OT: 2010
--Fizzie
another one, bright with promise, begins.
Hope everyone has a safe, prosperous, fulfilling, entertaining,
loving, and very mickey 2010.
-Fizzie
Keane
What she said. (It's over in the Central Time zone...)
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Steve Russo
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> Hope everyone has a safe, prosperous, fulfilling, entertaining,
> loving, and very mickey 2010.
>
I second that sentiment.
Now... I've been saying "two thousand seven, two thousand eight, two
thousand nine...". Lately, all I seem to hear is "twenty-ten", not "two
thousand ten". Which is it?
Lisa Cubbon
Lisa Cubbon
sounds too biblical to me. Lisa
--Fizzie
> Steve Russo wrote:
> > "--Fizzie" <BlueCastle1...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> - Show quoted text -
Gotta go with Twenty-Ten..... like the "2001" movie sequel.
Love the way it trips off the tongue.... twenty-ten.
-Fizzie
jt august
"Steve Russo" <sru...@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
> Now... I've been saying "two thousand seven, two thousand eight, two
> thousand nine...". Lately, all I seem to hear is "twenty-ten", not "two
> thousand ten". Which is it?
All I know for sure is it is Odyssey Two (which is also my favorite
vintage video game system).
jt
JackM
twenty-ten. After all, you didn't hear 1967 called one thousand nine
hundred sixty seven very often, right? ;-)
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jt august
JackM <not...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> I don't care what turns out to be the "accepted" way. I'm calling it
> twenty-ten. After all, you didn't hear 1967 called one thousand nine
> hundred sixty seven very often, right? ;-)
I've been hanging with the y2k inspired name structure: 2k1, 2k2, etc.
I think I'm going to have some fun and call this 2K-X.
jt
Disney Wizard the Fantasmic!
Way back in 'ought two, Zed and I (who insists everyone call him Zed
even though he looks like a 'zee') were proposing that very same
question while considering the debacle of the recently government
sponsored 'Y2K' and bailout, followed by the digital broadcast
television government sponsorship and subsequent bailout to be. We came
to the conclusion that there must be a government program to help sway
opinion, spread the good word and other propaganda and collect everyone
onto the same census page, so we could have another bailout, and folks
would just go on doing what they were call it 2010 anyway, but with
fewer tax dollars in the treasury. Looking back, Banks and the Auto
industry were just a corporate energy bonus.
I recollect the folks way back called their times Eighteen and Ten, and
Nineteen-Ten a century or two ago, and some of them called Eighteen
Naught Two, or Nineteen 'ought Three. The winner by greatest usage would
be the form Nineteen 'oh' nine, where Nineteen-Nine was acceptable. I
haven't heard anyone call it Twenty 'oh' nine. But Twenty-Nine sounds
too much like 29, and could be confusing. Besides possibly indicating
the death of Mickey Mouse, MMX is a compact way to communicate the value
but could be confusing for the mere sake that our educational
institutions fail in practice of illuminating the Roman Numeral System,
So that's a trend I don't think you want to get stared, and then have to
live with. And if you think arithmetic is difficult in Roman, you'd be
right in reckoning higher mathematics right near impossible in Roman,
might as well use base 8 (octal) or base 64, unless you have
triskaidekaphilia (prime numbers tend to make rotten counting systems).
Up at the Griffith Observatory show where we partied like it was 1999,
the show in the Planetarium Dome stressed that this earth was around the
sun long before folks communicated a count of how many times, and where
they started and what numerical system they chose to label them were
entirely arbitrary. The earth doesn't care much less know, just as
rolling over 100,000 miles, to my truck was just another mile, and
couldn't begin to get excited about a tiny string of odometer numbers
all being zero, unlike its cheering occupants.
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The funniest thing I ever got in an email was about the Y2K scare.
Some guy wanted me to send him $300.00 so he could back up the internet on 3
1/2" floppies.
hahahahahaha
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JerryD(upstateNY)
Rudeney
>
> Now... I've been saying "two thousand seven, two thousand eight, two
> thousand nine...". Lately, all I seem to hear is "twenty-ten", not "two
> thousand ten". Which is it?
I'll probably be saying "two thousand ten". I know that contradicts the
way I used to say "nineteen ninety-whatever", but it just sounds better
to me than "twenty ten", and far better than "two oh ten." (My
brother-in-law sells cars and he has been saying for months that
customers have been coming in asking to see the, "oh-ten" models.)
Now, one of my grammar pet peeves is people who say "two thousand and
whatever". There is no "and" in it. When writing out or stating
numbers, the word "and" is used to denote a fractional component such as
with, "nineteen dollars and ninety nine cents," or, "four and a half
years old." I wouldn't bother to correct anyone, but it just sets off
my grammar alarm.
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Late chiming in here but hoping 2010 is much better than 2009 for you!
Michelle
Lisa Cubbon
> Steve Russo wrote:
>>
>> Now... I've been saying "two thousand seven, two thousand eight, two
>> thousand nine...". Lately, all I seem to hear is "twenty-ten", not
>> "two thousand ten". Which is it?
>
> I'll probably be saying "two thousand ten". I know that contradicts the
> way I used to say "nineteen ninety-whatever", but it just sounds better
> to me than "twenty ten", and far better than "two oh ten." (My
> brother-in-law sells cars and he has been saying for months that
> customers have been coming in asking to see the, "oh-ten" models.)
>
> Now, one of my grammar pet peeves is people who say "two thousand and
> whatever". There is no "and" in it. When writing out or stating
> numbers, the word "and" is used to denote a fractional component such as
> with, "nineteen dollars and ninety nine cents," or, "four and a half
> years old." I wouldn't bother to correct anyone, but it just sets off
> my grammar alarm.
>
>
Darrell Jefress
"Lisa Cubbon" <cub...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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>>
> Another thought.... M2X Well, I tried. (like Y2K)
The Golf Channel is calling it "2K10", pronounced "two kay ten".
The definitive source has spoken, I guess.
(If someone wants to toss in an "and" in the middle of whatever version use
they choose, it seems somewhat inconvenient, but since it's not really a
mathematical statement, I have no objection from principle. Starting with
"twenty" seems most consistent with what I've spent my life doing, and it
feels less awkward now that we're out of the "aughts".)
N via D
Keane
wrote:
>Now, one of my grammar pet peeves is people who say "two thousand and
>whatever". There is no "and" in it. When writing out or stating
>numbers, the word "and" is used to denote a fractional component such as
>with, "nineteen dollars and ninety nine cents," or, "four and a half
>years old." I wouldn't bother to correct anyone, but it just sets off
>my grammar alarm.
So Lincoln was wrong in his Gettysburg address when he wrote "Four
score and seven years ago"? Now, if you're going to say he was
talking in base 20, and 7 was a fractional, then how do you know the
person who says "two thousand and ten" isn't talking in base 1000?
Grammar alarm. Sheesh. ;-)
Rudeney
> On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 10:32:47 -0600, Rudeney <rud...@mickeypics.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Now, one of my grammar pet peeves is people who say "two thousand and
>> whatever". There is no "and" in it. When writing out or stating
>> numbers, the word "and" is used to denote a fractional component such as
>> with, "nineteen dollars and ninety nine cents," or, "four and a half
>> years old." I wouldn't bother to correct anyone, but it just sets off
>> my grammar alarm.
>
> So Lincoln was wrong in his Gettysburg address when he wrote "Four
> score and seven years ago"? Now, if you're going to say he was
> talking in base 20, and 7 was a fractional,
In this case, the word "and" connects two different scales. Although a
score is made up of years, is not a year; it's 20 years. So, Lincoln
was saying, "four of these and seven of those."
> then how do you know the
> person who says "two thousand and ten" isn't talking in base 1000?
When saying 2010, it's all the same scale. Saying, "two-thousand and
ten" is like saying "two thousand of these and ten of these," which
makes it redundant. If speaking in base 1,000, you would not say the
word thousand. You'd say, "two and one one-hundredth." Then again, I'm
not sure that 0.01 in base 1,000 would actually be a "hundredth". I'd
have to consult a mathematician on that. ;-)
> Grammar alarm. Sheesh. ;-)
Grammar is what separates man from savage. Or at least New Jersey. ;-)
Darrell Jefress
"Rudeney" <rud...@mickeypics.com> wrote in message
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> In this case, the word "and" connects two different scales. Although a
> score is made up of years, is not a year; it's 20 years. So, Lincoln was
> saying, "four of these and seven of those."
Rodney, since you asked for a mathematician . . . .
I'm not quite sure what differentiates "score" from "hundred", and yet I'm
pretty sure that you're right, in that one naturally takes an "and" while
the other does not. Perhaps it's because "hundred" is a unit inherent in the
choice of numbering system itself, whereas "score" is not.
I grew up thinking that a "score" meant "twenty years", while actually it
refers to twenty of anything. It may be that it was because of Lincoln that
we thought of it that way.
> When saying 2010, it's all the same scale. Saying, "two-thousand and ten"
> is like saying "two thousand of these and ten of these," which makes it
> redundant. If speaking in base 1,000, you would not say the word
> thousand. You'd say, "two and one one-hundredth." Then again, I'm not
> sure that 0.01 in base 1,000 would actually be a "hundredth". I'd have to
> consult a mathematician on that. ;-)
If we were going to work in base 1000 - which would require us cooking up
990 more symbols in the same way that we added six more symbols to work in
Hex - then the number we all know as "2010" would be written just as "2@",
where "@" is the "digit" that represents "one more than 9". If, rather, we
were working in a system where the unit itself is a thousand years, then
2010 could be thought of as "2.01 kiloyears". And if we start mixing up
different bases with different units, we can come up with just about any
representation for 2010 that we can think of.
> Grammar is what separates man from savage. Or at least New Jersey. ;-)
I was thinking more of Philadelphia.
When it comes to how we choose to verbalize numbers, I have a hunch that how
something "feels" may be the biggest determinant of how in conventionally
gets pronounced. Add to that the notion that when thinking about how to
identify years, the year is probably just as much a "label" as it is a
numerical quantity and that changes things that much more. If we're talking
about bushels of wheat, I suspect we would say "nineteen hundred (and)
seventy eight", but for the second year of the Carter administration, it was
just "nineteen seventy eight".
It's a similar thing with money. The girl at the cash register says "eleven
thirty six" and we know how much money she wants, even though the weight of
the corn in my basket is "eleven point three six" pounds (or, more likely,
"eleven pounds and six ounces").
N via D
Dillon Pyron
How come we don't have lots of space stations? And hotels? And a
PanAm shuttle to them? Where's our moonbase?
Okay, I have more horespower in my iPhone than HAL.
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Hey, turnabout's fair play.
Keane
<invalid...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>[Default] Thus spake jt august <star...@sbcglobal.net>:
>
>>In article <hhkvpp$7mk$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
>> "Steve Russo" <sru...@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Now... I've been saying "two thousand seven, two thousand eight, two
>>> thousand nine...". Lately, all I seem to hear is "twenty-ten", not "two
>>> thousand ten". Which is it?
>>
>>All I know for sure is it is Odyssey Two (which is also my favorite
>>vintage video game system).
>>
>>jt
>
>How come we don't have lots of space stations? And hotels? And a
>PanAm shuttle to them? Where's our moonbase?
<spoiler>
I'd really like the second sun.
</spoiler>
And my office at the UoC looks *nothing* like Chandra's, either.
>Okay, I have more horespower in my iPhone than HAL.
I dunno. Really high-end computing existed in 2001. I suppose
HAL was built in the late 1990's, but probably would have been
a Cray level machine...
Keane
wrote:
So long as we're dragging old posts up from the dead,
you will be happy to know that Disney has officially
decided it's twenty-10, and you can get a shirt to
prove it.
Dillon Pyron
>On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 09:33:35 -0600, Dillon Pyron
><invalid...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>[Default] Thus spake jt august <star...@sbcglobal.net>:
>>
>>>In article <hhkvpp$7mk$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
>>> "Steve Russo" <sru...@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Now... I've been saying "two thousand seven, two thousand eight, two
>>>> thousand nine...". Lately, all I seem to hear is "twenty-ten", not "two
>>>> thousand ten". Which is it?
>>>
>>>All I know for sure is it is Odyssey Two (which is also my favorite
>>>vintage video game system).
>>>
>>>jt
>>
>>How come we don't have lots of space stations? And hotels? And a
>>PanAm shuttle to them? Where's our moonbase?
>
><spoiler>
>I'd really like the second sun.
></spoiler>
>
>And my office at the UoC looks *nothing* like Chandra's, either.
>
>>Okay, I have more horespower in my iPhone than HAL.
>
>I dunno. Really high-end computing existed in 2001. I suppose
>HAL was built in the late 1990's, but probably would have been
>a Cray level machine...
>
>Keane
True, a Cray II was about the size (and shape, and upholserting) as a
horrible 1970s sofa, but HAL was about the size of a school bus.
I had a 64 node Beowulf cluster heating my office that was estimated
at around 25 MFLOPS. Cost me about $10K to build. About twice the go
juice of the $50M Cray II.
Dillon Pyron
>[Default] Thus spake jt august <star...@sbcglobal.net>:
>
>>In article <hhkvpp$7mk$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
>> "Steve Russo" <sru...@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Now... I've been saying "two thousand seven, two thousand eight, two
>>> thousand nine...". Lately, all I seem to hear is "twenty-ten", not "two
>>> thousand ten". Which is it?
>>
>>All I know for sure is it is Odyssey Two (which is also my favorite
>>vintage video game system).
>>
>>jt
>
>How come we don't have lots of space stations? And hotels? And a
>PanAm shuttle to them? Where's our moonbase?
>
>Okay, I have more horespower in my iPhone than HAL.
Oh yeah.
I WANT MY FLYING CAR!!!!
jt august
Dillon Pyron <invalid...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
> [Default] Thus spake Dillon Pyron <invalid...@austin.rr.com>:
>
> >[Default] Thus spake jt august <star...@sbcglobal.net>:
> >
> >>In article <hhkvpp$7mk$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> >> "Steve Russo" <sru...@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Now... I've been saying "two thousand seven, two thousand eight, two
> >>> thousand nine...". Lately, all I seem to hear is "twenty-ten", not "two
> >>> thousand ten". Which is it?
> >>
> >>All I know for sure is it is Odyssey Two (which is also my favorite
> >>vintage video game system).
> >>
> >>jt
> >
> >How come we don't have lots of space stations? And hotels? And a
> >PanAm shuttle to them? Where's our moonbase?
> >
> >Okay, I have more horespower in my iPhone than HAL.
>
>
> Oh yeah.
>
> I WANT MY FLYING CAR!!!!
And we're just five years away from the Cubs winning the World Series.
(Oops, that's Universal Studios, isn't it?)
jt
jt august
Dillon Pyron <invalid...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
> True, a Cray II was about the size (and shape, and upholserting) as a
> horrible 1970s sofa, but HAL was about the size of a school bus.
>
> I had a 64 node Beowulf cluster heating my office that was estimated
> at around 25 MFLOPS. Cost me about $10K to build. About twice the go
> juice of the $50M Cray II.
And to think that there are enthusiasts currently working on Cray
emulators for today's PC's.
jt
Keane
<invalid...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
Yeah, Kubrick and Clarke got a few other things wrong too. Though
HAL did had optical recognition and could read lips... :-)
>I had a 64 node Beowulf cluster heating my office that was estimated
>at around 25 MFLOPS. Cost me about $10K to build. About twice the go
>juice of the $50M Cray II.
Did it ever work? Someone I know put one together, and it sort of
just went away and was never heard from again...
Keane
<invalid...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>[Default] Thus spake Dillon Pyron <invalid...@austin.rr.com>:
>
>>[Default] Thus spake jt august <star...@sbcglobal.net>:
>>
>>>In article <hhkvpp$7mk$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
>>> "Steve Russo" <sru...@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Now... I've been saying "two thousand seven, two thousand eight, two
>>>> thousand nine...". Lately, all I seem to hear is "twenty-ten", not "two
>>>> thousand ten". Which is it?
>>>
>>>All I know for sure is it is Odyssey Two (which is also my favorite
>>>vintage video game system).
>>>
>>>jt
>>
>>How come we don't have lots of space stations? And hotels? And a
>>PanAm shuttle to them? Where's our moonbase?
>>
>>Okay, I have more horespower in my iPhone than HAL.
>
>
>Oh yeah.
>
>I WANT MY FLYING CAR!!!!
Anti-gravity sleds, too. My back would really appreciate that.