http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/news/drwho/2004/01/18/14927.shtml
What are your thoughts?
What's really sad is that it took FIVE people to work on it!!!!
And how will it look on the DVd's?? Stick to the classic one that they
revamped for McGann.
Nod
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It sucks.
I am sure the show will be great, but DAMN!
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Overall 5/10 I think.
Excellent! At least they spelled it right and it has a nice redish/orangish
background. I've always liked that. That and blue. And pink. Oh yes -
gotta love the pink.
-Wraith-
Um. Disappointing? The lettering is some bog standard font and it's got an
annying background behind it that only serves to distract.
I like it.
nothing over the top, someting plain and simple.
Hrm... awful. But I doubt it's The One because it matches the
description in Production Notes (in Doctor Who Magazine number 346) of a
rejected logo;
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And it doesn't match the description quoted in
http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?selm=200410052123179315%25stuartburns%40blueyondercouk
, not that that matters much.
Oh, why does it need a new logo? Like having a new Doctor, I see it as
an unnecessary change.
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It's truly horrid. Thankfully they have a great cast and let's hope they
change it by mid to next season.
Hrrrrrm. It *does* look a bit better when viewed as wallpaper.
A bit.
You'll be happy to know that Outpost Gallifrey have changed their colour
scheme to match. The new on is terrible!
I kind of like it. :)
I have to laugh at some of the angry responses to it, but I do agree
with the response about the revamped Pertwee one used for McGann. I
thought it was quite good also.
Chris
LOVE IT!! Opening sequence is next.
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>"Woodzo" <woo...@REMOVETHISgmail.com> wrote in message
>news:1098115905.IPHy70xjg/NIq1hkwXTAOg@teranews...
>> Has everyone seen the new logo?
>>
>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/news/drwho/2004/01/18/14927.shtml
>>
>> What are your thoughts?
>>
>>
>
>
What aboutthe opening sequence?
Right on Outpost!!
Nice as it is, it is still part of an animated sequence - so it hard to
tell what the overall impact will be.
>In article <8c28n0ln3cfft3su7...@4ax.com>,
>John Pertwee <JohnPer...@yahooo.com > wrote:
>>On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:13:00 +0100, "Woodzo"
>><woo...@REMOVETHISgmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Has everyone seen the new logo?
>>>
>>>http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/news/drwho/2004/01/18/14927.shtml
>>>
>>>What are your thoughts?
>>>
>>
>>It sucks.
>>
>>I am sure the show will be great, but DAMN!
>
>What aboutthe opening sequence?
Remains to be seen...
> What are your thoughts?
Bleh.
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My thoughts exactly!
Well, on the bright side, it does look suitably retro. A sort of
old-fashioned futuristic style. Pretty much captures the who
old-fashioned yet futuristic feel of DW. Yeah, it could work as the DW
logo.
OTOH outside of a DW context, judged solely on its merits as a piece of
artwork, it's crap.
Simple text is never a bad idea, but what's with the firey eye?
It invokes more Sauron than Doctor Who.
I think they would have been wiser to do the text without background, in a
TARDIS blue.
Sean.
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I was hoping for something a little more sexy. But this will do.
Linda O'Neil
http://www.lindaoneil.com
As a logo by itself, it kinda sucks. But if you watch it as part of an opening
sequence it just may work fine.
-Fett
i really thought it would be good, it is so poor, so derivative. god
almighty could they not do better.
On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:13:00 +0100, "Woodzo"
<woo...@REMOVETHISgmail.com> wrote:
>Has everyone seen the new logo?
>
>http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/news/drwho/2004/01/18/14927.shtml
>
>What are your thoughts?
>
>
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But the whole point of designing a logo is to ensure it works as a
branding tool! It may look okay as part of the title sequence but this
thing will be slapped on every bit of official merchandise, including the
magazine, where it'll look insipid and amateurish. So far I haven't been
impressed with any of the design I've seen for this series.
Bob
I changed my settings so that I could use the old one as the new one's
really garish! I really wish that they would have waited a bit longer before
radically revamping the colour scheme to try and match the logo.
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> >Linda O'Neil
> >http://www.lindaoneil.com
> >
> >
>
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Don't do it! It's those boobs of hers! that's how she got me!
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>In article <Pp1dd.26455$_g6.3494@okepread03>,
>La Wraithette <Li...@lindaoneil.com> wrote:
>>
>>"Woodzo" <woo...@REMOVETHISgmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:1098115905.IPHy70xjg/NIq1hkwXTAOg@teranews...
>>> Has everyone seen the new logo?
>>>
>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/news/drwho/2004/01/18/14927.shtml
>>>
>>> What are your thoughts?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>I was hoping for something a little more sexy. But this will do.
>>
>>Linda O'Neil
>>http://www.lindaoneil.com
>>
>>
>
>Welcome newcomer. I will look at your website.
If that is the real Linda O'Neil I will eat my hat
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well, let's just say the first time I saw it, I didn't think it was an
eye.
Emmemm wrote:
> Um, it's the Eye of Sauron. How come no-one noticed and how much
> licence-payer's money was wasted???
>
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I think it looks better after inverting the colour - lovely shades of blue.
A nice Dalek extermination colour.
As it is, it's fine. Could be better - could have been much worse though!
David Embery
Just because lens flare is *common* doesn't mean it shouldn't be used; if
anything it's more appropriate here in the context of space travel, SF etc.
Maybe when we've seen it used for five years we'll all get nostalgic and
claim how we always loved it from the beginning...
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> I think they would have been wiser to do the text without background, in a
> TARDIS blue.
Why blue? I like the fiery colour scheme.
I wonder if she is a DW fan.
Hello. I am called Mr eBay. I am a DW fan. Please visit my site!
>Has everyone seen the new logo?
>
>http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/news/drwho/2004/01/18/14927.shtml
>
>What are your thoughts?
>
Instant reaction was Nice background but poor font.
Looking at the bigger version
http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/doctorwho/newtv/whospy/logo2005.html
it seems to look a lot better, though I still think the font could
have been lees bland, perhaps an old gothic style for "Doctor" and an
ultra modern style font for "Who" to show the 2 extremes of time
travel...
I think it will grow on me eventualy.
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I know what you are blimey well saying.
It's okay. It says 'Doctor Who' which is the important thing. It's
nothing to get upset about.
Oh, I absolutely agree. It has to work for multiple forms of media.
> So far I haven't been
>impressed with any of the design I've >seen for this series.
Well, what have we seen other than the new logo and the new TARDIS?
-Fett
Right. I've taken up the challenge and designed my own logo.
http://img91.exs.cx/img91/2629/logo28.jpg
If RTD wishes to use this, I'm sure we can come to some sort of
financial agreement. Otherwise, if any of you other grubbing bastards
decide to steal it and use it in your own tawdry projects, I'll be
sending 'the boys' round. Doctor Who Online, I've got my eye on you.
> "Woodzo" <woo...@REMOVETHISgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:<1098115905.IPHy70xjg/NIq1hkwXTAOg@teranews>...
>> Has everyone seen the new logo?
>>
>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/news/drwho/2004/01/18/14927.shtml
>>
>> What are your thoughts?
>
> Right. I've taken up the challenge and designed my own logo.
>
> http://img91.exs.cx/img91/2629/logo28.jpg
>
The figure on the left doesn't look _anything_ like Billie Piper.
Oh, how about by being the EYE OF SAURON?
Why blue? The TARDIS is blue. Good enough for me. The TARDIS is the single
most recognizable icon in modern popular culture.
Sean.
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Some people are not with the times.
Hmm. The Fiery Cartoon Vagina of Sauron might have created marketing
difficulties.
>In article <w6-dnR7s7I0...@giganews.com>,
>Giga Wraith <Fuck...@ed.edu> wrote:
>>
>>"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
>>news:cl2qpj$q09$5...@gallifrey.nk.ca...
>>
>>> >Linda O'Neil
>>> >http://www.lindaoneil.com
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>> Welcome newcomer. I will look at your website.
>>> --
>>>
>>
>>Don't do it! It's those boobs of hers! that's how she got me!
>>\
>
>It may not be her.
What was your first clue, Sherlock?
It looks better from a distance. As does Billie, so they have that in
common, at least.
She's very shy.
the second posting.
Logically (Captain) the Eye of Sauron is the Eye of Sauron; this is
something else. You might as well say that an orange on a stall in your
local market is the Eye of Sauron, they have as much in common. As for "Why
blue", why *not* orange?
JL
Smart move, methinks :P
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I like it too -- sometimes less is more. However, the intricate
background leads me to suspect that the opening sequence will be some
sort of vast orange starfield which then dilates into what we're
seeing as the logo. I have a feeling we're seeing it out of context.
Regardless, I give it a thumbs up!
I must be the only person in the world who didn't see the similarity.
In fact, the first thing *I* thought was "Someone's seen 'Sky
Captain'."
And yes, I was expecting blue as well. Breaking expectations is good.
Sadly, I agree with the second sentence.
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Many are calling it the LotR DW Logo.
I agree. I'm very impressed (and relieved.) Unlike the Doctor's
costume, which to me feels utterly at odds with the character of the
show, this feels perfectly right. A bit retro, a bit art deco. I like
it. It's also a bit of a break with tradition. Am I right in thinking
that this is the first time that the word "Doctor" has not appeared
above the word "WHO"?
the McCoy logo.
the neon Davison/Colin Baker logo
the Hartnell logo.
the Troughton logo.
It is NOT better than:
the diamond Pertwee/Baker logo
the Pertwee/McGann logo.
So it seems that it is more better than worse.
JL
In words of one syllable: YUCK!!!!!!!
Is this 'hate mail'?
I didn't mean it in a good way.
> Is this 'hate mail'?
Hell no. It's easily as good as the so-called official logo.
Exactly. I was amazed how people are beginning to revise their opinion of
the typographic crimes of the 80's just because those logos are established
and this one is new. Being a fan is to a large extent about nostalgia, but
it's no good to us if it clouds our vision of what's happening now, or about
to happen.
Hurrah!!
;o)
> Has everyone seen the new logo?
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/news/drwho/2004/01/18/14927.shtml
>
> What are your thoughts?
>
>
I like it. A slightly retro feel but it's not been done before and it
doesn't look as though someone knocked it up on their PC at home like the
McCoy one did.
Regards
Guy
> I'm a little disappointed as it's quite bland writing on a background
It must be tricky, though, trying to do something that's not going to look
dated very quickly indeed. The last thing they want is a show in 2005
that's going to look really turn-of-the-century by that time...
> It may not be her.
> --
That is probably the understatement of the century.
> It invokes more Sauron than Doctor Who.
Everyone's forgotten the Master's snake incarnation from the movie really,
really quickly, haven't they. Am I imagining things (entirely possible) or
wasn't there some sort of snakey-eyed theme in there, which predates the
whole movie-Sauron thing?
> bring back the diamond logo, I say. Or an updated version of it.
>
> JL
>
>
The daimond logo was wonderful on the old 4x3 TV shape but this time
arount they'll have to fit it to a widescreen format, surely? Which is
what they're trying to do...
Who has widescreen?? I am not taking out a bank loan!!
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>Who has widescreen??
I have a widescreen HDTV.
>I am not taking out a bank loan!!
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>In article <kqj0o092u62hh8hl9...@4ax.com>,
>John Pertwee <JohnPer...@yahooo.com > wrote:
>>On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 00:33:15 +0000 (UTC), doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca
>>(The Doctor) wrote:
>>
>>>Who has widescreen??
>>
>>I have a widescreen HDTV.
>>
>>>I am not taking out a bank loan!!
>>
>>Then get a better job.
>
>Hey peasant, saved up enough money for the upcoming economic depression?
Peasant?
I have more than enough saved up, with enough to spare for a kickin
big screen HDTV with progressive scan DVD and surround sound.
You on the other hand can stick to watching your 11 inch APEX TV while
eating off the floor.
Dunce.
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>In article <fjc3o0lk7kf02l5rk...@4ax.com>,
>John Pertwee <JohnPer...@yahooo.com > wrote:
>>On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 12:09:14 +0000 (UTC), doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca
>>(The Doctor) wrote:
>>
>>>In article <kqj0o092u62hh8hl9...@4ax.com>,
>>>John Pertwee <JohnPer...@yahooo.com > wrote:
>>>>On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 00:33:15 +0000 (UTC), doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca
>>>>(The Doctor) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Who has widescreen??
>>>>
>>>>I have a widescreen HDTV.
>>>>
>>>>>I am not taking out a bank loan!!
>>>>
>>>>Then get a better job.
>>>
>>>Hey peasant, saved up enough money for the upcoming economic depression?
>>
>>Peasant?
>>
>>I have more than enough saved up, with enough to spare for a kickin
>>big screen HDTV with progressive scan DVD and surround sound.
>>
>>You on the other hand can stick to watching your 11 inch APEX TV while
>>eating off the floor.
>>
>
>The US $ is sinking and US inflation is rising.
So what?
I am set. I will eat while you go hungry.
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>In article <cl7qse$7l$1...@thorium.cix.co.uk>,
> <gclap...@cix.compulink.co.uk> wrote:
>>In article <ugxdd.7909$17.16...@news1.epix.net>, nos...@nospam.net (John
>>Long) wrote:
>>
>>> bring back the diamond logo, I say. Or an updated version of it.
>>>
>>> JL
>>>
>>>
>>The daimond logo was wonderful on the old 4x3 TV shape but this time
>>arount they'll have to fit it to a widescreen format, surely? Which is
>>what they're trying to do...
>
>Who has widescreen?? I am not taking out a bank loan!!
In the UK it is pretty much impossible to buy a new TV that *isn't*
widescreen - I bought my 32" widescreen for only £250 last year
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You lucky sods!! That is C$625 . The cheapest widescreen
is $2000 over here :-(
Thank goodness, at last. The UK is so slow at moving to better systems. It's
taken a decade or so to move from 4:3 to 16:9 (and many new programmes are still
made in 14:9, a compromise ratio).
Mind you, that's bad but it could be worse. It's been 3 decades or so since
metrication started and some people still insist in working in archaic imperial
units (inches, feet, yards, miles, fluid ounces, pounds, stones and other
bizarreness)!
>> I bought my 32" widescreen for only £250 last year
>
> You lucky sods!! That is C$625 . The cheapest widescreen is $2000 over here
> :-(
You may be looking at rear projection and/ or HDTV sets. PAL is much better than
NTSC so many countries aren't as motivated to adopt HDTV at the same time as
wide-screen. Our wide-screen TVs are usually traditional CRT PAL sets because
nothing yet matches the picture quality of a CRT (with decent electronics
driving it).
Rear projection and plasma displays are becoming popular for larger sizes (over
100cm diagonal), while LCD is becoming popular for smaller sizes (under 50cm
diagonal). CRT rear projection is cheap and adequate, LCD rear projection is
good but expensive (I suspect only Sony make them) while DLP rear projection is
becoming a viable option (I have no opinion of them yet).
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No doubt you want to ditch the pound too?
At least you know someone is a fatty if they weigh 23 stone. ;)
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>Has everyone seen the new logo?
>>http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/news/drwho/2004/01/18/14927.shtml
>What are your thoughts?
Big fans of "Farscape" these designers, are they?
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What about the whole sequence?
As in currency?
Since it has already been changed from similarly archaic Pounds, Shillings and
Pence to decimal Pounds and Pence (note: uses the same base ten system which
underpins metric) I am quite happy to keep the Pound.
Of course, if we used the Euro, like the vast majority of the countries I visit
regularly, then it would be much more convenient for me personally (no need to
lose money while exchanging it). I'm sure we could adopt the Euro as a currency
without losing much, or any, of our economic independence.
> At least you know someone is a fatty if they weigh 23 stone. ;)
Are they? I have no idea. The stones I can see weigh various amounts, and 23 of
them doesn't seem to weigh much.
However, I know I'm a fatty at a few kilos less than 100 :-( .
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> It's taken a decade or so to move from 4:3 to 16:9 (and many
> new programmes are still made in 14:9, a compromise ratio).
Of course, if telly manufacturers didn't make those ugly widescreen sets
in the first place, then everything could still be made in the proper
4:3 set and could be viewed properly on proper telly-shaped TV sets and
we wouldn't need to waste our money buying new ones for no good reason.
Ok, Ok, widescreen sets might be useful for obsessive movie buffs who
want to see modern cinemascope films on their TV sets. But it's just
ugly and pointless for the rest of us. Why should we all have to
upgrade our sets just for the sake of a handful of anal obsessives?
Telly-shaped sets were good enough when I was a kid. How come they're
suddenly not good enough any more?
> >>http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/news/drwho/2004/01/18/14927.shtml
>
> >What are your thoughts?
I suppose a vertical TARDIS is sort of a problem with horizontal
widescreen HDTV.
Not forgetting saving jobs. Which is what Richard Dyson said before shutting
his factory and moving the work to the far east. A place that I'm sure
doesn't have the Euro.
But enough politics.
Nod
On Mon, 1 Nov 2004, holef...@webtv.net (The Intrinsically Flawed
Mr. Hole) responded:
>Big fans of "Farscape" these designers, are they?
Animal Logic, Insect Design... It's cockroaches! Cockroaches are
dominating the field of SF TV logotype design! Cockroaches wearing
GLASSES, hence all the lens flares.
I rather like the color, although there's too much negative space
beyond the sun-flare-orange biconvex lens. And the lens pinches the
"D" and "O" at the ends. It could work across the top of paperback
books, in a smaller frame; but I assume it'll be animated in some way
for TV.
And on Tue, 02 Nov 2004, Bill <ws...@cornell.edu> wrote:
>I suppose a vertical TARDIS is sort of a problem with horizontal
>widescreen HDTV.
No more so than vertical human actors. If they wanted to have the
classic Police Box Scooting Through Swirly Time-Space Vortex effect,
we'd simply see... more of the vortex. To the sides. Where all the
other time-travelling home furnishings have previously been hiding.
(The other time-travellers had been tossing rubbish into the Vortex,
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