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Woodzo

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Oct 18, 2004, 12:13:00 PM10/18/04
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Has everyone seen the new logo?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/news/drwho/2004/01/18/14927.shtml

What are your thoughts?


Nod

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Oct 18, 2004, 1:00:41 PM10/18/04
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Looks like it was done by a kid.

What's really sad is that it took FIVE people to work on it!!!!

And how will it look on the DVd's?? Stick to the classic one that they
revamped for McGann.

Nod

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John Pertwee

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Oct 18, 2004, 2:21:31 PM10/18/04
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It sucks.

I am sure the show will be great, but DAMN!


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Dan Ludlow

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Oct 18, 2004, 2:15:03 PM10/18/04
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I'm a little disappointed as it's quite bland writing on a background. I
don't know how it will look on book covers, but the key to it's success is
how it fits into the title sequence.

Overall 5/10 I think.


Giga Wraith

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"Woodzo" <woo...@REMOVETHISgmail.com> wrote in message
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> Has everyone seen the new logo?
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/news/drwho/2004/01/18/14927.shtml
>
> What are your thoughts?
>
>

Excellent! At least they spelled it right and it has a nice redish/orangish
background. I've always liked that. That and blue. And pink. Oh yes -
gotta love the pink.

-Wraith-


Stephen Wilson

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Oct 18, 2004, 4:35:32 PM10/18/04
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"Woodzo" <woo...@REMOVETHISgmail.com> wrote in message
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> Has everyone seen the new logo?
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/news/drwho/2004/01/18/14927.shtml
>
> What are your thoughts?

Um. Disappointing? The lettering is some bog standard font and it's got an
annying background behind it that only serves to distract.


Sio

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Oct 18, 2004, 4:53:35 PM10/18/04
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"Woodzo" <woo...@REMOVETHISgmail.com> wrote in message
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> Has everyone seen the new logo?
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/news/drwho/2004/01/18/14927.shtml
>
> What are your thoughts?
>
>

I like it.
nothing over the top, someting plain and simple.


Duncan Corps

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Oct 18, 2004, 4:47:42 PM10/18/04
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Woodzo wrote:
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/news/drwho/2004/01/18/14927.shtml
>
> What are your thoughts?

Hrm... awful. But I doubt it's The One because it matches the
description in Production Notes (in Doctor Who Magazine number 346) of a
rejected logo;

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And it doesn't match the description quoted in
http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?selm=200410052123179315%25stuartburns%40blueyondercouk
, not that that matters much.

Oh, why does it need a new logo? Like having a new Doctor, I see it as
an unnecessary change.


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aaron pynn

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Oct 18, 2004, 5:37:26 PM10/18/04
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So what is this the reflection of the words Doctor Who out of a komodo
dragon's eye?

It's truly horrid. Thankfully they have a great cast and let's hope they
change it by mid to next season.

Alastair Meiklejohn

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Oct 18, 2004, 6:13:38 PM10/18/04
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Hrrrrrm. It *does* look a bit better when viewed as wallpaper.

A bit.

Dan Ludlow

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Oct 18, 2004, 6:30:57 PM10/18/04
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"aaron pynn" <acp...@nf.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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It's truly horrid. Thankfully they have a great cast and let's hope they
change it by mid to next season.

You'll be happy to know that Outpost Gallifrey have changed their colour
scheme to match. The new on is terrible!


Chris Heffernan

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Oct 18, 2004, 6:34:54 PM10/18/04
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On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:13:00 +0100, "Woodzo"
<woo...@REMOVETHISgmail.com> wrote:


I kind of like it. :)

I have to laugh at some of the angry responses to it, but I do agree
with the response about the revamped Pertwee one used for McGann. I
thought it was quite good also.

Chris

The Doctor

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Oct 18, 2004, 6:50:46 PM10/18/04
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In article <1098115905.IPHy70xjg/NIq1hkwXTAOg@teranews>,

LOVE IT!! Opening sequence is next.
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Oct 18, 2004, 6:51:21 PM10/18/04
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In article <ZEScd.104891$BI5....@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,

Nod <N...@DEATHBADGERblueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>Looks like it was done by a kid.
>
>What's really sad is that it took FIVE people to work on it!!!!
>
>And how will it look on the DVd's?? Stick to the classic one that they
>revamped for McGann.
>
> Nod
>

Do not forget DW is meant to be family TV.


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>"Woodzo" <woo...@REMOVETHISgmail.com> wrote in message
>news:1098115905.IPHy70xjg/NIq1hkwXTAOg@teranews...
>> Has everyone seen the new logo?
>>
>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/news/drwho/2004/01/18/14927.shtml
>>
>> What are your thoughts?
>>
>>
>
>

The Doctor

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Oct 18, 2004, 6:51:49 PM10/18/04
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In article <8c28n0ln3cfft3su7...@4ax.com>,

John Pertwee <JohnPer...@yahooo.com > wrote:
>On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:13:00 +0100, "Woodzo"
><woo...@REMOVETHISgmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Has everyone seen the new logo?
>>
>>http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/news/drwho/2004/01/18/14927.shtml
>>
>>What are your thoughts?
>>
>
>It sucks.
>
>I am sure the show will be great, but DAMN!

What aboutthe opening sequence?

The Doctor

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Oct 18, 2004, 6:55:24 PM10/18/04
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Right on Outpost!!

Warchild

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Oct 18, 2004, 7:01:43 PM10/18/04
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In article <1098115905.IPHy70xjg/NIq1hkwXTAOg@teranews>,
"Woodzo" <woo...@REMOVETHISgmail.com> wrote:

Nice as it is, it is still part of an animated sequence - so it hard to
tell what the overall impact will be.

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John Pertwee

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Oct 18, 2004, 7:42:36 PM10/18/04
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On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 22:51:49 +0000 (UTC), doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca
(The Doctor) wrote:

>In article <8c28n0ln3cfft3su7...@4ax.com>,
>John Pertwee <JohnPer...@yahooo.com > wrote:
>>On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:13:00 +0100, "Woodzo"
>><woo...@REMOVETHISgmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Has everyone seen the new logo?
>>>
>>>http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/news/drwho/2004/01/18/14927.shtml
>>>
>>>What are your thoughts?
>>>
>>
>>It sucks.
>>
>>I am sure the show will be great, but DAMN!
>
>What aboutthe opening sequence?

Remains to be seen...

Andrew McCaffrey

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Oct 18, 2004, 8:21:04 PM10/18/04
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> What are your thoughts?

Bleh.

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The Doctor

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Oct 18, 2004, 8:34:24 PM10/18/04
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In article <none-3CAFB7.1...@news1.west.earthlink.net>,

What till we see the sequence.

The Doctor

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Oct 18, 2004, 8:34:57 PM10/18/04
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In article <v6l8n0l55gipa96kk...@4ax.com>,

John Pertwee <JohnPer...@yahooo.com > wrote:
>On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 22:51:49 +0000 (UTC), doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca
>(The Doctor) wrote:
>
>>In article <8c28n0ln3cfft3su7...@4ax.com>,
>>John Pertwee <JohnPer...@yahooo.com > wrote:
>>>On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:13:00 +0100, "Woodzo"
>>><woo...@REMOVETHISgmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Has everyone seen the new logo?
>>>>
>>>>http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/news/drwho/2004/01/18/14927.shtml
>>>>
>>>>What are your thoughts?
>>>>
>>>
>>>It sucks.
>>>
>>>I am sure the show will be great, but DAMN!
>>
>>What aboutthe opening sequence?
>
>Remains to be seen...
>

My thoughts exactly!

Solar Penguin

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Oct 19, 2004, 12:04:06 AM10/19/04
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--- Woodzo said:

Well, on the bright side, it does look suitably retro. A sort of
old-fashioned futuristic style. Pretty much captures the who
old-fashioned yet futuristic feel of DW. Yeah, it could work as the DW
logo.

OTOH outside of a DW context, judged solely on its merits as a piece of
artwork, it's crap.


Sean Huxter

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Oct 19, 2004, 12:28:17 AM10/19/04
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It looks amateurish, poorly thought out and unimpressive.

Simple text is never a bad idea, but what's with the firey eye?

It invokes more Sauron than Doctor Who.

I think they would have been wiser to do the text without background, in a
TARDIS blue.

Sean.

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La Wraithette

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Oct 19, 2004, 1:15:27 AM10/19/04
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"Woodzo" <woo...@REMOVETHISgmail.com> wrote in message
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> Has everyone seen the new logo?
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/news/drwho/2004/01/18/14927.shtml
>
> What are your thoughts?
>
>

I was hoping for something a little more sexy. But this will do.

Linda O'Neil
http://www.lindaoneil.com


Fett

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>From: "Woodzo" woo...@REMOVETHISgmail.com
>Date: 10/18/2004 12:13 PM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <1098115905.IPHy70xjg/NIq1hkwXTAOg@teranews>

>
>Has everyone seen the new logo?
>
>http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/news/drwho/2004/01/18/14927.shtml
>
>What are your thoughts?
>

As a logo by itself, it kinda sucks. But if you watch it as part of an opening
sequence it just may work fine.

-Fett

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Oct 19, 2004, 2:19:59 AM10/19/04
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it is fucking terrible.

i really thought it would be good, it is so poor, so derivative. god
almighty could they not do better.

On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:13:00 +0100, "Woodzo"
<woo...@REMOVETHISgmail.com> wrote:

>Has everyone seen the new logo?
>
>http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/news/drwho/2004/01/18/14927.shtml
>
>What are your thoughts?
>
>

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Oct 19, 2004, 3:05:58 AM10/19/04
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It's a little too "Eye of Sauron" for me. Maybe these people were watching
too much LOTR during the design process.


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Bob

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Oct 19, 2004, 4:10:46 AM10/19/04
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In article <20041019014727...@mb-m16.aol.com>,
fett...@aol.comedyshack (Fett) wrote:


But the whole point of designing a logo is to ensure it works as a
branding tool! It may look okay as part of the title sequence but this
thing will be slapped on every bit of official merchandise, including the
magazine, where it'll look insipid and amateurish. So far I haven't been
impressed with any of the design I've seen for this series.


Bob

Dan Ludlow

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Oct 19, 2004, 5:32:19 AM10/19/04
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"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
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Right on Outpost!!<<<

I changed my settings so that I could use the old one as the new one's
really garish! I really wish that they would have waited a bit longer before
radically revamping the colour scheme to try and match the logo.

Dan

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The Doctor

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In article <Pp1dd.26455$_g6.3494@okepread03>,

Welcome newcomer. I will look at your website.

Giga Wraith

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> >Linda O'Neil
> >http://www.lindaoneil.com
> >
> >
>
> Welcome newcomer. I will look at your website.
> --
>

Don't do it! It's those boobs of hers! that's how she got me!

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John Pertwee

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On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 10:37:39 +0000 (UTC), doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca
(The Doctor) wrote:

>In article <Pp1dd.26455$_g6.3494@okepread03>,
>La Wraithette <Li...@lindaoneil.com> wrote:
>>
>>"Woodzo" <woo...@REMOVETHISgmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:1098115905.IPHy70xjg/NIq1hkwXTAOg@teranews...
>>> Has everyone seen the new logo?
>>>
>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/news/drwho/2004/01/18/14927.shtml
>>>
>>> What are your thoughts?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>I was hoping for something a little more sexy. But this will do.
>>
>>Linda O'Neil
>>http://www.lindaoneil.com
>>
>>
>
>Welcome newcomer. I will look at your website.

If that is the real Linda O'Neil I will eat my hat

Emmemm

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Um, it's the Eye of Sauron. How come no-one noticed and how much
licence-payer's money was wasted???

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Taleya

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Oct 19, 2004, 3:27:24 PM10/19/04
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The Eye of Sauron......


well, let's just say the first time I saw it, I didn't think it was an
eye.


Emmemm wrote:

> Um, it's the Eye of Sauron. How come no-one noticed and how much
> licence-payer's money was wasted???
>

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Woodzo wrote in message <1098115905.IPHy70xjg/NIq1hkwXTAOg@teranews>...

>Has everyone seen the new logo?
>
>http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/news/drwho/2004/01/18/14927.shtml
>
>What are your thoughts?
>


I think it looks better after inverting the colour - lovely shades of blue.
A nice Dalek extermination colour.

As it is, it's fine. Could be better - could have been much worse though!

David Embery

Andrew

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"Brian" <n...@no.no> wrote in message
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> "Woodzo" <woo...@REMOVETHISgmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Has everyone seen the new logo?
>>
>>http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/news/drwho/2004/01/18/14927.shtml
>>
>>What are your thoughts?
>>
>
> it's something a first year design student would knock up in their
> first ever photoshop lesson. look mom, i learned how to use the render
> lens flare filter today. i can't wait until i get a job at the bbc so
> i can show everyone how clever i am for finding it.
>

Just because lens flare is *common* doesn't mean it shouldn't be used; if
anything it's more appropriate here in the context of space travel, SF etc.
Maybe when we've seen it used for five years we'll all get nostalgic and
claim how we always loved it from the beginning...

;-))


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"Sean Huxter" <sean....@SPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
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> It looks amateurish, poorly thought out and unimpressive.
>
> Simple text is never a bad idea, but what's with the firey eye?
>
> It invokes more Sauron than Doctor Who.
>
How exactly?


> I think they would have been wiser to do the text without background, in a
> TARDIS blue.

Why blue? I like the fiery colour scheme.

The Doctor

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Oct 19, 2004, 6:26:31 PM10/19/04
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In article <w6-dnR7s7I0...@giganews.com>,
>\

It may not be her.

The Doctor

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In article <9hman05id0g78lgbe...@4ax.com>,

John Pertwee <JohnPer...@yahooo.com > wrote:
>On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 10:37:39 +0000 (UTC), doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca
>(The Doctor) wrote:
>
>>In article <Pp1dd.26455$_g6.3494@okepread03>,
>>La Wraithette <Li...@lindaoneil.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>"Woodzo" <woo...@REMOVETHISgmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:1098115905.IPHy70xjg/NIq1hkwXTAOg@teranews...
>>>> Has everyone seen the new logo?
>>>>
>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/news/drwho/2004/01/18/14927.shtml
>>>>
>>>> What are your thoughts?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>I was hoping for something a little more sexy. But this will do.
>>>
>>>Linda O'Neil
>>>http://www.lindaoneil.com
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Welcome newcomer. I will look at your website.
>
>If that is the real Linda O'Neil I will eat my hat
>

I wonder if she is a DW fan.

Mr eBay

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"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
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> >If that is the real Linda O'Neil I will eat my hat
> >
>
> I wonder if she is a DW fan.

Hello. I am called Mr eBay. I am a DW fan. Please visit my site!

http://www.ebay.com


Luke Curtis

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On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:13:00 +0100, "Woodzo"
<woo...@REMOVETHISgmail.com> wrote:

>Has everyone seen the new logo?
>
>http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/news/drwho/2004/01/18/14927.shtml
>
>What are your thoughts?
>

Instant reaction was Nice background but poor font.

Looking at the bigger version
http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/doctorwho/newtv/whospy/logo2005.html

it seems to look a lot better, though I still think the font could
have been lees bland, perhaps an old gothic style for "Doctor" and an
ultra modern style font for "Who" to show the 2 extremes of time
travel...


I think it will grow on me eventualy.
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I know what you are blimey well saying.

Hobo King

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Oct 20, 2004, 12:24:44 AM10/20/04
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It's fine. Sooo many people on here would say it sucks no matter what it
looked like. They just can't wait to hate what they haven't seen yet.
Personally I don't understand this attitude and hope I never do.


Ian Moore

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Oct 20, 2004, 2:55:11 AM10/20/04
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"Woodzo" <woo...@REMOVETHISgmail.com> wrote in message news:<1098115905.IPHy70xjg/NIq1hkwXTAOg@teranews>...
> Has everyone seen the new logo?
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/news/drwho/2004/01/18/14927.shtml
>
> What are your thoughts?

It's okay. It says 'Doctor Who' which is the important thing. It's
nothing to get upset about.

Fett

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>From: ro...@ratnest.demon.co.uk (Bob)
>Date: 10/19/2004 4:10 AM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <robin-19100...@ratnest.demon.co.uk>

>
>In article <20041019014727...@mb-m16.aol.com>,
>fett...@aol.comedyshack (Fett) wrote:
>
>> >From: "Woodzo" woo...@REMOVETHISgmail.com
>> >Date: 10/18/2004 12:13 PM Eastern Standard Time
>> >Message-id: <1098115905.IPHy70xjg/NIq1hkwXTAOg@teranews>
>> >
>> >Has everyone seen the new logo?
>> >
>> >http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/news/drwho/2004/01/18/14927.shtml
>> >
>> >What are your thoughts?
>> >
>>
>> As a logo by itself, it kinda sucks. But if you watch it as part of an
>opening
>> sequence it just may work fine.
>>
>> -Fett
>
>
>But the whole point of designing a logo is to ensure it works as a
>branding tool! It may look okay as part of the title sequence but this
>thing will be slapped on every bit of official merchandise, including the
>magazine, where it'll look insipid and >amateurish.

Oh, I absolutely agree. It has to work for multiple forms of media.

> So far I haven't been
>impressed with any of the design I've >seen for this series.

Well, what have we seen other than the new logo and the new TARDIS?

-Fett


Ian Moore

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"Woodzo" <woo...@REMOVETHISgmail.com> wrote in message news:<1098115905.IPHy70xjg/NIq1hkwXTAOg@teranews>...
> Has everyone seen the new logo?
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/news/drwho/2004/01/18/14927.shtml
>
> What are your thoughts?

Right. I've taken up the challenge and designed my own logo.

http://img91.exs.cx/img91/2629/logo28.jpg

If RTD wishes to use this, I'm sure we can come to some sort of
financial agreement. Otherwise, if any of you other grubbing bastards
decide to steal it and use it in your own tawdry projects, I'll be
sending 'the boys' round. Doctor Who Online, I've got my eye on you.

anxious triffid

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ian.m...@virgin.net (Ian Moore) wrote in
news:370ead0f.04101...@posting.google.com:

> "Woodzo" <woo...@REMOVETHISgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:<1098115905.IPHy70xjg/NIq1hkwXTAOg@teranews>...
>> Has everyone seen the new logo?
>>
>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/news/drwho/2004/01/18/14927.shtml
>>
>> What are your thoughts?
>
> Right. I've taken up the challenge and designed my own logo.
>
> http://img91.exs.cx/img91/2629/logo28.jpg
>

The figure on the left doesn't look _anything_ like Billie Piper.

Sean Huxter

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Oct 20, 2004, 7:58:45 AM10/20/04
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How exactly does it invoke Sauron?

Oh, how about by being the EYE OF SAURON?


Why blue? The TARDIS is blue. Good enough for me. The TARDIS is the single
most recognizable icon in modern popular culture.


Sean.


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The Doctor

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In article <gMldd.774923$M95.547412@pd7tw1no>,

Some people are not with the times.

The Doctor

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In article <370ead0f.04101...@posting.google.com>,

Still what does the sequence look like?

Alastair Meiklejohn

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Oct 20, 2004, 9:09:34 AM10/20/04
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Taleya wrote:
> The Eye of Sauron......
>
>
> well, let's just say the first time I saw it, I didn't think it was an eye.


Hmm. The Fiery Cartoon Vagina of Sauron might have created marketing
difficulties.

John Pertwee

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Oct 20, 2004, 10:36:33 AM10/20/04
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On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 22:26:31 +0000 (UTC), doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca
(The Doctor) wrote:

>In article <w6-dnR7s7I0...@giganews.com>,
>Giga Wraith <Fuck...@ed.edu> wrote:
>>
>>"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
>>news:cl2qpj$q09$5...@gallifrey.nk.ca...
>>
>>> >Linda O'Neil
>>> >http://www.lindaoneil.com
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>> Welcome newcomer. I will look at your website.
>>> --
>>>
>>
>>Don't do it! It's those boobs of hers! that's how she got me!
>>\
>
>It may not be her.

What was your first clue, Sherlock?

Alastair Meiklejohn

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Oct 20, 2004, 10:48:57 AM10/20/04
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It looks better from a distance. As does Billie, so they have that in
common, at least.

Ian Moore

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Oct 20, 2004, 11:25:45 AM10/20/04
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On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 11:10:09 +0000 (UTC), anxious triffid
>> Right. I've taken up the challenge and designed my own logo.
>>
>> http://img91.exs.cx/img91/2629/logo28.jpg
>>
>
>The figure on the left doesn't look _anything_ like Billie Piper.

She's very shy.

The Doctor

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Oct 20, 2004, 12:52:52 PM10/20/04
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In article <2vtcn05f5nq9pj5fj...@4ax.com>,

John Pertwee <JohnPer...@yahooo.com > wrote:
>On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 22:26:31 +0000 (UTC), doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca
>(The Doctor) wrote:
>
>>In article <w6-dnR7s7I0...@giganews.com>,
>>Giga Wraith <Fuck...@ed.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
>>>news:cl2qpj$q09$5...@gallifrey.nk.ca...
>>>
>>>> >Linda O'Neil
>>>> >http://www.lindaoneil.com
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> Welcome newcomer. I will look at your website.
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>
>>>Don't do it! It's those boobs of hers! that's how she got me!
>>>\
>>
>>It may not be her.
>
>What was your first clue, Sherlock?
>

the second posting.

Andrew

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Oct 20, 2004, 1:28:59 PM10/20/04
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"Sean Huxter" <sean....@SPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
news:Vpsdd.5771$Ug4.896@trndny01...

> How exactly does it invoke Sauron?
>
> Oh, how about by being the EYE OF SAURON?

Logically (Captain) the Eye of Sauron is the Eye of Sauron; this is
something else. You might as well say that an orange on a stall in your
local market is the Eye of Sauron, they have as much in common. As for "Why
blue", why *not* orange?

John Long

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Oct 20, 2004, 1:30:02 PM10/20/04
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bring back the diamond logo, I say. Or an updated version of it.

JL


Taleya

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Oct 20, 2004, 4:08:58 PM10/20/04
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But think of the RingNuts! A pile of spotty virginal D&D players
flocking to a film with wizards and orcs and even better - a giant
flaming vagina!

Smart move, methinks :P

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Oct 20, 2004, 4:43:13 PM10/20/04
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Ian Moore <ian.m...@virgin.net> wrote in
news:7r0dn01c1sfsot7na...@4ax.com:

Ah, that explains the burqa.

Al Keeling

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Oct 20, 2004, 9:03:44 PM10/20/04
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Restrained, stylish, retro-looking. Best logo since 1975. Best thing
I've seen to do with this new series so far

Doktor K

Monsieur Tabernac

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Oct 20, 2004, 9:41:11 PM10/20/04
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On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 21:53:35 +0100, "Sio" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
>> What are your thoughts?
>I like it.
>nothing over the top, someting plain and simple.

I like it too -- sometimes less is more. However, the intricate
background leads me to suspect that the opening sequence will be some
sort of vast orange starfield which then dilates into what we're
seeing as the logo. I have a feeling we're seeing it out of context.
Regardless, I give it a thumbs up!

The Doctor

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Oct 20, 2004, 9:58:28 PM10/20/04
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In article <Xns9588DCBB09C20an...@217.32.252.50>,

She is moslem?

L. Ross Raszewski

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Oct 21, 2004, 1:01:09 AM10/21/04
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On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 11:58:45 GMT, Sean Huxter
<sean....@SPAMverizon.net> wrote:
>How exactly does it invoke Sauron?
>
>Oh, how about by being the EYE OF SAURON?
>
>

I must be the only person in the world who didn't see the similarity.

In fact, the first thing *I* thought was "Someone's seen 'Sky
Captain'."

And yes, I was expecting blue as well. Breaking expectations is good.

Duncan Corps

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Oct 21, 2004, 5:09:08 AM10/21/04
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Al Keeling wrote:
> Woodzo wrote:
>> Has everyone seen the new logo?
>>
>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/news/drwho/2004/01/18/14927.shtml
>>
>> What are your thoughts?
>
> Restrained, stylish, retro-looking. Best logo since 1975. Best thing I've
> seen to do with this new series so far

Sadly, I agree with the second sentence.
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Oct 21, 2004, 8:21:06 AM10/21/04
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In article <poHdd.1695$JC5.964@trnddc07>,

Many are calling it the LotR DW Logo.

J. J. Guest

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Oct 21, 2004, 5:58:46 PM10/21/04
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Duncan Corps <duncan...@nospam.fwei.org.uk> wrote in message news:<kuak42-...@fwei.org.uk>...

> Al Keeling wrote:
> > Woodzo wrote:
> >> Has everyone seen the new logo?
> >>
> >> http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/news/drwho/2004/01/18/14927.shtml
> >>
> >> What are your thoughts?
> >
> > Restrained, stylish, retro-looking. Best logo since 1975. Best thing I've
> > seen to do with this new series so far
>
> Sadly, I agree with the second sentence.

I agree. I'm very impressed (and relieved.) Unlike the Doctor's
costume, which to me feels utterly at odds with the character of the
show, this feels perfectly right. A bit retro, a bit art deco. I like
it. It's also a bit of a break with tradition. Am I right in thinking
that this is the first time that the word "Doctor" has not appeared
above the word "WHO"?

John Long

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Oct 21, 2004, 11:25:28 PM10/21/04
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It is better than:

the McCoy logo.
the neon Davison/Colin Baker logo
the Hartnell logo.
the Troughton logo.

It is NOT better than:

the diamond Pertwee/Baker logo
the Pertwee/McGann logo.

So it seems that it is more better than worse.

JL


US 71

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Oct 22, 2004, 12:48:46 AM10/22/04
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> On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:13:00 +0100, "Woodzo"
> <woo...@REMOVETHISgmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Has everyone seen the new logo?
>>
>>http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/news/drwho/2004/01/18/14927.shtml
>>
>>What are your thoughts?
>>
>

In words of one syllable: YUCK!!!!!!!


Ian Moore

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Oct 22, 2004, 5:12:22 AM10/22/04
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Alastair Meiklejohn <alastair....@virgin.nospam.net> wrote in message news:<tVudd.215$H9....@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net>...

>
> It looks better from a distance.

Is this 'hate mail'?

The Doctor

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Oct 22, 2004, 8:02:09 AM10/22/04
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In article <I4%dd.7963$17.16...@news1.epix.net>,

This is good perspective Long John.

Duncan Corps

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Oct 22, 2004, 7:41:28 AM10/22/04
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J. J. Guest wrote:
> Duncan Corps <duncan...@nospam.fwei.org.uk> wrote in message
> news:<kuak42-...@fwei.org.uk>...
>> Al Keeling wrote:
>>> Woodzo wrote:
>>>> Has everyone seen the new logo?
>>>
>>> Restrained, stylish, retro-looking. Best logo since 1975. Best thing I've
>>> seen to do with this new series so far
>>
>> Sadly, I agree with the second sentence.
>
> I agree. I'm very impressed (and relieved.)

I didn't mean it in a good way.

Alastair Meiklejohn

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Oct 22, 2004, 9:02:36 AM10/22/04
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Ian Moore wrote:

> Is this 'hate mail'?

Hell no. It's easily as good as the so-called official logo.

Andrew

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"John Long" <nos...@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:I4%dd.7963$17.16...@news1.epix.net...

Exactly. I was amazed how people are beginning to revise their opinion of
the typographic crimes of the 80's just because those logos are established
and this one is new. Being a fan is to a large extent about nostalgia, but
it's no good to us if it clouds our vision of what's happening now, or about
to happen.

Ian Moore

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Oct 23, 2004, 1:01:13 PM10/23/04
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Hurrah!!

;o)

gclap...@cix.compulink.co.uk

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Oct 18, 2004, 1:40:22 PM10/18/04
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In article <1098115905.IPHy70xjg/NIq1hkwXTAOg@teranews>,
woo...@REMOVETHISgmail.com (Woodzo) wrote:

> Has everyone seen the new logo?
>

I like it. A slightly retro feel but it's not been done before and it
doesn't look as though someone knocked it up on their PC at home like the
McCoy one did.

Regards
Guy

gclap...@cix.compulink.co.uk

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Oct 19, 2004, 3:59:41 AM10/19/04
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In article <cl114g$8pt$1...@athena.ukc.ac.uk>, dl...@kent.ac.uk (Dan Ludlow)
wrote:

> I'm a little disappointed as it's quite bland writing on a background

It must be tricky, though, trying to do something that's not going to look
dated very quickly indeed. The last thing they want is a show in 2005
that's going to look really turn-of-the-century by that time...

gclap...@cix.compulink.co.uk

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Oct 19, 2004, 7:07:02 PM10/19/04
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In article <cl44an$oci$2...@gallifrey.nk.ca>, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The
Doctor) wrote:

> It may not be her.

> --

That is probably the understatement of the century.

gclap...@cix.compulink.co.uk

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Oct 19, 2004, 7:07:02 PM10/19/04
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In article <BJ0dd.1867$EL5.1332@trndny09>, sean....@SPAMverizon.net
(Sean Huxter) wrote:

> It invokes more Sauron than Doctor Who.

Everyone's forgotten the Master's snake incarnation from the movie really,
really quickly, haven't they. Am I imagining things (entirely possible) or
wasn't there some sort of snakey-eyed theme in there, which predates the
whole movie-Sauron thing?

gclap...@cix.compulink.co.uk

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Oct 21, 2004, 4:09:50 AM10/21/04
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In article <ugxdd.7909$17.16...@news1.epix.net>, nos...@nospam.net (John
Long) wrote:

> bring back the diamond logo, I say. Or an updated version of it.
>
> JL
>
>

The daimond logo was wonderful on the old 4x3 TV shape but this time
arount they'll have to fit it to a widescreen format, surely? Which is
what they're trying to do...

The Doctor

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Oct 27, 2004, 8:33:15 PM10/27/04
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In article <cl7qse$7l$1...@thorium.cix.co.uk>,

Who has widescreen?? I am not taking out a bank loan!!


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On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 00:33:15 +0000 (UTC), doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca
(The Doctor) wrote:

>Who has widescreen??

I have a widescreen HDTV.

>I am not taking out a bank loan!!

Then get a better job.
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The Doctor

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Oct 28, 2004, 8:09:14 AM10/28/04
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In article <kqj0o092u62hh8hl9...@4ax.com>,

John Pertwee <JohnPer...@yahooo.com > wrote:
>On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 00:33:15 +0000 (UTC), doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca
>(The Doctor) wrote:
>
>>Who has widescreen??
>
>I have a widescreen HDTV.
>
>>I am not taking out a bank loan!!
>
>Then get a better job.

Hey peasant, saved up enough money for the upcoming economic depression?

Nod

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"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
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> Who has widescreen?? I am not taking out a bank loan!!

£300 for a 28". Even cheaper if you get one from Safeway, or any other
supermarket. Don't be a bloody miser.

Nod

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Oct 28, 2004, 6:52:42 PM10/28/04
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In article <Tydgd.167802$BI5....@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,

Nod <N...@DEATHBADGERblueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
>news:clpeob$bkh$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca...
>> Who has widescreen?? I am not taking out a bank loan!!
>
>£300 for a 28". Even cheaper if you get one from Safeway, or any other
>supermarket. Don't be a bloody miser.
>

C$720 for 28"??

Long live misers.

John Pertwee

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Oct 28, 2004, 11:04:00 PM10/28/04
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On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 12:09:14 +0000 (UTC), doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca
(The Doctor) wrote:

>In article <kqj0o092u62hh8hl9...@4ax.com>,
>John Pertwee <JohnPer...@yahooo.com > wrote:
>>On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 00:33:15 +0000 (UTC), doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca
>>(The Doctor) wrote:
>>
>>>Who has widescreen??
>>
>>I have a widescreen HDTV.
>>
>>>I am not taking out a bank loan!!
>>
>>Then get a better job.
>
>Hey peasant, saved up enough money for the upcoming economic depression?

Peasant?

I have more than enough saved up, with enough to spare for a kickin
big screen HDTV with progressive scan DVD and surround sound.

You on the other hand can stick to watching your 11 inch APEX TV while
eating off the floor.

Dunce.
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The Doctor

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Oct 28, 2004, 11:24:26 PM10/28/04
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In article <fjc3o0lk7kf02l5rk...@4ax.com>,

John Pertwee <JohnPer...@yahooo.com > wrote:
>On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 12:09:14 +0000 (UTC), doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca
>(The Doctor) wrote:
>
>>In article <kqj0o092u62hh8hl9...@4ax.com>,
>>John Pertwee <JohnPer...@yahooo.com > wrote:
>>>On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 00:33:15 +0000 (UTC), doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca
>>>(The Doctor) wrote:
>>>
>>>>Who has widescreen??
>>>
>>>I have a widescreen HDTV.
>>>
>>>>I am not taking out a bank loan!!
>>>
>>>Then get a better job.
>>
>>Hey peasant, saved up enough money for the upcoming economic depression?
>
>Peasant?
>
>I have more than enough saved up, with enough to spare for a kickin
>big screen HDTV with progressive scan DVD and surround sound.
>
>You on the other hand can stick to watching your 11 inch APEX TV while
>eating off the floor.
>

The US $ is sinking and US inflation is rising.

John Pertwee

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Oct 30, 2004, 12:33:30 AM10/30/04
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On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 03:24:26 +0000 (UTC), doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca
(The Doctor) wrote:

>In article <fjc3o0lk7kf02l5rk...@4ax.com>,
>John Pertwee <JohnPer...@yahooo.com > wrote:
>>On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 12:09:14 +0000 (UTC), doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca
>>(The Doctor) wrote:
>>
>>>In article <kqj0o092u62hh8hl9...@4ax.com>,
>>>John Pertwee <JohnPer...@yahooo.com > wrote:
>>>>On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 00:33:15 +0000 (UTC), doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca
>>>>(The Doctor) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Who has widescreen??
>>>>
>>>>I have a widescreen HDTV.
>>>>
>>>>>I am not taking out a bank loan!!
>>>>
>>>>Then get a better job.
>>>
>>>Hey peasant, saved up enough money for the upcoming economic depression?
>>
>>Peasant?
>>
>>I have more than enough saved up, with enough to spare for a kickin
>>big screen HDTV with progressive scan DVD and surround sound.
>>
>>You on the other hand can stick to watching your 11 inch APEX TV while
>>eating off the floor.
>>
>
>The US $ is sinking and US inflation is rising.

So what?

I am set. I will eat while you go hungry.


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Nov 1, 2004, 2:50:58 AM11/1/04
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On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 00:33:15 +0000 (UTC), doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca
(The Doctor) wrote:

>In article <cl7qse$7l$1...@thorium.cix.co.uk>,
> <gclap...@cix.compulink.co.uk> wrote:
>>In article <ugxdd.7909$17.16...@news1.epix.net>, nos...@nospam.net (John
>>Long) wrote:
>>
>>> bring back the diamond logo, I say. Or an updated version of it.
>>>
>>> JL
>>>
>>>
>>The daimond logo was wonderful on the old 4x3 TV shape but this time
>>arount they'll have to fit it to a widescreen format, surely? Which is
>>what they're trying to do...
>
>Who has widescreen?? I am not taking out a bank loan!!


In the UK it is pretty much impossible to buy a new TV that *isn't*
widescreen - I bought my 32" widescreen for only £250 last year


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Nov 1, 2004, 8:23:03 AM11/1/04
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In article <8jqbo0h47mao68n7j...@4ax.com>,

Luke Curtis <mfl...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
>
>In the UK it is pretty much impossible to buy a new TV that *isn't*
>widescreen - I bought my 32" widescreen for only £250 last year
>

You lucky sods!! That is C$625 . The cheapest widescreen
is $2000 over here :-(

Duncan Corps

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Nov 1, 2004, 11:16:13 AM11/1/04
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The Doctor wrote:
> In article <8jqbo0h47mao68n7j...@4ax.com>, Luke Curtis
> <mfl...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
>> In the UK it is pretty much impossible to buy a new TV that *isn't*
>> widescreen

Thank goodness, at last. The UK is so slow at moving to better systems. It's
taken a decade or so to move from 4:3 to 16:9 (and many new programmes are still
made in 14:9, a compromise ratio).

Mind you, that's bad but it could be worse. It's been 3 decades or so since
metrication started and some people still insist in working in archaic imperial
units (inches, feet, yards, miles, fluid ounces, pounds, stones and other
bizarreness)!

>> I bought my 32" widescreen for only £250 last year
>
> You lucky sods!! That is C$625 . The cheapest widescreen is $2000 over here
> :-(

You may be looking at rear projection and/ or HDTV sets. PAL is much better than
NTSC so many countries aren't as motivated to adopt HDTV at the same time as
wide-screen. Our wide-screen TVs are usually traditional CRT PAL sets because
nothing yet matches the picture quality of a CRT (with decent electronics
driving it).

Rear projection and plasma displays are becoming popular for larger sizes (over
100cm diagonal), while LCD is becoming popular for smaller sizes (under 50cm
diagonal). CRT rear projection is cheap and adequate, LCD rear projection is
good but expensive (I suspect only Sony make them) while DLP rear projection is
becoming a viable option (I have no opinion of them yet).
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"Duncan Corps" <duncan...@nospam.fwei.org.uk> wrote in message
news:e34i52-...@fwei.org.uk...

> Mind you, that's bad but it could be worse. It's been 3 decades or so
since
> metrication started and some people still insist in working in archaic
imperial
> units (inches, feet, yards, miles, fluid ounces, pounds, stones and other
> bizarreness)!

No doubt you want to ditch the pound too?

At least you know someone is a fatty if they weigh 23 stone. ;)

Nod


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Nov 1, 2004, 7:42:38 PM11/1/04
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"Woodzo" <woo...@REMOVETHISgmail.com> wrote:

>Has everyone seen the new logo?

>>http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/news/drwho/2004/01/18/14927.shtml

>What are your thoughts?

Big fans of "Farscape" these designers, are they?


.
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Alan G McWhan

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Nov 1, 2004, 8:15:51 PM11/1/04
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"Nod" <N...@DEATHBADGERblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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Hey! I'm just big boned. ;)

It's me glands...


The Doctor

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Nov 1, 2004, 8:36:27 PM11/1/04
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In article <12534-418...@storefull-3277.bay.webtv.net>,

The Intrinsically Flawed Mr. Hole <holef...@webtv.net> wrote:
>"Woodzo" <woo...@REMOVETHISgmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Has everyone seen the new logo?
>
>>>http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/news/drwho/2004/01/18/14927.shtml
>
>>What are your thoughts?
>
>Big fans of "Farscape" these designers, are they?
>

What about the whole sequence?

Duncan Corps

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Nov 1, 2004, 8:39:17 PM11/1/04
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Nod wrote:
> "Duncan Corps" <duncan...@nospam.fwei.org.uk> wrote in message
> news:e34i52-...@fwei.org.uk...
>> Mind you, that's bad but it could be worse. It's been 3 decades or so since
>> metrication started and some people still insist in working in archaic
>> imperial units (inches, feet, yards, miles, fluid ounces, pounds, stones
>> and other bizarreness)!
>
> No doubt you want to ditch the pound too?

As in currency?

Since it has already been changed from similarly archaic Pounds, Shillings and
Pence to decimal Pounds and Pence (note: uses the same base ten system which
underpins metric) I am quite happy to keep the Pound.

Of course, if we used the Euro, like the vast majority of the countries I visit
regularly, then it would be much more convenient for me personally (no need to
lose money while exchanging it). I'm sure we could adopt the Euro as a currency
without losing much, or any, of our economic independence.

> At least you know someone is a fatty if they weigh 23 stone. ;)

Are they? I have no idea. The stones I can see weigh various amounts, and 23 of
them doesn't seem to weigh much.

However, I know I'm a fatty at a few kilos less than 100 :-( .


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Solar Penguin

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Nov 2, 2004, 5:42:46 AM11/2/04
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--- Duncan Corps said:

> It's taken a decade or so to move from 4:3 to 16:9 (and many
> new programmes are still made in 14:9, a compromise ratio).

Of course, if telly manufacturers didn't make those ugly widescreen sets
in the first place, then everything could still be made in the proper
4:3 set and could be viewed properly on proper telly-shaped TV sets and
we wouldn't need to waste our money buying new ones for no good reason.

Ok, Ok, widescreen sets might be useful for obsessive movie buffs who
want to see modern cinemascope films on their TV sets. But it's just
ugly and pointless for the rest of us. Why should we all have to
upgrade our sets just for the sake of a handful of anal obsessives?
Telly-shaped sets were good enough when I was a kid. How come they're
suddenly not good enough any more?

Bill

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Nov 2, 2004, 2:40:21 PM11/2/04
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In article <12534-418...@storefull-3277.bay.webtv.net>,

holef...@webtv.net (The Intrinsically Flawed Mr. Hole) wrote:

I suppose a vertical TARDIS is sort of a problem with horizontal
widescreen HDTV.

Nod

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Nov 2, 2004, 4:59:21 PM11/2/04
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"Duncan Corps" <duncan...@nospam.fwei.org.uk> wrote in message
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> Of course, if we used the Euro, like the vast majority of the countries I
visit
> regularly, then it would be much more convenient for me personally (no
need to
> lose money while exchanging it). I'm sure we could adopt the Euro as a
currency
> without losing much, or any, of our economic independence.

Not forgetting saving jobs. Which is what Richard Dyson said before shutting
his factory and moving the work to the far east. A place that I'm sure
doesn't have the Euro.

But enough politics.

Nod


Phillip Thorne

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Nov 2, 2004, 7:55:17 PM11/2/04
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"Woodzo" <woo...@REMOVETHISgmail.com> asked five ng's:

>>Has everyone seen the new logo?
>>>http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/news/drwho/2004/01/18/14927.shtml
>>What are your thoughts?

On Mon, 1 Nov 2004, holef...@webtv.net (The Intrinsically Flawed
Mr. Hole) responded:


>Big fans of "Farscape" these designers, are they?

Animal Logic, Insect Design... It's cockroaches! Cockroaches are
dominating the field of SF TV logotype design! Cockroaches wearing
GLASSES, hence all the lens flares.

I rather like the color, although there's too much negative space
beyond the sun-flare-orange biconvex lens. And the lens pinches the
"D" and "O" at the ends. It could work across the top of paperback
books, in a smaller frame; but I assume it'll be animated in some way
for TV.

And on Tue, 02 Nov 2004, Bill <ws...@cornell.edu> wrote:
>I suppose a vertical TARDIS is sort of a problem with horizontal
>widescreen HDTV.

No more so than vertical human actors. If they wanted to have the
classic Police Box Scooting Through Swirly Time-Space Vortex effect,
we'd simply see... more of the vortex. To the sides. Where all the
other time-travelling home furnishings have previously been hiding.

(The other time-travellers had been tossing rubbish into the Vortex,
and then somebody dropped a lit cigarette. FWOOSH. Time! Itself! Is
now on! FIRE!)

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