Mulan VHS Edited?
Mythos
immediately. One I'll address here, and the other in my next post.
Is this video edited? I watched all of the first three minutes, and for
some reason, I remembered Shan-Yu killing the guard who he first meets on
the great wall...
Am I confusing this with another scene of the movie, or was it edited?
John
Mythos wrote:
In the theatres, we never saw him kill the guard.
Mythos
and I remember the scene you're referring to...it just seems like there was
something between Shan-Yu burning the flag in the torch, and the scene where
the invasion is reported to the emperor.
Oh well...
>I don't recall ever seeing anyone getting killed. About the only thing
>that came close was the scene where Shan-Yu asked his men how many
>soldiers it takes to deliver the message and the one with the bow
>answered, "One" and raised his bow, and then the scene cut to black
>before he shot the arrow.
The Gray Zombie
>I just sat down to watch my copy of Mulan, and two things struck me
>immediately. One I'll address here, and the other in my next post.
>
>Is this video edited? I watched all of the first three minutes, and for
>some reason, I remembered Shan-Yu killing the guard who he first meets on
>the great wall...
>
>Am I confusing this with another scene of the movie, or was it edited?
>
>
JivenMushu
of the wall. He climbs a wooden ladder, which Shan and Co. break. I dunno if
that's what you're referring to.
OperettaJK
In article <36b7c...@newsread.exodus.net>, "Mythos" <.> writes:
>Hmm. Perhaps you're right. I know they never *showed* anyone being killed,
>and I remember the scene you're referring to...it just seems like there was
>something between Shan-Yu burning the flag in the torch, and the scene where
>the invasion is reported to the emperor.
No. There's no scene cut from there. The theater version didn't show Shan Yu
killing the guard on the Wall either. Although you could imagine the end of
that guard.
Jeanne Burch
>
> I just sat down to watch my copy of Mulan, and two things struck me
> immediately. One I'll address here, and the other in my next post.
>
> Is this video edited? I watched all of the first three minutes, and for
> some reason, I remembered Shan-Yu killing the guard who he first meets on
> the great wall...
>
> Am I confusing this with another scene of the movie, or was it edited?
The guard was not killed on screen. The scene ended with Shan-Yu saying
"Perfect" after the guard taunted him with all of China now knowing he
was here.
Brave guard. But probably a pretty dead one two seconds after the camera
clicked off! ;-)
Jeanne
Ad...@merkley.com
something else struck me as odd. I seem to remember Mushu saying a lot more
as he and Cricket are impersonating the soldier. Is it just me, or did Mushu
say a few lines as the Panda was climbing-up the tree? Just wondering. . .
In article <19990202234353...@ng24.aol.com>,
jiven...@aol.com (JivenMushu) wrote:
> The soldier tries escaping Shan Yu and the big buff guy that invade his
section
> of the wall. He climbs a wooden ladder, which Shan and Co. break. I dunno
if
> that's what you're referring to.
>
> >Hmm. Perhaps you're right. I know they never *showed* anyone being killed,
> >and I remember the scene you're referring to...it just seems like there was
> >something between Shan-Yu burning the flag in the torch, and the scene where
> >the invasion is reported to the emperor.
> >
> >Oh well...
>
>
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Esme Longoria
I don't know. I didn't see mulan 15 times in the theatre like I did lion
king, so I probably wouldn't catch anything missing.
I felt like something was odd in that part, but who knows why.
Esme
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Mythos <.> wrote in message news:36b7c...@newsread.exodus.net...
>Hmm. Perhaps you're right. I know they never *showed* anyone being
killed,
>and I remember the scene you're referring to...it just seems like there was
>something between Shan-Yu burning the flag in the torch, and the scene
where
>the invasion is reported to the emperor.
>
>Oh well...
>
Jaime "Steward" chan
> if he'd like to stay for dinner, Grandma said if he'd like to stay forever,
> but it was cut out. All you see is Mulan and Shang nodding at her
> offscreen. Too bad, because it was a funny line...
Jaime Chan (Steward, Buckthorn)
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"So do car crashes." -Sam
Charles P. Buchanan
> > The movie WAS edited. I saw it today and at the end when Mulan asks Shang
> > if he'd like to stay for dinner, Grandma said if he'd like to stay forever,
> > but it was cut out. All you see is Mulan and Shang nodding at her
> > offscreen. Too bad, because it was a funny line...
>
I heard that line on my copy of the video. :)
--Charles Buchanan
OperettaJK
In article <36B93506...@yorku.ca>, Jaime \"Steward\" chan
<yu21...@yorku.ca> writes:
>> The movie WAS edited. I saw it today and at the end when Mulan asks Shang
>> if he'd like to stay for dinner, Grandma said if he'd like to stay forever,
>> but it was cut out. All you see is Mulan and Shang nodding at her
>> offscreen. Too bad, because it was a funny line...
Huh? My video tape clearly has Granny's line. Could it be your tape is
defective?
barry adams
included my findings from the movie for your requested part. i
compiled a script based on the theatrical release and not the video.
cheers.
Mushu [sitting on top of the panda bear behind a dummy of a soldier
using sticks to gesticulate with the dummy's arms to push the note
towards Chi Fu. Cri-Kee works the mouth]: Urgent news from the
general! [Chi Fu looks over the panda] What's the matter, you've
never seen a 'black and white' before?
Chi Fu: Who are you?
Mushu: Excuse me! I think the question is: who are you? We're in a
war man! There's no time for stupid questions. I should have your
hat for that, [the panda starts walking forward] snatch it right off
of your head [swiping with an arm at Chi Fu's hat. Mushu turns the
upper half of the dummy around after the panda passes Chi Fu. Chi Fu
begins reading the message]. But I'm feeling gracious today, so carry
on before I report you. [the panda walks up a tree taking Mushu and
Cri-Kee with him out of sight]
Chi Fu [looking around for Mushu but not finding him, then runs into
Shang's tent]: Captain. Urgent news from the General. We're needed
at the front.
Mushu [from up in the tree]: Pack your bags Cri-Kee, we're movin'
out. [Cri-Kee high fives Mushu]
if anyone wants to check the rest of the script you can check out my
webpage at www.slip.net/~bjadams/mulan.html.
On Thu, 04 Feb 1999 06:07:37 GMT, Ad...@Merkley.com inquired:
>Speaking of editing, I just got done watching Mulan and I must admit that
>something else struck me as odd. I seem to remember Mushu saying a lot more
>as he and Cricket are impersonating the soldier. Is it just me, or did Mushu
>say a few lines as the Panda was climbing-up the tree? Just wondering. . .
>
>In article <19990202234353...@ng24.aol.com>,
> jiven...@aol.com (JivenMushu) wrote:
>> The soldier tries escaping Shan Yu and the big buff guy that invade his
>section
>> of the wall. He climbs a wooden ladder, which Shan and Co. break. I dunno
>if
>> that's what you're referring to.
>>
>> >Hmm. Perhaps you're right. I know they never *showed* anyone being killed,
>> >and I remember the scene you're referring to...it just seems like there was
>> >something between Shan-Yu burning the flag in the torch, and the scene where
>> >the invasion is reported to the emperor.
>> >
>> >Oh well...
>>
>>
>
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barry adams
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for mulan info: http://www.slip.net/~bjadams/mulan.html
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>I thought *something* was missing there and somewhere else in the movie, but
>I don't know. I didn't see mulan 15 times in the theatre like I did lion
>king, so I probably wouldn't catch anything missing.
>I felt like something was odd in that part, but who knows why.
>
>Esme
>
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>Mythos <.> wrote in message news:36b7c...@newsread.exodus.net...
>killed,
>>and I remember the scene you're referring to...it just seems like there was
>>something between Shan-Yu burning the flag in the torch, and the scene
>where
>>the invasion is reported to the emperor.
>>
>>Oh well...
>>
>>>that came close was the scene where Shan-Yu asked his men how many
>>>soldiers it takes to deliver the message and the one with the bow
>>>answered, "One" and raised his bow, and then the scene cut to black
>>>before he shot the arrow.
I dont know about that. But I always get a nagging feeling that TLK *was*edited
in a certain area. I think it was Timon trying to convince the others to stay
behind after Simba ran back to the Pride Lands. But I'm not sure....
Until Next Time,
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Jaime "Steward" chan
>
> --Charles Buchanan
I saw the movie again today and I heard the line this time. :) The first
time I saw it, it was pretty noisy, so it probably drowned out the line when it
came on. Sorry for the mixup :)
--
GI Trekker
>> if he'd like to stay for dinner, Grandma said if he'd like to stay forever,
>> but it was cut out. All you see is Mulan and Shang nodding at her
>> offscreen. Too bad, because it was a funny line...
Huh? My video tape clearly has Granny's line. Could it be your tape is
defective?>>
Okay, NOW I'm getting paranoid. Granny's line WAS there, but VERY faint. (They
wouldn't cut one of the best lines in the movie.) I also experienced some minor
audio problems elsewhere in the tape -- a sort of "skipping". Couple of times
when music was playing it sounded like it was coming from underwater or
something. Maybe a couple of us got defective tapes. Anybody else experience
what I just described? Please e-mail me. I don't want to go through the minor
hassle of exchanging this cassette if I'm likely to get something WORSE!
okbl...@usa.net
gitr...@aol.com (GI Trekker) wrote:
>
> Okay, NOW I'm getting paranoid. Granny's line WAS there, but VERY faint.
(They
> wouldn't cut one of the best lines in the movie.) I also experienced some
minor
> audio problems elsewhere in the tape -- a sort of "skipping". Couple of times
> when music was playing it sounded like it was coming from underwater or
> something. Maybe a couple of us got defective tapes. Anybody else experience
> what I just described? Please e-mail me. I don't want to go through the minor
> hassle of exchanging this cassette if I'm likely to get something WORSE!
The line is missing in my copy of the movie. It's really obvious because
Mulan and Shang look off-screen--but for no apparent reason. (June Foray's
line isn't there.)
I think there's another missing line at the end when the chickens follow the
dog into the House of the Ancestors. Like maybe George Takei yells "MULAN!"
or something. All I know is that the dog runs in, the chickens follow,
there's a beat, and both Mushu and Mulan look at the house like they heard
something or something.
Time to take it back, I think.
[ok]
barry adams
really short, quick and angrily. visually, we see mushu looking back
at the ancestor's house and perking his ears up. i can't recall what
mulan does.
barry adams
Robert Cook
>
> In article <19990205224531...@ng67.aol.com>,
> gitr...@aol.com (GI Trekker) wrote:
> >
> > Okay, NOW I'm getting paranoid. Granny's line WAS there, but VERY faint.
> (They
> > wouldn't cut one of the best lines in the movie.) I also experienced some
> minor
> > audio problems elsewhere in the tape -- a sort of "skipping". Couple of times
> > when music was playing it sounded like it was coming from underwater or
> > something. Maybe a couple of us got defective tapes. Anybody else experience
> > what I just described? Please e-mail me. I don't want to go through the minor
> > hassle of exchanging this cassette if I'm likely to get something WORSE!
It was a while back, but my first BatB tape had audio problems. There
were some dropouts and faintness, and sometimes the right-side audio
channel was missing. I exchanged it and my second copy had a slightly
inferior picture (not much) but perfect sound, so I kept it. My Mulan
video has pretty poor video, but perfect audio.
> The line is missing in my copy of the movie. It's really obvious because
> Mulan and Shang look off-screen--but for no apparent reason. (June Foray's
> line isn't there.)
This sounds similar to the problem I described above--missing audio on
one of the two channels. Granny's voice in this scene was almost
entirely on the right side, but you should be able to hear some reverb
on the left channel if you listen very carefully.
> Time to take it back, I think.
Probably, since not all copies have this problem. Good luck!
- Robert Cook
okbl...@usa.net
bja...@slip.net (barry adams) wrote:
> i believe at the end of the movie, first ancestor says, "mushu!"
> really short, quick and angrily. visually, we see mushu looking back
> at the ancestor's house and perking his ears up. i can't recall what
> mulan does.
>
Yep. I ran it with my TV set to show captions and there it was.
okbl...@usa.net
rbr...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> This sounds similar to the problem I described above--missing audio on
> one of the two channels. Granny's voice in this scene was almost
> entirely on the right side, but you should be able to hear some reverb
> on the left channel if you listen very carefully.
>
Good point. Haven't been able to hear it on the left but I ran it with the
captions on to make sure it hadn't been deliberately edited.
> > Time to take it back, I think.
>
> Probably, since not all copies have this problem. Good luck!
>
Anybody know if DVD copies are less prone to these kinds of diffulties? (I
would assume so since if I understand the process, it's much simpler.)
Robert Cook
>
> In article <36C180...@hotmail.com>,
> rbr...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >
> > This sounds similar to the problem I described above--missing audio on
> > one of the two channels. Granny's voice in this scene was almost
> > entirely on the right side, but you should be able to hear some reverb
> > on the left channel if you listen very carefully.
>
> Good point. Haven't been able to hear it on the left but I ran it with the
> captions on to make sure it hadn't been deliberately edited.
I just tried turning on closed captioning while playing my Mulan video
and can you guess what happened? My tape apparently doesn't have it!
I checked some of my other videos to see if they have it or if
something's wrong with my TV, and all of them except for Hercules have
it. I give up! :-)
> Anybody know if DVD copies are less prone to these kinds of diffulties? (I
> would assume so since if I understand the process, it's much simpler.)
You can make a bad DVD just as surely as a bad VHS tape. It's up to
the manufacturer and how they master, compress, and press the DVD's.
Fortunately, most DVD's are pretty good nowadays, as studios seem to
realize that people who buy DVD's will be pickier.
- Robert Cook
MPa5698994
Good, maybe it'll make them realize the important aspects of something called
"Quality Control" :-)
>- Robert Cook
okbl...@usa.net
rbr...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> I just tried turning on closed captioning while playing my Mulan video
> and can you guess what happened? My tape apparently doesn't have it!
> I checked some of my other videos to see if they have it or if
> something's wrong with my TV, and all of them except for Hercules have
> it. I give up! :-)
Weird. I suppose when you're dealing with the sorts of volumes Disney does,
you're prone various weirdnesses.
> You can make a bad DVD just as surely as a bad VHS tape. It's up to
> the manufacturer and how they master, compress, and press the DVD's.
> Fortunately, most DVD's are pretty good nowadays, as studios seem to
> realize that people who buy DVD's will be pickier.
The cynic in me suggests that this makes a convenient "club" to motivate
people to "upgrade".