Traken bodies
Auntie Krizu
I've been thinking... what stops the Ainley Master from having two hearts?
Could Trakenites have two as well? I'm in the process of writing a fanfic
set during Castrovalva, and started thinking of this again. IMO, it would be
reasonable if the Master had went to Traken in search of a fitting body as
well as the Source's power.
If we *don't* count Mark of The Rani as proof that he has two hearts, what
evidence do we have to the contrary--i.e. what could prove that The Master
does *not* have two hearts now? Are Traken bodies automatically human? I'm
hoping the team of carefully picked anoraks can answer/debate this
question...;)
Auntie Krizu(:>)
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If we *don't* count Mark of The Rani as proof that he has two hearts>
When did this happen?
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"Auntie Krizu" <ask.fo...@the.newsgroup> wrote in message
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Traken bodies are not human - they're humanoid. The only humans in the
universe come from planet Earth. If there is life on any other planet, it's
unlikely they would have followed the same evolutionary path as life on this
planet. So any alien life out there is not even going to be humanoid. But
seeing as we've never made contact with life on any other planet, there's no
way we could second guess it. And TV sci fi shows are at an immediate
disadvantage as every actor is human!
Which is all besides the point... One question about the Master though - is
his Trakenite body still 100% Traken, or is there some Time Lord mixed up in
it?
Corey Klemow
Hmmm... I suppose the question is, did Nyssa ever express surprise at the Doctor
having two hearts, or ever say anything to specifically suggest that she didn't?
Hushichan
>Doctor
>having two hearts, or ever say anything to specifically suggest that she
>didn't?
IIRC Nyssa only approached the Doctor's physiognomy with factual, clinical
professionalism, for lack of better term. She didn't seem surprised at all
when monitoring him in Castrovalva or any other times she was called upon to do
so.
As for the Master, why ignore Mark of the Rani for evidence? But if you do
insist, it is possible that the Master could certainly have two hearts even
after assuming Tremas's form. Presumably the 'fish-Master', as my friend calls
him, simply absorbed the life energy of Tremas and his physical appearance to
rejuvenate his own failing body, so the inner workings would probably work the
same, given the tremendous power boost from contact with the Source.
At least, that's my take on it. :) I could be way off. But that's how I
viewed it; the Source's energy revitalised the Master, while taking on Tremas's
youthful form further energized him and enabled him to take a somewhat more
capable and fresh form.
Love!
Phoenix
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Jim Vowles
Having just endured the Dominators, ISTR that mention was made of the
natives of that planet had two hearts....or maybe it was noted that
Jamie had "only one heart".
not sure if that was much help...
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Corey Klemow
> As for the Master, why ignore Mark of the Rani for evidence?
I dunno - what does he say in "Mark of the Rani"? (Haven't seen it since high
school...)
Andrew McCaffrey
> Having just endured the Dominators, ISTR that mention was made of the
> natives of that planet had two hearts....or maybe it was noted that
> Jamie had "only one heart".
Both actually.
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Well except for puppets...
Hushichan
>high
>school...)
>
I believe it's actually a remark by the Rani that indicates that the Master has
two hearts which are functioning normally.
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disadvantage as every actor is human!>
Except for the cats and dogs, of course!
Peter Morris
"Auntie Krizu" <ask.fo...@the.newsgroup> wrote in message
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>
> I've been thinking... what stops the Ainley Master from having two hearts?
> Could Trakenites have two as well? I'm in the process of writing a fanfic
> set during Castrovalva, and started thinking of this again. IMO, it would
be
> reasonable if the Master had went to Traken in search of a fitting body as
> well as the Source's power.
>
and also a name that is an anagram of his own.
Why?
Why?
Why?
Why?
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Jim Vowles
>
> Jim Vowles <alab...@capu.net> wrote:
> > Having just endured the Dominators, ISTR that mention was made of the
> > natives of that planet had two hearts....or maybe it was noted that
> > Jamie had "only one heart".
>
> Both actually.
I'm afraid I had immense trouble staying awake through that one--only
Jamie and the Doctor kept me awake...
Andrew McCaffrey
[The Dominators]
> I'm afraid I had immense trouble staying awake through that one--only
> Jamie and the Doctor kept me awake...
Yeah, but... Yeah, but... Oh dear. I have no excuse for staying awake
all through The Dominators. What's wrong with me?!?!
Dave Roy
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>
>"Auntie Krizu" <ask.fo...@the.newsgroup> wrote in message
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>> Yes, I'm sticking in my spoon to stir the old soup...
>>
>> I've been thinking... what stops the Ainley Master from having two hearts?
>> Could Trakenites have two as well? I'm in the process of writing a fanfic
>> set during Castrovalva, and started thinking of this again. IMO, it would
>be
>> reasonable if the Master had went to Traken in search of a fitting body as
>> well as the Source's power.
>>
>
>
>and also a name that is an anagram of his own.
Silly, that's how he chose him! Did you see the scene where he was
muttering "now, who has a name that's an anagram of mine? Who?
Nyssa? No, not Nyssa. Ah, Tremas!!!!"
Dave Roy
Stephen Wilson
"Peter Morris" <no_sp...@se.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Auntie Krizu" <ask.fo...@the.newsgroup> wrote in message
> news:9miftl$n6f$1...@news.clinet.fi...
> > Yes, I'm sticking in my spoon to stir the old soup...
> >
> > I've been thinking... what stops the Ainley Master from having two
hearts?
> > Could Trakenites have two as well? I'm in the process of writing a
fanfic
> > set during Castrovalva, and started thinking of this again. IMO, it
would
> be
> > reasonable if the Master had went to Traken in search of a fitting body
as
> > well as the Source's power.
> >
>
>
> and also a name that is an anagram of his own.
>
> Why?
> Why?
> Why?
> Why?
Because the Master has an obsession with anagrams (in English of course) of
"the Master". Or names in other Earth languages that also mean "the Master".
Obvious really...
Jim Vowles
>
> Jim Vowles <alab...@capu.net> wrote:
> [The Dominators]
> > I'm afraid I had immense trouble staying awake through that one--only
> > Jamie and the Doctor kept me awake...
>
> Yeah, but... Yeah, but... Oh dear. I have no excuse for staying awake
> all through The Dominators. What's wrong with me?!?!
Too much Mountain Dew, one suspects....
Kroagnon
> > and also a name that is an anagram of his own.
> >
> > Why?
> > Why?
> > Why?
> > Why?
>
> Because the Master has an obsession with anagrams (in English of course)
of
> "the Master". Or names in other Earth languages that also mean "the
Master".
> Obvious really...
Don't forget Sir Gilles Estram...
Not to mention Neil Toynay, James Stoker, and Leon Ny Taiy as "additional"
actors who played Ainley's master. :)
That was clever of the Beeb... I wish shows like Stargate would do things
like that as not to give away characters.
The Doctor
Sir Gilles?? something is odd.
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Anthony Brown
(Auntie Krizu) wrote:
> Yes, I'm sticking in my spoon to stir the old soup...
>
> I've been thinking... what stops the Ainley Master from having two
> hearts?
> Could Trakenites have two as well?
Earthshock part one shows that Trakens (or Nyssa at least) only have one
heart. When the team running the lifeform scanner up on the surface pick
up the Doctor, Nyssa and Tegan, they note that one, and only one, of the
life-forms has two hearts - and that must be the Doctor...
The Stainless Steel Cat
abr...@cix.co.uk (Anthony Brown) wrote:
<silly>
Maybe only male Trakenites have two hearts.
</silly>
<very silly>
All Trakenites have two hearts, but when Nyssa's dad was taken over by the
Master, one of her's broke and never worked again.
</very silly>
<totally bonkers>
In an untelevised story, the Doctor, Tegan and Nyssa meet St. Francis of
Assisi and save him from an attack by a time-travelling Cybermat he was
trying to befriend. Unfortunately, he is injured and needs a heart
transplant. Nyssa obliges by donating her spare one.
Basically, she left her heart in San Fransisco.
</totally bonkers>
Cat.
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Alryssa Kelly
Stainless Steel Cat) wrote:
><totally bonkers>
>In an untelevised story, the Doctor, Tegan and Nyssa meet St. Francis of
>Assisi and save him from an attack by a time-travelling Cybermat he was
>trying to befriend. Unfortunately, he is injured and needs a heart
>transplant. Nyssa obliges by donating her spare one.
>
>Basically, she left her heart in San Fransisco.
></totally bonkers>
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Kroagnon
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> Sir Gilles?? something is odd.
Never seen "King's Demons"?
The Doctor
Since when were Frenchmen knighted in the King's presence?
Peter Morris
"The Stainless Steel Cat" <stee...@mac.comtrousers> wrote in message
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> Basically, she left her heart in San Fransisco.
ROFLMAO
Auntie Krizu
"Alryssa Kelly" <rys...@the-eighth-doctor.communal> kirjoitti viestissä
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> On Sun, 02 Sep 2001 12:16:50 +0100, stee...@mac.comtrousers (The
> Stainless Steel Cat) wrote:
> ><totally bonkers>
> >In an untelevised story, the Doctor, Tegan and Nyssa meet St. Francis of
> >Assisi and save him from an attack by a time-travelling Cybermat he was
> >trying to befriend. Unfortunately, he is injured and needs a heart
> >transplant. Nyssa obliges by donating her spare one.
> >
> >Basically, she left her heart in San Fransisco.
> ></totally bonkers>
>
> GENERAL KRIZU!! Fetch me the spatula, the spork and the vat of
> crunchy frogs!
> :o)
Why a spork, why not a knife?8) Easier for...errrr... derobing8). I've got
the crunchy frogs right here beside the Krunchy Krynoids, which shall we use
first, o Captain Kelly?:)
Auntie Krizu(:>)
Auntie Krizu
"Anthony Brown" <abr...@cix.co.uk> kirjoitti viestissä
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Ah! Thankyouverymuch.... hmm... still makes me think... what sustained the
crispy Master before he took over Tremas? Did he have two hearts or just
one? If he did, did his two hearts transfer inside Tremas' body? We see that
Tremas' hairstyle and full beard are turning more youthful, so wonder what
happened inside the body? It is ridiculous really, I know:0)... a husk of a
man taking over an old man and becoming a middle-aged man:)
Auntie Krizu(:>)
Cardinal Zorak
"Auntie Krizu" <ask.fo...@the.newsgroup> wrote in message
Rejuvenation. Part of him, part of his TARDIS. Without it he couldn't
survive. ;-) ;-) ;-) And the power of the Eye of Harmony he absorbed
before, plus the power of the Source to finish the job (both times he got
about half of what he needed before the metaphorical plug was pulled by
TomDoc) had to convert to something (energy cannot be created or destroyed,
only change its state) so he became younger - time reversal.
Zirk
Auntie Krizu
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>
> "Auntie Krizu" <ask.fo...@the.newsgroup> wrote in message
> news:9n2uk3$lc1$1...@news.clinet.fi...
> > Ah! Thankyouverymuch.... hmm... still makes me think... what sustained
the
> > crispy Master before he took over Tremas? Did he have two hearts or just
> > one? If he did, did his two hearts transfer inside Tremas' body? We see
> that
> > Tremas' hairstyle and full beard are turning more youthful, so wonder
what
> > happened inside the body? It is ridiculous really, I know:0)... a husk
of
> a
> > man taking over an old man and becoming a middle-aged man:)
> >
> > Auntie Krizu(:>)
> >
>
> Rejuvenation. Part of him, part of his TARDIS. Without it he couldn't
> survive. ;-) ;-) ;-) And the power of the Eye of Harmony he absorbed
> before, plus the power of the Source to finish the job (both times he got
> about half of what he needed before the metaphorical plug was pulled by
> TomDoc) had to convert to something (energy cannot be created or
destroyed,
> only change its state) so he became younger - time reversal.
Hm. What do you think of the hearts then?:) Might the Eye of Harmony have
given him a proper double defibrillation?;)
Auntie Krizu(:>)
Carol Hague
> Since when were Frenchmen knighted in the King's presence?
Since the Norman Conquest I'd imagine....
"The King's Demons" is set at a point when the nobility having French
names is quite feasible AFAIK.
Carol Hague
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Alryssa Kelly
<ask.fo...@the.newsgroup> wrote:
>> GENERAL KRIZU!! Fetch me the spatula, the spork and the vat of
>> crunchy frogs!
>> :o)
>
>Why a spork, why not a knife?8) Easier for...errrr... derobing8). I've got
>the crunchy frogs right here beside the Krunchy Krynoids, which shall we use
>first, o Captain Kelly?:)
First up, I say we hit him with a mass leafleting campaign....
Alryssa
The Doctor
Carol Hague <ca...@wrhpv.com> wrote:
>The Doctor <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
>
>
>> Since when were Frenchmen knighted in the King's presence?
>
>Since the Norman Conquest I'd imagine....
>
>"The King's Demons" is set at a point when the nobility having French
>names is quite feasible AFAIK.
>
>Carol Hague
Put Ronald Reagan and George Bush got HONOURARY Knighthoods.
Times do change.
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> - The Brigadier, " The Daemons
>
Auntie Krizu
"Alryssa Kelly" <rys...@the-eighth-doctor.communal> kirjoitti viestissä
> On Tue, 4 Sep 2001 19:17:34 +0300, "Auntie Krizu"
> <ask.fo...@the.newsgroup> wrote:
> >> GENERAL KRIZU!! Fetch me the spatula, the spork and the vat of
> >> crunchy frogs!
> >> :o)
> >
> >Why a spork, why not a knife?8) Easier for...errrr... derobing8). I've
got
> >the crunchy frogs right here beside the Krunchy Krynoids, which shall we
use
> >first, o Captain Kelly?:)
>
> First up, I say we hit him with a mass leafleting campaign....
*grin* Fear not, soon we will have him sucked in to a neverending tour of
conventions. Hope somebody brings photos of him losing his con virginity,
must be a baffling experience;)
Auntie Krizu(:>)
Cardinal Zorak
"Auntie Krizu" <ask.fo...@the.newsgroup> wrote in message
Does it really matter, since he later becomes a
snake/Deathworm/Morphant/whatever, and then a rotting ambulance driver?
Personally, I think he has Tremas' body, but probably an awful lot stronger
or maybe even (gasp) half-human.
Zorak
Auntie Krizu
>
> "Auntie Krizu" <ask.fo...@the.newsgroup> wrote in message
> news:9n3di6$nkr$1...@news.clinet.fi...
> > Hm. What do you think of the hearts then?:) Might the Eye of Harmony
have
> > given him a proper double defibrillation?;)
> >
> > Auntie Krizu(:>)
>
> Does it really matter, since he later becomes a
> snake/Deathworm/Morphant/whatever, and then a rotting ambulance driver?
> Personally, I think he has Tremas' body, but probably an awful lot
stronger
> or maybe even (gasp) half-human.
Heh, for purposes of fanfic it does matter, I'm doing research. But since I
am writing for fun, not profit and under no rules, I can retcon the hell out
of it if it doesn't serve the story:D.
Auntie Krizu(:>)
Phoenix
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> Earthshock part one shows that Trakens (or Nyssa at least) only have one
> heart. When the team running the lifeform scanner up on the surface pick
> up the Doctor, Nyssa and Tegan, they note that one, and only one, of the
> life-forms has two hearts - and that must be the Doctor...
Well, Earthshock part one also doesn't seem to be able to get its story
right. The commander clearly states that the scanner only picks up signs
from alien lifeforms, and yet it picks up the Doctor, Nyssa, AND *TEGAN*!
That doesn't even begin to get into the real problems with the scanner, such
as the fact that it seems to have a bleep just for two hearts (why would it
have such a feature if, as the operator seemed so surprised, it was so
rare?), and then later seems to pick up the life signals of EVERYONE in the
caverns!
I don't think the scanner is really unimpeachable (Glitz: 'Beyond reproach
or question.' Mel: I -know- what unimpeachable means!) as evidence...best
if it's just discarded, unless I missed something on my several viewings of
that particular serial. :)
Love!
Phoenix
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"Phoenix" <hush...@REMOVEhome.com> wrote in message
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> Anthony Brown <abr...@cix.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:memo.20010902...@abrowne.compulink.co.uk...
> > Earthshock part one shows that Trakens (or Nyssa at least) only have one
> > heart. When the team running the lifeform scanner up on the surface pick
> > up the Doctor, Nyssa and Tegan, they note that one, and only one, of the
> > life-forms has two hearts - and that must be the Doctor...
>
> Well, Earthshock part one also doesn't seem to be able to get its story
> right. The commander clearly states that the scanner only picks up signs
> from alien lifeforms, and yet it picks up the Doctor, Nyssa, AND *TEGAN*!
> That doesn't even begin to get into the real problems with the scanner,
such
> as the fact that it seems to have a bleep just for two hearts (why would
it
> have such a feature if, as the operator seemed so surprised, it was so
> rare?), and then later seems to pick up the life signals of EVERYONE in
the
> caverns!
>
> I don't think the scanner is really unimpeachable (Glitz: 'Beyond reproach
> or question.' Mel: I -know- what unimpeachable means!) as evidence...best
> if it's just discarded, unless I missed something on my several viewings
of
> that particular serial. :)
>
> Love!
> Phoenix
You think the scanner has problems. Shall we get into the Cyberscope
continuity discussion? ;-)
Zorak
Phoenix
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> You think the scanner has problems. Shall we get into the Cyberscope
> continuity discussion? ;-)
*LOL*!!! Well, that's true...it is a pretty exceptional piece of equipment.
L. Ross Raszewski
<Fab31...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>You think the scanner has problems. Shall we get into the Cyberscope
>continuity discussion? ;-)
Shrug. Revenge of the Cybermen happens before Earthshock. Problem
solved.
Phoenix
> >continuity discussion? ;-)
>
> Shrug. Revenge of the Cybermen happens before Earthshock. Problem
> solved.
Well, it's not quite so simple as that...it's repeatedly alluded to that the
Cybermen in Revenge are the last of their kind, whilst the ones in
Earthshock aren't. The ones in Attack did have some rudimentary knowledge
of time travel, but the ones in Earthshock didn't. So that makes it a
somewhat complicated issue.
Still, it's not entirely certain when the stories in question happened.
It's sensible that Revenge may have occurred in a time before Earthshock,
although it's questionable why the three stories that are viewed on the
scope are The Tenth Planet, The Wheel in Space, and Revenge of the
Cybermen...
But you're right. We could be overanalysing it. :) But that doesn't change
that there was a definite problem with that damned scanner. ;)
Cardinal Zorak
"Phoenix" <hush...@REMOVEhome.com> wrote in message
> > >You think the scanner has problems. Shall we get into the Cyberscope
> > >continuity discussion? ;-)
> >
> > Shrug. Revenge of the Cybermen happens before Earthshock. Problem
> > solved.
>
> Well, it's not quite so simple as that...it's repeatedly alluded to that
the
> Cybermen in Revenge are the last of their kind, whilst the ones in
> Earthshock aren't. The ones in Attack did have some rudimentary knowledge
> of time travel, but the ones in Earthshock didn't. So that makes it a
> somewhat complicated issue.
>
(not having happened yet in Earthshock, set in 2526, just about 40 years
after the Cybertombs were opened (DavisonDoc refers to the tombs too) but
maybe just about to happen) and set aboard a new beacon built in the 29th
century (YomDoc's dialogue about Nerva's age)!!
So: Earthshock = 2526 AD
Revenge = 2900AD appprox.
Of course it is all explained by Attack giving tyhe cybes time travel - that
also explains why the 1988 Cyberfleet in Nemesis had the most advanced
design!
Zorak
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"Carol Hague" <carol...@bigwig.net> wrote in message
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> The Doctor <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
>
>
> > Since when were Frenchmen knighted in the King's presence?
>
First off, there was no other way to *be* knighted than in the King's
presence, obviously since he does the knighting!
> Since the Norman Conquest I'd imagine....
>
> "The King's Demons" is set at a point when the nobility having French
> names is quite feasible AFAIK.
>
> Carol Hague
Not only feasible, but likely and indeed common. And remember, the Doctor
is thought to come from Aquitaine - we see him knighted.
Zorak
mlauenstein
> > >You think the scanner has problems. Shall we get into the Cyberscope
> > >continuity discussion? ;-)
> >
> > Shrug. Revenge of the Cybermen happens before Earthshock. Problem
> > solved.
>
> Well, it's not quite so simple as that...it's repeatedly alluded to that the
> Cybermen in Revenge are the last of their kind, whilst the ones in
> Earthshock aren't. The ones in Attack did have some rudimentary knowledge
> of time travel, but the ones in Earthshock didn't. So that makes it a
> somewhat complicated issue.
>
> Still, it's not entirely certain when the stories in question happened.
> It's sensible that Revenge may have occurred in a time before Earthshock,
> although it's questionable why the three stories that are viewed on the
> scope are The Tenth Planet, The Wheel in Space, and Revenge of the
> Cybermen...
>
> But you're right. We could be overanalysing it. :) But that doesn't change
> that there was a definite problem with that damned scanner. ;)
>
Let's just have them fix it on the DVD release. Replace the Revenge
scene with one from Nemesis and everybody's happy.
Misha
L. Ross Raszewski
>
>Let's just have them fix it on the DVD release. Replace the Revenge
>scene with one from Nemesis and everybody's happy.
>
>Misha
Eeagh! But the cybermen from Nemesis are clearly leftovers from
'Attack', and therefore frm the *future* of those in Earthshock!
Joxer
Raszewski) sallied forth:
You know, I was *sorely* misled by this thread title... want Nyssaflesh
NOW!
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Grrr. Arrgh.
mlauenstein
By 'clearly' you undoubtedly mean some definition of 'clearly' that
neither I nor Lance Parkin are aware of.
This is, of course, assuming I am not mis-remembering something Lance
wrote in History of the Universe, in which case, please mentally
excise his name from the previous witticism.
Misha
"Anything for a weird life."
Zaphod Beeblebrox
Timelord
"Joxer" <joxe...@softhome.net> wrote in message
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Dont we all.......dont we all..........Droooooooool.