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DisneyFanLA

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Mar 4, 2003, 2:49:43 AM3/4/03
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I've just returned from trip to WDW and noticed a few things that
everyone could do to make the trip a little more enjoyable. Keep in
mind these thoughts are from an adult who travels with other adults, no
kids.

Security
It's a way of life now when we go to places where large crowds gather.
Just adjust for it and take the minute or so to let security have a look
and, possibly ask questions. While I was in a security line to get into
a park, woman had opened her bag and security noticed a syringe. The
guard asked her about and she immediately became upset, started yelling,
etc. Somewhere in her rant, she indicated that it was for insulin for
her child. Not a problem with that, but no reason to get upset for
someone asking. Security is concerned about people being stuck with
needles and they need to ask if they see one.

Watch where you're going!
You've left the safety of your home and have to move around with lots of
other people moving around you. I can't tell you how many people I see
in theme parks where their body (with child/stroller/etc) is going in
one direction and their head is turned in a completely different
direction. Bigger people get bumped this way and I've seen a few little
kids get knocked down this way.

Move out of the way when you need to stop.
There are lot of people on the pathways trying to get around. If you
and your group need to stop, just move to the side so others can get
around you.

Get walkie talkies if you're with a family/group that needs to be in
contact.
How many of us have been in a theme park environment when the person
standing right next to you decides to get the attention of someone else
100 yards away by yelling at the top of their lungs? Right in your ear...

Don't use your kids as an excuse to be rude.
(Again, I'm an adult with no kids).
I've seen people shove their kids in front of others to get a look at a
character, parade, etc. If people are in a prime spot for something
like a parade, chances are they waited there a long time to get it. If
you have little ones who might fit in front to have a better view, just
nicely ask the person to do so. Don't just push your kids in the way.
Your children are your responsibility, no one else's.
Another favorite of mine on this point: Family with kids is standing
right up front with nothing blocking their prime view. Parade starts
and then dad puts the little one on top of his shoulders thereby
blocking the view of everyone behind them.....gimmee a break!
Nothing makes a peace-loving adult want to sock a rude adult in the
chops as much as when they hear the words "But it's for my kid!"

Don't use that wheeled vehicle (stroller, etc) as a battering ram.
There's a difference between getting around through a crowd and pushing
people out of the way.

Just want everyone to have a better time! Feel free to add or comment
as you like.

Tom Morrow

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"DisneyFanLA" <disne...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> I've just returned from trip to WDW and noticed a few things that
> everyone could do to make the trip a little more enjoyable. Keep in
> mind these thoughts are from an adult who travels with other adults, no
> kids.
>
> Security
> It's a way of life now when we go to places where large crowds gather.
> Just adjust for it and take the minute or so to let security have a look
> and, possibly ask questions. While I was in a security line to get into
> a park, woman had opened her bag and security noticed a syringe. The
> guard asked her about and she immediately became upset, started yelling,
> etc. Somewhere in her rant, she indicated that it was for insulin for
> her child. Not a problem with that, but no reason to get upset for
> someone asking. Security is concerned about people being stuck with
> needles and they need to ask if they see one.

Better yet, don't bring any bags with you. I don't understand why people
feel the need to bring backpacks and the like with them(in the case of the
above woman I can understand why). If you are carrying nothing you can
breeze right through without waiting.

>
> Watch where you're going!
> You've left the safety of your home and have to move around with lots of
> other people moving around you. I can't tell you how many people I see
> in theme parks where their body (with child/stroller/etc) is going in
> one direction and their head is turned in a completely different
> direction. Bigger people get bumped this way and I've seen a few little
> kids get knocked down this way.

Agreed!

>
> Move out of the way when you need to stop.
> There are lot of people on the pathways trying to get around. If you
> and your group need to stop, just move to the side so others can get
> around you.
>

Totally agreed! There is nothing more annoying than people stopping to chat
in the way of people trying to get by. It's like at the supermarket when
people will stop in the middle of the aisle to chat it up. C'mon people the
supermarket is for grocery shopping not for catching up on the latest
gossip. There are telephones or living rooms for that.


> Get walkie talkies if you're with a family/group that needs to be in
> contact.
> How many of us have been in a theme park environment when the person
> standing right next to you decides to get the attention of someone else
> 100 yards away by yelling at the top of their lungs? Right in your ear...

Never seemed to have a problem with this. But agreed!

>
> Don't use your kids as an excuse to be rude.
> (Again, I'm an adult with no kids).
> I've seen people shove their kids in front of others to get a look at a
> character, parade, etc. If people are in a prime spot for something
> like a parade, chances are they waited there a long time to get it. If
> you have little ones who might fit in front to have a better view, just
> nicely ask the person to do so. Don't just push your kids in the way.
> Your children are your responsibility, no one else's.
> Another favorite of mine on this point: Family with kids is standing
> right up front with nothing blocking their prime view. Parade starts
> and then dad puts the little one on top of his shoulders thereby
> blocking the view of everyone behind them.....gimmee a break!
> Nothing makes a peace-loving adult want to sock a rude adult in the
> chops as much as when they hear the words "But it's for my kid!"
>

Agreed Again! Plus, I truly think that Disneyworld is no place for little
kids. Wait until their a little older or at least can control themselves to
bring to Disney. It makes me ill when I see people disregard their own
parental responsibility. Others shouldn't have to ammomidate the bad
behavior of your kids espcially when it is the parents encouraging this
behaviour.


> Don't use that wheeled vehicle (stroller, etc) as a battering ram.
> There's a difference between getting around through a crowd and pushing
> people out of the way.

Agreed again. Just because you have a disability you have no more rights
than an able bodied person. You should follow the same rules as all of us!

Steve Russo

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Mar 4, 2003, 5:44:57 AM3/4/03
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"DisneyFanLA" <disne...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> Move out of the way when you need to stop.
> There are lot of people on the pathways trying to get around. If you
> and your group need to stop, just move to the side so others can get
> around you.
>
My personal pet peeve. Nicely done all around. Think we can get WDW to post
this in each park?

SGC

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Mar 4, 2003, 5:56:21 AM3/4/03
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Good List!! My husband is constantly trying to teach me the one about NOT
stopping in front of the traffic flow (a no-no I engage in when things
aren't crowded & I'm not in any danger -- but I forget that it's also as
annoying as h*ll to the people trying to get somewhere).
SGC

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Schnauzers

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Mar 4, 2003, 6:41:11 AM3/4/03
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Some of us bring camera equipment, food, drinks, etc. in those bags. Please
don't generalize. As a photographer, my backpack is very important to me.

Schnauxers
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Schnauzers

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Mar 4, 2003, 6:45:22 AM3/4/03
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A few more:

Clean off your table when your done eating.
Don't feed the birds. They're annoying enough as it is.
Don't take two parking spaces.
Keep your stroller in front of you instead of taking up an empty seat on the
bus or monorail.

Schnauzers


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pa...@ziplip.com

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Mar 4, 2003, 6:29:24 AM3/4/03
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In article <3E645A81...@sbcglobal.net>, DisneyFanLA says...
>
Good points. Here's a few more.

If you eat at a cafeteria in WDW, pick up your garbage and give the table a wipe
before you leave. I've seen families leave ketchup and wrappers and spilled pop
and a three foot deep moat of slop around a table at outdoor cafeteria areas in
WDW. I've even seen a husband stop his wife from picking their mess up, saying
"we pay Disney alot of money for us to be here. It's their job to clean up after
us and it keeps the janitors in jobs."

Watch the cursing. It's not so bad at WDW, as it is at Universal Studios since
US has more teenagers and college age kids there.

It is generally accepted that if you are going to go out into a large public
area like church or an amusement park, that you lay-off the perfume. Many people
are allergic to it and become captive to your chemicals when standing in crowded
lines.

Mind popping a breath mint after sucking down that cancer stick? People don't
realize how much they stink after smoking. If you're a smoker with bad breath,
you'll likely smell a little gift from me, too. It's called a fart.

Hows about waiting to get junior back to the hotel before yelling at him. Kids
can be stinkers at the parks but sometimes the worst of parents comes out too.

A little concept called moderation is called for when the parks are completely
full. So try riding a ride once, and moving on, to give others a chance to ride
it. All too often kids and young adults just get off the exit and go right back
into the line, riding an attraction over and over again. It's a free country so
do what you want, but if you were raised right, you'd take your turn and then
let others get on. Most of Disney's larger attractions can only let about 1/3 of
the guests on in a day's time since ride capacity usually doesn't exceed 2000
per hour. So for every extra ride someone takes, another person can't get on.

This one isn't too important, but you know...it would be nice if it didn't look
like 50,000 prudes walking around the parks with veritable scowls on their
faces. Everyone seems so into their own thing and some kind of crowd mentality
takes over where people get this glazed over look on their face as they stumble
about the parks. Try offering a few warm smiles, before someone smiles at you
first. Be aware of your surroundings and that you are there with tens of
thousands of others and together, we comprise the experience.

Paul T.

Rick S Haye

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Mar 4, 2003, 8:35:32 AM3/4/03
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This message is amazing, DisneyFanLA, has put my thoughts into words. Some
people seem to put their brains and common sense into the lockers as they
enter the parks.

Rick

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Rick S Haye

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Mar 4, 2003, 8:37:20 AM3/4/03
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More good points, I hope people will read them, recognize themselves and
remember them the next time they go to WDW.

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OJ

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Mar 4, 2003, 9:26:20 AM3/4/03
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DisneyFanLA <disne...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:<3E645A81...@sbcglobal.net>...
> I've just returned from trip to WDW and noticed a few things that
> everyone could do to make the trip a little more enjoyable. Keep in
> mind these thoughts are from an adult who travels with other adults, no
> kids.
>
> Security
> It's a way of life now when we go to places where large crowds gather.
> Just adjust for it and take the minute or so to let security have a look
> and, possibly ask questions. While I was in a security line to get into
> a park, woman had opened her bag and security noticed a syringe. The
> guard asked her about and she immediately became upset, started yelling,
> etc. Somewhere in her rant, she indicated that it was for insulin for
> her child. Not a problem with that, but no reason to get upset for
> someone asking. Security is concerned about people being stuck with
> needles and they need to ask if they see one.
>

Hi,

While she should have warned them about it if they were sticking their
hands in her bag, I see no need for security to ask someone about
something private like medical supplies. It's not dangerous to
others, and does not need to be discussed in an open area.

oj

Eyeluvdiznee

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Mar 4, 2003, 9:46:20 AM3/4/03
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>>Watch the cursing. It's not so bad at WDW, as it is at Universal Studios
since
> US has more teenagers and college age kids there.>>


there is alot more alcohol here too.
especially now for mardi gras, there are vendors just walking around the
park selling drinks and beers.
I have seen many adults bringing their drinks with them into the kidzone.
I don't have a problem with it, but it's kind of weird to do.


Eyeluvdiznee

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Mar 4, 2003, 10:03:06 AM3/4/03
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how about not only having your bags ready and opened, but after they have
checked your stuff, you move to the empty table that is usually afterwards
to close all your stuff!
I have seen sooooo many people not only NOT ready when they get up there
(come on if you are standing there for 5 minutes why would you not be
ready!)
and then afterwards we have to stand behind and wait while you (meaning
they) close EVER freaking zipper and pocket that they have!
this really makes me mad! and it shows no consideration for the other people
waiting in line!

and how about being just a smidge friendly to the security guys?????
everyone I have seen go threw the check points, act like they are getting a
rectal exam!
they are doing this for our safety, so maybe we should all just be alittle
more nicer to them!


> I've seen people shove their kids in front of others to get a look at a
> character, parade, etc. If people are in a prime spot for something
> like a parade, chances are they waited there a long time to get it. If
> you have little ones who might fit in front to have a better view, just
> nicely ask the person to do so.>>


I totally agree!
I absolutely HATE this about people!
I hate that they expect you to just part ways for their kids, when they were
not considerate enough to even show up in time!
I hate seeing a couple with no kids get shoved to the side for some moron
who does have kids!
and then if and when they do ask to put their kids up front and you say no,
they act like you are the devil!
most of the time I will say no until the parade actually starts
and then if they are nice about it, I will let their child up in front of
us.
I have actually had a family of six squeeze into a spot for one stroller!
and the end result was that we (who were waiting for about 45 minutes)
couldn't see anything because these people who we let in, totally cut us off
with all of their family, and were not even nice enough to sit on the curb!
so I have learned that if I am sitting there and waiting, it is my RIGHT to
say no to these people if I want and I will not feel bad about it either!
and I hope that others out there will not feel bad if they say no too!


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Amanda

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Mar 4, 2003, 10:06:19 AM3/4/03
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>I have seen many adults bringing their drinks with them into the kidzone.
>I don't have a problem with it, but it's kind of weird to do.
>

You think that's odd, every year I see at least three families on Halloween out
trick or treating with the kids, beers in hand!

TDC Ginny Favers, Captive Princess of Chickapin Hill
Planning my next trip way, way, way too far in advance:
2003 & 2004 - Fort Wilderness in a tent or something cheap or free off-site
2005 - Disney's Polynesian Resort or Bust!

MichelleinAtlanta

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Mar 4, 2003, 10:39:20 AM3/4/03
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So true! My husband talks to everyone...in queues, on the monorail, at the
pool. Just this last trip, we heard all the details of a Disney pavilion
wedding from the honeymooning couple, tried a restaurant we wouldn't
otherwise have done on a stranger's recommendation, met a family from Norway
while in line for Maelstrom and learned about lutefisk(sp?)...A large part
of our Disney experience is talking to people and sharing stories.
Michelle in Atlanta

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> In article <3E645A81...@sbcglobal.net>, DisneyFanLA says...

> This one isn't too important, but you know...it would be nice if it didn't

MickeyM©

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AMEN to that!
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Doom and Gloomer Denise

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Mar 4, 2003, 11:10:00 AM3/4/03
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<< Clean off your table when your done eating. >><BR><BR>

And don't change your baby on the table or the lunch tray! :)

Denise

Dave in Dallas

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Mar 4, 2003, 11:23:32 AM3/4/03
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DisneyFanLA wrote

>Get walkie talkies if you're with a family/group that needs to be in
>contact.

Most of your points I agree with. But not this one. I hate those damned
walkie-talkies. They are noisey and intrusive. If your group is going to split
up, make a plan to meet at a certain time and place and stick to it. Don't
bother others with your noise polution.

>How many of us have been in a theme park environment when the person
>standing right next to you decides to get the attention of someone else
>100 yards away by yelling at the top of their lungs? Right in your ear...

Hey, a walkie talkie doesn't give someone a clue into good manners. If they
are going to yell at someone across the way at the top of their lungs, what
makes you think they'd use the walkie talking in a considerate manner?


Dave, Dallas, TX

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of making money." - Walt Disney

Lee Schwartzberg

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Mar 4, 2003, 11:29:37 AM3/4/03
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My addition? If you're a party of 3 or more, try not to walk 3, 4, 5
abreast so that folks are unable to pass you. Large groups, taking up the
entire width of a walking path, irritates me to no end (seems to be a
problem at AK mostly).

Lee

In article <3E645A81...@sbcglobal.net>,

Dave in Dallas

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Tom Morrow wrote:

>Better yet, don't bring any bags with you. I don't understand why people
>feel the need to bring backpacks and the like with them

You know, after years of theme park touring, I've come to a place where I know
what I need to have with me for the day. Things like an small umbrella for
flash rainstorms, sunblock for reapplications, band aids for blisters, pain
meds for headaches and joint pain, water bottle and a light jacket for the
evening. Not to mention perscription meds I have to take at certain times of
the day. Plus if I make a purchase I have a place to put it instead of carrying
it around in my hand. I don't carry a backpack. I carry a theme park survival
kit. Sorry, but I won't do without these things when I visit a theme park for
the day.

Lee Schwartzberg

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Mar 4, 2003, 11:35:19 AM3/4/03
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In article <77d3a68b.03030...@posting.google.com>,
orlj...@aol.com (OJ) wrote:

The woman knew what the syringe was for, the security guards did not.
Syringes, for the most part, are for medical applications, but have been
know to be used for attacks on innocents. I have no problem with the
guards asking about the syringe. It was the prudent, safe thing to do.

Lee
>
> oj

The American

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Mar 4, 2003, 11:48:24 AM3/4/03
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"Dave in Dallas" <dav...@aol.comnojunk> wrote in message
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> DisneyFanLA wrote
>
> >Get walkie talkies if you're with a family/group that needs to be in
> >contact.
>
> Most of your points I agree with. But not this one. I hate those damned
> walkie-talkies. They are noisey and intrusive. If your group is going to
split
> up, make a plan to meet at a certain time and place and stick to it.
Don't
> bother others with your noise polution.
>

no way.
they're great!
plans change all the time.
leave it on so your friends can hear you falling on the Tower of Terror for
example.
use them coordinate times with other groups (like the group that is never on
time for instance).
we used them the last time we went and it was great.

also use them to listen in on others in the park.
very funny
if you like "things you overheard in the park" you'll enjoy that. (before
you flame, you can't help but hear people if they are using your same
frequency. sometime you have to adjust.)
some have a 5 mile radius now and clip right on your belt like a phone.
cheap too but not very effective if you're in a building.

T.A.

Robb

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"Doom and Gloomer Denise" <tinyb...@aol.comnojunk> wrote in message
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> << Clean off your table when your done eating. >><BR><BR>
>
> And don't change your baby on the table or the lunch tray! :)
>
> Denise

Ewwww.
Robb


epcot fan

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Mar 4, 2003, 12:07:01 PM3/4/03
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Ditto!!!

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epcot fan

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I think they should ask about objects that could possibly inflict harm. I'm
sure the person got the same question at the airport when going through
security. What is the difference? All they had to say is this is for
insulin, etc...No biggie.

Bob Richmond

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oj,

>> I see no need for security to ask someone about something private
like medical supplies. <<

..maybe like a scalpel!!!!

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Steve Pyles

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Mar 4, 2003, 12:44:40 PM3/4/03
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Agreed.

However, ditto for those Mobile Phone users. Modern electronics have made
it possible to have very small and very sensitive receptors in phones, so
you don't have to SHOUT to have a conversation. Same for the new "walkie
talkies". I really don't need to hear what is simply TMI. You can speak
in a normal or low tone, and should still be able to hear your recipient.
If not, then you should get your phone looked at, and your hearing checked
at the same time, since most people, by habit, raise their voices when on
the phone or using walkie-talkies, and they shouldn't have to. Plus,
those "BEEP BEEP" noises on the walkie-talkies are just a nuisance.

And ditto for those using cell phones in queues for attractions or in
merchandise/food stops. If the attraction is that boring, or if you could
simply care less about ordering your food or paying for your merchandise
rather than talking on your little wireless leash, then step outta line!

The above comes from waiting in a queue at the Emporium at MK, with the
person in front of me talking on the phone about their loose bowels
they've had while they were on vacation at WDW. That is simply TMI to
me. I've had other "lesser" issues living in Dallas, though it seems
like I run into the rude mobile phone users here on a frequent basis.
Including one person who put up their hand to the checkout person at Best
Buy in a "STOP" fashion since they were on their phone, and paying for
their merchandise wasn't as important as the conversation.

I refuse to have a cell, or those darnfangled walkie-talkies. I have a
wonderful Toll-Free pager that anyone can use to leave me a voice text
page from any phone at WDW, and a Blackberry that I can use to
send/receive email, faxes, and pages as well (also a Toll Free number).
Besides, the payphones at WDW seem to be readily available, since most
people do use their mobiles. :-)

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Eyeluvdiznee

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Mar 4, 2003, 12:46:04 PM3/4/03
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that is what I was thinking.

at epcot on Sunday, at the checkpoint, a woman security guard asked me
specifically what "this is" and she was pointing to a bottle of purel hand
sanitizer!

I wasn't offended.
but I did find it funny that she was questioning this! ; 0 )


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Steve Pyles

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Mar 4, 2003, 12:49:53 PM3/4/03
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...don't forget about on the way to WDW. If you're flying, don't change
your baby on your seat tray, or in the seat/aisle next to you.

*bleh* :-)

--
Steve Pyles

Judy

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pa...@ziplip.com wrote in message news:<b422m...@drn.newsguy.com>...
> In article <3E645A81...@sbcglobal.net>, DisneyFanLA says...
> >
>> A little concept called moderation is called for when the parks are
completely
> full. So try riding a ride once, and moving on, to give others a chance to ride
> it. All too often kids and young adults just get off the exit and go right back
> into the line, riding an attraction over and over again. It's a free country so
> do what you want, but if you were raised right, you'd take your turn and then
> let others get on. Most of Disney's larger attractions can only let about 1/3 of
> the guests on in a day's time since ride capacity usually doesn't exceed 2000
> per hour. So for every extra ride someone takes, another person can't get on.
>
Do I hear the words RIDE HOG anywhere???????
And as one who does get off a ride and get back in line, thanks for
calling me a young adult. I appreciate it.:-)

Lee Schwartzberg

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> A little concept called moderation is called for when the parks are completely
> full. So try riding a ride once, and moving on, to give others a chance
to ride
> it. All too often kids and young adults just get off the exit and go
right back
> into the line, riding an attraction over and over again. It's a free
country so
> do what you want, but if you were raised right, you'd take your turn and then
> let others get on. Most of Disney's larger attractions can only let
about 1/3 of
> the guests on in a day's time since ride capacity usually doesn't exceed 2000
> per hour. So for every extra ride someone takes, another person can't get on.

I don't think this one is fair at all. If someone wants to spend their
entire day riding Space Mountain, good for them. It's not like they get to
skip the line after the first ride - they're waiting, too. If it's that
important for someone to ride something, use the system - FastPass, visit
the parks in off season, take advantage of early entry, or simply wait in
line. If someone is willing to wait in line, over and over again, to
re-ride a ride, more power to 'em. Doesn't bother me at all. Admission is
too pricey to even suggest limiting (out of consideration of others, not
because of a WDW rule) the number of times someone should ride a
particular attraction. I've been known to ride Buzz 7 times in one day.
Used the system, and made it happen, because that's what we wanted to do.

Lee

Doom and Gloomer Denise

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<< I think they should ask about objects that could possibly inflict harm.
>><BR><BR>

At the same time, they sell those light sabers in the park to little kids so
they can go whack people in the knees with them. :)

Denise

Doom and Gloomer Denise

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<< at epcot on Sunday, at the checkpoint, a woman security guard asked me
specifically what "this is" and she was pointing to a bottle of purel hand
sanitizer! >><BR><BR>

I think I'd mentioned it here a little over a hear ago - a male "guard" at
Disneyland took out one of my Always and held it UP, and asked "what is THIS"?
I went to City Hall and said perhaps the guy security guards should have a
little sheet with the various forms of female protection (kind of like the
different kind of suitcases when your bag is lost at the aiport) so they know
what NOT to take out of a woman's purse (and what not to hold up in the air!)

Denise

Doom and Gloomer Denise

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Mar 4, 2003, 2:03:57 PM3/4/03
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<< Ewwww.
Robb >><BR><BR>

Have you not seen that before? :)

The worst was the lunch tray, but the table really isn't any better.
bleccch...

Denise

Doom and Gloomer Denise

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<< ...don't forget about on the way to WDW. If you're flying, don't change
your baby on your seat tray, or in the seat/aisle next to you. >><BR><BR>

I have never seen that before (and hopefully never will). I don't like seeing
babies changed anywhere but the bathroom so hopefully the mom (or dad) can also
clean their hands afterwards anyway.

Oh - and as I recall, the diaper got left on the lunch tray as well. Just a
little extra something-something for the next diner. :)

Denise

NPeveler

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Mar 4, 2003, 2:18:00 PM3/4/03
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Can I add one more thing? As a parent of two children (always perfect, of
course - LOL) can I ask parents to take their children out of the parks or at
least to someplace calmer when the children are having a total meltdown. I
know you have paid $40+ a day to enjoy the Mouse, but when a 3 or 4 year old is
hot, tired, hungry, thirsty or just on sensory overload, dragging them around
as they scream and you scream at them doesn't make ANYONE's day magical. It
should be obvious that when you take a small child to a place that is an
assault on the senses (even a good one like WDW) it can be overwhelming to them
and you are going to have to move at their pace and comfort level and not at
the commando speed that you were used to as a single person. A lot of toddlers
are far more fascinated by the fountains and the rocks in the grass than most
of the attractions in the World. I always feel so badly for the whole family
when everyone is screaming, overloaded and out of control. I also feel sorry
for my group who has to listen to a child scream at the top of his or her lungs
for the 25-40 minutes we have waited with him or her in line.

Sorry if this is an unpopular opinion, but on our last visit last June we saw
more meltdowns per square foot than ever before, and this just stood out.
Nancy

Dave in Dallas

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Mar 4, 2003, 2:19:34 PM3/4/03
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The American wrote:

re: walkie talkies

>no way.
>they're great!

For the user. But what about those around the user who has to listen to the
electronic noise of the things? They really are intrusive to those around the
user.

Dave in Dallas

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Mar 4, 2003, 2:36:11 PM3/4/03
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Doom and Gloomer Denise wrote:

>I don't like seeingbabies changed anywhere but the bathroom so hopefully the
>mom (or dad) can alsoclean their hands afterwards anyway.Oh - and as I


>recall, the diaper got left on the lunch tray as well.

Oh, NO! Please tell me you're kidding! Please! Boy this thread keeps getting
worse and worse. All I can say is that some people are just PIGS. No other
way to look at it. No, worse than pigs. Why isult the pigs?

Eyeluvdiznee

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Mar 4, 2003, 2:56:03 PM3/4/03
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OMG!
I have never seen this either!
I can't believe that someone would do that!
but then again, people are always shocking the heck out of me!


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Doom and Gloomer Denise

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<< Oh, NO! Please tell me you're kidding! Please! >><BR><BR>

Just make sure to never put your food directly on the lunch tray or table. :)

Denise

Eyeluvdiznee

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Mar 4, 2003, 3:00:07 PM3/4/03
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how horrible!

I have noticed that if I am carrying something like that in my purse, the
males get alittle squeamish!
I think that it's funny, but I have a weird sense of humor!
they will say something like, "ok, everything looks ok!"
and all they see is that with out asking me to move anything around.

men are silly!

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Dave in Dallas

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Eyeluvdiznee wrote:

>men are silly!

Come on. There are things that are gender specific to men that women don't
want to deal with either.

Dave in Dallas

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Mar 4, 2003, 3:04:28 PM3/4/03
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Doom and Gloomer Denise wrote:

>Just make sure to never put your food directly on the lunch tray or table.
>:)Denise

It's always icked me out when people let toddlers climb on eating tables with
their dirty shoes. But this little story makes the kids shoes seem like
nothing at all. Bleech!

Lee Schwartzberg

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In article <20030304150253...@mb-ba.aol.com>,

dav...@aol.comnojunk (Dave in Dallas) wrote:

> Eyeluvdiznee wrote:
>
> >men are silly!
>
> Come on. There are things that are gender specific to men that women don't
> want to deal with either.

Like what? What would a man carry in a daypack that would make a woman
uncomfortable? I'm curious!

Lee

Doom and Gloomer Denise

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<< Like what? What would a man carry in a daypack that would make a woman
uncomfortable? I'm curious! >><BR><BR>

I am not sure either. :)

Denise

Doom and Gloomer Denise

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I don't mind if men are a little squeamish - but please don't be taking my
items out of my purse and hold them up in the air all quizzical about them. :)

Denise

Dave in Dallas

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Mar 4, 2003, 3:15:01 PM3/4/03
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Lee Schwartzberg wrote:

>What would a man carry in a daypack that would make a woman
>uncomfortable? I'm curious!

I'm not talking about something that is carried in a daypack so much as I'm
talking about general things that are gender specific. There are certain
things about being male that make women uncomfortable just as there are things
about being female that men don't want to deal with.

Dave in Dallas

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Mar 4, 2003, 3:16:49 PM3/4/03
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Doom and Gloomer Denise wrote:

I understand that completely. Like being at the store and have a checker get
on the PA system and call for a price check on condoms. That happened to a
friend of mine. He said he wanted to find a hole and crawl into it when that
happened.

The American

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"Dave in Dallas" <dav...@aol.comnojunk> wrote in message
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> The American wrote:
>
> re: walkie talkies
>
> >no way.
> >they're great!
>
> For the user. But what about those around the user who has to listen to
the
> electronic noise of the things? They really are intrusive to those around
the
> user.
>
>

you must be thinking of phones or a type of walkie talkie i'm not familiar
with.
there's just a light beep.
but, to each his own.

T.A.


Dave in Dallas

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Mar 4, 2003, 3:38:19 PM3/4/03
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The American wrote:

>you must be thinking of phones or a type of walkie talkie i'm not familiar
>with.
>there's just a light beep.
>but, to each his own.

I'm talking about having to listen to the voice of the other person and the
static of the walkie talkie itself. It's usually loud, intrusive and
unpleasant to those around the person talking on the device. It's not the ring
or even a light signal of an incoming call that's the problem. It's the person
using them in close quarters like lines.

mercurywaxing

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Sily question, but isn't insulin supposed to be refrigerated? What was it
doing in her purse?

Mercury
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> Security
> It's a way of life now when we go to places where large crowds gather.
> Just adjust for it and take the minute or so to let security have a look
> and, possibly ask questions. While I was in a security line to get into
> a park, woman had opened her bag and security noticed a syringe. The
> guard asked her about and she immediately became upset, started yelling,
> etc. Somewhere in her rant, she indicated that it was for insulin for
> her child. Not a problem with that, but no reason to get upset for
> someone asking. Security is concerned about people being stuck with
> needles and they need to ask if they see one.


Eyeluvdiznee

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