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The Last Doctor
Jun 22, 2021, 5:49:40 PM6/22/21
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My wager:
There will be no retcon.
Series 13 will not air until 2022, opening on New Years Day again.
Jodie will not regenerate in Series 13.
There will be a seasonal special (Christmas/New Year) at the end of 2022.
Jodie will not regenerate during that special.
There will be no series in 2023. A new Doctor, however, will be announced
late in 2022 or early in 2023.
There will be a 60th Anniversary multi-Doctor special, possibly in two
parts, in late November 2023.
Jodie will regenerate into the 14th Doctor, who will be a “person of
colour” and probably another woman, at a “surprise” moment during this
special.
Series 14, with the 14th Doctor, will start on New Years Day 2024.
--
There are some corners of the universe
which have bred the most terrible things.
Things which act against everything we believe in.
They must be /fought/.
tsbru...@gmail.com
Jun 22, 2021, 5:56:01 PM6/22/21
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2210 On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 2:49:40 PM UTC-7, The Last Doctor wrote:
> My wager:
>
> There will be no retcon.
>
> Series 13 will not air until 2022, opening on New Years Day again.
>
> Jodie will not regenerate in Series 13.
>
> There will be a seasonal special (Christmas/New Year) at the end of 2022.
>
> Jodie will not regenerate during that special.
>
> There will be no series in 2023. A new Doctor, however, will be announced
> late in 2022 or early in 2023.
>
> There will be a 60th Anniversary multi-Doctor special, possibly in two
> parts, in late November 2023.
>
> Jodie will regenerate into the 14th Doctor, who will be a “person of
> colour” and probably another woman, at a “surprise” moment during this
> special.
>
> Series 14, with the 14th Doctor, will start on New Years Day 2024.
Will we see the Doctor's true homeworld?
> My wager:
>
> There will be no retcon.
>
> Series 13 will not air until 2022, opening on New Years Day again.
>
> Jodie will not regenerate in Series 13.
>
> There will be a seasonal special (Christmas/New Year) at the end of 2022.
>
> Jodie will not regenerate during that special.
>
> There will be no series in 2023. A new Doctor, however, will be announced
> late in 2022 or early in 2023.
>
> There will be a 60th Anniversary multi-Doctor special, possibly in two
> parts, in late November 2023.
>
> Jodie will regenerate into the 14th Doctor, who will be a “person of
> colour” and probably another woman, at a “surprise” moment during this
> special.
>
> Series 14, with the 14th Doctor, will start on New Years Day 2024.
The Doctor
Jun 22, 2021, 7:34:18 PM6/22/21
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In article <satlti$4gp$1...@dont-email.me>,
>--
>There are some corners of the universe
> which have bred the most terrible things.
>Things which act against everything we believe in.
>
>They must be /fought/.
--
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The Last Doctor <mi...@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>
>My wager:
>
>There will be no retcon.
>
>Series 13 will not air until 2022, opening on New Years Day again.
>
>Jodie will not regenerate in Series 13.
>
>There will be a seasonal special (Christmas/New Year) at the end of 2022.
>
>Jodie will not regenerate during that special.
>
>There will be no series in 2023. A new Doctor, however, will be announced
>late in 2022 or early in 2023.
>
>There will be a 60th Anniversary multi-Doctor special, possibly in two
>parts, in late November 2023.
>
>Jodie will regenerate into the 14th Doctor, who will be a “person of
>colour” and probably another woman, at a “surprise” moment during this
>special.
>
>Series 14, with the 14th Doctor, will start on New Years Day 2024.
>
where is the betting house?
>
>My wager:
>
>There will be no retcon.
>
>Series 13 will not air until 2022, opening on New Years Day again.
>
>Jodie will not regenerate in Series 13.
>
>There will be a seasonal special (Christmas/New Year) at the end of 2022.
>
>Jodie will not regenerate during that special.
>
>There will be no series in 2023. A new Doctor, however, will be announced
>late in 2022 or early in 2023.
>
>There will be a 60th Anniversary multi-Doctor special, possibly in two
>parts, in late November 2023.
>
>Jodie will regenerate into the 14th Doctor, who will be a “person of
>colour” and probably another woman, at a “surprise” moment during this
>special.
>
>Series 14, with the 14th Doctor, will start on New Years Day 2024.
>
>--
>There are some corners of the universe
> which have bred the most terrible things.
>Things which act against everything we believe in.
>
>They must be /fought/.
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The Doctor
Jun 22, 2021, 7:34:32 PM6/22/21
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Blueshirt
Jun 23, 2021, 2:41:02 AM6/23/21
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On 23/06/2021 00:34, The Doctor wrote:
> In article <satlti$4gp$1...@dont-email.me>,
> The Last Doctor <mi...@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>>
>> My wager:
>>
>> There will be no retcon.
>>
>> Series 13 will not air until 2022, opening on New Years Day again.
>>
>> Jodie will not regenerate in Series 13.
>>
>> There will be a seasonal special (Christmas/New Year) at the end of 2022.
>>
>> Jodie will not regenerate during that special.
>>
>> There will be no series in 2023. A new Doctor, however, will be announced
>> late in 2022 or early in 2023.
>>
>> There will be a 60th Anniversary multi-Doctor special, possibly in two
>> parts, in late November 2023.
>>
>> Jodie will regenerate into the 14th Doctor, who will be a “person of
>> colour” and probably another woman, at a “surprise” moment during this
>> special.
>>
>> Series 14, with the 14th Doctor, will start on New Years Day 2024.
>
> where is the betting house?
It doesn't matter, as your guess (a whole era of the show being
> In article <satlti$4gp$1...@dont-email.me>,
> The Last Doctor <mi...@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>>
>> My wager:
>>
>> There will be no retcon.
>>
>> Series 13 will not air until 2022, opening on New Years Day again.
>>
>> Jodie will not regenerate in Series 13.
>>
>> There will be a seasonal special (Christmas/New Year) at the end of 2022.
>>
>> Jodie will not regenerate during that special.
>>
>> There will be no series in 2023. A new Doctor, however, will be announced
>> late in 2022 or early in 2023.
>>
>> There will be a 60th Anniversary multi-Doctor special, possibly in two
>> parts, in late November 2023.
>>
>> Jodie will regenerate into the 14th Doctor, who will be a “person of
>> colour” and probably another woman, at a “surprise” moment during this
>> special.
>>
>> Series 14, with the 14th Doctor, will start on New Years Day 2024.
>
> where is the betting house?
cancelled and reset) would lose! :-)
The Last Doctor
Jun 23, 2021, 4:02:53 AM6/23/21
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speculating on the shape of the series over the next couple of years.
--
There are some corners of the universe which have bred the most terrible
things. Things which act against everything we believe in. They must be
The Doctor
Jun 23, 2021, 3:32:03 PM6/23/21
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The Doctor
Jun 23, 2021, 3:33:21 PM6/23/21
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In article <sauprc$uv0$1...@dont-email.me>,
>--
>There are some corners of the universe which have bred the most terrible
>things. Things which act against everything we believe in. They must be
>fought.
The Last Doctor <mi...@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>On 22/06/2021 22:55, tsbru...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 2210 On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 2:49:40 PM UTC-7, The Last Doctor wrote:
>>> My wager:
>>>
>>> There will be no retcon.
>>>
>>> Series 13 will not air until 2022, opening on New Years Day again.
>>>
>>> Jodie will not regenerate in Series 13.
>>>
>>> There will be a seasonal special (Christmas/New Year) at the end of 2022.
>>>
>>> Jodie will not regenerate during that special.
>>>
>>> There will be no series in 2023. A new Doctor, however, will be announced
>>> late in 2022 or early in 2023.
>>>
>>> There will be a 60th Anniversary multi-Doctor special, possibly in two
>>> parts, in late November 2023.
>>>
>>> Jodie will regenerate into the 14th Doctor, who will be a “person of
>>> colour” and probably another woman, at a “surprise” moment during this
>>> special.
>>>
>>> Series 14, with the 14th Doctor, will start on New Years Day 2024.
>>
>> Will we see the Doctor's true homeworld?
>>
>
>No idea Tim. This post isn't speculating on the stories, it's
>speculating on the shape of the series over the next couple of years.
>
MM and TBr - 2 peas in a pod.
>> 2210 On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 2:49:40 PM UTC-7, The Last Doctor wrote:
>>> My wager:
>>>
>>> There will be no retcon.
>>>
>>> Series 13 will not air until 2022, opening on New Years Day again.
>>>
>>> Jodie will not regenerate in Series 13.
>>>
>>> There will be a seasonal special (Christmas/New Year) at the end of 2022.
>>>
>>> Jodie will not regenerate during that special.
>>>
>>> There will be no series in 2023. A new Doctor, however, will be announced
>>> late in 2022 or early in 2023.
>>>
>>> There will be a 60th Anniversary multi-Doctor special, possibly in two
>>> parts, in late November 2023.
>>>
>>> Jodie will regenerate into the 14th Doctor, who will be a “person of
>>> colour” and probably another woman, at a “surprise” moment during this
>>> special.
>>>
>>> Series 14, with the 14th Doctor, will start on New Years Day 2024.
>>
>> Will we see the Doctor's true homeworld?
>>
>
>No idea Tim. This post isn't speculating on the stories, it's
>speculating on the shape of the series over the next couple of years.
>
>--
>There are some corners of the universe which have bred the most terrible
>things. Things which act against everything we believe in. They must be
>fought.
tsbru...@gmail.com
Sep 17, 2021, 4:58:55 AM9/17/21
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2210 On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 2:49:40 PM UTC-7, The Last Doctor wrote:
> My wager:
>
> There will be no retcon.
>
> Series 13 will not air until 2022, opening on New Years Day again.
I have been seeing teasers indicating that S13 will be this year!
>
> There will be no retcon.
>
> Series 13 will not air until 2022, opening on New Years Day again.
Blueshirt
Sep 17, 2021, 5:20:05 AM9/17/21
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2021" was mentioned by the BBC in a press release around the time the
teasers started. Although the BBC have given no actual start date. So
later in 2021 could be anything from October 1st - Dec 31st... I'll
split the difference and say November!
The Doctor
Sep 17, 2021, 8:50:56 AM9/17/21
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In article <fcc6e3cb-a830-4d2c...@googlegroups.com>,
Same here for 2021!
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The Doctor
Sep 17, 2021, 8:53:47 AM9/17/21
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The True Doctor
Sep 17, 2021, 10:56:38 PM9/17/21
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On 22/06/2021 22:49, The Last Doctor wrote:
>
> My wager:
>
> There will be no retcon.
Then Doctor Who will stay dead.
>
> My wager:
>
> There will be no retcon.
>
> Series 13 will not air until 2022, opening on New Years Day again.
>
> Jodie will not regenerate in Series 13.
>
> There will be a seasonal special (Christmas/New Year) at the end of 2022.
>
will be aired either side of Christmas.
> Jodie will not regenerate during that special.
>
> There will be no series in 2023. A new Doctor, however, will be announced
> late in 2022 or early in 2023.
Jodie Whittaker is not the Doctor.
>
> There will be a 60th Anniversary multi-Doctor special, possibly in two
> parts, in late November 2023.
cancelled long before that.
> Jodie will regenerate into the 14th Doctor, who will be a “person of
> colour” and probably another woman, at a “surprise” moment during this
> special.
blue giant tree people from Pandora, or into a green Orion slave girl?
Maybe she can regenerate into a ginger cat instead and get some viewers
back from YouTube and TikTok?
>
> Series 14, with the 14th Doctor, will start on New Years Day 2024.
>
So, let's figure out how to revive Doctor Who from the dead.
--
The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it
stands for." -William Shatner
The True Doctor
Sep 17, 2021, 10:58:54 PM9/17/21
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series would have ended.
The Doctor
Sep 17, 2021, 11:45:28 PM9/17/21
to
In article <Dt6dnQH4NYn5yNj8...@brightview.co.uk>,
>>
>> Series 13 will not air until 2022, opening on New Years Day again.
>>
>
>We've been told that Series 3 of The Timeless Child will air in 2021
>
Waiting for ads!
>> Jodie will not regenerate in Series 13.
>>
>
>There is no Series 13. Doctor Who ended in 2017 during Series 10.
>
Right on!
>> There will be a seasonal special (Christmas/New Year) at the end of 2022.
>>
>
>There will be no seasonal special. The 3rd series of The Timeless Child
>will be aired either side of Christmas.
>
Either?
>> Jodie will not regenerate during that special.
>>
>
>Because there won't be one.
>
WEll ...
>> There will be no series in 2023. A new Doctor, however, will be announced
>> late in 2022 or early in 2023.
>
>No new Doctor will be announced because the Timeless Child played by
>Jodie Whittaker is not the Doctor.
>
Spot on!
>>
>> There will be a 60th Anniversary multi-Doctor special, possibly in two
>> parts, in late November 2023.
>
>The show formerly known as Doctor Who will have been officially
>cancelled long before that.
>
Or shelved unless the Timeless Child is retconned!
>> Jodie will regenerate into the 14th Doctor, who will be a “person of
>
>No she won't, because she's not the Doctor.
>
Hear! Hear!!
>> colour” and probably another woman, at a “surprise” moment during this
>> special.
>
>"A person of colour"? You mean she will regenerate into one of those
>blue giant tree people from Pandora, or into a green Orion slave girl?
>
>Maybe she can regenerate into a ginger cat instead and get some viewers
>back from YouTube and TikTok?
>
:-)
>>
>> Series 14, with the 14th Doctor, will start on New Years Day 2024.
>>
>
>There won't be a Series 14 unless there's a retcon.
>
>So, let's figure out how to revive Doctor Who from the dead.
>
>
Easy ! Go back to Twice Upon a Time and then correct
the sequence!
>
>
>--
>The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
>
>"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it
>stands for." -William Shatner
The True Doctor <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>On 22/06/2021 22:49, The Last Doctor wrote:
>>
>> My wager:
>>
>> There will be no retcon.
>
>Then Doctor Who will stay dead.
>
Yes Sir!
>On 22/06/2021 22:49, The Last Doctor wrote:
>>
>> My wager:
>>
>> There will be no retcon.
>
>Then Doctor Who will stay dead.
>
>>
>> Series 13 will not air until 2022, opening on New Years Day again.
>>
>
>We've been told that Series 3 of The Timeless Child will air in 2021
>
>> Jodie will not regenerate in Series 13.
>>
>
>There is no Series 13. Doctor Who ended in 2017 during Series 10.
>
>> There will be a seasonal special (Christmas/New Year) at the end of 2022.
>>
>
>There will be no seasonal special. The 3rd series of The Timeless Child
>will be aired either side of Christmas.
>
>> Jodie will not regenerate during that special.
>>
>
>Because there won't be one.
>
>> There will be no series in 2023. A new Doctor, however, will be announced
>> late in 2022 or early in 2023.
>
>No new Doctor will be announced because the Timeless Child played by
>Jodie Whittaker is not the Doctor.
>
>>
>> There will be a 60th Anniversary multi-Doctor special, possibly in two
>> parts, in late November 2023.
>
>The show formerly known as Doctor Who will have been officially
>cancelled long before that.
>
>> Jodie will regenerate into the 14th Doctor, who will be a “person of
>
>No she won't, because she's not the Doctor.
>
>> colour” and probably another woman, at a “surprise” moment during this
>> special.
>
>"A person of colour"? You mean she will regenerate into one of those
>blue giant tree people from Pandora, or into a green Orion slave girl?
>
>Maybe she can regenerate into a ginger cat instead and get some viewers
>back from YouTube and TikTok?
>
>>
>> Series 14, with the 14th Doctor, will start on New Years Day 2024.
>>
>
>There won't be a Series 14 unless there's a retcon.
>
>So, let's figure out how to revive Doctor Who from the dead.
>
>
the sequence!
>
>
>--
>The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
>
>"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it
>stands for." -William Shatner
The Doctor
Sep 17, 2021, 11:46:04 PM9/17/21
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In article <Dt6dnQD4NYlwyNj8...@brightview.co.uk>,
I wonder if BS will continue!
>
>--
>The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
>
>"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it
>stands for." -William Shatner
The True Doctor <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>
>--
>The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
>
>"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it
>stands for." -William Shatner
--
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Blueshirt
Sep 18, 2021, 7:26:25 AM9/18/21
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On 18/09/2021 03:58, The True Doctor wrote:
> On 23/06/2021 07:41, Blueshirt wrote:
>>
>> It doesn't matter, as your guess (a whole era of the show being
>> cancelled and reset) would lose! :-)
>
> It was successfully done with Dallas. If it hadn't been done then the
> series would have ended.
It won't be done with Doctor Who... anyone thinking the BBC are going to
> On 23/06/2021 07:41, Blueshirt wrote:
>>
>> It doesn't matter, as your guess (a whole era of the show being
>> cancelled and reset) would lose! :-)
>
> It was successfully done with Dallas. If it hadn't been done then the
> series would have ended.
accept that they made a mistake in casting Jodie Whittaker as The Doctor
and will go back to Capaldi regenerating in to a male 13th Doctor is
simply *DELUSIONAL* and they need to get a grip on reality.
The next Doctor will be #14. The only question is will they go for a man
or another woman.
Blueshirt
Sep 18, 2021, 7:26:58 AM9/18/21
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On 18/09/2021 04:46, The Doctor wrote:
> In article <Dt6dnQD4NYlwyNj8...@brightview.co.uk>,
> The True Doctor <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>> On 23/06/2021 07:41, Blueshirt wrote:
>>> On 23/06/2021 00:34, The Doctor wrote:
>>>>
>>>> where is the betting house?
>>>
>>> It doesn't matter, as your guess (a whole era of the show being
>>> cancelled and reset) would lose! :-)
>>
>> It was successfully done with Dallas. If it hadn't been done then the
>> series would have ended.
>
> I wonder if BS will continue!
Your BS certainly continues!
> In article <Dt6dnQD4NYlwyNj8...@brightview.co.uk>,
> The True Doctor <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>> On 23/06/2021 07:41, Blueshirt wrote:
>>> On 23/06/2021 00:34, The Doctor wrote:
>>>>
>>>> where is the betting house?
>>>
>>> It doesn't matter, as your guess (a whole era of the show being
>>> cancelled and reset) would lose! :-)
>>
>> It was successfully done with Dallas. If it hadn't been done then the
>> series would have ended.
>
> I wonder if BS will continue!
The Doctor
Sep 18, 2021, 8:09:08 AM9/18/21
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The Doctor
Sep 18, 2021, 8:11:20 AM9/18/21
to
The True Doctor
Sep 18, 2021, 11:08:58 AM9/18/21
to
On 18/09/2021 12:26, Blueshirt wrote:
> On 18/09/2021 03:58, The True Doctor wrote:
>> On 23/06/2021 07:41, Blueshirt wrote:
>>>
>>> It doesn't matter, as your guess (a whole era of the show being
>>> cancelled and reset) would lose! :-)
>>
>> It was successfully done with Dallas. If it hadn't been done then the
>> series would have ended.
>
> It won't be done with Doctor Who... anyone thinking the BBC are going to
> accept that they made a mistake in casting Jodie Whittaker as The Doctor
> and will go back to Capaldi regenerating in to a male 13th Doctor is
> simply *DELUSIONAL* and they need to get a grip on reality.
>
The mistake the BBC made was hiring the sexist and racist bigot and far
> On 18/09/2021 03:58, The True Doctor wrote:
>> On 23/06/2021 07:41, Blueshirt wrote:
>>>
>>> It doesn't matter, as your guess (a whole era of the show being
>>> cancelled and reset) would lose! :-)
>>
>> It was successfully done with Dallas. If it hadn't been done then the
>> series would have ended.
>
> It won't be done with Doctor Who... anyone thinking the BBC are going to
> accept that they made a mistake in casting Jodie Whittaker as The Doctor
> and will go back to Capaldi regenerating in to a male 13th Doctor is
> simply *DELUSIONAL* and they need to get a grip on reality.
>
left political propagandist and talentless hack Chris Chibnall as show
runner.
Jodie Whittaker could have been tolerated. The sexism, racism, hatred of
the viewers, and Timeless Child which Chibnall inserted into the show
cannot. All of it has to be erased!
> The next Doctor will be #14. The only question is will they go for a man
> or another woman.
>
man. The show is about manhood and the heroes journey through adventure,
not about the race and gender of the main protagonist.
Doctor Who ended in 2017 just before Peter Capaldi thought he was going
to regenerate, just like Dallas ended just before Bobby was shot in a
dream that Pam had when he was showering. Dallas restarted after Bobby
walked out of the shower. Doctor Who can do the same thing.
tsbr...@gmail.com
Sep 18, 2021, 2:23:09 PM9/18/21
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2348 On Saturday, September 18, 2021 at 8:08:58 AM UTC-7, The True Doctor wrote:
> On 18/09/2021 12:26, Blueshirt wrote:
> > On 18/09/2021 03:58, The True Doctor wrote:
> >> On 23/06/2021 07:41, Blueshirt wrote:
> >>>
> >>> It doesn't matter, as your guess (a whole era of the show being
> >>> cancelled and reset) would lose! :-)
> >>
> >> It was successfully done with Dallas. If it hadn't been done then the
> >> series would have ended.
Has any series besides Dallas ever done that type of reset?
> On 18/09/2021 12:26, Blueshirt wrote:
> > On 18/09/2021 03:58, The True Doctor wrote:
> >> On 23/06/2021 07:41, Blueshirt wrote:
> >>>
> >>> It doesn't matter, as your guess (a whole era of the show being
> >>> cancelled and reset) would lose! :-)
> >>
> >> It was successfully done with Dallas. If it hadn't been done then the
> >> series would have ended.
> >
> > It won't be done with Doctor Who... anyone thinking the BBC are going to
> > accept that they made a mistake in casting Jodie Whittaker as The Doctor
> > and will go back to Capaldi regenerating in to a male 13th Doctor is
> > simply *DELUSIONAL* and they need to get a grip on reality.
> >
> The mistake the BBC made was hiring the sexist and racist bigot and far
> left political propagandist and talentless hack Chris Chibnall as show
> runner.
>
> Jodie Whittaker could have been tolerated. The sexism, racism, hatred of
> the viewers, and Timeless Child which Chibnall inserted into the show
> cannot. All of it has to be erased!
I had thought that Yads and Aggy were ideologically opposed to ANY woman!
> > It won't be done with Doctor Who... anyone thinking the BBC are going to
> > accept that they made a mistake in casting Jodie Whittaker as The Doctor
> > and will go back to Capaldi regenerating in to a male 13th Doctor is
> > simply *DELUSIONAL* and they need to get a grip on reality.
> >
> The mistake the BBC made was hiring the sexist and racist bigot and far
> left political propagandist and talentless hack Chris Chibnall as show
> runner.
>
> Jodie Whittaker could have been tolerated. The sexism, racism, hatred of
> the viewers, and Timeless Child which Chibnall inserted into the show
> cannot. All of it has to be erased!
> > The next Doctor will be #14. The only question is will they go for a man
> > or another woman.
> >
> The Doctor is a male character and therefore can only be played by a
> man. The show is about manhood and the heroes journey through adventure,
> not about the race and gender of the main protagonist.
>
> Doctor Who ended in 2017 just before Peter Capaldi thought he was going
> to regenerate, just like Dallas ended just before Bobby was shot in a
> dream that Pam had when he was showering. Dallas restarted after Bobby
> walked out of the shower. Doctor Who can do the same thing.
So the whole "Who Shot JR" question that consumed the nation during the off season was rendered MOOT?
> Doctor Who ended in 2017 just before Peter Capaldi thought he was going
> to regenerate, just like Dallas ended just before Bobby was shot in a
> dream that Pam had when he was showering. Dallas restarted after Bobby
> walked out of the shower. Doctor Who can do the same thing.
%
Sep 18, 2021, 3:12:56 PM9/18/21
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The Doctor
Sep 18, 2021, 6:09:55 PM9/18/21
to
In article <EYOdnfZARPyVnNv8...@brightview.co.uk>,
>> The next Doctor will be #14. The only question is will they go for a man
>> or another woman.
>>
>
>The Doctor is a male character and therefore can only be played by a
>man. The show is about manhood and the heroes journey through adventure,
>not about the race and gender of the main protagonist.
>
>Doctor Who ended in 2017 just before Peter Capaldi thought he was going
>to regenerate, just like Dallas ended just before Bobby was shot in a
>dream that Pam had when he was showering. Dallas restarted after Bobby
>walked out of the shower. Doctor Who can do the same thing.
>
Spot on!
>--
>The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
>
>"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it
>stands for." -William Shatner
The True Doctor <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>On 18/09/2021 12:26, Blueshirt wrote:
>> On 18/09/2021 03:58, The True Doctor wrote:
>>> On 23/06/2021 07:41, Blueshirt wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It doesn't matter, as your guess (a whole era of the show being
>>>> cancelled and reset) would lose! :-)
>>>
>>> It was successfully done with Dallas. If it hadn't been done then the
>>> series would have ended.
>>
>> It won't be done with Doctor Who... anyone thinking the BBC are going to
>> accept that they made a mistake in casting Jodie Whittaker as The Doctor
>> and will go back to Capaldi regenerating in to a male 13th Doctor is
>> simply *DELUSIONAL* and they need to get a grip on reality.
>>
>
>The mistake the BBC made was hiring the sexist and racist bigot and far
>left political propagandist and talentless hack Chris Chibnall as show
>runner.
>
>Jodie Whittaker could have been tolerated. The sexism, racism, hatred of
>the viewers, and Timeless Child which Chibnall inserted into the show
>cannot. All of it has to be erased!
>
Hear! Hear!!
>> On 18/09/2021 03:58, The True Doctor wrote:
>>> On 23/06/2021 07:41, Blueshirt wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It doesn't matter, as your guess (a whole era of the show being
>>>> cancelled and reset) would lose! :-)
>>>
>>> It was successfully done with Dallas. If it hadn't been done then the
>>> series would have ended.
>>
>> It won't be done with Doctor Who... anyone thinking the BBC are going to
>> accept that they made a mistake in casting Jodie Whittaker as The Doctor
>> and will go back to Capaldi regenerating in to a male 13th Doctor is
>> simply *DELUSIONAL* and they need to get a grip on reality.
>>
>
>The mistake the BBC made was hiring the sexist and racist bigot and far
>left political propagandist and talentless hack Chris Chibnall as show
>runner.
>
>Jodie Whittaker could have been tolerated. The sexism, racism, hatred of
>the viewers, and Timeless Child which Chibnall inserted into the show
>cannot. All of it has to be erased!
>
>> The next Doctor will be #14. The only question is will they go for a man
>> or another woman.
>>
>
>The Doctor is a male character and therefore can only be played by a
>man. The show is about manhood and the heroes journey through adventure,
>not about the race and gender of the main protagonist.
>
>Doctor Who ended in 2017 just before Peter Capaldi thought he was going
>to regenerate, just like Dallas ended just before Bobby was shot in a
>dream that Pam had when he was showering. Dallas restarted after Bobby
>walked out of the shower. Doctor Who can do the same thing.
>
>--
>The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
>
>"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it
>stands for." -William Shatner
The Doctor
Sep 18, 2021, 6:12:26 PM9/18/21
to
In article <8436c0b6-d17b-41df...@googlegroups.com>,
>> >
>> > It won't be done with Doctor Who... anyone thinking the BBC are going to
>> > accept that they made a mistake in casting Jodie Whittaker as The Doctor
>> > and will go back to Capaldi regenerating in to a male 13th Doctor is
>> > simply *DELUSIONAL* and they need to get a grip on reality.
>> >
>> The mistake the BBC made was hiring the sexist and racist bigot and far
>> left political propagandist and talentless hack Chris Chibnall as show
>> runner.
>>
>> Jodie Whittaker could have been tolerated. The sexism, racism, hatred of
>> the viewers, and Timeless Child which Chibnall inserted into the show
>> cannot. All of it has to be erased!
>
>I had thought that Yads and Aggy were ideologically opposed to ANY woman!
>
No!
>> > The next Doctor will be #14. The only question is will they go for a man
>> > or another woman.
>> >
>> The Doctor is a male character and therefore can only be played by a
>> man. The show is about manhood and the heroes journey through adventure,
>> not about the race and gender of the main protagonist.
>
>Which BBC documents state the above?
>>
>> Doctor Who ended in 2017 just before Peter Capaldi thought he was going
>> to regenerate, just like Dallas ended just before Bobby was shot in a
>> dream that Pam had when he was showering. Dallas restarted after Bobby
>> walked out of the shower. Doctor Who can do the same thing.
>
>So the whole "Who Shot JR" question that consumed the nation during the
>off season was rendered MOOT?
TTD has you killfiled!
tsbr...@gmail.com <tsbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>2348 On Saturday, September 18, 2021 at 8:08:58 AM UTC-7, The True Doctor wrote:
>> On 18/09/2021 12:26, Blueshirt wrote:
>> > On 18/09/2021 03:58, The True Doctor wrote:
>> >> On 23/06/2021 07:41, Blueshirt wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> It doesn't matter, as your guess (a whole era of the show being
>> >>> cancelled and reset) would lose! :-)
>> >>
>> >> It was successfully done with Dallas. If it hadn't been done then the
>> >> series would have ended.
>
>Has any series besides Dallas ever done that type of reset?
Doctor Who might be next!
>2348 On Saturday, September 18, 2021 at 8:08:58 AM UTC-7, The True Doctor wrote:
>> On 18/09/2021 12:26, Blueshirt wrote:
>> > On 18/09/2021 03:58, The True Doctor wrote:
>> >> On 23/06/2021 07:41, Blueshirt wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> It doesn't matter, as your guess (a whole era of the show being
>> >>> cancelled and reset) would lose! :-)
>> >>
>> >> It was successfully done with Dallas. If it hadn't been done then the
>> >> series would have ended.
>
>Has any series besides Dallas ever done that type of reset?
>> >
>> > It won't be done with Doctor Who... anyone thinking the BBC are going to
>> > accept that they made a mistake in casting Jodie Whittaker as The Doctor
>> > and will go back to Capaldi regenerating in to a male 13th Doctor is
>> > simply *DELUSIONAL* and they need to get a grip on reality.
>> >
>> The mistake the BBC made was hiring the sexist and racist bigot and far
>> left political propagandist and talentless hack Chris Chibnall as show
>> runner.
>>
>> Jodie Whittaker could have been tolerated. The sexism, racism, hatred of
>> the viewers, and Timeless Child which Chibnall inserted into the show
>> cannot. All of it has to be erased!
>
>I had thought that Yads and Aggy were ideologically opposed to ANY woman!
>
>> > The next Doctor will be #14. The only question is will they go for a man
>> > or another woman.
>> >
>> The Doctor is a male character and therefore can only be played by a
>> man. The show is about manhood and the heroes journey through adventure,
>> not about the race and gender of the main protagonist.
>
>Which BBC documents state the above?
>>
>> Doctor Who ended in 2017 just before Peter Capaldi thought he was going
>> to regenerate, just like Dallas ended just before Bobby was shot in a
>> dream that Pam had when he was showering. Dallas restarted after Bobby
>> walked out of the shower. Doctor Who can do the same thing.
>
>So the whole "Who Shot JR" question that consumed the nation during the
>off season was rendered MOOT?
The Doctor
Sep 18, 2021, 6:15:34 PM9/18/21
to
Blueshirt
Sep 18, 2021, 6:52:07 PM9/18/21
to
On 18/09/2021 13:09, The Doctor wrote:
> In article <si4icv$9e1$1...@dont-email.me>,
> Blueshirt <blue...@indigo.news> wrote:
>> On 18/09/2021 03:58, The True Doctor wrote:
>>> On 23/06/2021 07:41, Blueshirt wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It doesn't matter, as your guess (a whole era of the show being
>>>> cancelled and reset) would lose! :-)
>>>
>>> It was successfully done with Dallas. If it hadn't been done then the
>>> series would have ended.
>>
>> It won't be done with Doctor Who... anyone thinking the BBC are going to
>> accept that they made a mistake in casting Jodie Whittaker as The Doctor
>> and will go back to Capaldi regenerating in to a male 13th Doctor is
>> simply *DELUSIONAL* and they need to get a grip on reality.
>>
>> The next Doctor will be #14. The only question is will they go for a man
>> or another woman.
>
> I agree with TTD!
That's because you live in your own delusional little world that has no
> In article <si4icv$9e1$1...@dont-email.me>,
> Blueshirt <blue...@indigo.news> wrote:
>> On 18/09/2021 03:58, The True Doctor wrote:
>>> On 23/06/2021 07:41, Blueshirt wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It doesn't matter, as your guess (a whole era of the show being
>>>> cancelled and reset) would lose! :-)
>>>
>>> It was successfully done with Dallas. If it hadn't been done then the
>>> series would have ended.
>>
>> It won't be done with Doctor Who... anyone thinking the BBC are going to
>> accept that they made a mistake in casting Jodie Whittaker as The Doctor
>> and will go back to Capaldi regenerating in to a male 13th Doctor is
>> simply *DELUSIONAL* and they need to get a grip on reality.
>>
>> The next Doctor will be #14. The only question is will they go for a man
>> or another woman.
>
> I agree with TTD!
relevance to the world we live in today.
You are entitled to believe what you want to though, but it really isn't
going to happen. (As you will find out next year.)
Blueshirt
Sep 18, 2021, 6:56:17 PM9/18/21
to
On 18/09/2021 16:08, The True Doctor wrote:
> On 18/09/2021 12:26, Blueshirt wrote:
>>
>> It won't be done with Doctor Who... anyone thinking the BBC are going
>> to accept that they made a mistake in casting Jodie Whittaker as The
>> Doctor and will go back to Capaldi regenerating in to a male 13th
>> Doctor is simply *DELUSIONAL* and they need to get a grip on reality.
>
> The mistake the BBC made was hiring the sexist and racist bigot and far
> left political propagandist and talentless hack Chris Chibnall as show
> runner.
That is your opinion, which may or may not be correct. I personally
> On 18/09/2021 12:26, Blueshirt wrote:
>>
>> It won't be done with Doctor Who... anyone thinking the BBC are going
>> to accept that they made a mistake in casting Jodie Whittaker as The
>> Doctor and will go back to Capaldi regenerating in to a male 13th
>> Doctor is simply *DELUSIONAL* and they need to get a grip on reality.
>
> The mistake the BBC made was hiring the sexist and racist bigot and far
> left political propagandist and talentless hack Chris Chibnall as show
> runner.
wouldn't have given Chris Chibnall the job, but then again, I am not the
BBC. I will be glad when he does leave mainly because of the poorly
written scripts.
> Jodie Whittaker could have been tolerated. The sexism, racism, hatred of
> the viewers, and Timeless Child which Chibnall inserted into the show
> cannot. All of it has to be erased!
>> The next Doctor will be #14. The only question is will they go for a
>> man or another woman.
>
> The Doctor is a male character and therefore can only be played by a
> man. The show is about manhood and the heroes journey through adventure,
> not about the race and gender of the main protagonist.
Doctor Who has been a TV show about change, and the show has changed
many times over the years. It might change again with the new showrunner.
> Doctor Who ended in 2017 just before Peter Capaldi thought he was going
> to regenerate, just like Dallas ended just before Bobby was shot in a
> dream that Pam had when he was showering. Dallas restarted after Bobby
> walked out of the shower. Doctor Who can do the same thing.
sane person really believes that to be the case.
The True Doctor
Sep 18, 2021, 7:23:17 PM9/18/21
to
On 18/09/2021 20:12, % wrote:
> On 2021-09-18 11:23 a.m., tsbr...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 2348 On Saturday, September 18, 2021 at 8:08:58 AM UTC-7, The True
>> Doctor wrote:
>>> On 18/09/2021 12:26, Blueshirt wrote:
>>>> On 18/09/2021 03:58, The True Doctor wrote:
>>>>> On 23/06/2021 07:41, Blueshirt wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It doesn't matter, as your guess (a whole era of the show being
>>>>>> cancelled and reset) would lose! :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> It was successfully done with Dallas. If it hadn't been done then the
>>>>> series would have ended.
>>
>> Has any series besides Dallas ever done that type of reset?
Avengers: Endgame
> On 2021-09-18 11:23 a.m., tsbr...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 2348 On Saturday, September 18, 2021 at 8:08:58 AM UTC-7, The True
>> Doctor wrote:
>>> On 18/09/2021 12:26, Blueshirt wrote:
>>>> On 18/09/2021 03:58, The True Doctor wrote:
>>>>> On 23/06/2021 07:41, Blueshirt wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It doesn't matter, as your guess (a whole era of the show being
>>>>>> cancelled and reset) would lose! :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> It was successfully done with Dallas. If it hadn't been done then the
>>>>> series would have ended.
>>
>> Has any series besides Dallas ever done that type of reset?
>>>>
>>>> It won't be done with Doctor Who... anyone thinking the BBC are
>>>> going to
>>>> accept that they made a mistake in casting Jodie Whittaker as The
>>>> Doctor
>>>> and will go back to Capaldi regenerating in to a male 13th Doctor is
>>>> simply *DELUSIONAL* and they need to get a grip on reality.
>>>>
>>> The mistake the BBC made was hiring the sexist and racist bigot and far
>>> left political propagandist and talentless hack Chris Chibnall as show
>>> runner.
>>>
>>> Jodie Whittaker could have been tolerated. The sexism, racism, hatred of
>>> the viewers, and Timeless Child which Chibnall inserted into the show
>>> cannot. All of it has to be erased!
>>
>> I had thought that Yads and Aggy were ideologically opposed to ANY woman!
>>
cannot be played by a women, since men and women are different in
character. This was clearly demonstrated when they tried to turn Captain
James T Kirk into a woman in the very last episode of Star Trek TOS.
Everyone knew it was not him.
>>>> The next Doctor will be #14. The only question is will they go for a
>>>> man
>>>> or another woman.
>>>>
>>> The Doctor is a male character and therefore can only be played by a
>>> man. The show is about manhood and the heroes journey through adventure,
>>> not about the race and gender of the main protagonist.
>>
>> Which BBC documents state the above?
of Doctor Who prior to Chibnall, which of course is not Doctor Who but
The Timeless Child. Anyone with any understanding of literature can
figure out from those documents that Doctor Who is about manhood and the
hero's journey through adventure, not about the race and gender of the
main protagonist. The fact that Series 10 was mainly about Mel being a
lesbian doesn't change that.
>>>
>>> Doctor Who ended in 2017 just before Peter Capaldi thought he was going
>>> to regenerate, just like Dallas ended just before Bobby was shot in a
>>> dream that Pam had when he was showering. Dallas restarted after Bobby
>>> walked out of the shower. Doctor Who can do the same thing.
>>
>> So the whole "Who Shot JR" question that consumed the nation during
>> the off season was rendered MOOT?
>>
> no just the people that talk about it still did
Shot JR had nothing to do with who shot and killed Bobby. Bobby's
shooting only happened in Pam's dream, just as Capaldi's regeneration
into Whittaker and the Timeless Child only happens in Clara's dream.
Doctor Who has already gone most of the way of showing us that in Last
Christmas. If neither Jenna or Peter want to return then other actors
can be cast to play older versions of themselves with Clara waking up
yet again from another nightmare and this time seeing the Twelfth Doctor
walking out of the shower.
The Doctor
Sep 18, 2021, 7:38:04 PM9/18/21
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The Doctor
Sep 18, 2021, 7:39:21 PM9/18/21
to
In article <si5qqg$ta9$1...@dont-email.me>,
>> Jodie Whittaker could have been tolerated. The sexism, racism, hatred of
>> the viewers, and Timeless Child which Chibnall inserted into the show
>> cannot. All of it has to be erased!
>
>I don't see it being erased.
>
Well that depends on management.
>>> The next Doctor will be #14. The only question is will they go for a
>>> man or another woman.
>>
>> The Doctor is a male character and therefore can only be played by a
>> man. The show is about manhood and the heroes journey through adventure,
>> not about the race and gender of the main protagonist.
>
>The Doctor is currently a female so your statement is plainly incorrect.
>Doctor Who has been a TV show about change, and the show has changed
>many times over the years. It might change again with the new showrunner.
>
OR still going through a regeneration.
>> Doctor Who ended in 2017 just before Peter Capaldi thought he was going
>> to regenerate, just like Dallas ended just before Bobby was shot in a
>> dream that Pam had when he was showering. Dallas restarted after Bobby
>> walked out of the shower. Doctor Who can do the same thing.
>
>As a critique of Doctor Who that's just a delusional statement and no
>sane person really believes that to be the case.
>
IYIO!
Blueshirt <blue...@indigo.news> wrote:
>On 18/09/2021 16:08, The True Doctor wrote:
>> On 18/09/2021 12:26, Blueshirt wrote:
>>>
>>> It won't be done with Doctor Who... anyone thinking the BBC are going
>>> to accept that they made a mistake in casting Jodie Whittaker as The
>>> Doctor and will go back to Capaldi regenerating in to a male 13th
>>> Doctor is simply *DELUSIONAL* and they need to get a grip on reality.
>>
>> The mistake the BBC made was hiring the sexist and racist bigot and far
>> left political propagandist and talentless hack Chris Chibnall as show
>> runner.
>
>That is your opinion, which may or may not be correct. I personally
>wouldn't have given Chris Chibnall the job, but then again, I am not the
>BBC. I will be glad when he does leave mainly because of the poorly
>written scripts.
>
And Poor Timeless Child concept!
>On 18/09/2021 16:08, The True Doctor wrote:
>> On 18/09/2021 12:26, Blueshirt wrote:
>>>
>>> It won't be done with Doctor Who... anyone thinking the BBC are going
>>> to accept that they made a mistake in casting Jodie Whittaker as The
>>> Doctor and will go back to Capaldi regenerating in to a male 13th
>>> Doctor is simply *DELUSIONAL* and they need to get a grip on reality.
>>
>> The mistake the BBC made was hiring the sexist and racist bigot and far
>> left political propagandist and talentless hack Chris Chibnall as show
>> runner.
>
>That is your opinion, which may or may not be correct. I personally
>wouldn't have given Chris Chibnall the job, but then again, I am not the
>BBC. I will be glad when he does leave mainly because of the poorly
>written scripts.
>
>> Jodie Whittaker could have been tolerated. The sexism, racism, hatred of
>> the viewers, and Timeless Child which Chibnall inserted into the show
>> cannot. All of it has to be erased!
>
>I don't see it being erased.
>
>>> The next Doctor will be #14. The only question is will they go for a
>>> man or another woman.
>>
>> The Doctor is a male character and therefore can only be played by a
>> man. The show is about manhood and the heroes journey through adventure,
>> not about the race and gender of the main protagonist.
>
>The Doctor is currently a female so your statement is plainly incorrect.
>Doctor Who has been a TV show about change, and the show has changed
>many times over the years. It might change again with the new showrunner.
>
>> Doctor Who ended in 2017 just before Peter Capaldi thought he was going
>> to regenerate, just like Dallas ended just before Bobby was shot in a
>> dream that Pam had when he was showering. Dallas restarted after Bobby
>> walked out of the shower. Doctor Who can do the same thing.
>
>As a critique of Doctor Who that's just a delusional statement and no
>sane person really believes that to be the case.
>
The Doctor
Sep 18, 2021, 7:40:43 PM9/18/21
to
In article <F-qdnVsfM-t56dv8...@brightview.co.uk>,
Thank you!
>--
>The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
>
>"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it
>stands for." -William Shatner
The True Doctor <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>--
>The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
>
>"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it
>stands for." -William Shatner
The True Doctor
Sep 18, 2021, 7:44:00 PM9/18/21
to
On 18/09/2021 23:56, Blueshirt wrote:
> On 18/09/2021 16:08, The True Doctor wrote:
>> On 18/09/2021 12:26, Blueshirt wrote:
>>>
>>> It won't be done with Doctor Who... anyone thinking the BBC are going
>>> to accept that they made a mistake in casting Jodie Whittaker as The
>>> Doctor and will go back to Capaldi regenerating in to a male 13th
>>> Doctor is simply *DELUSIONAL* and they need to get a grip on reality.
>>
>> The mistake the BBC made was hiring the sexist and racist bigot and
>> far left political propagandist and talentless hack Chris Chibnall as
>> show runner.
>
> That is your opinion, which may or may not be correct. I personally
> wouldn't have given Chris Chibnall the job, but then again, I am not the
> BBC. I will be glad when he does leave mainly because of the poorly
> written scripts.
>
>> Jodie Whittaker could have been tolerated. The sexism, racism, hatred
>> of the viewers, and Timeless Child which Chibnall inserted into the
>> show cannot. All of it has to be erased!
>
> I don't see it being erased.
>
It was done in Dallas and it can be done with Doctor Who.
> On 18/09/2021 16:08, The True Doctor wrote:
>> On 18/09/2021 12:26, Blueshirt wrote:
>>>
>>> It won't be done with Doctor Who... anyone thinking the BBC are going
>>> to accept that they made a mistake in casting Jodie Whittaker as The
>>> Doctor and will go back to Capaldi regenerating in to a male 13th
>>> Doctor is simply *DELUSIONAL* and they need to get a grip on reality.
>>
>> The mistake the BBC made was hiring the sexist and racist bigot and
>> far left political propagandist and talentless hack Chris Chibnall as
>> show runner.
>
> That is your opinion, which may or may not be correct. I personally
> wouldn't have given Chris Chibnall the job, but then again, I am not the
> BBC. I will be glad when he does leave mainly because of the poorly
> written scripts.
>
>> Jodie Whittaker could have been tolerated. The sexism, racism, hatred
>> of the viewers, and Timeless Child which Chibnall inserted into the
>> show cannot. All of it has to be erased!
>
> I don't see it being erased.
>
Last Christmas already offers an opportunity to do this by the
continuation of Clara's dream in the manner of Dallas. Continuing Sleep
No More is also another possible way of doing this.
>>> The next Doctor will be #14. The only question is will they go for a
>>> man or another woman.
>>
>> The Doctor is a male character and therefore can only be played by a
>> man. The show is about manhood and the heroes journey through
>> adventure, not about the race and gender of the main protagonist.
>
> The Doctor is currently a female so your statement is plainly incorrect.
Child, which has nothing whatsoever to do with the character of the
Doctor other than being an imposter.
> Doctor Who has been a TV show about change, and the show has changed
constancy of character, that despite the Doctor's face being different
after regenerating, he is still the same male person and character. It
demonstrates that no matter how much you go through in life you will
always remain the same.
> many times over the years. It might change again with the new showrunner.
>
consistent. The Doctor was always a man of IC1 or IC2 ethnicity and
British, because that is the ethnicity of the majority of the show's
British viewers.
>> Doctor Who ended in 2017 just before Peter Capaldi thought he was
>> going to regenerate, just like Dallas ended just before Bobby was shot
>> in a dream that Pam had when he was showering. Dallas restarted after
>> Bobby walked out of the shower. Doctor Who can do the same thing.
>
> As a critique of Doctor Who that's just a delusional statement and no
> sane person really believes that to be the case.
>
which explicitly imply that scenario.
The Doctor
Sep 18, 2021, 7:46:03 PM9/18/21
to
In article <HJWdnVIv_6Qj5Nv8...@brightview.co.uk>,
Good points!
>--
>The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
>
>"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it
>stands for." -William Shatner
The True Doctor <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>--
>The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
>
>"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it
>stands for." -William Shatner
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2397, 2398, 2399 On Saturday, September 18, 2021 at 4:44:00 PM UTC-7, The True Doctor wrote:
> On 18/09/2021 23:56, Blueshirt wrote:
> > On 18/09/2021 16:08, The True Doctor wrote:
> >> On 18/09/2021 12:26, Blueshirt wrote:
> >>>
> >>> It won't be done with Doctor Who... anyone thinking the BBC are going
> >>> to accept that they made a mistake in casting Jodie Whittaker as The
> >>> Doctor and will go back to Capaldi regenerating in to a male 13th
> >>> Doctor is simply *DELUSIONAL* and they need to get a grip on reality.
> >>
> >> The mistake the BBC made was hiring the sexist and racist bigot and
> >> far left political propagandist and talentless hack Chris Chibnall as
> >> show runner.
> >
> > That is your opinion, which may or may not be correct. I personally
> > wouldn't have given Chris Chibnall the job, but then again, I am not the
> > BBC. I will be glad when he does leave mainly because of the poorly
> > written scripts.
> >
> >> Jodie Whittaker could have been tolerated. The sexism, racism, hatred
> >> of the viewers, and Timeless Child which Chibnall inserted into the
> >> show cannot. All of it has to be erased!
> >
> > I don't see it being erased.
> >
> It was done in Dallas and it can be done with Doctor Who.
>
> Last Christmas already offers an opportunity to do this by the
> continuation of Clara's dream in the manner of Dallas.
So Peter Capaldi comes out of the shower to rip a Dream Crab off of Clara?
> On 18/09/2021 23:56, Blueshirt wrote:
> > On 18/09/2021 16:08, The True Doctor wrote:
> >> On 18/09/2021 12:26, Blueshirt wrote:
> >>>
> >>> It won't be done with Doctor Who... anyone thinking the BBC are going
> >>> to accept that they made a mistake in casting Jodie Whittaker as The
> >>> Doctor and will go back to Capaldi regenerating in to a male 13th
> >>> Doctor is simply *DELUSIONAL* and they need to get a grip on reality.
> >>
> >> The mistake the BBC made was hiring the sexist and racist bigot and
> >> far left political propagandist and talentless hack Chris Chibnall as
> >> show runner.
> >
> > That is your opinion, which may or may not be correct. I personally
> > wouldn't have given Chris Chibnall the job, but then again, I am not the
> > BBC. I will be glad when he does leave mainly because of the poorly
> > written scripts.
> >
> >> Jodie Whittaker could have been tolerated. The sexism, racism, hatred
> >> of the viewers, and Timeless Child which Chibnall inserted into the
> >> show cannot. All of it has to be erased!
> >
> > I don't see it being erased.
> >
> It was done in Dallas and it can be done with Doctor Who.
>
> Last Christmas already offers an opportunity to do this by the
> continuation of Clara's dream in the manner of Dallas.
Continuing Sleep
> No More is also another possible way of doing this.
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solar penguin
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The True Idiot tried to insist:
>
> The Doctor is a male character and therefore can only
> be played by a man. The show is about manhood and
> the heroes journey through adventure, not about the
> race and gender of the main protagonist.
>
Ignoring the nonsense of “The show is about manhood …
not about … gender,” you’re overlooking the obvious fact
that the Doctor is a trickster, not a hero archetype, so the
show has _never_ been about “the heroes(sic) journey.”
If you don’t know that, you don’t know Doctor Who at all!
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solar penguin
>
> The Doctor is a male character and therefore can only
> be played by a man. The show is about manhood and
> the heroes journey through adventure, not about the
> race and gender of the main protagonist.
>
not about … gender,” you’re overlooking the obvious fact
that the Doctor is a trickster, not a hero archetype, so the
show has _never_ been about “the heroes(sic) journey.”
If you don’t know that, you don’t know Doctor Who at all!
--
solar penguin
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2452 On Saturday, September 18, 2021 at 4:23:17 PM UTC-7, The True Doctor wrote:
> On 18/09/2021 20:12, % wrote:
> > On 2021-09-18 11:23 a.m., tsbr...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> 2348 On Saturday, September 18, 2021 at 8:08:58 AM UTC-7, The True
> >> Doctor wrote:
> >>> Jodie Whittaker could have been tolerated. The sexism, racism, hatred of
> >>> the viewers, and Timeless Child which Chibnall inserted into the show
> >>> cannot. All of it has to be erased!
> >>
> >> I had thought that Yads and Aggy were ideologically opposed to ANY woman!
> >>
> The character of the Doctor is the character of a man and therefore
> cannot be played by a women, since men and women are different in
> character. This was clearly demonstrated when they tried to turn Captain
> James T Kirk into a woman in the very last episode of Star Trek TOS.
> Everyone knew it was not him.
That would be because the writers wanted Kirk's senior staff to notice the body switch.
> On 18/09/2021 20:12, % wrote:
> > On 2021-09-18 11:23 a.m., tsbr...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> 2348 On Saturday, September 18, 2021 at 8:08:58 AM UTC-7, The True
> >> Doctor wrote:
> >>> Jodie Whittaker could have been tolerated. The sexism, racism, hatred of
> >>> the viewers, and Timeless Child which Chibnall inserted into the show
> >>> cannot. All of it has to be erased!
> >>
> >> I had thought that Yads and Aggy were ideologically opposed to ANY woman!
> >>
> The character of the Doctor is the character of a man and therefore
> cannot be played by a women, since men and women are different in
> character. This was clearly demonstrated when they tried to turn Captain
> James T Kirk into a woman in the very last episode of Star Trek TOS.
> Everyone knew it was not him.
> >>>>
> >>> The Doctor is a male character and therefore can only be played by a
> >>> man. The show is about manhood and the heroes journey through adventure,
> >>> not about the race and gender of the main protagonist.
> >>
> >> Which BBC documents state the above?
> All the scripts, video tapes, film roles, and HHDs containing episodes
> of Doctor Who prior to Chibnall, which of course is not Doctor Who but
> The Timeless Child. Anyone with any understanding of literature can
> figure out from those documents that Doctor Who is about manhood and the
> hero's journey through adventure, not about the race and gender of the
> main protagonist. The fact that Series 10 was mainly about Mel being a
> lesbian doesn't change that.
Xena: Warrior Princess: Doesn't she qualify as a hero?
> >>> The Doctor is a male character and therefore can only be played by a
> >>> man. The show is about manhood and the heroes journey through adventure,
> >>> not about the race and gender of the main protagonist.
> >>
> >> Which BBC documents state the above?
> All the scripts, video tapes, film roles, and HHDs containing episodes
> of Doctor Who prior to Chibnall, which of course is not Doctor Who but
> The Timeless Child. Anyone with any understanding of literature can
> figure out from those documents that Doctor Who is about manhood and the
> hero's journey through adventure, not about the race and gender of the
> main protagonist. The fact that Series 10 was mainly about Mel being a
> lesbian doesn't change that.
> >>>
> >>> Doctor Who ended in 2017 just before Peter Capaldi thought he was going
> >>> to regenerate, just like Dallas ended just before Bobby was shot in a
> >>> dream that Pam had when he was showering. Dallas restarted after Bobby
> >>> walked out of the shower. Doctor Who can do the same thing.
> >>
> >> So the whole "Who Shot JR" question that consumed the nation during
> >> the off season was rendered MOOT?
> >>
> > no just the people that talk about it still did
> Have either of your two actually watched Dallas? The question of who
> Shot JR had nothing to do with who shot and killed Bobby. Bobby's
> shooting only happened in Pam's dream, just as Capaldi's regeneration
> into Whittaker and the Timeless Child only happens in Clara's dream.
Yads suggests that the past 2 Series be a Doctor 12 regeneration induced dream! I have suggested it too.
> >>> Doctor Who ended in 2017 just before Peter Capaldi thought he was going
> >>> to regenerate, just like Dallas ended just before Bobby was shot in a
> >>> dream that Pam had when he was showering. Dallas restarted after Bobby
> >>> walked out of the shower. Doctor Who can do the same thing.
> >>
> >> So the whole "Who Shot JR" question that consumed the nation during
> >> the off season was rendered MOOT?
> >>
> > no just the people that talk about it still did
> Have either of your two actually watched Dallas? The question of who
> Shot JR had nothing to do with who shot and killed Bobby. Bobby's
> shooting only happened in Pam's dream, just as Capaldi's regeneration
> into Whittaker and the Timeless Child only happens in Clara's dream.
>
> Doctor Who has already gone most of the way of showing us that in Last
> Christmas. If neither Jenna or Peter want to return then other actors
> can be cast to play older versions of themselves with Clara waking up
> yet again from another nightmare and this time seeing the Twelfth Doctor
> walking out of the shower.
Then Clara would warn the Doctor that she saw him regenerate into a woman and fall out of the TARDIS, and beg him to park it before regenerating!
> Doctor Who has already gone most of the way of showing us that in Last
> Christmas. If neither Jenna or Peter want to return then other actors
> can be cast to play older versions of themselves with Clara waking up
> yet again from another nightmare and this time seeing the Twelfth Doctor
> walking out of the shower.
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2454, 2455, 2456 On Saturday, September 18, 2021 at 4:44:00 PM UTC-7, The True Doctor wrote:
> On 18/09/2021 23:56, Blueshirt wrote:
> > On 18/09/2021 16:08, The True Doctor wrote:
> >
> >> Jodie Whittaker could have been tolerated. The sexism, racism, hatred
> >> of the viewers, and Timeless Child which Chibnall inserted into the
> >> show cannot. All of it has to be erased!
> >
> > I don't see it being erased.
> >
> It was done in Dallas and it can be done with Doctor Who.
But Dallas wasn't an SF show!
> On 18/09/2021 23:56, Blueshirt wrote:
> > On 18/09/2021 16:08, The True Doctor wrote:
> >
> >> Jodie Whittaker could have been tolerated. The sexism, racism, hatred
> >> of the viewers, and Timeless Child which Chibnall inserted into the
> >> show cannot. All of it has to be erased!
> >
> > I don't see it being erased.
> >
> It was done in Dallas and it can be done with Doctor Who.
>
> >> The Doctor is a male character and therefore can only be played by a
> >> man. The show is about manhood and the heroes journey through
> >> adventure, not about the race and gender of the main protagonist.
> >
> > The Doctor is currently a female so your statement is plainly incorrect.
> The character Whittaker is playing is NOT the Doctor. It's the Timeless
> Child, which has nothing whatsoever to do with the character of the
> Doctor other than being an imposter.
> > Doctor Who has been a TV show about change, and the show has changed
> No it has not! It is the exact antithesis of change. It's about
> constancy of character, that despite the Doctor's face being different
> after regenerating, he is still the same male person and character. It
> demonstrates that no matter how much you go through in life you will
> always remain the same.
> > many times over the years. It might change again with the new showrunner.
> >
> No. Doctor Who remained consistent in the same way James Bond remained
> consistent. The Doctor was always a man of IC1 or IC2 ethnicity and
> British, because that is the ethnicity of the majority of the show's
> British viewers.
So a BLACK MALE Doctor would ALSO be illegal!
> >> The Doctor is a male character and therefore can only be played by a
> >> man. The show is about manhood and the heroes journey through
> >> adventure, not about the race and gender of the main protagonist.
> >
> > The Doctor is currently a female so your statement is plainly incorrect.
> The character Whittaker is playing is NOT the Doctor. It's the Timeless
> Child, which has nothing whatsoever to do with the character of the
> Doctor other than being an imposter.
> > Doctor Who has been a TV show about change, and the show has changed
> No it has not! It is the exact antithesis of change. It's about
> constancy of character, that despite the Doctor's face being different
> after regenerating, he is still the same male person and character. It
> demonstrates that no matter how much you go through in life you will
> always remain the same.
> > many times over the years. It might change again with the new showrunner.
> >
> No. Doctor Who remained consistent in the same way James Bond remained
> consistent. The Doctor was always a man of IC1 or IC2 ethnicity and
> British, because that is the ethnicity of the majority of the show's
> British viewers.
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solar penguin
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Tim typed:
The Doctor is heroic, but isn’t a hero archetype in the specific
sense of the Hero’s Journey.
--
solar penguin
sense of the Hero’s Journey.
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solar penguin
The True Doctor
Sep 19, 2021, 2:28:37 PM9/19/21
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On 19/09/2021 09:12, solar imbecile wrote:
learning how to behave in a mature adult manner and deal with life
experiences in the manner of a man. It is not about changing his gender
into a woman.
> that the Doctor is a trickster, not a hero archetype, so the
> show has _never_ been about “the heroes(sic) journey.”
>
> If you don’t know that, you don’t know Doctor Who at all!
>
The Doctor is not Loki. The Doctor left Gallifrey to explore the
universe and look for adventure, and as such the series is about the
heroes journey.
> The True Doctor wrote:
>
>>
>> The Doctor is a male character and therefore can only
>> be played by a man. The show is about manhood and
>> the heroes journey through adventure, not about the
>> race and gender of the main protagonist.
>>
>
> Ignoring the nonsense of “The show is about manhood …
> not about … gender,” you’re overlooking the obvious fact
Manhood is not about gender. It's about a male character discovering and
>
>>
>> The Doctor is a male character and therefore can only
>> be played by a man. The show is about manhood and
>> the heroes journey through adventure, not about the
>> race and gender of the main protagonist.
>>
>
> Ignoring the nonsense of “The show is about manhood …
> not about … gender,” you’re overlooking the obvious fact
learning how to behave in a mature adult manner and deal with life
experiences in the manner of a man. It is not about changing his gender
into a woman.
> that the Doctor is a trickster, not a hero archetype, so the
> show has _never_ been about “the heroes(sic) journey.”
>
> If you don’t know that, you don’t know Doctor Who at all!
>
universe and look for adventure, and as such the series is about the
heroes journey.
The True Doctor
Sep 19, 2021, 2:35:43 PM9/19/21
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On 19/09/2021 17:16, solar imbecile wrote:
> Tim typed:
>
>> 2451 On Sunday, September 19, 2021 at 1:12:50 AM UTC-7, solar penguin wrote:
> Tim typed:
>
>> 2451 On Sunday, September 19, 2021 at 1:12:50 AM UTC-7, solar penguin wrote:
>>> The True Doctor wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The Doctor is a male character and therefore can only
>>>> be played by a man. The show is about manhood and
>>>> the heroes journey through adventure, not about the
>>>> race and gender of the main protagonist.
>>>>
>>> Ignoring the nonsense of “The show is about manhood …
>>> not about … gender,” you’re overlooking the obvious fact
>>> that the Doctor is a trickster, not a hero archetype, so the
>>> show has _never_ been about “the heroes(sic) journey.”
>>>
>>> If you don’t know that, you don’t know Doctor Who at all!
>>
>> Isn't the Doctor BOTH hero AND trickster, and thus qualify
>> for hero archetype hood?
>>
>
> The Doctor is heroic, but isn’t a hero archetype in the specific
> sense of the Hero’s Journey.
>
Yes he damned well is. Doctor Who is no different to the Odyssey and the
>>>>
>>>> The Doctor is a male character and therefore can only
>>>> be played by a man. The show is about manhood and
>>>> the heroes journey through adventure, not about the
>>>> race and gender of the main protagonist.
>>>>
>>> Ignoring the nonsense of “The show is about manhood …
>>> not about … gender,” you’re overlooking the obvious fact
>>> that the Doctor is a trickster, not a hero archetype, so the
>>> show has _never_ been about “the heroes(sic) journey.”
>>>
>>> If you don’t know that, you don’t know Doctor Who at all!
>>
>> Isn't the Doctor BOTH hero AND trickster, and thus qualify
>> for hero archetype hood?
>>
>
> The Doctor is heroic, but isn’t a hero archetype in the specific
> sense of the Hero’s Journey.
>
Doctor is no different to Odysseus who uses his knowledge and cunning to
defeat the monsters and villains he encounters on his journey. He's not
Loki whose modus operandi is to cause mischief with his lies for his own
personal pleasure and advancement.
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2488 On Sunday, September 19, 2021 at 11:35:43 AM UTC-7, The True Doctor wrote:
> On 19/09/2021 17:16, solar imbecile wrote:
> > Tim typed:
> >
> >> 2451 On Sunday, September 19, 2021 at 1:12:50 AM UTC-7, solar penguin wrote:
> >>> The True Doctor wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> The Doctor is a male character and therefore can only
> >>>> be played by a man. The show is about manhood and
> >>>> the heroes journey through adventure, not about the
> >>>> race and gender of the main protagonist.
> >>>>
> >>> Ignoring the nonsense of “The show is about manhood …
> >>> not about … gender,” you’re overlooking the obvious fact
> >>> that the Doctor is a trickster, not a hero archetype, so the
> >>> show has _never_ been about “the heroes(sic) journey.”
> >>>
> >>> If you don’t know that, you don’t know Doctor Who at all!
> >>
> >> Isn't the Doctor BOTH hero AND trickster, and thus qualify
> >> for hero archetype hood?
> >>
> >
> > The Doctor is heroic, but isn’t a hero archetype in the specific
> > sense of the Hero’s Journey.
> >
> Yes he damned well is. Doctor Who is no different to the Odyssey and the
> Doctor is no different to Odysseus who uses his knowledge and cunning to
> defeat the monsters and villains he encounters on his journey. He's not
> Loki whose modus operandi is to cause mischief with his lies for his own
> personal pleasure and advancement.
Why aren't women allowed to go on Hero's Journeys as per Odysseus?
> On 19/09/2021 17:16, solar imbecile wrote:
> > Tim typed:
> >
> >> 2451 On Sunday, September 19, 2021 at 1:12:50 AM UTC-7, solar penguin wrote:
> >>> The True Doctor wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> The Doctor is a male character and therefore can only
> >>>> be played by a man. The show is about manhood and
> >>>> the heroes journey through adventure, not about the
> >>>> race and gender of the main protagonist.
> >>>>
> >>> Ignoring the nonsense of “The show is about manhood …
> >>> not about … gender,” you’re overlooking the obvious fact
> >>> that the Doctor is a trickster, not a hero archetype, so the
> >>> show has _never_ been about “the heroes(sic) journey.”
> >>>
> >>> If you don’t know that, you don’t know Doctor Who at all!
> >>
> >> Isn't the Doctor BOTH hero AND trickster, and thus qualify
> >> for hero archetype hood?
> >>
> >
> > The Doctor is heroic, but isn’t a hero archetype in the specific
> > sense of the Hero’s Journey.
> >
> Yes he damned well is. Doctor Who is no different to the Odyssey and the
> Doctor is no different to Odysseus who uses his knowledge and cunning to
> defeat the monsters and villains he encounters on his journey. He's not
> Loki whose modus operandi is to cause mischief with his lies for his own
> personal pleasure and advancement.
Blueshirt
Sep 19, 2021, 5:08:53 PM9/19/21
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On 19/09/2021 19:28, The True Doctor wrote:
>
> The Doctor is not Loki.
No, she's Thor ... once a man, now a woman! ;-)
>
> The Doctor is not Loki.
No, she's Thor ... once a man, now a woman! ;-)
solar penguin
Sep 19, 2021, 6:00:08 PM9/19/21
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The True Idiot tried to insist:
> On 19/09/2021 09:12, solar imbecile wrote:
>> The True Idiot tried to insist:
>>
>>>
>>> The Doctor is a male character and therefore can only
>>> be played by a man. The show is about manhood and
>>> the heroes journey through adventure, not about the
>>> race and gender of the main protagonist.
>>>
>>
>> Ignoring the nonsense of “The show is about manhood …
>> not about … gender,” you’re overlooking the obvious fact
>
> Manhood is not about gender. It's about a male character
And therefore is at least partly about gender.
>>>
>>> The Doctor is a male character and therefore can only
>>> be played by a man. The show is about manhood and
>>> the heroes journey through adventure, not about the
>>> race and gender of the main protagonist.
>>>
>>
>> Ignoring the nonsense of “The show is about manhood …
>> not about … gender,” you’re overlooking the obvious fact
>
> Manhood is not about gender. It's about a male character
> discovering and
> learning how to behave in a mature adult manner and deal with life
> experiences in the manner of a man. It is not about changing his gender
> into a woman.
in a story” and “what the story is about.”
If a story isn’t about gender, then by definition it doesn’t
really matter what gender the characters just happen to be.
>
>> that the Doctor is a trickster, not a hero archetype, so the
>> show has _never_ been about “the heroes(sic) journey.”
>>
>> If you don’t know that, you don’t know Doctor Who at all!
>>
>
> The Doctor is not Loki.
made Loki into a sort-of time-travelling policeman!
But despite that I actually agree with you. The Doctor is
more of an El-ahrairah or Anansi style of trickster.
> The Doctor left Gallifrey to explore the
> universe and look for adventure,
“I left Gallifrey to answer a question of my own. By any analysis, evil
should always win. Good is not a practical survival strategy. It requires
loyalty, self-sacrifice and er, love. So, why does good prevail? What keeps
the balance between good and evil in this appalling universe? Is there some
kind of logic? Some mysterious force?”
> and as such the series is about the
> heroes journey.
>
Journey as you do about spelling its name. It involves more
than just looking for adventure.
--
solar penguin
The Doctor
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The Doctor
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In article <97e53a5d-c169-4b5a...@googlegroups.com>,
Do you oppose Chibnall/Whittaker or support Chibnall/Whittker?
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solar penguin
Sep 19, 2021, 6:11:45 PM9/19/21
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The True Idiot tried to insist:
> On 19/09/2021 17:16, solar imbecile wrote:
>>
>> The Doctor is heroic, but isn’t a hero archetype in the specific
>> sense of the Hero’s Journey.
>>
>
> Yes he damned well is. Doctor Who is no different to the Odyssey and the
> Doctor is no different to Odysseus who uses his knowledge and cunning to
> defeat the monsters and villains he encounters on his journey.
Eh? Are you really saying that Odysseus isn’t a trickster?
>>
>> The Doctor is heroic, but isn’t a hero archetype in the specific
>> sense of the Hero’s Journey.
>>
>
> Yes he damned well is. Doctor Who is no different to the Odyssey and the
> Doctor is no different to Odysseus who uses his knowledge and cunning to
> defeat the monsters and villains he encounters on his journey.
Of course he is!
> He's not
> Loki whose modus operandi is to cause mischief with his lies for his own
> personal pleasure and advancement.
>
the Doctor is more like El-ahrairah or Anansi or Coyote
than Loki.
--
solar penguin
tsbru...@gmail.com
Sep 19, 2021, 6:14:37 PM9/19/21
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The Doctor
Sep 19, 2021, 6:18:56 PM9/19/21
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The Doctor
Sep 19, 2021, 6:23:14 PM9/19/21
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In article <GdidnTEbNovOHNr8...@brightview.co.uk>,
>--
>The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
>
>"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it
>stands for." -William Shatner
The True Doctor <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>On 19/09/2021 09:12, solar imbecile wrote:
>> The True Doctor wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> The Doctor is a male character and therefore can only
>>> be played by a man. The show is about manhood and
>>> the heroes journey through adventure, not about the
>>> race and gender of the main protagonist.
>>>
>>
>> Ignoring the nonsense of “The show is about manhood …
>> not about … gender,” you’re overlooking the obvious fact
>
>Manhood is not about gender. It's about a male character discovering and
>learning how to behave in a mature adult manner and deal with life
>experiences in the manner of a man. It is not about changing his gender
>into a woman.
>
>> that the Doctor is a trickster, not a hero archetype, so the
>> show has _never_ been about “the heroes(sic) journey.”
>>
>> If you don’t know that, you don’t know Doctor Who at all!
>>
>
>The Doctor is not Loki. The Doctor left Gallifrey to explore the
>universe and look for adventure, and as such the series is about the
>heroes journey.
>
Spot on!
>On 19/09/2021 09:12, solar imbecile wrote:
>> The True Doctor wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> The Doctor is a male character and therefore can only
>>> be played by a man. The show is about manhood and
>>> the heroes journey through adventure, not about the
>>> race and gender of the main protagonist.
>>>
>>
>> Ignoring the nonsense of “The show is about manhood …
>> not about … gender,” you’re overlooking the obvious fact
>
>Manhood is not about gender. It's about a male character discovering and
>learning how to behave in a mature adult manner and deal with life
>experiences in the manner of a man. It is not about changing his gender
>into a woman.
>
>> that the Doctor is a trickster, not a hero archetype, so the
>> show has _never_ been about “the heroes(sic) journey.”
>>
>> If you don’t know that, you don’t know Doctor Who at all!
>>
>
>The Doctor is not Loki. The Doctor left Gallifrey to explore the
>universe and look for adventure, and as such the series is about the
>heroes journey.
>
>--
>The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
>
>"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it
>stands for." -William Shatner
The Doctor
Sep 19, 2021, 6:23:33 PM9/19/21
to
In article <m5CdnWJaua5jH9r8...@brightview.co.uk>,
>--
>The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
>
>"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it
>stands for." -William Shatner
The True Doctor <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>On 19/09/2021 17:16, solar imbecile wrote:
>> Tim typed:
>>
>>> 2451 On Sunday, September 19, 2021 at 1:12:50 AM UTC-7, solar penguin wrote:
>>>> The True Doctor wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The Doctor is a male character and therefore can only
>>>>> be played by a man. The show is about manhood and
>>>>> the heroes journey through adventure, not about the
>>>>> race and gender of the main protagonist.
>>>>>
>>>> Ignoring the nonsense of “The show is about manhood …
>>>> not about … gender,” you’re overlooking the obvious fact
>>>> that the Doctor is a trickster, not a hero archetype, so the
>>>> show has _never_ been about “the heroes(sic) journey.”
>>>>
>>>> If you don’t know that, you don’t know Doctor Who at all!
>>>
>>> Isn't the Doctor BOTH hero AND trickster, and thus qualify
>>> for hero archetype hood?
>>>
>>
>> The Doctor is heroic, but isn’t a hero archetype in the specific
>> sense of the Hero’s Journey.
>>
>
>Yes he damned well is. Doctor Who is no different to the Odyssey and the
>Doctor is no different to Odysseus who uses his knowledge and cunning to
>defeat the monsters and villains he encounters on his journey. He's not
>Loki whose modus operandi is to cause mischief with his lies for his own
>personal pleasure and advancement.
>
Spot on!!
>> Tim typed:
>>
>>> 2451 On Sunday, September 19, 2021 at 1:12:50 AM UTC-7, solar penguin wrote:
>>>> The True Doctor wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The Doctor is a male character and therefore can only
>>>>> be played by a man. The show is about manhood and
>>>>> the heroes journey through adventure, not about the
>>>>> race and gender of the main protagonist.
>>>>>
>>>> Ignoring the nonsense of “The show is about manhood …
>>>> not about … gender,” you’re overlooking the obvious fact
>>>> that the Doctor is a trickster, not a hero archetype, so the
>>>> show has _never_ been about “the heroes(sic) journey.”
>>>>
>>>> If you don’t know that, you don’t know Doctor Who at all!
>>>
>>> Isn't the Doctor BOTH hero AND trickster, and thus qualify
>>> for hero archetype hood?
>>>
>>
>> The Doctor is heroic, but isn’t a hero archetype in the specific
>> sense of the Hero’s Journey.
>>
>
>Yes he damned well is. Doctor Who is no different to the Odyssey and the
>Doctor is no different to Odysseus who uses his knowledge and cunning to
>defeat the monsters and villains he encounters on his journey. He's not
>Loki whose modus operandi is to cause mischief with his lies for his own
>personal pleasure and advancement.
>
>--
>The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
>
>"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it
>stands for." -William Shatner
The Doctor
Sep 19, 2021, 6:23:56 PM9/19/21
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The Doctor
Sep 19, 2021, 6:26:35 PM9/19/21
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The Doctor
Sep 19, 2021, 6:27:38 PM9/19/21
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The Doctor
Sep 19, 2021, 6:28:22 PM9/19/21
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The Doctor
Sep 19, 2021, 6:28:39 PM9/19/21
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solar penguin
Sep 19, 2021, 6:28:53 PM9/19/21
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Tim typed:
> 2498 On Sunday, September 19, 2021 at 3:00:08 PM UTC-7, solar penguin wrote:
>> The True Idiot tried to insist:
>>>
Gallifrey to answer a question of my own.” Not a question
from anyone else.
--
solar penguin
> 2498 On Sunday, September 19, 2021 at 3:00:08 PM UTC-7, solar penguin wrote:
>> The True Idiot tried to insist:
>>>
>>> The Doctor left Gallifrey to explore the
>>> universe and look for adventure,
>>
>> That’s not the canonical reason why the Doctor left.
>>
>> “I left Gallifrey to answer a question of my own. By any analysis, evil
>> should always win. Good is not a practical survival strategy. It requires
>> loyalty, self-sacrifice and er, love. So, why does good prevail? What keeps
>> the balance between good and evil in this appalling universe? Is there some
>> kind of logic? Some mysterious force?”
>
> So the Doctor is merely conducting scientific research!
> But with Gallifrey gone, how will she report her findings?
>
Why would the Doctor need to report the findings? “I left
>>> universe and look for adventure,
>>
>> That’s not the canonical reason why the Doctor left.
>>
>> “I left Gallifrey to answer a question of my own. By any analysis, evil
>> should always win. Good is not a practical survival strategy. It requires
>> loyalty, self-sacrifice and er, love. So, why does good prevail? What keeps
>> the balance between good and evil in this appalling universe? Is there some
>> kind of logic? Some mysterious force?”
>
> So the Doctor is merely conducting scientific research!
> But with Gallifrey gone, how will she report her findings?
>
Gallifrey to answer a question of my own.” Not a question
from anyone else.
--
solar penguin
The Doctor
Sep 19, 2021, 6:30:23 PM9/19/21
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solar penguin
Sep 19, 2021, 6:31:21 PM9/19/21
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The Idiot insisted:
>
> All out boxing match.
Pickle-flavoured fascinator.
--
solar penguin
>
> All out boxing match.
Pickle-flavoured fascinator.
--
solar penguin
The Doctor
Sep 19, 2021, 6:52:04 PM9/19/21
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Idlehands
Sep 19, 2021, 7:16:53 PM9/19/21
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On 19/09/2021 12:28 p.m., The True Doctor wrote:
> On 19/09/2021 09:12, solar imbecile wrote:
>> The True Doctor wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> The Doctor is a male character and therefore can only
>>> be played by a man. The show is about manhood and
>>> the heroes journey through adventure, not about the
>>> race and gender of the main protagonist.
>>>
>>
>> Ignoring the nonsense of “The show is about manhood …
>> not about … gender,” you’re overlooking the obvious fact
>
> Manhood is not about gender. It's about a male character discovering and
> learning how to behave in a mature adult manner and deal with life
> experiences in the manner of a man. It is not about changing his gender
> into a woman.
>
So when you are going to enter "manhood"?
> On 19/09/2021 09:12, solar imbecile wrote:
>> The True Doctor wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> The Doctor is a male character and therefore can only
>>> be played by a man. The show is about manhood and
>>> the heroes journey through adventure, not about the
>>> race and gender of the main protagonist.
>>>
>>
>> Ignoring the nonsense of “The show is about manhood …
>> not about … gender,” you’re overlooking the obvious fact
>
> Manhood is not about gender. It's about a male character discovering and
> learning how to behave in a mature adult manner and deal with life
> experiences in the manner of a man. It is not about changing his gender
> into a woman.
>
>> that the Doctor is a trickster, not a hero archetype, so the
>> show has _never_ been about “the heroes(sic) journey.”
>>
>> If you don’t know that, you don’t know Doctor Who at all!
>>
>
> The Doctor is not Loki. The Doctor left Gallifrey to explore the
> universe and look for adventure, and as such the series is about the
> heroes journey.
>
writer wants the "Doctor" to be. However some have trouble dealing with
reality and strive to live in fiction.
--
"Circuses struggle to find new clowns as top prospects continue to go
into politics"
dailysquat.com
The True Doctor
Sep 19, 2021, 8:16:37 PM9/19/21
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On 19/09/2021 23:00, solar penguin wrote:
> The True Doctor wrote:
>
> The True Doctor wrote:
>
>> On 19/09/2021 09:12, solar imbecile wrote:
>>> The True Doctor wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> The Doctor is a male character and therefore can only
>>>> be played by a man. The show is about manhood and
>>>> the heroes journey through adventure, not about the
>>>> race and gender of the main protagonist.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Ignoring the nonsense of “The show is about manhood …
>>> not about … gender,” you’re overlooking the obvious fact
>>
>> Manhood is not about gender. It's about a male character
>
> And therefore is at least partly about gender.
>
No. The character's gender is never questioned. The Doctor is a man and
>>>
>>>>
>>>> The Doctor is a male character and therefore can only
>>>> be played by a man. The show is about manhood and
>>>> the heroes journey through adventure, not about the
>>>> race and gender of the main protagonist.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Ignoring the nonsense of “The show is about manhood …
>>> not about … gender,” you’re overlooking the obvious fact
>>
>> Manhood is not about gender. It's about a male character
>
> And therefore is at least partly about gender.
>
the show is about manhood.
>> discovering and
>> learning how to behave in a mature adult manner and deal with life
>> experiences in the manner of a man. It is not about changing his gender
>> into a woman.
>
> There’s a difference between “something that happens
> in a story” and “what the story is about.”
>
> If a story isn’t about gender, then by definition it doesn’t
> really matter what gender the characters just happen to be.
>
woman is not a man and can in no way credibly act and behave like a man
since an average man is twice as strong as an average woman, doesn't get
pregnant or give birth, and produces different hormones which control
his behaviour.
The only way a woman can stay alive being chased by men is by running
and hiding and using her wits. A man on the other hand can do all of
that plus he is also able to fight. This is of course assuming that he
is bigger and therefore stronger than them.
This is why traditional story telling which has endured for millenia is
based on the concept of the male hero rescuing the female heroine from
danger and obtaining his rewards.
>>
>>> that the Doctor is a trickster, not a hero archetype, so the
>>> show has _never_ been about “the heroes(sic) journey.”
>>>
>>> If you don’t know that, you don’t know Doctor Who at all!
>>>
>>
>> The Doctor is not Loki.
>
> Tell that to the people in charge of the MCU who recently
> made Loki into a sort-of time-travelling policeman!
>
> But despite that I actually agree with you. The Doctor is
> more of an El-ahrairah or Anansi style of trickster.
>
based on that of Odysseus, and this was explained by the BBC in
children's documentaries from the 1970s.
>> The Doctor left Gallifrey to explore the
>> universe and look for adventure,
>
> That’s not the canonical reason why the Doctor left.
>
> “I left Gallifrey to answer a question of my own. By any analysis, evil
> should always win. Good is not a practical survival strategy. It requires
> loyalty, self-sacrifice and er, love. So, why does good prevail? What keeps
> the balance between good and evil in this appalling universe? Is there some
> kind of logic? Some mysterious force?”
be considered as being canon.
One man's good is another man's evil and vica versa. The terms are
totally subjective and are not and never can be held as absolutes. If
Moffat actually understood the philosophical argument he would have been
writing about right and wrong, which are absolutes, and are not subjective.
>
>> and as such the series is about the
>> heroes journey.
>>
>
> You seem to know as little about the content of the Hero’s
> Journey as you do about spelling its name. It involves more
> than just looking for adventure.
>
"In narratology and comparative mythology, the hero's journey, or the
monomyth, is the common template of stories that involve a hero who goes
on an adventure, is victorious in a decisive crisis, and comes home
changed or transformed."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hero%27s_journey
The Doctor goes on adventure, he is victories, and he returns to his
home with new knowledge and learning having explored strange new worlds,
discovered new life and new civilisation, and boldly gone when no man
has gone before.
The Doctor
Sep 19, 2021, 8:28:19 PM9/19/21
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In article <7f6dnWowTph-T9r8...@brightview.co.uk>,
Right on TTD!
The True Doctor <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
The True Doctor
Sep 19, 2021, 10:35:29 PM9/19/21
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On 19/09/2021 23:11, solar imbecile wrote:
> The True Doctor wrote:
>
> The True Doctor wrote:
>
>> On 19/09/2021 17:16, solar imbecile wrote:
>>>
>>> The Doctor is heroic, but isn’t a hero archetype in the specific
>>> sense of the Hero’s Journey.
>>>
>>
>> Yes he damned well is. Doctor Who is no different to the Odyssey and the
>> Doctor is no different to Odysseus who uses his knowledge and cunning to
>> defeat the monsters and villains he encounters on his journey.
>
> Eh? Are you really saying that Odysseus isn’t a trickster?
> Of course he is!
No he isn't. Unlike Loki his reason de etre is not to use trickery to
>>>
>>> The Doctor is heroic, but isn’t a hero archetype in the specific
>>> sense of the Hero’s Journey.
>>>
>>
>> Yes he damned well is. Doctor Who is no different to the Odyssey and the
>> Doctor is no different to Odysseus who uses his knowledge and cunning to
>> defeat the monsters and villains he encounters on his journey.
>
> Eh? Are you really saying that Odysseus isn’t a trickster?
> Of course he is!
cause mischief. He uses deception to gain a tactical advantage like any
military commander would do.
>
>> He's not
>> Loki whose modus operandi is to cause mischief with his lies for his own
>> personal pleasure and advancement.
>>
>
> Loki isn’t a typical trickster. Like I said in my previous post,
> the Doctor is more like El-ahrairah or Anansi or Coyote
> than Loki.
>
literature like the Iliad and Argonautica which define the Hero's
Journey. You can go as far as including Sindbad and d'Artagnan, but we
are not dealing with tricksters. We are dealing with someone who fights
monsters which he'd rather stay away from. The Doctor starts off as a
grumpy old man who is not willing to risk his life for anyone and wants
to remain isolated and to himself along with his granddaughter. During
his hero's journey he develops the courage to risk his life for others
and learns compassion. He is not out there to get kicks out of causing
mischief, deceiving people, and making people suffer. He's there to
fight for what is right, undo wrongs, and save his companions from danger.
The True Doctor
Sep 19, 2021, 10:46:00 PM9/19/21
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On 20/09/2021 00:16, Idlehands wrote:
> On 19/09/2021 12:28 p.m., The True Doctor wrote:
>> On 19/09/2021 09:12, solar imbecile wrote:
>>> The True Doctor wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> The Doctor is a male character and therefore can only
>>>> be played by a man. The show is about manhood and
>>>> the heroes journey through adventure, not about the
>>>> race and gender of the main protagonist.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Ignoring the nonsense of “The show is about manhood …
>>> not about … gender,” you’re overlooking the obvious fact
>>
>> Manhood is not about gender. It's about a male character discovering
>> and learning how to behave in a mature adult manner and deal with life
>> experiences in the manner of a man. It is not about changing his
>> gender into a woman.
>>
>
> So when you are going to enter "manhood"?
>
I did that years ago. When are you?
> On 19/09/2021 12:28 p.m., The True Doctor wrote:
>> On 19/09/2021 09:12, solar imbecile wrote:
>>> The True Doctor wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> The Doctor is a male character and therefore can only
>>>> be played by a man. The show is about manhood and
>>>> the heroes journey through adventure, not about the
>>>> race and gender of the main protagonist.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Ignoring the nonsense of “The show is about manhood …
>>> not about … gender,” you’re overlooking the obvious fact
>>
>> Manhood is not about gender. It's about a male character discovering
>> and learning how to behave in a mature adult manner and deal with life
>> experiences in the manner of a man. It is not about changing his
>> gender into a woman.
>>
>
> So when you are going to enter "manhood"?
>
>>> that the Doctor is a trickster, not a hero archetype, so the
>>> show has _never_ been about “the heroes(sic) journey.”
>>>
>>> If you don’t know that, you don’t know Doctor Who at all!
>>>
>>
>> The Doctor is not Loki. The Doctor left Gallifrey to explore the
>> universe and look for adventure, and as such the series is about the
>> heroes journey.
>>
>
> The "Doctor" is fiction, like Loki and therefore can be anything the
> writer wants the "Doctor" to be. However some have trouble dealing with
> reality and strive to live in fiction.
>
Do you understand the basics of literature and story writing?
The Doctor has a pre-defined character which is what makes him the
Doctor. If he does something which does not fall within the restrictions
of his character then he cannot be the Doctor, but is a different
character altogether.
The writers cannot make the Doctor shoot laser beams from his eyes to
evaporate a tidal wave which is set to engulf New York. That is not the
character of the Doctor, it's the character of Superman.
The writers cannot have the Doctor extending metallic claws from his
wrists so he can cut up a giant crocodilian monster terrorizing the
city. That is not the character of the Doctor, it's the character of
Wolverine.
Similarly the writers cannot rewrite the Doctor's backstory so that he's
a baby black girl that was repeatedly murdered by her adoptive mother
and turned into every race and gender one the planet Earth. That is not
the character of the Doctor, it's the character of Doomsday!
Doctor Who ended in 2017. The Timeless Child is not the Doctor nor is
the series which has Jodie Whittaker playing it Doctor Who.
tsbru...@gmail.com
Sep 19, 2021, 11:08:36 PM9/19/21
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>
> The writers cannot make the Doctor shoot laser beams from his eyes to
> evaporate a tidal wave which is set to engulf New York. That is not the
> character of the Doctor, it's the character of Superman.
>
> The writers cannot have the Doctor extending metallic claws from his
> wrists so he can cut up a giant crocodilian monster terrorizing the
> city. That is not the character of the Doctor, it's the character of
> Wolverine.
>
> Similarly the writers cannot rewrite the Doctor's backstory so that he's
> a baby black girl that was repeatedly murdered by her adoptive mother
> and turned into every race and gender one the planet Earth. That is not
> the character of the Doctor, it's the character of Doomsday!
Will Doomsday sue Chibnall for stealing his backstory?
> The writers cannot make the Doctor shoot laser beams from his eyes to
> evaporate a tidal wave which is set to engulf New York. That is not the
> character of the Doctor, it's the character of Superman.
>
> The writers cannot have the Doctor extending metallic claws from his
> wrists so he can cut up a giant crocodilian monster terrorizing the
> city. That is not the character of the Doctor, it's the character of
> Wolverine.
>
> Similarly the writers cannot rewrite the Doctor's backstory so that he's
> a baby black girl that was repeatedly murdered by her adoptive mother
> and turned into every race and gender one the planet Earth. That is not
> the character of the Doctor, it's the character of Doomsday!
>
> Doctor Who ended in 2017. The Timeless Child is not the Doctor nor is
> the series which has Jodie Whittaker playing it Doctor Who.
So a simple matter of the Doctor's CHARACTER changing too much, not a matter of Time Lord HISTORY changing too much! What say you %, Blueshirt, Coca Cola Kid, Daniel65, Idlehands, Last Doctor, Mike M, Pudentame, Rachael, roach, solar penguin, and Wouter?
> Doctor Who ended in 2017. The Timeless Child is not the Doctor nor is
> the series which has Jodie Whittaker playing it Doctor Who.
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The Doctor
Sep 20, 2021, 1:10:55 AM9/20/21
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In article <Y6KdnckzIcrybtr8...@brightview.co.uk>,
Spot on!
>--
>The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
>
>"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it
>stands for." -William Shatner
The True Doctor <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>--
>The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
>
>"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it
>stands for." -William Shatner
The Doctor
Sep 20, 2021, 1:12:08 AM9/20/21
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In article <ouCdnY0HuKp6aNr8...@brightview.co.uk>,
Well said!
>--
>The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
>
>"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it
>stands for." -William Shatner
The True Doctor <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>--
>The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
>
>"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it
>stands for." -William Shatner
The Doctor
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On 19/09/2021 23:28, solar penguin wrote:
> Tim typed:
>
>> 2498 On Sunday, September 19, 2021 at 3:00:08 PM UTC-7, solar penguin wrote:
> Tim typed:
>
>>> The True Idiot tried to insist:
>>>>
>>>> The Doctor left Gallifrey to explore the
>>>> universe and look for adventure,
>>>
>>>> The Doctor left Gallifrey to explore the
>>>> universe and look for adventure,
>>>
>>> That’s not the canonical reason why the Doctor left.
>>>
>>>
>>> “I left Gallifrey to answer a question of my own. By any analysis, evil
>>> should always win. Good is not a practical survival strategy. It requires
>>> loyalty, self-sacrifice and er, love. So, why does good prevail? What keeps
>>> the balance between good and evil in this appalling universe? Is there some
>>> kind of logic? Some mysterious force?”
>>
>>> should always win. Good is not a practical survival strategy. It requires
>>> loyalty, self-sacrifice and er, love. So, why does good prevail? What keeps
>>> the balance between good and evil in this appalling universe? Is there some
>>> kind of logic? Some mysterious force?”
>>
>> So the Doctor is merely conducting scientific research!
>> But with Gallifrey gone, how will she report her findings?
>>
>
> Why would the Doctor need to report the findings? “I left
> Gallifrey to answer a question of my own.” Not a question
> from anyone else.
>
It's a very nice speech but doesn't really explain why he initially felt
>> But with Gallifrey gone, how will she report her findings?
>>
>
> Why would the Doctor need to report the findings? “I left
> Gallifrey to answer a question of my own.” Not a question
> from anyone else.
>
he could not return (apart from not being able to actually navigate the
TARDIS) or was so terrified of being caught by the Time Lords and taken
home. Stealing a malfunctioning TARDIS might be the reason, but surely
he could have found a legitimate way to leave Gallifrey? Many other Time
Lords had done so ...
--
There are some corners of the universe which have bred the most terrible
things. Things which act against everything we believe in.
They must be /fought/.
solar penguin
Sep 20, 2021, 5:52:20 AM9/20/21
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The True Idiot tried to insist:
> On 19/09/2021 23:11, solar imbecile wrote:
>> The True Idiot tried to insist:
>>
>>> On 19/09/2021 17:16, solar imbecile wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The Doctor is heroic, but isn’t a hero archetype in the specific
>>>> sense of the Hero’s Journey.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes he damned well is. Doctor Who is no different to the Odyssey and the
>>> Doctor is no different to Odysseus who uses his knowledge and cunning to
>>> defeat the monsters and villains he encounters on his journey.
>>
>> Eh? Are you really saying that Odysseus isn’t a trickster?
>> Of course he is!
>
> No he isn't. Unlike Loki his reason de etre is not to use trickery to
> cause mischief.
There is more to the Trickster archetype than just causing
>>> On 19/09/2021 17:16, solar imbecile wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The Doctor is heroic, but isn’t a hero archetype in the specific
>>>> sense of the Hero’s Journey.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes he damned well is. Doctor Who is no different to the Odyssey and the
>>> Doctor is no different to Odysseus who uses his knowledge and cunning to
>>> defeat the monsters and villains he encounters on his journey.
>>
>> Eh? Are you really saying that Odysseus isn’t a trickster?
>> Of course he is!
>
> No he isn't. Unlike Loki his reason de etre is not to use trickery to
> cause mischief.
mischief for mischief’s sake. That wasn’t even your beloved
Loki’s only motivation in the Norse myths.
Take time to read up on more about Tricksters, from tribal
folklore figures like Anansi and Coyote, via the Harlequin
of comedia dell’arte, to Cosmo Brown in “Singin’ in the
Rain” and beyond, then come back and we can continue
this conversation.
See you then.
--
solar penguin
tsbr...@gmail.com
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On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 2:52:20 AM UTC-7, solar penguin wrote:
> The True Idiot tried to insist:
Did he succeed?
> The True Idiot tried to insist:
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2587 On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 12:31:25 AM UTC-7, The Last Doctor wrote:
> On 19/09/2021 23:28, solar penguin wrote:
> > Tim typed:
> >
> >> 2498 On Sunday, September 19, 2021 at 3:00:08 PM UTC-7, solar penguin wrote:
> >>> The True Idiot tried to insist:
> >>>>
> >>>> The Doctor left Gallifrey to explore the
> >>>> universe and look for adventure,
> >>>
> >>> That’s not the canonical reason why the Doctor left.
> >>>
> >>> “I left Gallifrey to answer a question of my own. By any analysis, evil
> >>> should always win. Good is not a practical survival strategy. It requires
> >>> loyalty, self-sacrifice and er, love. So, why does good prevail? What keeps
> >>> the balance between good and evil in this appalling universe? Is there some
> >>> kind of logic? Some mysterious force?”
> >>
> >> So the Doctor is merely conducting scientific research!
> >> But with Gallifrey gone, how will she report her findings?
> >>
> >
> > Why would the Doctor need to report the findings? “I left
> > Gallifrey to answer a question of my own.” Not a question
> > from anyone else.
> >
> It's a very nice speech but doesn't really explain why he initially felt
> he could not return (apart from not being able to actually navigate the
> TARDIS) or was so terrified of being caught by the Time Lords and taken
> home. Stealing a malfunctioning TARDIS might be the reason, but surely
> he could have found a legitimate way to leave Gallifrey? Many other Time
> Lords had done so ...
Maybe the government was not willing to let him emigrate!
> On 19/09/2021 23:28, solar penguin wrote:
> > Tim typed:
> >
> >> 2498 On Sunday, September 19, 2021 at 3:00:08 PM UTC-7, solar penguin wrote:
> >>> The True Idiot tried to insist:
> >>>>
> >>>> The Doctor left Gallifrey to explore the
> >>>> universe and look for adventure,
> >>>
> >>> That’s not the canonical reason why the Doctor left.
> >>>
> >>> “I left Gallifrey to answer a question of my own. By any analysis, evil
> >>> should always win. Good is not a practical survival strategy. It requires
> >>> loyalty, self-sacrifice and er, love. So, why does good prevail? What keeps
> >>> the balance between good and evil in this appalling universe? Is there some
> >>> kind of logic? Some mysterious force?”
> >>
> >> So the Doctor is merely conducting scientific research!
> >> But with Gallifrey gone, how will she report her findings?
> >>
> >
> > Why would the Doctor need to report the findings? “I left
> > Gallifrey to answer a question of my own.” Not a question
> > from anyone else.
> >
> It's a very nice speech but doesn't really explain why he initially felt
> he could not return (apart from not being able to actually navigate the
> TARDIS) or was so terrified of being caught by the Time Lords and taken
> home. Stealing a malfunctioning TARDIS might be the reason, but surely
> he could have found a legitimate way to leave Gallifrey? Many other Time
> Lords had done so ...
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