>>> horrid of them. In a way a stroke of luck for him.
ˇ>>
ˇ>> Why would they refer to Harry Sullivan? Did he appear in the episode?
ˇ>>
ˇ>
ˇ> They mentioned a medical officer from UNIT in the 70s/80s (acknowledging
ˇ> the UNIT date controversy AGAIN, boring) who was involved in the Loch
ˇ> Ness Zygon incident and then assigned to Porton Down (genuinely
ˇ> Britain's chemical warfare research base, in case anyone didn't know),
ˇ> who developed the inversion gas.
ˇ>
ˇ> So that was Harry Sullivan. Possibly they didn't name check him just
ˇ> because the name would mean nothing to anyone who didn't know.
ˇ>
ˇ> However, we fans got to know Harry Sullivan (and, previously, his
ˇ> uncanny lookalike Lt. John Andrews :) ) over his year and a half in the
ˇ> series. Harry Sullivan may have been a IDIOT! but developing a lethal
ˇ> nerve gas? He was a good doctor who worked with the good Doctor (two of
ˇ> him, even). I don't believe he would have been THAT kind of idiot.
ˇ>
ˇ> It also contradicts what Sarah Jane said in _Death of the Doctor_ about
ˇ> old companions: "I can't be sure, but there's a woman called Tegan in
ˇ> Australia, fighting for Aboriginal rights. There's a Ben and Polly, in
ˇ> India, running an orphanage there. There was Harry. Oh, I loved Harry.
ˇ> He was a doctor. He did such good work with vaccines. He saved thousands
ˇ> of lives. And there's a Dorothy something. She runs that company, A
ˇ> Charitable Earth. She's raised billions. And this couple in Cambridge,
ˇ> both professors. Ian and Barbara Chesterton. Rumour has it, they've
ˇ> never aged. Not since the sixties. I wonder."
ˇ>
ˇ> Makes you wonder if the Harry Sullivan they wouldn't name was a Zygon
ˇ> copy who developed the gas ...
ˇ>
ˇ
ˇWhen looking at that I suddenly realised that the Sarah Jane writers
ˇacknowledged another canon debate - the "Dorothy" mentioned could have been
ˇeither Dodo or Ace - but we knew Dodo's surname was Chaplet. Ace's wasn't
ˇgiven in the series. Some books gave it as "Gale" after the Dorothy in the
ˇWizard of Oz - after all, her backstory was that she had been taken up into
ˇthe magical worlds of space in a time tornado - but on audio (and in other
ˇbooks?) she became "McShane". Hence, Dorothy something.
ˇ
ˇAlso, the caring but past tense reference to Harry is clearly a nicely
ˇsubtle acknowledgment of Ian Marter's death.
ˇ
ˇ--
ˇ"In 900 years of time and space, I've never met anyone who wasn't
ˇimportant."
Hah, the Doctor being called a "Friend of Dorothy" She was only named in the
point of cotrrrrrodiction and irrelivant Radio/Comic side. Dodo was Dorothea and
aggitated the Doctor with her rain in spain.Like the so-called millenial ones talk.
Drax prison chatter. Be funny if she was a Speech Therapist.
That Sarah is a bit of contradiction too.
It's funny with Fenric, I often laughed playing Arkham City Armored seeing "Ace Chemicals."
¡Gölök Z.L.F Buday AKA The Black Jester #theblackjester
Nov 8, 2015, 10:15:22 PM11/8/15
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On Wed, 4 Nov 2015 06:24:08 +0000, in rec.arts.drwho Mike M <mi...@xenocyte.com> wrote:
ĄOn 04/11/2015 05:04, Pudentame wrote:
Ą> On Mon, 2 Nov 2015 06:41:59 +0000, Mike M <mi...@xenocyte.com> wrote:
Ą>
Ą>> On 02/11/2015 02:06, TB wrote:
Ą>>> On Sunday, November 1, 2015 at 4:30:03 PM UTC-8, ĄGölök Z.L.F Buday AKA The Black Jester #theblackjester wrote:
Ą>>>> On Wed, 28 Oct 2015 21:23:16 +0000 (UTC), in rec.arts.drwho "Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
Ą>>>>
Ą>>>> ?born 1944, died 1986, sadly, on his 42nd birthday
Ą>>>> ?
Ą>>>> ?He played Harry Sullivan during the 1974-1975 season. I rather liked him.
Ą>>>>
Ą>>>> They refused to refer to his character by name this week too, fucking horrid of them. In a way a stroke of luck for him.
Ą>>>
Ą>>> Why would they refer to Harry Sullivan? Did he appear in the episode?
Ą>>>
Ą>>
Ą>> They mentioned a medical officer from UNIT in the 70s/80s (acknowledging
Ą>> the UNIT date controversy AGAIN, boring) who was involved in the Loch
Ą>> Ness Zygon incident and then assigned to Porton Down (genuinely
Ą>> Britain's chemical warfare research base, in case anyone didn't know),
Ą>> who developed the inversion gas.
Ą>>
Ą>> So that was Harry Sullivan. Possibly they didn't name check him just
Ą>> because the name would mean nothing to anyone who didn't know.
Ą>>
Ą>> However, we fans got to know Harry Sullivan (and, previously, his
Ą>> uncanny lookalike Lt. John Andrews :) ) over his year and a half in the
Ą>> series. Harry Sullivan may have been a IDIOT! but developing a lethal
Ą>> nerve gas? He was a good doctor who worked with the good Doctor (two of
Ą>> him, even). I don't believe he would have been THAT kind of idiot.
Ą>>
Ą>> It also contradicts what Sarah Jane said in _Death of the Doctor_ about
Ą>> old companions: "I can't be sure, but there's a woman called Tegan in
Ą>> Australia, fighting for Aboriginal rights. There's a Ben and Polly, in
Ą>> India, running an orphanage there. There was Harry. Oh, I loved Harry.
Ą>> He was a doctor. He did such good work with vaccines. He saved thousands
Ą>> of lives. And there's a Dorothy something. She runs that company, A
Ą>> Charitable Earth. She's raised billions. And this couple in Cambridge,
Ą>> both professors. Ian and Barbara Chesterton. Rumour has it, they've
Ą>> never aged. Not since the sixties. I wonder."
Ą>>
Ą>> Makes you wonder if the Harry Sullivan they wouldn't name was a Zygon
Ą>> copy who developed the gas ...
Ą>
Ą> I think you're reading more into it than is really there. It's
Ą> probably just a stupid continuity error, because someone forgot to
Ą> check the character bio.
Ą>
Ą
ĄOh, I'm aware that the plan was just to insert it into the dialogue as a
Ąlittle Easter Egg for old fans, but it just felt wrong for the
Ącharacter. Desn't help that Ian Marter was an active fan, author of many
Ąnovelisations and his own companion chronicle, and scritpwriter for a
Ąplanned Doctor Who movie, so he is remembered more strongly and fondly
Ąby a lot of older fans than some other companions.
Ą
Ą--
Ą"In 900 years of time and space, I've never met anyone who wasn't
Ąimportant."
They never check the history, and wiki and archives at their fingers, do nothing right.
They pander here and there. Like not being sure of the decade....but it isn't against
his character to kill off hostile Aliens. Nor the Doctor's. Especially these or Wasps.
Or a Sontaran.
ĄOn 04/11/2015 05:04, Pudentame wrote:
Ą> On Mon, 2 Nov 2015 06:41:59 +0000, Mike M <mi...@xenocyte.com> wrote:
Ą>
Ą>> On 02/11/2015 02:06, TB wrote:
Ą>>> On Sunday, November 1, 2015 at 4:30:03 PM UTC-8, ĄGölök Z.L.F Buday AKA The Black Jester #theblackjester wrote:
Ą>>>> On Wed, 28 Oct 2015 21:23:16 +0000 (UTC), in rec.arts.drwho "Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
Ą>>>>
Ą>>>> ?born 1944, died 1986, sadly, on his 42nd birthday
Ą>>>> ?
Ą>>>> ?He played Harry Sullivan during the 1974-1975 season. I rather liked him.
Ą>>>>
Ą>>>> They refused to refer to his character by name this week too, fucking horrid of them. In a way a stroke of luck for him.
Ą>>>
Ą>>> Why would they refer to Harry Sullivan? Did he appear in the episode?
Ą>>>
Ą>>
Ą>> They mentioned a medical officer from UNIT in the 70s/80s (acknowledging
Ą>> the UNIT date controversy AGAIN, boring) who was involved in the Loch
Ą>> Ness Zygon incident and then assigned to Porton Down (genuinely
Ą>> Britain's chemical warfare research base, in case anyone didn't know),
Ą>> who developed the inversion gas.
Ą>>
Ą>> So that was Harry Sullivan. Possibly they didn't name check him just
Ą>> because the name would mean nothing to anyone who didn't know.
Ą>>
Ą>> However, we fans got to know Harry Sullivan (and, previously, his
Ą>> uncanny lookalike Lt. John Andrews :) ) over his year and a half in the
Ą>> series. Harry Sullivan may have been a IDIOT! but developing a lethal
Ą>> nerve gas? He was a good doctor who worked with the good Doctor (two of
Ą>> him, even). I don't believe he would have been THAT kind of idiot.
Ą>>
Ą>> It also contradicts what Sarah Jane said in _Death of the Doctor_ about
Ą>> old companions: "I can't be sure, but there's a woman called Tegan in
Ą>> Australia, fighting for Aboriginal rights. There's a Ben and Polly, in
Ą>> India, running an orphanage there. There was Harry. Oh, I loved Harry.
Ą>> He was a doctor. He did such good work with vaccines. He saved thousands
Ą>> of lives. And there's a Dorothy something. She runs that company, A
Ą>> Charitable Earth. She's raised billions. And this couple in Cambridge,
Ą>> both professors. Ian and Barbara Chesterton. Rumour has it, they've
Ą>> never aged. Not since the sixties. I wonder."
Ą>>
Ą>> Makes you wonder if the Harry Sullivan they wouldn't name was a Zygon
Ą>> copy who developed the gas ...
Ą>
Ą> I think you're reading more into it than is really there. It's
Ą> probably just a stupid continuity error, because someone forgot to
Ą> check the character bio.
Ą>
Ą
ĄOh, I'm aware that the plan was just to insert it into the dialogue as a
Ąlittle Easter Egg for old fans, but it just felt wrong for the
Ącharacter. Desn't help that Ian Marter was an active fan, author of many
Ąnovelisations and his own companion chronicle, and scritpwriter for a
Ąplanned Doctor Who movie, so he is remembered more strongly and fondly
Ąby a lot of older fans than some other companions.
Ą
Ą--
Ą"In 900 years of time and space, I've never met anyone who wasn't
Ąimportant."
They never check the history, and wiki and archives at their fingers, do nothing right.
They pander here and there. Like not being sure of the decade....but it isn't against
his character to kill off hostile Aliens. Nor the Doctor's. Especially these or Wasps.
Or a Sontaran.
TB
Nov 9, 2015, 3:08:54 PM11/9/15
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On Sunday, November 8, 2015 at 7:10:39 PM UTC-8, ¡Gölök Z.L.F Buday AKA The Black Jester #theblackjester wrote:
> Hah, the Doctor being called a "Friend of Dorothy" She was only named in the
> point of cotrrrrrodiction and irrelivant Radio/Comic side. Dodo was Dorothea and
> aggitated the Doctor with her rain in spain.Like the so-called millenial ones talk.
> Drax prison chatter. Be funny if she was a Speech Therapist.
> That Sarah is a bit of contradiction too.
> It's funny with Fenric, I often laughed playing Arkham City Armored seeing "Ace Chemicals."
Has the Doctor visited the Land of Oz?
> Hah, the Doctor being called a "Friend of Dorothy" She was only named in the
> point of cotrrrrrodiction and irrelivant Radio/Comic side. Dodo was Dorothea and
> aggitated the Doctor with her rain in spain.Like the so-called millenial ones talk.
> Drax prison chatter. Be funny if she was a Speech Therapist.
> That Sarah is a bit of contradiction too.
> It's funny with Fenric, I often laughed playing Arkham City Armored seeing "Ace Chemicals."
Mike Hall
Nov 10, 2015, 12:23:44 PM11/10/15
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episode. This is bizarre. Maybe the koalas are keeping him away?
Mike Hall
TB
Nov 10, 2015, 11:04:57 PM11/10/15
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Timothy Bruening
Nov 11, 2015, 12:02:25 AM11/11/15
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On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 9:23:44 AM UTC-8, Mike Hall wrote:
Mike M
Nov 11, 2015, 1:33:42 AM11/11/15
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--
"In 900 years of time and space, I've never met anyone who wasn't
important."
paul.i...@gmail.com
Nov 11, 2015, 3:04:22 AM11/11/15
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Mike Hall wrote:
> I don't even think that the Doctor has visited Australia for an entire
> episode. This is bizarre. Maybe the koalas are keeping him away?
He visited Australia in "Enemy of the World".
> I don't even think that the Doctor has visited Australia for an entire
> episode. This is bizarre. Maybe the koalas are keeping him away?
paul.i...@gmail.com
Nov 11, 2015, 3:11:49 AM11/11/15
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Mike M said:
> Makes you wonder if the Harry Sullivan they wouldn't name was a Zygon
> copy who developed the gas ...
OTOH since the boxes were a bluff, it's possible there was no gas.
> Makes you wonder if the Harry Sullivan they wouldn't name was a Zygon
> copy who developed the gas ...
Maybe the Doctor visited Harry at Porton Down, and helped him to
fake the invention of the gas. That's my head-canon anyway.
Mike Hall
Nov 11, 2015, 4:55:49 AM11/11/15
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nonsense with aborigines but no whole Australian episodes. I am really
surprised that with the increasing amount of American episodes, we don't
spend more time in Australia learning that Uluru (I am trying hard to
forget the name "Ayers Rock") scares cybermen or whatnot. I think
Capaldi might be interested in doing more episodes if there is less
running around London and meeting worldwide fans.
Mike Hall
Stephen Wilson
Nov 11, 2015, 1:27:28 PM11/11/15
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"TB" <tsbr...@dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote in message
news:f0b9f645-01d9-4f78...@googlegroups.com...
On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 9:23:44 AM UTC-8, Mike Hall wrote:
>> On 09/11/2015 20:08, TB wrote:
>> > On Sunday, November 8, 2015 at 7:10:39 PM UTC-8, ĄGölök Z.L.F Buday
>> On 09/11/2015 20:08, TB wrote:
>> > AKA The Black Jester #theblackjester wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hah, the Doctor being called a "Friend of Dorothy" She was only
>> >> named in the
>> >> point of cotrrrrrodiction and irrelivant Radio/Comic side. Dodo was
>> >> Dorothea and
>> >> aggitated the Doctor with her rain in spain.Like the so-called
>> >> millenial ones talk.
>> >> Drax prison chatter. Be funny if she was a Speech Therapist.
>> >> That Sarah is a bit of contradiction too.
>> >> It's funny with Fenric, I often laughed playing Arkham City Armored
>> >> seeing "Ace Chemicals."
>> >
>> > Has the Doctor visited the Land of Oz?
>> >
>>
>> I don't even think that the Doctor has visited Australia for an entire
>> episode. This is bizarre. Maybe the koalas are keeping him away?
>>
>
>I meant "Oz" as in "The Wizard of Oz".
Why do you think the Doctor should go to a land dreamt up for the Wizard of
>> >
>> >> Hah, the Doctor being called a "Friend of Dorothy" She was only
>> >> named in the
>> >> point of cotrrrrrodiction and irrelivant Radio/Comic side. Dodo was
>> >> Dorothea and
>> >> aggitated the Doctor with her rain in spain.Like the so-called
>> >> millenial ones talk.
>> >> Drax prison chatter. Be funny if she was a Speech Therapist.
>> >> That Sarah is a bit of contradiction too.
>> >> It's funny with Fenric, I often laughed playing Arkham City Armored
>> >> seeing "Ace Chemicals."
>> >
>> > Has the Doctor visited the Land of Oz?
>> >
>>
>> I don't even think that the Doctor has visited Australia for an entire
>> episode. This is bizarre. Maybe the koalas are keeping him away?
>>
>
>I meant "Oz" as in "The Wizard of Oz".
Oz?
Stephen Wilson
Nov 11, 2015, 1:27:51 PM11/11/15
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"Timothy Bruening" <tsbr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Pudentame
Nov 11, 2015, 1:41:47 PM11/11/15
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not even be BBC crews. It would cost less to contract with a film
company already in the U.S. and give them a list of locations that
need to be filmed.
I'm pretty sure the limiting factor is the cost of taking principal
actors on location. The Impossible Astronaut & Day of the Moon, along
with The Angels Take Manhattan are the only times I know of where they
actually filmed principals in the U.S., and I think those were both
done in conjunction with Comic/Sci-fi conventions of one sort or
another (two birds, one stone, etc).
I'm thinking maybe the cost of bringing the actors & film crew down
under may be the limiting factor so far. But I think it will happen
eventually.
paul.i...@gmail.com
Nov 11, 2015, 2:24:41 PM11/11/15
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On Wednesday, 11 November 2015 09:55:49 UTC, Mike Hall wrote:
> On 11/11/2015 08:04, paul.i...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Mike Hall wrote:
> >
> >> I don't even think that the Doctor has visited Australia for an entire
> >> episode. This is bizarre. Maybe the koalas are keeping him away?
> >
> >
> > He visited Australia in "Enemy of the World".
> >
> Yes. I think he also played alongsde Bradman and there was some
> nonsense with aborigines but no whole Australian episodes.
How is "Enemy of the World" not any whole episodes? Last time I
> On 11/11/2015 08:04, paul.i...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Mike Hall wrote:
> >
> >> I don't even think that the Doctor has visited Australia for an entire
> >> episode. This is bizarre. Maybe the koalas are keeping him away?
> >
> >
> > He visited Australia in "Enemy of the World".
> >
> Yes. I think he also played alongsde Bradman and there was some
> nonsense with aborigines but no whole Australian episodes.
counted, it was six episodes, all of them whole.
TB
Nov 11, 2015, 8:12:42 PM11/11/15
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Mike M
Nov 12, 2015, 1:29:31 AM11/12/15
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phrase for a class of gentleman who were known for really liking Judy
Garland (in the 50s and 60s).
In other words, it was a pickup line for gay men in the days before gay
bars.
--
"In 900 years of time and space, I've never met anyone who wasn't
important."
TB
Nov 12, 2015, 1:36:52 PM11/12/15
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Wouldn't a man who really likes Judy Garland be heterosexual? (Judy looks like a woman's name to me!).
¡Gölök Z.L.F Buday AKA The Black Jester #theblackjester
Nov 15, 2015, 8:46:55 PM11/15/15
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On Mon, 9 Nov 2015 12:08:51 -0800 (PST), in rec.arts.drwho TB <tsbr...@dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
ĄOn Sunday, November 8, 2015 at 7:10:39 PM UTC-8, =A1G=F6l=F6k Z.L.F Buday =
ĄAKA The Black Jester #theblackjester wrote:
Ą
Ą> Hah, the Doctor being called a "Friend of Dorothy" She was only named i=
Ąn the=20
Ą> point of cotrrrrrodiction and irrelivant Radio/Comic side. Dodo was Doro=
Ąthea and=20
Ą> aggitated the Doctor with her rain in spain.Like the so-called millenial =
Ąones talk. =20
Ą> Drax prison chatter. Be funny if she was a Speech Therapist.
Ą> That Sarah is a bit of contradiction too.
Ą> It's funny with Fenric, I often laughed playing Arkham City Armored seein=
Ąg "Ace Chemicals."
Ą
ĄHas the Doctor visited the Land of Oz?
You noticed that too.
ĄOn Sunday, November 8, 2015 at 7:10:39 PM UTC-8, =A1G=F6l=F6k Z.L.F Buday =
ĄAKA The Black Jester #theblackjester wrote:
Ą
Ą> Hah, the Doctor being called a "Friend of Dorothy" She was only named i=
Ąn the=20
Ą> point of cotrrrrrodiction and irrelivant Radio/Comic side. Dodo was Doro=
Ąthea and=20
Ą> aggitated the Doctor with her rain in spain.Like the so-called millenial =
Ąones talk. =20
Ą> Drax prison chatter. Be funny if she was a Speech Therapist.
Ą> That Sarah is a bit of contradiction too.
Ą> It's funny with Fenric, I often laughed playing Arkham City Armored seein=
Ąg "Ace Chemicals."
Ą
ĄHas the Doctor visited the Land of Oz?
You noticed that too.
paul.i...@gmail.com
Nov 17, 2015, 3:25:25 AM11/17/15
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TB asked:
> Wouldn't a man who really likes Judy Garland be
> heterosexual? (Judy looks like a woman's name to me!).
Liking her and being sexually attracted to her are _not_ the same thing.
She appeared in lots of musicals and sang lots of torch songs (especially
Somewhere Over The Rainbow). Gays stereotypically tend to like musicals and
torch songs (especially Somewhere Over The Rainbow).
> Wouldn't a man who really likes Judy Garland be
> heterosexual? (Judy looks like a woman's name to me!).
She appeared in lots of musicals and sang lots of torch songs (especially
Somewhere Over The Rainbow). Gays stereotypically tend to like musicals and
torch songs (especially Somewhere Over The Rainbow).
TB
Nov 17, 2015, 1:15:15 PM11/17/15
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TB
Nov 17, 2015, 1:16:05 PM11/17/15
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On Tuesday, November 17, 2015 at 12:25:25 AM UTC-8, paul.i...@gmail.com wrote:
¡Gölök Z.L.F Buday AKA The Black Jester #theblackjester
Nov 22, 2015, 8:19:05 PM11/22/15
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On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 00:25:23 -0800 (PST), in rec.arts.drwho paul.i...@gmail.com wrote:
ĄTB asked:
Ą
Ą> Wouldn't a man who really likes Judy Garland be
Ą> heterosexual? (Judy looks like a woman's name to me!).
Ą
ĄLiking her and being sexually attracted to her are _not_ the same thing.
Ą
She was an early version of what they called a "fag hag."
ĄTB asked:
Ą
Ą> Wouldn't a man who really likes Judy Garland be
Ą> heterosexual? (Judy looks like a woman's name to me!).
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ĄLiking her and being sexually attracted to her are _not_ the same thing.
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She was an early version of what they called a "fag hag."
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¡Gölök Z.L.F Buday AKA The Black Jester #theblackjester
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On Sun, 22 Nov 2015 22:43:35 -0800 (PST), in rec.arts.drwho TB <tsbr...@dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
ĄOn Sunday, November 22, 2015 at 5:19:05 PM UTC-8, =C2=A1G=C3=B6l=C3=B6k Z.L=
Ą.F Buday AKA The Black Jester #theblackjester wrote:
Ą> On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 00:25:23 -0800 (PST), in rec.arts.drwho paul.ingerson=
Ą@gmail.com wrote:
Ą>=20
Ą> =C4=84TB asked:
Ą> =C4=84
Ą> =C4=84> Wouldn't a man who really likes Judy Garland be
Ą> =C4=84> heterosexual? (Judy looks like a woman's name to me!).
Ą> =C4=84
Ą> =C4=84Liking her and being sexually attracted to her are _not_ the same t=
Ąhing.
Ą> =C4=84
Ą>=20
ĄJudy doesn't look like a hag to me!
Hey I didn't invent that, and ironically the original meaning of fag was a hag or burden, so it may be redundant at one point.
ĄOn Sunday, November 22, 2015 at 5:19:05 PM UTC-8, =C2=A1G=C3=B6l=C3=B6k Z.L=
Ą.F Buday AKA The Black Jester #theblackjester wrote:
Ą> On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 00:25:23 -0800 (PST), in rec.arts.drwho paul.ingerson=
Ą@gmail.com wrote:
Ą>=20
Ą> =C4=84TB asked:
Ą> =C4=84
Ą> =C4=84> Wouldn't a man who really likes Judy Garland be
Ą> =C4=84> heterosexual? (Judy looks like a woman's name to me!).
Ą> =C4=84
Ą> =C4=84Liking her and being sexually attracted to her are _not_ the same t=
Ąhing.
Ą> =C4=84
Ą>=20
Ą> She was an early version of what they called a "fag hag."
Ą
ĄJudy doesn't look like a hag to me!
Hey I didn't invent that, and ironically the original meaning of fag was a hag or burden, so it may be redundant at one point.
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