What does the name "Ariel" mean?
Robert Chann
Thanks.
Nyx Nshade
It means "Lioness of God". Hebrew.
My source is a few baby name books.
Nyx
Stephanie da Silva
>Does the name "Ariel" have a meaning?
It's Hebrew.
The masculine form "Ariel" means "Lion of God."
The feminine form "Arielle" means "Lioness of God."
LUBAH
well, the name ariel actually isn't mean,..... what ?... oh mean, mean...
well....
nevermind.........;-)
as we have already been pointed out, ariel originally comes from hebrew...
lioness of god.... and you can find that in any baby book...
(trust me, i checked...;-)
it also comes from shakespeare, in the tempest.... have you ever heard
about ariel's pine grove?..... well, ariel was an air sprirt, elemental,
or some such creature..... don't remember which actually.....but they all
mean the same thing anyways..........;-)
if you have ever read the original story, at the end, instead of killing
the prince, she turns into a spirit of the air.... hence ariel.......
and if you want to go back further than the great bard, an ancient
scandnavian or norse mythology, ariel was an ocean elemental...... I don't
have much more than that on it tho.... sorry......
SQUID
(who *knows* his mermaids.......;-)
Tim & Christine Morgan
>
>Does the name "Ariel" have a meaning?
>
From "The Dictionary of First Names", the entry for Ariel states
that it is from the Hebrew and means "lioness of God." More appropriate for
LK, seems like ...
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: In article <D6xII...@isgtec.com>, rch...@isgtec.com says...
: >Does the name "Ariel" have a meaning?
: LK, seems like ...
More likely, WDP just lifted the name from Shakespeare's THE TEMPEST, rather
than choosing it to mean anything.
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Here in Germany, there's a washing powder called "Ariel" (I bet this
was one reason why they changed her german name to the phonetically-equal
"Arielle"). And of course there's also a moon of Uranus (Neptune?) called
Ariel.
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f...@zeus.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de says...
> And of course there's also a moon of Uranus (Neptune?) called
>Ariel.
Uranus. The many moons of that planet include Oberon and Titania,
all characters from Shakespeare.
Ariel was in The Tempest, the sprite that was sort of the
anti-Caliban.
Tod the Fox
Stephanie da Silva <ari...@bonkers.taronga.com> wrote:
>It's Hebrew.
>
>The masculine form "Ariel" means "Lion of God."
>
>The feminine form "Arielle" means "Lioness of God."
Yeah, so why is her name spelled the masculine way,
and why is Sebatian the only one who pronounces it in the feminine?
Amy, who has a Jewish aquaintence named Ariel, and her first instinct
upon meeting him was, "oh, you mean like The Little Mermaid?"
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Stephanie da Silva
Tod the Fox <tr...@bigwpi.WPI.EDU> wrote:
>In article <D70LH...@bonkers.taronga.com>,
>Stephanie da Silva <ari...@bonkers.taronga.com> wrote:
>
>>It's Hebrew.
>>
>>The masculine form "Ariel" means "Lion of God."
>>
>>The feminine form "Arielle" means "Lioness of God."
>
>Yeah, so why is her name spelled the masculine way,
Why is Leslie both a boy's name and a girl's name? (If you can figure
it out, you've answered your question).
>and why is Sebatian the only one who pronounces it in the feminine?
Who says one pronunciation is feminine and other other is masculine?
Sebastian pronounces it with an accent, doesn't make it wrong, just
different.
Nyx Nshade
the only one who pronounces it in the feminine?>
They're pronounced the same way, really. Who knows why it's spelled the
masculine way? Many females nowadays seem to be named in the masculine
form...
<Amy, who has a Jewish aquaintence named Ariel, and her first instinct
upon meeting him was, "oh, you mean like The Little Mermaid?">
Argh! Heh. I'm sure the poor guy gets it often anyway...
Nyx
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><Does the name "Ariel" have a meaning?>
>
>
>My source is a few baby name books.
>
>Nyx
In Britain (I don't know about America) it's a washing powder
brand!
Emily Salmon
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David
>
>In article <3mlhb3$m...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, nyxn...@aol.com
>says...
>>
>><Does the name "Ariel" have a meaning?>
>>
>>It means "Lioness of God". Hebrew.
>>
>>My source is a few baby name books.
>>
>>Nyx
I was reading Paradise Lost by John Milton, and this is what the footnote
said for Ariel
"lion of God" or "light of God" ... it is translated doubtfully as
"vailant one" (Milton 148).
It also goes on to talk about some pagan city that worshipped the idol
Ariel.
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>upon meeting him was, "oh, you mean like The Little Mermaid?"
>
It's also not uncommon as a Filipino male name. I have a co-worker
named Ariel. There was a little boy who wrote a letter to the Marvel
TLM comic book also named Ariel, who's proud to share his name with
his favorite heroine. And those who read the credits of Disney
animated films will note the name Ariel (Velasco) Shaw in BatB, Al,
and TLK. I don't recall seeing this particular Ariel in the credits
of TLM though :)
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Victoria Gilliam
: In article <3mrq17$r...@bigboote.wpi.edu>,
: Tod the Fox <tr...@bigwpi.WPI.EDU> wrote:
: >In article <D70LH...@bonkers.taronga.com>,
: >Stephanie da Silva <ari...@bonkers.taronga.com> wrote:
: >>
: >>The feminine form "Arielle" means "Lioness of God."
: >Yeah, so why is her name spelled the masculine way,
: Why is Leslie both a boy's name and a girl's name? (If you can figure
: it out, you've answered your question).
Also what about Ashley? Both boy's & girl's name...(And my husband's,
what fun to get a phone call asking for Mrs. Ashley Gilliam, saying
speaking & have them start to talk about a credit card I don't have (but
my husband does) and say 'You want to talk to my husband, then.')
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Stephanie da Silva
Victoria Gilliam <z009...@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us> wrote:
>Stephanie da Silva (ari...@bonkers.taronga.com) wrote:
>: Why is Leslie both a boy's name and a girl's name? (If you can figure
>: it out, you've answered your question).
>
>Also what about Ashley? Both boy's & girl's name...
Not exactly true.
Ashley is a man's name that has become a female name through common
usage. People think it sounds like a girl's name, so they name their
daughters that. I've seen the same happen with names like Aubrey and
Clovis (both are masculine names). And vice versa, I've seen boys named
with girl's names because the parents who thought the name sounded cool
yet didn't research it. Worst case of this was some woman I ran into
with a baby boy she proudly told me she had named Caitlin. I didn't have
the heart to tell her she just named her son "Catherine." Poor kid's
gonna have to suffer through a lot of kidding while he grows up (that
was quite a while ago, he's probably 7 or 8 by now).
I don't know, my Australian brother-in-law just named his new son
"Vivian." According to my husband, this is a rather acceptable man's
name in Australia, on the same order of the name "Marion."
Jan Penovich
(Stephanie da Silva) writes:
> In article <3mrq17$r...@bigboote.wpi.edu>,
> Tod the Fox <tr...@bigwpi.WPI.EDU> wrote:
> >In article <D70LH...@bonkers.taronga.com>,
> >Stephanie da Silva <ari...@bonkers.taronga.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>The masculine form "Ariel" means "Lion of God."
> >>
> >>The feminine form "Arielle" means "Lioness of God."
> >
> >Yeah, so why is her name spelled the masculine way,
>
> it out, you've answered your question).
>
>
> Sebastian pronounces it with an accent, doesn't make it wrong, just
> different.
Actually, Sebastian's pronunciation was definitely NOT
incorrect (and there is no different masculine/feminine
pronunciation).
I know several people named Ariel/Arielle (including my
daughter) who pronounce Ariel just as Sebastian does. They
are boys and girls.
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Tod the Fox
Stephanie da Silva <ari...@bonkers.taronga.com> wrote:
>Why is Leslie both a boy's name and a girl's name? (If you can figure
>it out, you've answered your question).
Uh.. no... Leslie is Leslie, male or female. Ariel is male, Arielle
is female (every baby name book I have says so)
>>and why is Sebatian the only one who pronounces it in the feminine?
>
>Who says one pronunciation is feminine and other other is masculine?
>Sebastian pronounces it with an accent, doesn't make it wrong, just
>different.
no. It's pheonetically wrong:
Ariel = long 'A'
Arielle = ah-ri-el
So, the mermaid is Ariel, everyone calls her Ariel, and Sebastian
calls her Arielle, which is probably what it should have been in the
first place.
Like I said, I have a friend named Ariel and he backed me up on this -
his cousin's name is Arielle...
Amy, glad her name is feminine only...
Virgilio 'Dean' B. Velasco Jr.
<erud...@Pica.Army.Mil> wrote:
>
>It's also not uncommon as a Filipino male name. I have a co-worker
>named Ariel. There was a little boy who wrote a letter to the Marvel
>TLM comic book also named Ariel, who's proud to share his name with
>his favorite heroine. And those who read the credits of Disney
>animated films will note the name Ariel (Velasco) Shaw in BatB, Al,
>and TLK. I don't recall seeing this particular Ariel in the credits
>of TLM though :)
The Filipino male version of this name, BTW, is pronounced
"Aryel." Short "a", accent on the "yel."
Speaking of Filipinos, Ariels and Velascos, I've long since
wanted to name my firstborn daughter (if I ever have any)
"Ariel," after the greatest Disney heroine ever created. I
won't though, since the people back home would be bound to
mispronounce her name. Besides, people who see her name on
paper would invariably assume that she's female.
At least Peter A David got to name one of his daughters after
our red-hot merheroine. I envy him.
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Stephanie da Silva
>Stephanie da Silva <ari...@bonkers.taronga.com> wrote:
>
>>Why is Leslie both a boy's name and a girl's name? (If you can figure
>>it out, you've answered your question).
>
>Uh.. no... Leslie is Leslie, male or female. Ariel is male, Arielle
>is female (every baby name book I have says so)
You should get a new baby name book. Mine says "Ariel" is one of those
names like "Leslie" -- it can be both a boy's or a girl's name. Arielle,
Ariela and Ariella are all diminuative/variant forms of "Ariel."
>So, the mermaid is Ariel, everyone calls her Ariel, and Sebastian
>calls her Arielle, which is probably what it should have been in the
>first place.
No, Sebastian pronounces "Ariel" with Jamaican accent. There is no
masculine or feminine pronunciation.
Another example of pronunciation differences can be seen in the Star
Trek:TNG episode "Haven." In this episode, there is a character named
Ariana. All the American actors pronounce it "air-ee-AN-a." Troi and
Picard, the two British actors on the crew, both pronounce it "are-ee-AWN-a."
Tho it's been a while since I've seen the episode, and I want to say
even Troi and Picard had slight pronunciation differences. The variation
doesn't have anything to do with spelling, it has to do with accents.
>Like I said, I have a friend named Ariel and he backed me up on this -
>his cousin's name is Arielle...
Sounds like common usage thing.
Like I said before, there is no right and wrong wrt pronunciations, just
regional/cultural differences.
Jens A. Hage
: <Does the name "Ariel" have a meaning?>
: It means "Lioness of God". Hebrew.
: My source is a few baby name books.
: Nyx
To be honest, I thought they were ripping Shakespeare's "The Tempest." Made
sense at the time... I wrote a paper comparing The Little Mermaid's Ariel to
"The Tempests" Ariel. Kinda fun...
Jens "NOT an English major, but I play one on T.V." Hage
Tim Pickett
>>The masculine form "Ariel" means "Lion of God."
>>The feminine form "Arielle" means "Lioness of God."
The name has other roots too; witness Shakespeare's _The Tempest_. Just
where Disney was looking when these names were chosen we won't know.
It's possible Shakespeare was on their mind, given the decidedly
non-Hebrew pronunciation (Sebastian's accent aside).
Of course, with Disney's influence, the five-letter version has been
made a feminine name in Western culture for all time.
Now, where did I put that DEPOL form . . . .?
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In article <3n39ac$3...@mckinley.cit.macalstr.edu>, Jens A. Hage (JH...@mac.cc.macalstr.edu) writes:
>Nyx Nshade (nyxn...@aol.com) wrote:
>: <Does the name "Ariel" have a meaning?>
>
>: It means "Lioness of God". Hebrew.
>
>: My source is a few baby name books.
>
>: Nyx
>
>To be honest, I thought they were ripping Shakespeare's "The Tempest." Made
>sense at the time... I wrote a paper comparing The Little Mermaid's Ariel to
>"The Tempests" Ariel. Kinda fun...
I wouldn't exactly call it a rip as "ariel" has several connotations
associated with "air" (the ariels on your radio or television or an ariel
photograph), probably due to Shakespeare's influence. Since Anderson's
original story _The Little Mermaid_ ended with the mermaid gaining a soul
and becoming an angel (? it's been a while since I've read it), I thought
that by naming their mermaid Ariel, the writer's paid a sort of homage to
Anderson's work. So, in a sense, her name fits.
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Nyx Nshade
a feminine name in Western culture for all time.>
Eh, I had the five letter version over a decade before the mermaid did...
Nyx Nshade
>Made sense at the time... I wrote a paper comparing The Little Mermaid's
>Ariel to "The Tempests" Ariel. Kinda fun...
Actually, they probably were. But the question was what the name meant,
not where it came from...
Anyway, the name *means* "Lioness of God." Disney very likely got it from
Shakespeare, however, as in the original story, the mermaid turns into an
air spirit. Thus the name. ;>
Nyx
Stephanie da Silva
Nyx Nshade <nyxn...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>Eh, I had the five letter version over a decade before the mermaid did...
I know, my handle predates TLM by at least 6 years and i get so tired of
people telling me I relate to a mermaid....
Stephanie da Silva
Nyx Nshade <nyxn...@aol.com> wrote:
>Disney very likely got it from
>Shakespeare, however, as in the original story, the mermaid turns into an
>air spirit. Thus the name. ;>
Not necessarily.
Before TLM, people would tell me I got my handle from The Tempest. Now
they tell me I got it from TLM.
<I didn't get it from either>
RHIANNON DAVIES
>Before TLM, people would tell me I got my handle from The Tempest. Now
>they tell me I got it from TLM.
>
><I didn't get it from either>
I know how you feel. People keep asking me if I got my handle from that
Fleetwood Mac song "Rhiannon." I've never HEARD it. (Argh.) All right, all
right, so I *did* cop it from the Mabinogion...but that predates Fleetwood Mac
by, umm...at least eight hundred years.
Robert Hubby
: photograph), probably due to Shakespeare's influence. Since Anderson's
: original story _The Little Mermaid_ ended with the mermaid gaining a soul
: and becoming an angel (? it's been a while since I've read it), I thought
: that by naming their mermaid Ariel, the writer's paid a sort of homage to
: Anderson's work. So, in a sense, her name fits.
Actually, in the original story, the prince never fell in love with her and
she died, turning into sea-foam. You may be thinking of the book The Water
Babies by Kingsley...There was an almost-decent animated film based on that
book by the same name, but I've never seen a video version.
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>Nyx Nshade <nyxn...@aol.com> wrote:
>>Disney very likely got it from
>>Shakespeare, however, as in the original story, the mermaid turns into an
>>air spirit. Thus the name. ;>
>
>Not necessarily.
>they tell me I got it from TLM.
><I didn't get it from either>
Well yes, but I believe the qualifying phrase was "very likely."
Larry Elie
>From: nyxn...@aol.com (Nyx Nshade)
>Subject: Re: What does the name "Ariel" mean?
>Date: 14 Apr 1995 06:04:19 -0400
><Does the name "Ariel" have a meaning?>
>It means "Lioness of God". Hebrew.
>My source is a few baby name books.
>Nyx
True enough, but the first reference is to 'yes folks, believe it or not!'
Jerusalem:
Isaiah 29:1; "Woe to Ariel, to Ariel, the city [where] David dwelt! add ye
year to year; let them kill sacrifices." There are others.
For those of you who didn't know, the city where David dwelt was Jerusalem.
Suprise. Now perhaps some on the anti-religious side will want to ban LM.
Larry Elie
le...@smail.srl.ford.com
J.A. Browner
>><Does the name "Ariel" have a meaning?>
>
>>It means "Lioness of God". Hebrew.
>
>>My source is a few baby name books.
>
>>Nyx
>
>True enough, but the first reference is to 'yes folks, believe it or not!'
>Jerusalem:
Tempest," which (as far as I know) doesn't have anything the far right
can get too offended by. :-)
Cheers,
Jessica