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John Heiden

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May 4, 1994, 7:43:24 PM5/4/94
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I just found out the first cut of COLOR OF THE NIGHT was rated NC-17.
And yes, this is a Disney made film.

For those who are interested, it has Bruce Willis doing full frontal
nudity in it. I guess a fair number of sex scenes as well.

Oh yes, and I believe Scott Bakula has a small part in it. (Gee, haven't
seen him work with Disney since I-Man.)

I doubt Disney will let it go out rated NC-17, though. They have an
iron clad contract with the producers for a "commercial" film.

John
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chase ray ( ba vpaf)

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May 5, 1994, 10:02:52 PM5/5/94
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Hiya,
I'm new at this "computer, communicting thing". I do work at The Disney Store,
I have connections in WDW, I'm working to be an animator, and I looove chatting
about Disney. If you wanta converse my e-mail address is: rchase1@.umbc.edu

Looking forward to yacking with you soon.

Ray Chase

Timothy R. Hulsey

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May 6, 1994, 12:20:51 AM5/6/94
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Howdy . . .

Maybe Disney could hire Ralph Bakshi next. :)

Thanx,
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wed...@hwsys.com

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May 7, 1994, 11:28:37 PM5/7/94
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IA>I just found out the first cut of COLOR OF THE NIGHT was rated NC-17.
IA>And yes, this is a Disney made film.

IA>For those who are interested, it has Bruce Willis doing full frontal
IA>nudity in it. I guess a fair number of sex scenes as well.

IA>Oh yes, and I believe Scott Bakula has a small part in it. (Gee, haven't
IA>seen him work with Disney since I-Man.)

IA>I doubt Disney will let it go out rated NC-17, though. They have an
IA>iron clad contract with the producers for a "commercial" film.

IA>John
IA>--
IA>John Heiden
IA>al...@cleveland.freenet.edu


Is it a Hollywood Pictures film?
If so, that is exactly what Disney created the label for- for films
that are violent or sexual in content as Disney and Touchstone are both
known to be "family" labels. However, I would see nothing wrong if it
is a Hollywood or Caravan film...

Rick

Me

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May 10, 1994, 2:06:14 AM5/10/94
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wed...@hwsys.com wrote:
: Is it a Hollywood Pictures film?

: If so, that is exactly what Disney created the label for- for films
: that are violent or sexual in content as Disney and Touchstone are both
: known to be "family" labels. However, I would see nothing wrong if it
: is a Hollywood or Caravan film...

: Rick

Then why is "Pretty Woman", an R-rated flick, released under Touchstone? That
sure isn't a family movie!

wed...@hwsys.com

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May 15, 1994, 10:14:29 PM5/15/94
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IL>wed...@hwsys.com wrote:
IL>: Is it a Hollywood Pictures film?
IL>: If so, that is exactly what Disney created the label for- for films
IL>: that are violent or sexual in content as Disney and Touchstone are both
IL>: known to be "family" labels. However, I would see nothing wrong if it
IL>: is a Hollywood or Caravan film...

IL>: Rick

IL>Then why is "Pretty Woman", an R-rated flick, released under Touchstone? Th
IL>sure isn't a family movie!

Well, while I agree that Pretty Woman was not a family film, and
the Cinderella comment made in the film was NOT well-received by those
in the audience when I saw it screened at the Disney Studios years ago,
Touchstone is more mainstream- it can get away with that type of movie
or something like Roger Rabbit, whereas Hollywood Pictures was made for
things such as Arachnaphobia, etc. which are more violent in nature or
graphic.

Rick

Rec.Arts Magazine

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May 16, 1994, 2:28:18 PM5/16/94
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Disney recently had what can only be described as an 'encounter' with an
"NC-17"-rated film (remember that the trademarked expression "NC-17"
replaced 'X' in the MPAA system some years ago).

Miramax Films won the bid to release the filmed-comedy-performance "You So
Crazy" which ultimately received an NC-17 rating from MPAA. The typical
mode of action under these circumstances (and especially when the material
likely cannot be cut down to an MPAA "R" rating) is to release it unrated.

Subsequent to this deal, Disney bought Miramax, making Miramax a member by
inheritance of MPAA. MPAA regulations prohibit members from releasing
unrated films.

Many newspapers, magazines, and radio-networks will not advertise or report
about a film which is MPAA-rated "NC-17", but will if the film is released
unrated (ostensibly and in part for reasons of free-speech). This and
other undiscussed reasons caused Miramax-Disney (after the purchase,
technically Buena Vista PDC) to dump the film.

Ultimately, "You So Crazy" was released unrated by a smaller non-member
distrib.

This story directly and very early in the life of the Miramax-Disney deal
illustrated the controversy surrounding the ratings system and censorship,
an issue which extends further to television and music, both of which
Disney is a signifiant player. It casts doubt as to whether Miramax can
continue as an art film boutique under the ownership of Disney, regardless
of when and how much control Disney's executive suite exerts on the Miramax
division.

More importantly, will large-studio dominance of the art houses effectively
eliminate controversial material such as "You So Crazy", functionally
placing the entire business under a 1950's-like censorship system?

The issue of censorship is slightly different in the recorded-music world,
but some of they dynamics are the same: will the megalomedia monstrosities
like Disney, or the nexus of a Congressionally-mandated media ratings
systems functionally inhibit free speech? Will the free-speech rights of
controversial new film, television, and musical forms and artists in the
forms be repressed in the name of media conservatism?

One can wonder whether rap and hip-hop, arguably the most important
important new musical form of the 1990s, or the sometimes controversial
programming of the Fox Television Network, would have ever seen the light
of day, much less gained the widespread popularity and success they have
garnered, if they had been subjected to direct or indirect censorship.

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