More casting announced
Stuart Burns
recurring character.
Information here: http://www.newwhoforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=101
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"Stuart Burns" <stuart...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Bruno Langley (ex of Coronation Street) will be playing yet another
> recurring character.
>
> Information here: http://www.newwhoforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=101
For those who know who Ant and Dec are I can only say:
"Todd-o... Todd-o... Todd-o"
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Solar Penguin
--- Stuart Burns said:
> Bruno Langley (ex of Coronation Street) will be playing yet another
> recurring character.
>
Another recurring character!?! Do we really need more? It's going to
be as bad as the Pertwee era!!!
Stuart Burns
<solar....@tiscali.co.uk> said:
The Pertwee era bad? Are you insane? :)
Solar Penguin
--- Stuart Burns said:
>
> The Pertwee era bad? Are you insane? :)
>
Oh, come on. The Pertwee era should be right down there with the McCoy
era as one of the all-time worst eras of DW. There's nothing worth
defending about either of them!
Ian Moore
> recurring character.
>
> Information here: http://www.newwhoforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=101
According to Outpost Gallifrey
"Bruno Langley, who played gay teenager Todd Grimshaw on the
long-running ITV soap "Coronation Street,""
It's a conspiracy I tells ya!!! ;o)
Steve Freestone
wrote:
>"Bruno Langley, who played gay teenager Todd Grimshaw on the
>long-running ITV soap "Coronation Street,""
But he wasnt gay though, was he. Just Hotel/Motel. He plays for
Manchester United and Manchester City. Denis Law. Sorry Denis.
Stuart Burns
<solar....@tiscali.co.uk> said:
In your humble opinion, of course!
The Doctor
Stuart Burns <stuart...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>On 2004-10-08 11:34:59 +0100, "Solar Penguin"
><solar....@tiscali.co.uk> said:
>
>>
>> --- Stuart Burns said:
>>>
>>> The Pertwee era bad? Are you insane? :)
>>>
>>
>> Oh, come on. The Pertwee era should be right down there with the McCoy
>> era as one of the all-time worst eras of DW. There's nothing worth
>> defending about either of them!
>
>In your humble opinion, of course!
>
SP is a Flaming Troller!
Solar Penguin
--- Stuart Burns said:
>
> In your humble opinion, of course!
>
Except, of course, that as I'm not really a DW fan, I'm able to stand
back and look at the show objectively -- something that most fans are
unable to do. You'll find that my opinion is more accurate than most.
Luke Curtis
<stuart...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>On 2004-10-08 11:34:59 +0100, "Solar Penguin"
><solar....@tiscali.co.uk> said:
>
>>
>> --- Stuart Burns said:
>>>
>>> The Pertwee era bad? Are you insane? :)
>>>
>>
>> Oh, come on. The Pertwee era should be right down there with the McCoy
>> era as one of the all-time worst eras of DW. There's nothing worth
>> defending about either of them!
>
>In your humble opinion, of course!
In the 30th anniversary DWM poll the Pertwee era only 2 stories in the
top 20 & 8 in the 21-50 range
If you take off the Sherwin era of season 7 then the Lets era fairs
very poorly with only 6 out of 22 stories get in the top 50, and only
1 in the top 20 (The Deamons at 14)
2 stories did not get one single vote out of the 2800 votes cast,
hardly a era of sustained brilliance is it?
(unlike the Hinchcliffe era for instance - 6 out of the top 12 are all
Hinchcliffe/Holmes out of only 17)
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> Except, of course, that as I'm not really a DW fan, I'm able to stand
> back and look at the show objectively [...]
You spend hours and hours in a Doctor Who group talking on and on about a
show that you don't like. "Objective" isn't the first word that springs
to mind about such behavior...
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> Except, of course, that as I'm not really a DW fan, I'm able to stand
> back and look at the show objectively -- something that most fans are
> unable to do. You'll find that my opinion is more accurate than most.
You've posted more than 600 messages to Doctor Who newsgroups. Either
you're a Doctor Who fan, or you have *far* too much time on your hands.
And anyway, the independence of an observer does not make his or her
opinions more "accurate"; it merely means that they arise from a different
perspective.
Shannon
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<REMOVEfe...@qis.net> wrote:
>Solar Penguin <solar....@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>>> In your humble opinion, of course!
>>>
>
>> Except, of course, that as I'm not really a DW fan, I'm able to stand
>> back and look at the show objectively [...]
>
>You spend hours and hours in a Doctor Who group talking on and on about a
>show that you don't like. "Objective" isn't the first word that springs
>to mind about such behavior...
Yeah, agreed, 'raving homo fagg queer with a penchant for
shit-shoving' is more appropriate. Glad to see that you and I are on
similar wavelengths here.
Fett
>Date: 10/8/2004 6:34 AM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <2sn8svF...@uni-berlin.de>
The Pertwee era has some terrific stuff in it and was always fun. It's a
million times better than the McCrap era.
-Fett
Fett
>Date: 10/9/2004 3:41 PM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <ck9eu1$282$1...@coranto.ucs.mun.ca>
>
>Long ago in an English winter, Solar Penguin said:
>> Except, of course, that as I'm not really a DW fan, I'm able to stand
>> back and look at the show objectively -- something that most fans are
>> unable to do. You'll find that my opinion is more accurate than most.
>
>You've posted more than 600 messages to Doctor Who newsgroups. Either
>you're a Doctor Who fan, or you have *far* too much time on your hands.
>
>And anyway, the independence of an observer does not make his or her
>opinions more "accurate"; it merely means that they arise from a different
>perspective.
Well said.
-Fett
Fett
>Date: 10/9/2004 1:05 PM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <lg5gm0tb1il0niiff...@4ax.com>
>
>On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 15:58:59 GMT, Stuart Burns
><stuart...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>On 2004-10-08 11:34:59 +0100, "Solar Penguin"
>><solar....@tiscali.co.uk> said:
>>
>>>
>>> --- Stuart Burns said:
>>>>
>>>> The Pertwee era bad? Are you insane? :)
>>>>
>>>
>>> Oh, come on. The Pertwee era should be right down there with the McCoy
>>> era as one of the all-time worst eras of DW. There's nothing worth
>>> defending about either of them!
>>
>>In your humble opinion, of course!
>
>In the 30th anniversary DWM poll the Pertwee era only 2 stories in the
>top 20 & 8 in the 21-50 range
>
>If you take off the Sherwin era of season 7 then the Lets era fairs
>very poorly with only 6 out of 22 stories get in the top 50, and only
>1 in the top 20 (The Deamons at 14)
>
>2 stories did not get one single vote out of the 2800 votes cast,
>hardly a era of sustained brilliance is it?
>
>(unlike the Hinchcliffe era for instance - 6 out of the top 12 are all
>Hinchcliffe/Holmes out of only 17)
>
A poll made of up mostly of people who weren't completely turned off by the
McCoy era. Not exactly a fair sampling.
-Fett
The Doctor
Solar Penguin
--- Shannon Patrick Sullivan said:
>
> And anyway, the independence of an observer does not make his or her
> opinions more "accurate"; it merely means that they arise from a
different
> perspective.
>
Ok, Ok, you keep on believing that if it makes you happy. After all,
you wouldn't want to upset all your preconceived little fan-based ideas
with even a possibility of the truth, now. Would you?
gclap...@cix.compulink.co.uk
mfl...@dsl.pipex.com (Luke Curtis) wrote:
> 2 stories did not get one single vote out of the 2800 votes cast,
> hardly a era of sustained brilliance is it?
But the idea was to entertain people watching at the time. It did so,
brilliantly, and was a big success - I was at school in those days, I know
these things. Sure, a lot of it looks creaky some 30 years later but then
so do I...
Ian Moore
He was both an Imperial, and a Rebel Dalek!
John Long
"Solar Penguin"
> Ok, Ok, you keep on believing that if it makes you happy. After all,
> you wouldn't want to upset all your preconceived little fan-based ideas
> with even a possibility of the truth, now. Would you?
If you say you're not a DW fan, you're only lying to yourself.
JL
Sean Huxter
All by itself.
I really doubt you're going to get any major agreement on your stance.
Sean.
"Solar Penguin" <solar....@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
news:2sn8svF...@uni-berlin.de...
Sean Huxter
You are a fan.
Otherwise you wouldn't be posting here.
PERIOD.
Me, I admit I'm a fan. I'm not the greatest fan of Pertwee because I started
watching during the Baker era, but a fan of Doctor Who in general
nonetheless.
What am I NOT a fan of? Pro Wrestling.
So I don't go to Pro Wrestling newsgroups and have discussions with fans of
Pro Wrestling.
You, on the other hand, DO come here and talk about Doctor Who.
This makes you a fan, no matter how much denial you may like to wallow in.
Sean.
"Solar Penguin" <solar....@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
news:2spipqF...@uni-berlin.de...
Solar Penguin
--- Sean Huxter said:
> Haven't we been round this particular roundabout once or
> twice before?
>
> You are a fan.
>
> Otherwise you wouldn't be posting here.
At least half the posters on alt.atheism are Christian Fundamentalists
trying to convert the atheists.
By your logic, these Christians must all be atheists themselves
otherwise they wouldn't be posting to an atheist newsgroup.
Spot the flaw in your argument?
Daleks conquer and Destroy (we shall get our Power)
being a fan of the show, or at least starting to be a fan of the show.
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difference in between discussing something like religion or politics
as opposed to discussing a tv show. fans tend to gather to talk about
a tv show, in terms of religion or politics people on both sides of
the fence gather to debate it.
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Alan G McWhan
So what are you trying to convert us to?
Spot the flaw in your argument?
;o)
Solar Penguin
--- Alan G McWhan said:
>
> So what are you trying to convert us to?
>
> Spot the flaw in your argument?
>
I never *claimed* to be trying to convert anybody to anything. That was
just another *example* of how people can enjoy debating and discussing
something without actually being a fan of the thing in question.
Danny Lawhore
I personally think that Solar Penguin protesteth too much. He is probably
embarassed by his fannish interest in Who, and tries to distance himself
accordingly. Or he isn't aware of his fan status, but judging by his
behaviour, the fruits as it were, fan-status has to be acknowledged. SP
may not like every DW story or even the majority of DW stories, but SP
needs to be honest and own up to reality for his own sake.
Solar Penguin
--- Danny Lawhore said:
> SP may not like every DW story or even the majority
> of DW stories
True, I *don't* like the majority of DW stories. In fact, the number of
DW stories that I like could be counted on one hand. Since being a fan
of something normally involves liking the thing, wouldn't that imply
that I'm not a fan? Or is DW some kind of magical exception to this
general rule?
> but judging by his behaviour, the fruits as it were,
> fan-status has to be acknowledged.
That's *hir* behaviour. I'm an androgyne, remember.
Anyway, my behaviour is changing, evolving all the time. I joined radw
five years ago when I thought my nostalgic interest in DW videos meant I
*might* be a fan, and so I wanted to find out more about the show.
Based on what I saw, I tired some DW novels, and found them
disappointing. I tried some BFAs and found them disappointing. And I
bought more videos/DVDs, and found them disappointing.
I also found it disappointing to hear that the BBC were making new
series of DW instead of something worth watching. And if I could be
bothered to watch the new series, I'd probably find that disappointing
too. Stripped of the nostalgic novelty, there's very little of interest
in DW for me.
Still, like I keep saying, you won't have to put up with me much longer.
Once the new series starts, I'll probably be leaving DW, and these
groups, behind for good. I've already started searching out other old
series to supply me with nostalgia. I recently bought a boxset of six
episodes of RoS. Three were quite good and three were crap, and a 50%
success rate is better than DW ever managed! So, I've joined a few RoS
Yahoo groups to find out more about that show. So, does that mean I'm
an RoS fan now..?
Daleks conquer and Destroy (we shall get our Power)
<solar....@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>
>--- Danny Lawhore said:
>
>> SP may not like every DW story or even the majority
>> of DW stories
>
>True, I *don't* like the majority of DW stories. In fact, the number of
>DW stories that I like could be counted on one hand. Since being a fan
>of something normally involves liking the thing, wouldn't that imply
>that I'm not a fan? Or is DW some kind of magical exception to this
>general rule?
>
i think many fans may come under that general rule. anyway i do not
know why you hang around here if you do not like the show.