Just saw first ep of new series (no spoilers)
Kimon
is called "Rose". I enjoyed it quite a bit and thought Eccleston was
impressive. Piper was so-so. The sfx were quite good too. I'm not really
a fan of DW so I can't compare it with other incarnations.
The episode also contained several in-jokes which I only understood
after I read the DW FAQ.
In case anybody is interested the episode is available online on a...
er... well-known t*rrent site for the genre (I'm sure you can work out
which one or google)
You can all thank me later.
K,
Emmemm
> In case anybody is interested the episode is available online on a...
> er... well-known t*rrent site for the genre (I'm sure you can work out
> which one or google)
>
> You can all thank me later.
Cheers, but I'll wait and see it on a decent sized digital widescreen
telly with proper stereo, instead of breaking the law, thanks.
--
Frank
"Nobody will ever win the battle of the sexes. There's too much
fraternizing with the enemy." - Henry Kissinger
Sio
I hope it doesnt spread too much to damage the first night TV ratings.
ah well.
Sio
"Nigel" <garlicbrea...@REMOVESPAMuk2.net> wrote in message
news:38tveaF...@individual.net...
> Kimon typed:
> How is it available already to download when it's not been aired yet ...
Out
> of curiosity, I've searched several BT sites and haven't found it, care to
> ellaborate a little more on where you found it so the claim can at least
be
> verified?
>
> --
> Nige
>
Nigel
> Its from a BBC DVD shipped to a Canadian TV station apparently.
>
> I hope it doesnt spread too much to damage the first night TV ratings.
>
> ah well.
I can imagine the BBC will be pretty pissed that they've managed to keep it
under wraps, and it's been let out the bag by a TV station the other side of
the world (if indeed this is a legitimate claim).
--
Nige
Ian Abrahams
downloading this episode apparently, and then seeking out a newsgroup
to post to. Hmm again...
Nigel
> Hmm, you're not a fan of Doctor Who but you went to the trouble of
> downloading this episode apparently, and then seeking out a newsgroup
> to post to. Hmm again...
Well I must admit .. I doubted his initial post, but I can confirm his
claim. After a while hunting for it, the episode *is* available and it *is*
apparently the genuine article (judging by posts made thanking them for the
original post). The temptation is to download it and watch it, but I'm going
to hold out until I can see it as it's meant to be seen!
--
Nige
Gordon Hudson
"Nigel" <garlicbrea...@REMOVESPAMuk2.net> wrote in message
It would take a day and a half to download and stop you using the intrernet
while it did it
as bit torrent uses your machine as a peer for other peopke to download
from.
You would need to be very keen.
I fancy watching it on my wide screen telly on the 26th to annoy my wife.
Ian Abrahams
And, I wish it was really!
Ian
Framester
>Its from a BBC DVD shipped to a Canadian TV station apparently.
>
>I hope it doesnt spread too much to damage the first night TV ratings.
Even if I could find it, I don't want to watch it this way.
Plus, I don't believe that the people downloading it will make any
kind of dent in the viewing figures.
Sio
I cant wait for spine tingling moment on telly when they say 'This is
BBC1...' on Easter Saturday.
That cannot be beaten.
I havent told anyone the URL or anything, but I've already had an email from
a friend who has d/l ed it and says it brilliant etc.. I told him I dont
want to know.
But I asked if he could play the new revamped theme tune to me..(down the
phone) so he did.. after about ten seconds I said 'You are playing the
wrong episode!', but he wasn't (fortunately!)- make of that what you will.
For me, I'll wait- I hope fan sites dont start posting spoilers or pics of
'Rose' or indicate there is a rip of the first episode out.
And if 'Auntie' is reading, please dont let this happen again- but I feel
this is a one off.
If it does happen again I'm sure there will be holy hell to pay.
Sio
Emmemm
"Framester" <chris...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:253k21duvkuv1nn47...@4ax.com...
Hear hear, very well put. I'd feel soiled and dirty if I'd watched it
that way.
Now if anyone has some raunchy Billie home movies, I'd gladly download
them. ;o)
Emmemm
news:111005280...@iris.uk.clara.net...
> And if 'Auntie' is reading, please dont let this happen again- but I
feel
> this is a one off.
> If it does happen again I'm sure there will be holy hell to pay.
There will be anyway. Prosecutions almost certainly (they were talking
about that jsut for 2 stills being released - this is a whole episode
stolen).
Ian Pryde
from a Star Trek and general sci-fi media torrent site,
Jolly good it was too, you could tell that it was produced by the Beeb
though, but it was helluvalot better than the awful TV movie (Shudder.....)
Great SFX, but without being Yank overdone, although the Autons were never
my favorite monsters of the week,
BTW, I had my doubts about Chris Eccleston before but consider me a convert
now......the closest Doc i could compare him to was a cross of Tom
Baker/Sylvester McCoy...Glint in the eye cheeky but able to change moodz in
a blink,
Really looking forward to the series now,
PS Billy is hot, as usual (but she's no Leela LOL)
PPS Chill out Download naysayers.....I'll be watching on premiere night and
from there on in like the rest of you as well as downloading, so
calm!!!!!!!!!
Framester
<fr...@askforit.onthe.group> wrote:
>
>"Framester" <chris...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:253k21duvkuv1nn47...@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 16:16:26 -0000, "Sio" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Its from a BBC DVD shipped to a Canadian TV station apparently.
>> >
>> >I hope it doesnt spread too much to damage the first night TV
>ratings.
>>
>> Even if I could find it, I don't want to watch it this way.
>>
>> Plus, I don't believe that the people downloading it will make any
>> kind of dent in the viewing figures.
>
>Hear hear, very well put. I'd feel soiled and dirty if I'd watched it
>that way.
>
>Now if anyone has some raunchy Billie home movies, I'd gladly download
>them. ;o)
Yeah, way to keep perspective... Billie movies, I'd have no
objection.
Emmemm
"Ian Pryde" <ianan...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:7rpWd.299544$K7.2...@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> Well, I've downloaded and have just finished watching the episode, I
got it
> from a Star Trek and general sci-fi media torrent site,
> PPS Chill out Download naysayers.....I'll be watching on premiere
night and
> from there on in like the rest of you as well as downloading, so
> calm!!!!!!!!!
Well thank you for going public. As with the music downloaders who had
to settle £50,000 damages to avoid court action, I am sure you are
readying your bank account because the BBC and the quite likely the
police will be in touch with you shortly.
Ian Pryde
old, a lifetime in comuter years you'll agree, I just went to Asda for my
shopping and when i came back it was done, Taa Daa!
"Gordon Hudson" <gor...@usenet2.hostroute.co.uk> wrote in message
news:422a0147$0$38038$5a6a...@news.aaisp.net.uk...
Luke Curtis
can't be that widespread yet, its on none of the usual site I
visit....
--
ButIstillneedtoknowwhat'sinthere!Thekeytoanysecurity
systemishowit'sdesigned!Thatdependsonwhyitwasdesigned!
Ihavetoknowwhatwhoeverdesigneditwastryingtoprotect!
(Blakes 7, City on the Edge of the World - Vila in typical panic mode)
Kimon
> Hmm, you're not a fan of Doctor Who but you went to the trouble of
> downloading this episode apparently, and then seeking out a newsgroup
> to post to. Hmm again...
>
Firstly, I've been lurking this group for a couple of weeks. Secondly, I
haven't watched enough of DW to classify myself as a fan, but I do
appreciate sci-fi, and since there has been some excitment around here
about the new series, I thought I'd try it out.
HTH.
Kimon
> Plus, I don't believe that the people downloading it will make any
> kind of dent in the viewing figures.
You are right. And I'll probably watch it again when it comes on TV. In
fact, if they sustain the quality of the first episode, I may become a
fan of the series.
Kimon
> On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 23:22:35 +1000, Kimon <notv...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Just finished watching the first episode of the new series. The episode
>>is called "Rose". I enjoyed it quite a bit and thought Eccleston was
>>impressive. Piper was so-so. The sfx were quite good too. I'm not really
>>a fan of DW so I can't compare it with other incarnations.
>>
>>The episode also contained several in-jokes which I only understood
>>after I read the DW FAQ.
>>
>>In case anybody is interested the episode is available online on a...
>>er... well-known t*rrent site for the genre (I'm sure you can work out
>>which one or google)
>>
>>You can all thank me later.
>>
>>
>
> can't be that widespread yet, its on none of the usual site I
> visit....
Read Ian Pryde's post in this thread.
Luke Curtis
I don't doubt it is up there, just not on the sites I visit, efnet
being the main one.
John Pertwee
wrote:
>I don't doubt it is up there, just not on the sites I visit, efnet
>being the main one.
It has been removed from some sites already.
--
The villainy you teach me I will execute; and it shall go hard but I will better the instruction.
Emmemm
"John Pertwee" <JohnPer...@yahooo.com > wrote in message
news:9ggk21tcufuj98489...@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 23:23:10 +0000, Luke Curtis <mfl...@dsl.pipex.com>
> wrote:
>
> >I don't doubt it is up there, just not on the sites I visit, efnet
> >being the main one.
>
> It has been removed from some sites already.
MixxMaster posted on OG: "The Episode ROSE is now online on a few
bittorrent sites. It IS real. The picture and sound quality are great,
so it's definately not some cam or vcr job....I may post a review in a
few."
Martin Hoscik
>
> MixxMaster posted on OG: "The Episode ROSE is now online on a few
> bittorrent sites. It IS real. The picture and sound quality are great,
> so it's definately not some cam or vcr job....I may post a review in a
> few."
Be interesting to see if the OG mods allow a review of something which
has clearly been obtained via unauthorised means.
-------------
Martin Hoscik
www.unitnews.co.uk
Kimon
> Well, I've downloaded and have just finished watching the episode, I got it
> from a Star Trek and general sci-fi media torrent site,
>
> Jolly good it was too, you could tell that it was produced by the Beeb
> though, but it was helluvalot better than the awful TV movie (Shudder.....)
>
> Great SFX, but without being Yank overdone, although the Autons were never
> my favorite monsters of the week,
Spoiler space
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Was Clive (the person who hosted the "Doctor Who?" internet site that
Rose responded to) meant to be somebody in particular?
Rob Mammone
a) I'm not downloading it and b)on my 56K connection, I'm not even going to
bother! and c)yes, it is very illegal to do so!
The source of the ep. MAY be from Canada, but who knows?
"Nigel" <garlicbrea...@REMOVESPAMuk2.net> wrote in message
news:38tveaF...@individual.net...
> Kimon typed:
>
>> Just finished watching the first episode of the new series. The episode
>> is called "Rose". I enjoyed it quite a bit and thought Eccleston was
>> impressive. Piper was so-so. The sfx were quite good too. I'm not really
>> a fan of DW so I can't compare it with other incarnations.
>>
>> The episode also contained several in-jokes which I only understood
>> after I read the DW FAQ.
>>
>> In case anybody is interested the episode is available online on a...
>> er... well-known t*rrent site for the genre (I'm sure you can work out
>> which one or google)
>>
>> You can all thank me later.
>>
>>
Lynn
fast that those of us in the US are going to see it anytime soon) and
as spoiler-hungry as I am, I don't think I'm so far gone as to
illegally download the first episode. I'd rather enjoy it as it's
meant to be: on my TV, with my bowl of popcorn, my glass of wine, the
phone turned off, and curled up under my favorite blanket. The best
way to watch, IMO.
Brett O'Callaghan
honestly thought they could keep it in wraps until about the 19th.
Now, as I'm in Australia, new DW is going to be a bittorrent thing
anyway, so do I just grab this one, rather than wait for the one
sourced from the UK transmissions? But then I'd have to wait upto
four weeks for the next episode. Hmmmm. Three more weeks.
Honestly, I'm a bit sad that it's leaked 3 weeks early.
Byeeeee.
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Brett O'Callaghan
>Emmemm wrote:
>> MixxMaster posted on OG: "The Episode ROSE is now online on a few
>> bittorrent sites. It IS real. The picture and sound quality are great,
>> so it's definately not some cam or vcr job....I may post a review in a
>> few."
>Be interesting to see if the OG mods allow a review of something which
>has clearly been obtained via unauthorised means.
Conveniently, the forums are down for a big "revamp". Timing. ;-)
Given the overriding strategy of maintaining good relations with the
BBC (or, sucking up as some might see it) (not that there's anything
wrong with that), I'd be surprised if the official OG policy is to
even acknowledge the leak.
Kimon
What does watching it on TV , eating popcorn and drinking wine have to
do with downloading it?
The Wraith
news:38tq3rF...@individual.net...
> Just finished watching the first episode of the new series. The episode
> is called "Rose". I enjoyed it quite a bit and thought Eccleston was
> impressive. Piper was so-so. The sfx were quite good too. I'm not really
> a fan of DW so I can't compare it with other incarnations.
>
> The episode also contained several in-jokes which I only understood
> after I read the DW FAQ.
>
> In case anybody is interested the episode is available online on a...
> er... well-known t*rrent site for the genre (I'm sure you can work out
> which one or google)
>
> You can all thank me later.
>
>
> K,
Hopefully ratings are not impacted enough to diminish possibilities for a
second (and continuing) series.
If the DVD rumors are true for October, I'll be buying up each one. Can't
think of a better way to support it, other than moving to UK, which I don't
really want to do. Hmmm... How to keep new Who?
Any ideas anyone?
--
Wraith,
Almighty Lord God President: BPLC
Oogums McGee
and what follows is a review. Some mild Spoilers, so be warned.
Well, I would be lying if I said I wasn't a bit dissapointed, but only a
bit. I was sort of expecting a show that could stand next to the likes of
Stargate and BSG, and frankly, this isn't it. Not to say that I didn't
enjoy parts of it, but overall... it felt a bit muddled, in places
amatuerish, and necessarily rushed.
***The Good***
Eccleston's Doctor is interesting. One minute he's acting like a
charming, affable person, the next he's calling human "stupid apes." He's
going to take some getting used to, but he did have a Doctorish quality to
him. I particularly like his fairly snarky attitude in dealing with Rose,
the Nestene, and the Auton in the restaurant. He's like a mix of Tom Baker,
McCoy and McGann. I think the accent works for him too.
The TARDIS interior is also cool. Large, a little gloomy, and a complete
mess of wires and mismatched technology. I hope future episodes show more
of it.
I liked most of the dialogue (what I could actually hear... more on that in
a bit). There was a decent chemistry between him and Rose.
The use of mystery in the Doctor is well done. Introducing him while
leaving most of his backstory undiscovered.
The new Sonic Screwdriver is very cool.
***The Bad***
The music is atrocious. I mean incredibly awful. Synthy, loud and
obnoxious, and it's just jarringingly incongrous to what's actually on
screen. This show needs a new composer... one who knows how to compliment a
scene and not detract from it. Even the charmingly antiquated scores of the
original Who would have been preferrable to this.
The sound mix just makes it worse. Huge swatched of dialogue are completely
drowned out by the music and environmental sounds. It makes it difficult to
follow at times simply because you can't hear what the actors are actually
saying.
Pacing. Rose's introduction is completely rushed. They just drop into her
life with little in the way of actually getting to know her before throwing
her into a very strange situation. I guess I would have preffered a more
languid pace. People often criticize the telemovie, but it was paced far
better, IMO, and we actually got to know Grace before the strangeness that
is the Doctor hit.
It's shot on processed video... and it looks it. It would look clearly
lower res than any contemporary American show, so I can see why Sci-Fi may
have passed on it.
***The Iffy***
The visual effects are allright, but a little amateur-hour for my tastes,
and in places a little intentionally cheesy. There are some things I really
liked... the TARDIS's dimensional trancendentalism is seamless. There are
several times that you can see the inside from the outside... though I don't
really care for the interior doors being the Police Box doors from the other
side. The dematerialization/rematerialization is exactly the same, as it
should be. The Autons look more or less exactly like they did in 1970.
I'm not yet one hundred percent sold on Rose yet... she's nice, and nice to
look at, but don't really know her yet. I'll give her time to grow.
The camera work is a little off, but it's serviceable.
The story is a little murky, and like I said, a bit rushed.
Overall, I enjoyed it, and being a Who-fan of old (I could never bring
myself to seriously use the word "Whovian") I will of course coninue
watching, but I can see where it might be a tough sell in comparison to the
other Sci-Fi series' on television. I need to see more before I can really
tell how much this holds up. The only thing I can really 100 percent put my
foot down on is that awful music. Get a new composer.
-IMF
Media Fiend
other criminals think that if they can simply do something - as opposed to
actually create, invent, etc, which requires talent and intelligence - they
should go ahead and do it. 100% of the losers/criminals who steal from the
creative people who own the copyright/trademark/licenses could not scrawl a
two line valentine message to their sweetheart (if they had one) let alone
make a motion picture, play, or paint or sculpt or even act (and we have
enough god-awful actors as it is). Then they have to bellow their
irrelevant, infantile accomplishment to every other law-abiding citizen like
children in need of attention. Look at me, I can download illegal materials
from someone other criminal/loser's website! Look mother! Look at me!
Weeeeee!
Pathetic little wankers. Like the reeking offal who posted shots from SW Ep.
III all over the net - as if we didn't already know the ending! Now,
snot-nosed brats, go change your own diapers, this place is starting to
smell ....
"Ian Pryde" <ianan...@blueyonder.co.uk> crawled up out of his parents
basement, tugged on his mother's pilfered panties, smeared in his own feces
across the keyboard and vomited in message
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Kimon
to be?
Shannon Patrick Sullivan
> Hopefully ratings are not impacted enough to diminish possibilities for a
> second (and continuing) series.
That's... highly unlikely. If Doctor Who is going to succeed, it has to
reach far beyond the fan base, to the point that if every Doctor Who
aficianado in the UK dropped dead tomorrow, the show would still get
essentially the same audience figures. And given that only a small subset
of *fans* are going to take the time to (a) track down the torrent and (b)
spend the time it takes to download a file that massive, the idea that
"Rose" being available online will hurt the ratings becomes exceedingly
unlikely.
Actually, I'd venture to suggest that this might not be a bad thing for
the series. In particular, in markets where Doctor Who is not quite the
household name it is in the UK (I'm thinking of here in Canada, and New
Zealand, in particular), good word of mouth stemming from this inadvertent
sneak preview might actually help to pique the interest of those who'd
otherwise give it a pass.
Shannon
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> It would take a day and a half to download and stop you using the intrernet
> while it did it
> as bit torrent uses your machine as a peer for other peopke to download
> from.
> You would need to be very keen.
>
downloaded an episode of "Lost" a couple of months back (the power went
out so I couldn't see it during its proper broadcast) and it took me about
6 hours. And while other Internet applications did slow down somewhat, it
hardly prevented me from using them altogether.
> I fancy watching it on my wide screen telly on the 26th to annoy my wife.
>
Well, that'll certainly be nicer, I'm sure. :-)
Brett O'Callaghan
>Long ago in an English winter, The Wraith said:
>> Hopefully ratings are not impacted enough to diminish possibilities for a
>> second (and continuing) series.
>That's... highly unlikely. If Doctor Who is going to succeed, it has to
>reach far beyond the fan base, to the point that if every Doctor Who
>aficianado in the UK dropped dead tomorrow, the show would still get
>essentially the same audience figures. And given that only a small subset
>of *fans* are going to take the time to (a) track down the torrent and (b)
>spend the time it takes to download a file that massive, the idea that
>"Rose" being available online will hurt the ratings becomes exceedingly
>unlikely.
>Actually, I'd venture to suggest that this might not be a bad thing for
>the series.
Indeed. Think new BSG. I contend that the buzz created by people
downloading it *helped* the US (and probably Australian) screenings.
If for example, *I* just downloaded and watched the episode in
question (not necessarily saying I did, I hasten to point out to any
BBC lawyers reading this), who is hurt? I'm going to watch it
whenever it's on telly here in Australia (not that it matters, as I'm
not a ratings household), and I am most *definitely* going to buy the
DVD set. In fact, I could be now going around telling people how
utterly ******FANTASTIC****** and nearly flawless it is, meaning more
people might watch it when it's on. The only way it could hurt in
this theoretical scenario if I decided to try and spoil it for other
who are waiting to see it. Not going to happen.
And frankly, everyone knew a leak was going to happen, it's the world
today.
Contains Multitudes
>to settle £50,000 damages to avoid court action, I am sure you are
>readying your bank account because the BBC and the quite likely the
>police will be in touch with you shortly.
They didn't go after downloaders, they went after uploaders.
Copyright has traditionally been concerned with the right to make
copies, eg the right to provide the content, rather than the right to
own or watch it. Note that I'm not making a moral point here, more of
a legal one. The law in this area is fuzzy, but I would be surprised
(and interested!) to learn of any prosecutions of pure downloaders.
Personally, if I knew that I could look forward to a broadcast on the
26th that I could enjoy, I'd have waited for that. But I live in the
USA, and there's still no distribution deal here. So I was basically
planning to get a usenet download on about the 26th anyway. One
turned up today, so it wasn't much of a stretch to download that.
(And it took me about 15 minutes, not a "day and a half".) However, I
recommend anyone in the same situation wait, as the video capture
wasn't as high quality as it could have been.
All I'll say about the content is: I laughed out loud with joy.
Several times.
-sca/mn
Shannon Patrick Sullivan
No, he's a new character.
The Wraith
"Brett O'Callaghan" <brettoc...@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
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In fact, I could be now going around telling people how
> utterly ******FANTASTIC****** and nearly flawless it is,
Oh boy.
Is it really that good?
Is Rose as hot as I think she'll be?
Are there any nude shots? ;D
I've read Eccles-Doc is shades of Tom and McGann... Any truth to that?
I can't wait really.
Maybe I *SHOULD* move to UK. Or at least to Canada.
I could do it, you know. Or even just close enough to pick up CBC. Hmm...
For a bloody TV show. I'm insane, but I'm really considering taking a "13
week vacation" after about the 5th April...
FuzzWolf
Andrew McCaffrey
> Are there any nude shots? ;D
Good grief. They don't shoot nudes there. Nudes are allowed to roam
free. Free and they run happily over the hills. Happy nudes they are
there.
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Bong Hit Eric
i just spent 20 bloody minutes looking for it
Brett O'Callaghan
>"Brett O'Callaghan" <brettoc...@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
> In fact, I could be now going around telling people how
>> utterly ******FANTASTIC****** and nearly flawless it is,
>Oh boy.
>Is it really that good?
If I had downloaded and watched it, in fairness to others I'd feel I'd
have to refrain from any further comments at least until it had aired
in the UK. But I'd have plenty to say then, as would we all. ;-)
Psssst - Yes.
Kimon
> agreed
> i just spent 20 bloody minutes looking for it
>
>
puby
> agreed
> i just spent 20 bloody minutes looking for it
20 minutes? I've spent the past 4 hours looking for it. Any help?
Thanks.
Bong Hit Eric
thanks
Matthew.c.2005
Matthew.c.2005
<fr...@askforit.onthe.group> wrote:
>Kimon wrote:
>> In case anybody is interested the episode is available online on a...
>> er... well-known t*rrent site for the genre (I'm sure you can work out
>> which one or google)
>>
>> You can all thank me later.
>
>Cheers, but I'll wait and see it on a decent sized digital widescreen
>telly with proper stereo, instead of breaking the law, thanks.
LOL
Woodzo
puby
Thanks.
Luke Curtis
wrote:
>On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 21:34:18 -0000, "Emmemm"
>>Well thank you for going public. As with the music downloaders who had
>>to settle £50,000 damages to avoid court action, I am sure you are
>>readying your bank account because the BBC and the quite likely the
>>police will be in touch with you shortly.
>
>They didn't go after downloaders, they went after uploaders.
>Copyright has traditionally been concerned with the right to make
>copies, eg the right to provide the content, rather than the right to
>own or watch it. Note that I'm not making a moral point here, more of
>a legal one. The law in this area is fuzzy, but I would be surprised
>(and interested!) to learn of any prosecutions of pure downloaders.
There was an item on the news in the UK that the music industry in the
UK has gone after people sharing music, 30 people were threatened and
had to pay up to £5000 to stop a prosecution. Most of then were using
Kazaa and were sharing upwards of 5000 songs from the list I saw on
the TV.
Of course this is just a very minor clampdown for show only, I was
looking at the stats of the site were I got the episode from and they
were a right eye opener, the top uploader uploaded 1.71 terabytes and
downloaded 79 gigabytes and they haven't bothered taking him down even
though that is a trek site and we know how strict Paramount are.....
>
>Personally, if I knew that I could look forward to a broadcast on the
>26th that I could enjoy, I'd have waited for that. But I live in the
>USA, and there's still no distribution deal here. So I was basically
>planning to get a usenet download on about the 26th anyway. One
>turned up today, so it wasn't much of a stretch to download that.
>(And it took me about 15 minutes, not a "day and a half".) However, I
>recommend anyone in the same situation wait, as the video capture
>wasn't as high quality as it could have been.
>
>All I'll say about the content is: I laughed out loud with joy.
>Several times.
>
>-sca/mn
--
ButIstillneedtoknowwhat'sinthere!Thekeytoanysecurity
systemishowit'sdesigned!Thatdependsonwhyitwasdesigned!
Ihavetoknowwhatwhoeverdesigneditwastryingtoprotect!
(Blakes 7, City on the Edge of the World - Vila in typical panic mode)
Ian Abrahams
Ian
On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 08:43:18 +1000, Kimon <notv...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Ian Abrahams wrote:
>> Hmm, you're not a fan of Doctor Who but you went to the trouble of
>> downloading this episode apparently, and then seeking out a newsgroup
>> to post to. Hmm again...
>>
>
>
>Firstly, I've been lurking this group for a couple of weeks. Secondly, I
>haven't watched enough of DW to classify myself as a fan, but I do
>appreciate sci-fi, and since there has been some excitment around here
>about the new series, I thought I'd try it out.
>
>HTH.
>
>
Martin Hoscik
> I'd be surprised if the official OG policy is to
> even acknowledge the leak.
>
I do hope that's the case. I'm not a big fan of filesharing and if I was
the (c) holder i'd hunt down whoever put the file out there in the first
place and slap a lawsuit on them ;-)
I can understand fans giving in to temptation and downloading it. I
won't be as a) I don't agree with it b) I want to watch it for the first
time on my big telly with my surround sound c) I wouldn't have a clue
how/where to get hold of a copy!
What is nice to see is that people who have seen it are being very
restrained in what they are saying. Well done to those chaps :-)
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www.unitnews.co.uk
Big_Al
trek torrents.
Big Al.
John Parkinson
> It would take a day and a half to download and stop you using the intrernet
> while it did it as bit torrent uses your machine as a peer for other
> peopke to download from.
> You would need to be very keen.
Or, it could take 3 hours while you use the computer to also play online
games and read email.
> I fancy watching it on my wide screen telly on the 26th to annoy my wife.
My wife's resigned herself by saying she'll watch the first episode but
the ones after that depend on how much she likes it.
--
John Parkinson
pdt...@gmail.com
University firewalls and the like... :(
If anyone wants to upload it to Yousendit and email me a link, that
would be reasonably appreciated... I can offer up a Gmail invite if
that means a damn these days..?
Please?
Pete
Emmemm
"Martin Hoscik" <mr...@clara.net> wrote in message
news:11100677...@echo.uk.clara.net...
> Emmemm wrote:
> >
> > MixxMaster posted on OG: "The Episode ROSE is now online on a few
> > bittorrent sites. It IS real. The picture and sound quality are
great,
> > so it's definately not some cam or vcr job....I may post a review in
a
> > few."
>
> Be interesting to see if the OG mods allow a review of something which
> has clearly been obtained via unauthorised means.
DVD copies are now doing the rounds.
The digital age strikes the BBC! Presumably no loss on transfer. It
was from a DVD sent to a Canadian station after all.
Heads will roll.
As a (robbed) licence fee payer I've complained to the BBC that they do
nothing to prosecute pirates - sincec end-users are now being heavily
fined for music downloads, hopefully the BBC will pursue this through
the police/courts.
--
Frank
"Nobody will ever win the battle of the sexes. There's too much
fraternizing with the enemy." - Henry Kissinger
Emmemm
"Lynn" <raylyn...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1110075537.5...@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> You know, as desperate as I'm getting about the new series (losing
hope
> fast that those of us in the US are going to see it anytime soon) and
> as spoiler-hungry as I am, I don't think I'm so far gone as to
> illegally download the first episode. I'd rather enjoy it as it's
> meant to be: on my TV, with my bowl of popcorn, my glass of wine, the
> phone turned off, and curled up under my favorite blanket. The best
> way to watch, IMO.
Anyone with an ounce of self-discipline can wait. It's only the saddest
of thieves who will steal it.
Emmemm
> Conveniently, the forums are down for a big "revamp". Timing. ;-)
> Given the overriding strategy of maintaining good relations with the
> BBC (or, sucking up as some might see it) (not that there's anything
> wrong with that), I'd be surprised if the official OG policy is to
> even acknowledge the leak.
They deleted four threads that mentioned it even obliquely.
Emmemm
> Oogums McGee wrote:
> > I just had a chance to see the first episode of the New Doctor Who
series,
> > and what follows is a review. Some mild Spoilers, so be warned.
> >
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> Who was the man who set-up the Dr Who website that Rose visited
supposed
> to be?
Inthe immortal words of Richard Bignell: "Who bloody cares?"
Emmemm
"Oogums McGee" <who...@vipers.net> wrote in message
news:lLuWd.43451$ya6.3198@trndny01...
> I just had a chance to see the first episode of the New Doctor Who
series,
An important question: Do you think it will appeal to the general public
in the UK, which is the only measure of success that would ensure the
series' future?
Kimon
> "Kimon" <notv...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:38vcilF...@individual.net...
>
>>Oogums McGee wrote:
>>
>>>I just had a chance to see the first episode of the New Doctor Who
>
> series,
>
>>>and what follows is a review. Some mild Spoilers, so be warned.
>>>
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>>Who was the man who set-up the Dr Who website that Rose visited
>
> supposed
>
>>to be?
>
>
> Inthe immortal words of Richard Bignell: "Who bloody cares?"
Er....because this is a plot point in the first episode.
Emmemm
> If for example, *I* just downloaded and watched the episode in
> question (not necessarily saying I did, I hasten to point out to any
> BBC lawyers reading this), who is hurt?
It does rather scupper our planned first night party where we were going
to record a commentary of "first impressions" untainted by prior
received knowledge from forums, reviews, etc :o(
Emmemm
> people might watch it when it's on.
Why that? What if you were going around saying how disappointing it
was? Would that make a different impact?
Kimon
> "Lynn" <raylyn...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1110075537.5...@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>
>>You know, as desperate as I'm getting about the new series (losing
>
> hope
>
>>fast that those of us in the US are going to see it anytime soon) and
>>as spoiler-hungry as I am, I don't think I'm so far gone as to
>>illegally download the first episode. I'd rather enjoy it as it's
>>meant to be: on my TV, with my bowl of popcorn, my glass of wine, the
>>phone turned off, and curled up under my favorite blanket. The best
>>way to watch, IMO.
>
>
> Anyone with an ounce of self-discipline can wait. It's only the saddest
> of thieves who will steal it.
>
Especially those people who live in countries where the series is
probably not going to be shown. They'll be waiting forever.
Emmemm
news:ffal21h8hqitfvndr...@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 21:34:18 -0000, "Emmemm"
> >Well thank you for going public. As with the music downloaders who
had
> >to settle £50,000 damages to avoid court action, I am sure you are
> >readying your bank account because the BBC and the quite likely the
> >police will be in touch with you shortly.
>
> They didn't go after downloaders, they went after uploaders.
No, BBC Radio 4 said it was downloaders. That's why it was headline news
(clue is in the word "news").
Emmemm
> 26th that I could enjoy, I'd have waited for that. But I live in the
> USA, and there's still no distribution deal here. So I was basically
> planning to get a usenet download on about the 26th anyway. One
> turned up today, so it wasn't much of a stretch to download that.
Usenet?????
Btw did you like the music? (Was it better than Tone-deaf Keff?)
Emmemm
> agreed
> i just spent 20 bloody minutes looking for it
And did you find it? If so you'd have posted it, I guess.
Emmemm
> Its simple really - go to google and do what the man said - search
> for star trek torrents.
Er, it's Dr Who we're talking about. Not ST.
Kimon
> Big_Al wrote:
>
>>Its simple really - go to google and do what the man said - search
>>for star trek torrents.
>
>
> Er, it's Dr Who we're talking about. Not ST.
I'm forwarding your post to the Mensa Society.
Emmemm
Emmemm
Can't you buy a DVD, you dull twat?
Emmemm
His identity and whether he's "based on" anyone is not a plot point. Are
all you criminals retarded as well as recidivist?
Kimon
> Kimon wrote:
>
>>Emmemm wrote:
>>
>>>"Kimon" <notv...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>news:38vcilF...@individual.net...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Oogums McGee wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I just had a chance to see the first episode of the New Doctor Who
>>>
>>>series,
>>>
>>>
>>>>>and what follows is a review. Some mild Spoilers, so be warned.
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Who was the man who set-up the Dr Who website that Rose visited
>>>
>>>supposed
>>>
>>>
>>>>to be?
>>>
>>>
>>>Inthe immortal words of Richard Bignell: "Who bloody cares?"
>>
>>Er....because this is a plot point in the first episode.
>
>
> His identity and whether he's "based on" anyone is not a plot point. Are
> all you criminals retarded as well as recidivist?
How would you know? Unless, of course, you've downloaded the episode...
Kimon
> Kimon wrote:
>
>>Emmemm wrote:
>>
>>>"Lynn" <raylyn...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>>news:1110075537.5...@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>You know, as desperate as I'm getting about the new series (losing
>>>
>>>hope
>>>
>>>
>>>>fast that those of us in the US are going to see it anytime soon)
>>>>and as spoiler-hungry as I am, I don't think I'm so far gone as to
>>>>illegally download the first episode. I'd rather enjoy it as it's
>>>>meant to be: on my TV, with my bowl of popcorn, my glass of wine,
>>>>the phone turned off, and curled up under my favorite blanket. The
>>>>best way to watch, IMO.
>>>
>>>
>>>Anyone with an ounce of self-discipline can wait. It's only the
>>>saddest of thieves who will steal it.
>>>
>>
>>Especially those people who live in countries where the series is
>>probably not going to be shown. They'll be waiting forever.
>
>
> Can't you buy a DVD, you dull twat?
My, my, such hostility.
The Doctor
Lynn <raylyn...@aol.com> wrote:
>You know, as desperate as I'm getting about the new series (losing hope
>fast that those of us in the US are going to see it anytime soon) and
>as spoiler-hungry as I am, I don't think I'm so far gone as to
>illegally download the first episode. I'd rather enjoy it as it's
>meant to be: on my TV, with my bowl of popcorn, my glass of wine, the
>phone turned off, and curled up under my favorite blanket. The best
>way to watch, IMO.
>
I will watch it as it come on the screen.
--
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This is doc...@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doc...@nl2k.ab.ca
God Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising!
Koenig
wrote:
>I just had a chance to see the first episode of the New Doctor Who series,
>and what follows is a review. Some mild Spoilers, so be warned.
>
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Haven't seen it yet, but hope to soon - but just a few comments.
>
>Well, I would be lying if I said I wasn't a bit dissapointed, but only a
>bit. I was sort of expecting a show that could stand next to the likes of
>Stargate and BSG, and frankly, this isn't it. Not to say that I didn't
>enjoy parts of it, but overall... it felt a bit muddled, in places
>amatuerish, and necessarily rushed.
Being an introductory episode I would expect it to be a little rushed.
The Auton story I would expect to be rushed, but the rest should be
fine?
>
>***The Good***
>
> Eccleston's Doctor is interesting. One minute he's acting like a
>charming, affable person, the next he's calling human "stupid apes." He's
>going to take some getting used to, but he did have a Doctorish quality to
>him. I particularly like his fairly snarky attitude in dealing with Rose,
>the Nestene, and the Auton in the restaurant. He's like a mix of Tom Baker,
>McCoy and McGann. I think the accent works for him too.
To me by your description of his attitude he sounds very McGann
(especially the "stupid apes" bit).
>
>The TARDIS interior is also cool. Large, a little gloomy, and a complete
>mess of wires and mismatched technology. I hope future episodes show more
>of it.
The leaked shot featuring Rose and a corner of the console seem to
hint at it being a bit organic - is that true?
>The sound mix just makes it worse. Huge swatched of dialogue are completely
>drowned out by the music and environmental sounds. It makes it difficult to
>follow at times simply because you can't hear what the actors are actually
>saying.
The sound mix may be down to the .avi format you have watched it in I
assume. In my experience with downloaded tv shows I find that
sometimes the sound mix to be truly awful - and I wouldn't put that at
the feet of the makers of the show - more the encoding of the .avi
>Pacing. Rose's introduction is completely rushed. They just drop into her
>life with little in the way of actually getting to know her before throwing
>her into a very strange situation.
Sounds like the typical companion introduction to me - normal girl
meets strange man from Gallifrey and suddenly gets thrust into weird
life. The only companions I can really think that ever had any real
backstory were Barbara, Ian and Sarah.
>
>It's shot on processed video... and it looks it. It would look clearly
>lower res than any contemporary American show, so I can see why Sci-Fi may
>have passed on it.
Again, another by-product of the encoding? I know they shot it "on
the cheap", but some of the bad look may come from the encoding.
>
>The story is a little murky
Murky? How so?
>
>Overall, I enjoyed it, and being a Who-fan of old (I could never bring
>myself to seriously use the word "Whovian") I will of course coninue
>watching, but I can see where it might be a tough sell in comparison to the
>other Sci-Fi series' on television.
If Battlestar Galactica can get renewed, replete with its total
departure from the original series and at times almost death-like
pacing, I don't think the good Doc will hae much trouble.
Having said that I enjoyed BG.
--
Trev
"I can't believe you pissed on my taco"
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The Doctor
Brett O'Callaghan <brettoc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Oooo, dilemma! Leaked quite a bit earlier than I had expected, I'd
>honestly thought they could keep it in wraps until about the 19th.
>Now, as I'm in Australia, new DW is going to be a bittorrent thing
>anyway, so do I just grab this one, rather than wait for the one
>sourced from the UK transmissions? But then I'd have to wait upto
>four weeks for the next episode. Hmmmm. Three more weeks.
>
>Honestly, I'm a bit sad that it's leaked 3 weeks early.
>
Was it leaked or did someone intercept and rebroadcast distributed
transmission??
Recall what happened with the Paul McGann movie.
The Doctor
The Doctor
Andrew McCaffrey <REMOVEfe...@qis.net> wrote:
>The Wraith <hamfisted...@unit.com> wrote:
>
>> Are there any nude shots? ;D
>
>Good grief. They don't shoot nudes there. Nudes are allowed to roam
>free. Free and they run happily over the hills. Happy nudes they are
>there.
The Wraith must have gotten into your guinness.
Kimon
> In article <a3rk21dv8q32bc7v9...@4ax.com>,
> Brett O'Callaghan <brettoc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Oooo, dilemma! Leaked quite a bit earlier than I had expected, I'd
>>honestly thought they could keep it in wraps until about the 19th.
>>Now, as I'm in Australia, new DW is going to be a bittorrent thing
>>anyway, so do I just grab this one, rather than wait for the one
>>sourced from the UK transmissions? But then I'd have to wait upto
>>four weeks for the next episode. Hmmmm. Three more weeks.
>>
>>Honestly, I'm a bit sad that it's leaked 3 weeks early.
>>
>
>
> Was it leaked or did someone intercept and rebroadcast distributed
> transmission??
It was Dennis Bergkamp the criminal thug who leaked it.
Kimon (aka RED DEVIL)
Emmemm
> The only companions I can really think that ever had any real
> backstory were Barbara, Ian and Sarah.
Vicki had two whole episodes of backstory, Jamie had four, Nyssa had a
lot (we see her family, similarly for Victoria), Adric had a lot (Varsh
and the Outlers and the Terradon society - similarly Leela and her
exile), Turlough gained his in his last story which hinged on it... I
could go on. (And do, regularly!).
Emmemm
I just don't like criminals - scum of the earth.
PLONK.
Emmemm
No, I read this newsgroup ages ago and the DWM remarks about Rose
investigating the Doctor. You're killfiled now, byeeeeeeeee
Kimon
> Kimon wrote:
>
>>Emmemm wrote:
>>
>>>Kimon wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Emmemm wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"Lynn" <raylyn...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:1110075537.5...@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>You know, as desperate as I'm getting about the new series (losing
>>>>>
>>>>>hope
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>fast that those of us in the US are going to see it anytime soon)
>>>>>>and as spoiler-hungry as I am, I don't think I'm so far gone as to
>>>>>>illegally download the first episode. I'd rather enjoy it as it's
>>>>>>meant to be: on my TV, with my bowl of popcorn, my glass of wine,
>>>>>>the phone turned off, and curled up under my favorite blanket.
>>>>>>The best way to watch, IMO.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Anyone with an ounce of self-discipline can wait. It's only the
>>>>>saddest of thieves who will steal it.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Especially those people who live in countries where the series is
>>>>probably not going to be shown. They'll be waiting forever.
>>>
>>>
>>>Can't you buy a DVD, you dull twat?
>>
>>My, my, such hostility.
>
>
> I just don't like criminals - scum of the earth.
>
> PLONK.
WAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
Koenig
<fr...@askforit.onthe.group> wrote:
>"Brett O'Callaghan" <brettoc...@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
>news:tn8l215cokua5nk1d...@4ax.com...
>> In fact, I could be now going around telling people how
>> utterly ******FANTASTIC****** and nearly flawless it is, meaning more
>> people might watch it when it's on.
>
>Why that? What if you were going around saying how disappointing it
>was? Would that make a different impact?
Of course it would. Are you saying somebody should lie?
Its a new age. The majority of downloaders of illegal content do buy
the original in due course anyway - its been shown that mp3
distribution actually helps fledling artists. I went to more concerts
last year and bought more cds by artists I "found" on p2p than any
other medium.
Koenig
<fr...@askforit.onthe.group> wrote:
>"Contains Multitudes" <s...@visi.com> wrote in message
>news:ffal21h8hqitfvndr...@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 21:34:18 -0000, "Emmemm"
>> >Well thank you for going public. As with the music downloaders who
>had
>> >to settle £50,000 damages to avoid court action, I am sure you are
>> >readying your bank account because the BBC and the quite likely the
>> >police will be in touch with you shortly.
>>
>> They didn't go after downloaders, they went after uploaders.
>
>No, BBC Radio 4 said it was downloaders.
Then BBC Radio 4 are wrong - downloading a torrent marker file is not
proof you downloaded the torrent it links to.
Uploading that file is proof.
So they went after uploaders (those that shared the content). And by
design, torrents upload while downloading.
Koenig
<fr...@askforit.onthe.group> wrote:
>>
>> Especially those people who live in countries where the series is
>> probably not going to be shown. They'll be waiting forever.
>
>Can't you buy a DVD, you dull twat?
Do you expect a true Doctor Who fan to wait until October? I for one
won't. But I will also be buying the DVD when it comes out.
Emmemm
> On Sun, 6 Mar 2005 13:11:43 -0000, "Emmemm"
> <fr...@askforit.onthe.group> wrote:
>
>> "Contains Multitudes" <s...@visi.com> wrote in message
>> news:ffal21h8hqitfvndr...@4ax.com...
>>> On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 21:34:18 -0000, "Emmemm"
>>>> Well thank you for going public. As with the music downloaders who
>>>> had to settle £50,000 damages to avoid court action, I am sure you
>>>> are readying your bank account because the BBC and the quite
>>>> likely the police will be in touch with you shortly.
>>>
>>> They didn't go after downloaders, they went after uploaders.
>>
>> No, BBC Radio 4 said it was downloaders.
>
> Then BBC Radio 4 are wrong - downloading a torrent marker file is not
> proof you downloaded the torrent it links to.
>
> Uploading that file is proof.
>
> So they went after uploaders (those that shared the content). And by
> design, torrents upload while downloading.
There are audit trails for downloaders.
Emmemm
> On Sun, 6 Mar 2005 13:10:52 -0000, "Emmemm"
> <fr...@askforit.onthe.group> wrote:
>
>> "Brett O'Callaghan" <brettoc...@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
>> news:tn8l215cokua5nk1d...@4ax.com...
>>> In fact, I could be now going around telling people how
>>> utterly ******FANTASTIC****** and nearly flawless it is, meaning
>>> more people might watch it when it's on.
>>
>> Why that? What if you were going around saying how disappointing it
>> was? Would that make a different impact?
>
> Of course it would. Are you saying somebody should lie?
He was saying there'd be no harm in downloading it and spreading the
word, which would help word-of-mouth like with the new Battlestar
Galactica.
Now you say there would be harm (and some reviews are already
disappointed).
I agree with you.
Sean Huxter
ever had any can continue to be the subject of debate)
Uh... buy a DVD you twat? How is that going to speed the show to the US?
You (Region 2) got "Pyramids of Mars" a half-year before I finally got a
copy in Region 1. Not to mention if the Beeb actually does create a DVD of
the new series, it's not going to be released for at least a year after it
airs (if they're smart at all) and then we have another six months or so to
wait for a R1 version...
... you are posting nonsense. And in an insulting way, I might add.
Sean.
Nigel
> The fans who've got the link are having a powerwank.
That conjours up such an unpleasant image lol ;-)
--
Nige
The Doctor
Emmemm <fr...@askforit.onthe.group> wrote:
>Koenig wrote:
>> On Sun, 6 Mar 2005 13:11:43 -0000, "Emmemm"
>> <fr...@askforit.onthe.group> wrote:
>>
>>> "Contains Multitudes" <s...@visi.com> wrote in message
>>> news:ffal21h8hqitfvndr...@4ax.com...
>>>> On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 21:34:18 -0000, "Emmemm"
>>>>> Well thank you for going public. As with the music downloaders who
>>>>> had to settle £50,000 damages to avoid court action, I am sure you
>>>>> are readying your bank account because the BBC and the quite
>>>>> likely the police will be in touch with you shortly.
>>>>
>>>> They didn't go after downloaders, they went after uploaders.
>>>
>>> No, BBC Radio 4 said it was downloaders.
>>
>> Then BBC Radio 4 are wrong - downloading a torrent marker file is not
>> proof you downloaded the torrent it links to.
>>
>> Uploading that file is proof.
>>
>> So they went after uploaders (those that shared the content). And by
>> design, torrents upload while downloading.
>
>There are audit trails for downloaders.
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Has any of this hit the newspapers?
teepee
> I just don't like criminals - scum of the earth.
Err downloading a tv episode isn't a criminal offence in the UK. At most it
may be a civil offence, but even that is debatable, as no-one has ever
challenged such a case in an English court. To be a criminal offence under
English law, you'd have to be uploading it, and iirc you'd have to be doing
it for profit.
I personally will wait for the quality version, but then I have a 32" TV and
cable and a bit (and it is only a bit) of self control. But unless it was
ripped by an incompetent, a 400 meg divx is going to be pretty good for most
people - certainly better than VHS.
tp
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John Pertwee
<fr...@askforit.onthe.group> wrote:
>> Especially those people who live in countries where the series is
>> probably not going to be shown. They'll be waiting forever.
>
>Can't you buy a DVD, you dull twat?
Did I miss a release date, Frank?
Just because someone downloads it, does not mean that they are not
going to buy it when available. I buy every single DVD release with
the name Doctor Who on it. I spend THOUSANDS of dollars a year on the
Doctor Who brand, and intend to continue buying the new series the day
it is released on DVD.
I have purchased the same stories in every format they release it in,
so what difference does downloading it make? Oh yeah, it would make me
happy. No one wants that to happen.
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The villainy you teach me I will execute; and it shall go hard but I will better the instruction.
John Pertwee
<sean....@SPAMverizon.net> wrote:
>You (Region 2) got "Pyramids of Mars" a half-year before I finally got a
>copy in Region 1. Not to mention if the Beeb actually does create a DVD of
>the new series, it's not going to be released for at least a year after it
>airs (if they're smart at all) and then we have another six months or so to
>wait for a R1 version...
We got "Lost in Time" at the same time, so I would think that a R1
release would come out the same time as it would in R2. I am hoping
for a season boxset by October 2005, but an American showing of the
series might slow that down.
John Pertwee
>Ian Pryde wrote:
>> Well, I've downloaded and have just finished watching the episode, I got it
>> from a Star Trek and general sci-fi media torrent site,
>>
>> Jolly good it was too, you could tell that it was produced by the Beeb
>> though, but it was helluvalot better than the awful TV movie (Shudder.....)
>>
>> Great SFX, but without being Yank overdone, although the Autons were never
>> my favorite monsters of the week,
>
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>Was Clive (the person who hosted the "Doctor Who?" internet site that
>Rose responded to) meant to be somebody in particular?
I was thinking Ian Levine myself.