Some X-men thoughts
e elizabeth bartley
dmc...@durras.anu.edu.au (David M Clarke) writes:
> Also, does anyone think that maggie would of turned of the transfer device
>after he got back his power AND NONE OF LORNA DANES.
> Thus he has just jumped SEVERAL notches up the Power rankings. I mean
> Polaris
>was potent by herself, her power and magnetos is way up there.
I don't think so. Even if Magneto absorbed all of Polaris's power
from Zaladane, relative to Magneto's raw power, Polaris's isn't enough
to make *that* much difference. (I know, Zaladane was really tough
compared to Magneto in X-Men 274 -- I attribute that to a temporary and
silly power-down of Magneto and look farther back to what the two were
capable of earlier.) Magneto may get a little tougher, but he's tough
enough already that it won't make much difference.
- E. Elizabeth Bartley (ee...@quads.uchicago.edu)
Ted Ying
strong as Magneto's power. I just find that Magneto has far more
experience in using his power and knows how to use it to its full
advantage. Polaris had a LOT of raw power, but never the experience
or training to use it to its full advantage.
The main reason that Zaladane was stronger than Magneto was that
she had tied herself to the main magnetic lines of the Earth through
those strange towers that she had created. She was tapping the
magnetic field of the Earth and thus was much stronger than Magneto
was using only his own powers.
I think that the additional power will make a difference. Remember
way back when, when Magneto was REALLY powerful? This was during
the Claremont/Byrne run on X-Men. Then the magnetic field of the
Earth changed (he had something to do with it to, but I can't
remember that now) and he became a much weaker foe. I think Marvel
realized that they had made him SO powerful that they had to do
something to weaken him. However, with Lorna's power, this may have
been reversed...especially since Zaladane had attuned herself to
the Earth's magnetic field somehow. Seems to me that if Magnus
inherited this attunement, then we may be looking at Magneto back to
the height of his powers...at least he seems a bit more moral now.
(oooohhhh...I think I'm gonna get flamed for that one...)
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Wasn't Lorna Dane told that Zanadane had to be her sister because that
was the only way she would be able to absorb Lorna's powers? I think that
MacTaggart said this to her once. So, Magneto couldn't have absorbed Lorna's
powers. But, then again, Zana absorbed Magneto's powers. Could it be that
the three are actually related somehow? Just a thought.
Matt Somers
D. Patrick McClue
At one time, Polaris was told that she was Magneto's daughter, but that
was found to be false. They could retcon that and say that she is.
Another idea is that maybe Moira doesn't know what she is talking about.
I wish they'd give Lorna back her magnetism. I don't like her the
way she is now.
now for some questions:
Is Zaladane one of Magneto's Mutates?
How could Zaladane claim to be sisters just on a name? I allways thought
Lorna's last name was Dane because that was the name of her adopted parents.
I think that it was just a coincidence that they both had dane in their name
and Clairmont is taking advantage of it. I don't think that I could ever
call her Lornadane.
I guess we'll never know now that Zaladane is dead (for now).
patrick
cb...@gsbacd.uchicago.edu
> In article <97...@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> some...@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Matthew Somers) writes:
>>
>> Wasn't Lorna Dane told that Zanadane had to be her sister because that
>>was the only way she would be able to absorb Lorna's powers? I think that
>>MacTaggart said this to her once. So, Magneto couldn't have absorbed Lorna's
>>powers. But, then again, Zana absorbed Magneto's powers. Could it be that
>>the three are actually related somehow? Just a thought.
>>
>> Matt Somers
>
> At one time, Polaris was told that she was Magneto's daughter, but that
> was found to be false. They could retcon that and say that she is.
This is definitlely true. But i don't think there was CONCLUSIVE evidence that
they are not related at all, just no evidence to prove they were. I think it
would be cool to find out that they are related, if not by the father/daughter
realtionship. Maggs could try and help her regain her power, or maybe even
trnasfer it back to her if he did indeed absorb it from Zaladane (fat chance,
right? :) ).
>
> Another idea is that maybe Moira doesn't know what she is talking about.
>
> I wish they'd give Lorna back her magnetism. I don't like her the
> way she is now.
>
Me too (although i haven't really seen much of her now). What exactly are her
powers now??? And why did Rogue refer to her as a "bad guy" in that Rogue
goes to Muir isle issue (or was it Carol
Danvers-split from Rogue who said that?)
> now for some questions:
>
> Is Zaladane one of Magneto's Mutates?
> How could Zaladane claim to be sisters just on a name? I allways thought
> Lorna's last name was Dane because that was the name of her adopted parents.
> I think that it was just a coincidence that they both had dane in their name
> and Clairmont is taking advantage of it. I don't think that I could ever
> call her Lornadane.
>
> I guess we'll never know now that Zaladane is dead (for now).
They never DID show her body!!!!
She was pretty cool acutally; kind of like a younger Joan Collins mutant
villain with a better body. It was kind of weird though, when the stones were
falling on her and she didn't know how to use her powers to stop it. Yet,
she earlier had told the Russian guy that she thought she was a match for
all the forces the UN could throw at her!!!!!! One of those things that
make you go HMMMMMMMMM>..........
>
> patrick
Gary
Pinkdex - TNG
Just a reminder, net.kids, make sure "X-Men" or "Mutants" appear in
the subject line when writing on X-Men/Mutant topics, okay? There's a
lot of netters who set up kill files for this sort of thing, and we'll
have a happier discussion group all around if people can manage their
reading more efficiently...
On to the topic at hand...
There should be a term for superbeings losing control over
their reasoning abilities and emotions when their power gets boosted.
"Power Intoxication"? Note Magneto's earlier mention that the power
was driving her, not the other way around, and his need to tread very
carefully this close to the South Magnetic Pole. I think Zaladane
*was* overstating her mastery; like a drunk who insists they can drive
very well, thank you for asking. I don't think Magneto was lying when
he stated her actions would have profound implications for the health
of the Earth.
The most prominent earlier example of Power Intoxication
Syndrome would be Dark Phoenix...
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[I wrote:]
>> I wish they'd give Lorna back her magnetism. I don't like her the
>> way she is now.
>>
>Me too (although i haven't really seen much of her now). What exactly are her
>powers now??? And why did Rogue refer to her as a "bad guy" in that Rogue
>goes to Muir isle issue (or was it Carol
>Danvers-split from Rogue who said that?)
Right now Lorna is absorbing some kind of energy that is giving her invulibility, strength, and some sort of jinx power (things go "wrong" when she is around)
oh, she has grown a couple of inches due to her absorbing this energy ( I think
that she is absorbing magnetic energy and using it a different way. I still
hate it though).
As for why Rogue/Carol/whoever called Polaris a "bad guy" (I know Nightcrawler's ex girlfriend Amanda called her a "bad guy") its because when she was last
seen by the X-Men, she was being controlled by the Maurader, Malice.
>> now for some questions:
>>
>> Is Zaladane one of Magneto's Mutates?
>> How could Zaladane claim to be sisters just on a name? I allways thought
>> Lorna's last name was Dane because that was the name of her adopted parents.
>> I think that it was just a coincidence that they both had dane in their name
>> and Clairmont is taking advantage of it. I don't think that I could ever
>> call her Lornadane.
>>
>> I guess we'll never know now that Zaladane is dead (for now).
>They never DID show her body!!!!
How could I forget the basic rule of comics!! Nobody is dead unless there
is a body, and even then, that is not all ways true (especially Marvel).
:-) Thanks Gary!
>Gary
Patrick
Kevin M. Moore
>In article <1991Apr7...@gsbacd.uchicago.edu> cb...@gsbacd.uchicago.edu writes:
>[I wrote:]
>
>>powers now??? And why did Rogue refer to her as a "bad guy" in that Rogue
>oh, she has grown a couple of inches due to her absorbing this energy ( I think
>that she is absorbing magnetic energy and using it a different way. I still
>hate it though).
>
gain the powers of enhanced strength, invunerability, and size, at the
cost of "leeching" the life-force and sanity of those around her.
A similar concept was used in the original version of Longshot. In his
case, his luck power was a focus of ALL the luck of all the people in a
surrounding area. This resulted in his being a 'luck sponge' and his
comrades became proportionately UN-lucky.
Lorna's new superhero name was supposed to have been "Synergy." In the
marvel bullpen, synergy is a combination of energy and sin. Lorna's
leeching is a "sin," and her energy manifests as three of the MOST
boring, overused powers in the Marvel Universe.
*Yawn*
Kevin M. Moore
Doctor Stomper
>>In article <40...@netnews.upenn.edu>, mcc...@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (D. Patrick McClue) writes:
>>> I guess we'll never know now that Zaladane is dead (for now).
>>They never DID show her body!!!!
Look again, amigo; in the panel where Magneto reconstructs his costume
from the surrounding materials (neatness, eh?), one can see a distinctly
female, distinctly dead corpse in shadow at Magnus' feet. Offhand, I say this
counts as "showing the body"...
>>She was pretty cool acutally; kind of like a younger Joan Collins mutant
>>villain with a better body. It was kind of weird though, when the stones were
>>falling on her and she didn't know how to use her powers to stop it. Yet,
>>she earlier had told the Russian guy that she thought she was a match for
>>all the forces the UN could throw at her!!!!!! One of those things that
>>make you go HMMMMMMMMM>..........
Not really. Magnetic powers are great against modern (highly ferrous)
military hardware, but fairly lousy against falling boulders...
>
> There should be a term for superbeings losing control over
> their reasoning abilities and emotions when their power gets boosted.
> "Power Intoxication"? Note Magneto's earlier mention that the power
> was driving her, not the other way around, and his need to tread very
> carefully this close to the South Magnetic Pole. I think Zaladane
> *was* overstating her mastery; like a drunk who insists they can drive
> very well, thank you for asking. I don't think Magneto was lying when
> he stated her actions would have profound implications for the health
> of the Earth.
>
> The most prominent earlier example of Power Intoxication
> Syndrome would be Dark Phoenix...
>
Heck, the psychology of superpowers in general has been ignored by most
writers, the only exceptions I'm aware of being Miracleman and (to some extent)
Elementals. I could do a nice long post about my theories of the proper
effects of supernormal powers/abilities on human psychology, but I'm sure that
my asbestos underwear would not survive... :)
>
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>> cb...@gsbacd.uchicago.edu writes:
>>>In article <40...@netnews.upenn.edu>, mcc...@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (D. Patrick McClue) writes:
>>>> I guess we'll never know now that Zaladane is dead (for now).
>>>They never DID show her body!!!!
>
> Look again, amigo; in the panel where Magneto reconstructs his costume
>from the surrounding materials (neatness, eh?), one can see a distinctly
>female, distinctly dead corpse in shadow at Magnus' feet. Offhand, I say this
>counts as "showing the body"...
was dead? The corpse was not 'distinctly' dead or any of the sort...it
can easily be interpreted either way...Magneto never killed for fun...always
out of necessity and it didn't seem like that was needed since his power
was reabsorbed and Zaladane's forces routed. How can you say he killed
her anyway? A scream? He may have just caused her some sort of pain
when tearing away the fabric off her body and reconstructing it on himself.
His speech after and during this event didn't make it clear either...
and remember...this IS Marvel so if such an occasion ever arises that
she may be needed, she will be brought back...
>
>>>She was pretty cool acutally; kind of like a younger Joan Collins mutant
>>>villain with a better body. It was kind of weird though, when the stones were
>>>falling on her and she didn't know how to use her powers to stop it. Yet,
>>>she earlier had told the Russian guy that she thought she was a match for
>>>all the forces the UN could throw at her!!!!!! One of those things that
>>>make you go HMMMMMMMMM>..........
>
> Not really. Magnetic powers are great against modern (highly ferrous)
>military hardware, but fairly lousy against falling boulders...
is enough of it, can make a difference and since Zala had both Lorna
AND Maggie's powers...that's pretty significant there...Anyway, if it
doesn't make that much of a difference, how do you explain how Magneto
remade his clothing? The whole thing doesn't appear to be metal and
there HAS to be some fabric somewhere (with little bits of metal of
course)...and if he reformed his cape(I don't remember), how would you
explain how his powers affected something "highly ferrous"..cause a cape
isn't since it's kinda hard to walk around with a steel cape clanking
around wouldn't ya say?
Really, give that issue of the X-men a lookover again and think about
it...it might actually make some sense...you never know :)
Nova
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Was it ever inferred/implied/comeoutandsaid where Lorna's power's come from??
She seemed Rogue-like for awhile, what with the extra height, invulnerability,
super strength?? All she needs to do is absorb people and she's set!!
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>
> Was it ever inferred/implied/comeoutandsaid where Lorna's power's come from??
> She seemed Rogue-like for awhile, what with the extra height, invulnerability,
> super strength?? All she needs to do is absorb people and she's set!!
>
the powers that Lorna now has????? Also, was this process ever explained (i.e.
who built the device and how does it work, magic, etc). and in what issues?
It seems werid that a machine could take Lorna's powers away. It must have
altered every cell in her body since the mutation would be in all of her cells.
However, it would then have to change Zala's cells to match.
In fact, come to think of it, I don't like the way there are all these power
dampers in the marvel universe. If mutant powers are related to the
individual's DNA (which I think is a fair assumption), then how can a Leech or
a Wipeout just negate these effects????? Any comments y'all???
Gary
Jonathan Burns
In article <40...@netnews.upenn.edu> mcc...@eniac.seas.upenn.edu
(D. Patrick McClue) writes:
> Is Zaladane one of Magneto's Mutates?
On the explicit reading, no. She was a priestess of the local Sun God,
back in '70 when Ka-Zar had a series in Astonishing Tales.
But it's an intriguing notion. Especially since Lorna's origins are
still so obscure.
The first appearances of Zal and of the Savage Land mutates were about
the same time, and a couple of years our time after Lorna's empowering.
> How could Zaladane claim to be sisters just on a name? I allways thought
> Lorna's last name was Dane because that was the name of her adopted parents.
> I think that it was just a coincidence that they both had dane in their name
> and Clairmont is taking advantage of it. I don't think that I could ever
> call her Lornadane.
It's perfectly possible that the Dane sisters are an early experiment,
which did not result in any powers at the time. Later they wander off,
Zal takes up priestessing, while Lorna somehow leaves the Savage Land.
What adds to the credibility is that when Magneto later hunts Lorna down
in the states, he employs Mesmero, who could have overlaid Lorna's
memory.
> I guess we'll never know now that Zaladane is dead (for now).
For now. I know what I'd do if I were Brainchild, as soon as the white
hats were out the door (necrophilia aside). She's probably not even
braindead.
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>In fact, come to think of it, I don't like the way there are all these power
>dampers in the marvel universe. If mutant powers are related to the
>individual's DNA (which I think is a fair assumption), then how can a Leech or
>a Wipeout just negate these effects????? Any comments y'all???
Speaking in very general terms since it's all doubletalk anyway, I'd
guess that there's some kind of energy or force in a mutant's body which
gets channeled into powers such as telekinesis, energy blasts, etc....
A power damper can damp this energy without damping out any powers that
don't depend on it. (For instance, in X-Men #150 Magneto's power damper
did not cause Nightcrawler to lose the use of his tail, since although
his mutant genes caused him to grow the tail in the first place, once he
has it only normal physical processes (of a type present even in non-
mutants) are necessary for the tail to operate.)
One can conclude that, for instance, Lorna's hair would remain green under
a mutant power damper, Angel would keep his wings and still be able to
fly, etc....
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Patrick Ridey
>In fact, come to think of it, I don't like the way there are all these power
>dampers in the marvel universe. If mutant powers are related to the
>individual's DNA (which I think is a fair assumption), then how can a Leech or
>a Wipeout just negate these effects????? Any comments y'all???
>Gary
rather negates the effects these powers have. It may be that they
still have their powers, but that they won't do anything tangible.
Archangl
Mooch
>In article <1991Apr7...@gsbacd.uchicago.edu> cb...@gsbacd.uchicago.edu writes:
>>> I wish they'd give Lorna back her magnetism. I don't like her the
>>> way she is now.
>>>
>>Me too (although i haven't really seen much of her now). What exactly are her
>>powers now??? And why did Rogue refer to her as a "bad guy" in that Rogue
>>goes to Muir isle issue (or was it Carol Danvers-split from Rogue who said that?)
>Right now Lorna is absorbing some kind of energy that is giving her invulibility, strength, and some sort of jinx power (things go "wrong" when she is around)
>oh, she has grown a couple of inches due to her absorbing this energy ( I think
>that she is absorbing magnetic energy and using it a different way. I still
>hate it though).
I don't believe its a jinx typw thing I recall it more of a emotional effect
people got really pissed off at each other more and more easily when she was
present. I too would like her to get her powers back and get rid of the ones
she has now.
>As for why Rogue/Carol/whoever called Polaris a "bad guy" (I know Nightcrawler's ex girlfriend Amanda called her a "bad guy") its because when she was last
>seen by the X-Men, she was being controlled by the Maurader, Malice.
And last I saw she was being pulled about by Legion(the Jack part I believe)
My question is when are we going to see more of what is going on on Muir
Isle? Its been awhile since they've shown anything about there. Shortly
after one of those Mega-Mutant-Crossover stories, which all now seem like
a blur.
>How could I forget the basic rule of comics!! Nobody is dead unless there
>is a body, and even then, that is not all ways true (especially Marvel).
Dunno how could you have forgoten and remember that wasn't the real body
it was just a clone of the body or a hypnotized innocent look alike.
Remember the clone of Gwen Stacy? How about that "clone" of Spider-man who
was just some innocent who ended up getting dumped in a factory chimney?
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> In article <1991Apr8....@mac.cc.macalstr.edu> stn...@mac.cc.macalstr.edu (Doctor Stomper) writes:
>>> cb...@gsbacd.uchicago.edu writes:
>>>>In article <40...@netnews.upenn.edu>, mcc...@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (D. Patrick McClue) writes:
>>>>> I guess we'll never know now that Zaladane is dead (for now).
>>>>They never DID show her body!!!!
>>
>> Look again, amigo; in the panel where Magneto reconstructs his costume
>>from the surrounding materials (neatness, eh?), one can see a distinctly
>>female, distinctly dead corpse in shadow at Magnus' feet. Offhand, I say this
>>counts as "showing the body"...
> If a person laid unconscious at your feet, would you think that person
> was dead? The corpse was not 'distinctly' dead or any of the sort...it
> can easily be interpreted either way...Magneto never killed for fun...always
> out of necessity and it didn't seem like that was needed since his power
> was reabsorbed and Zaladane's forces routed. How can you say he killed
> her anyway? A scream? He may have just caused her some sort of pain
> when tearing away the fabric off her body and reconstructing it on himself.
> His speech after and during this event didn't make it clear either...
> and remember...this IS Marvel so if such an occasion ever arises that
> she may be needed, she will be brought back...
Again, reexamine the book; Magneto drained the powers off, then
eliminated Zaladane by first restraining her (with a whole s---load of
machinery that was laying around), then crushing/piercing her (with the same
stuff, some of it having really nasty edges and points). It's a little
shadowy, but it IS there...
>>
>>>>She was pretty cool acutally; kind of like a younger Joan Collins mutant
>>>>villain with a better body. It was kind of weird though, when the stones were
>>>>falling on her and she didn't know how to use her powers to stop it. Yet,
>>>>she earlier had told the Russian guy that she thought she was a match for
>>>>all the forces the UN could throw at her!!!!!! One of those things that
>>>>make you go HMMMMMMMMM>..........
>>
>> Not really. Magnetic powers are great against modern (highly ferrous)
>>military hardware, but fairly lousy against falling boulders...
> There are trace metals in a lot of things...magnetic powers, when there
> is enough of it, can make a difference and since Zala had both Lorna
> AND Maggie's powers...that's pretty significant there...Anyway, if it
> doesn't make that much of a difference, how do you explain how Magneto
> remade his clothing? The whole thing doesn't appear to be metal and
> there HAS to be some fabric somewhere (with little bits of metal of
> course)...and if he reformed his cape(I don't remember), how would you
> explain how his powers affected something "highly ferrous"..cause a cape
> isn't since it's kinda hard to walk around with a steel cape clanking
> around wouldn't ya say?
Magneto reconstructed it from the metal lying around (probably the
stuff he killed Zaladane with). The outfit, to my knowledge, is VERY fine
chainmail, on the level of the mesh used by some divers when dealing with
sharks. He probably uses his powers to (subconciously) keep it out of the way,
except when some bright boy uses it as a weapon (over his eyes, for example).
And the boulders could have been a matter of surprise. Magnus probably
was feeling a little out of it, and the surprise may have kept him from
mustering the fine control neccesary. Magneto needs a certain amount of iron
or whatever in objects to affect them that way, otherwise he'd do nasty things
to people with even greater ease than usual...
>
> Really, give that issue of the X-men a lookover again and think about
> it...it might actually make some sense...you never know :)
I suggest you do so yourself, it made perfect sense to me...
>
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In one of the issues of X-men around the Fall of the Mutants, Forge restored
Storm's powers. He said that the neutralizer he had used to take away her
powers (issue 188-ish, I think) just erased some RNA links or some such
which allowed her to access her powers. She still had her powers, she just
could not access them consciously. She could access them sub-consciously,
since nasty weather often appeared around her when she was really angry
(#211 or 212 - Mutant Massacre with fight between Storm and Callisto,
possibly issues during the Fall when she was in Forge's tower). Forge
built a gun to restore those links and return her powers. The mutant
damping people may release a field which has a similar effect, restricting
access to the RNA links to the powers.
Another possibility which my brother and I discussed involved the
mitochondria. I think it is the mitochondria which generate most of the
cell energy in our bodies. Mutant abilities require energy, so perhaps
mutant mitochondria generate more energy, which powers their powers.
Then a mutant damper would restrict the mitochondria to generating normal
(human) levels of energy. No extra energy, no mutant power. A sufficiently
strong mutant damper could even kill a person by allowing no energy output
from the cells at all.
On a different note, if Callisto is a mutant, what is her power? I
remember references to her power and its strength (some issue on Muir
Isle where Dazzler leaves and fights Juggernaut - 217, I think), but it
has never been clear to me what exactly her power is.
Patrick Lim
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Theo O'Neal
>On a different note, if Callisto is a mutant, what is her power? I
>remember references to her power and its strength (some issue on Muir
>Isle where Dazzler leaves and fights Juggernaut - 217, I think), but it
>has never been clear to me what exactly her power is.
>Patrick Lim
>l...@udel.edu
Callisto's set of mutant powers is like Wolverine's hunting senses.
Her senses are enhanced way past human normal: better eyesight, better sense,
of smell and the like. Not the mostest flashiest, considering some of the
muties out there, but Hell, I'd take it...
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cb...@gsbacd.uchicago.edu
> In one of the issues of X-men around the Fall of the Mutants, Forge restored
> Storm's powers. He said that the neutralizer he had used to take away her
> powers (issue 188-ish, I think) just erased some RNA links or some such
> which allowed her to access her powers. She still had her powers, she just
> could not access them consciously. She could access them sub-consciously,
> since nasty weather often appeared around her when she was really angry
> (#211 or 212 - Mutant Massacre with fight between Storm and Callisto,
> possibly issues during the Fall when she was in Forge's tower). Forge
> built a gun to restore those links and return her powers. The mutant
> damping people may release a field which has a similar effect, restricting
> access to the RNA links to the powers.
restoration too. I really HATED the way Wipeout negated everyone's powers so
permanetntly (so he thought) but i guess this would explain it.
[side note: Jean noticed Wipeout and said she better take him out quickly.
Yet wiht all those mutants there, indlucing herself, Cyclops, etc. noone was
able deck him. I mean taht should have been one of their main priorities!!!
He is an example though of a mutant who's powers did not give him a perfect
body as was suggested in the Kitty Pride Breast Enlargement power thread :)
]
Now, can you explain how the Genegeneer allowed storm to get power back as well
as restore herself by TOUCHING cyclops, and then resoter everyhone's els'es
power?? that's a tough one. >
>
> On a different note, if Callisto is a mutant, what is her power? I
> remember references to her power and its strength (some issue on Muir
> Isle where Dazzler leaves and fights Juggernaut - 217, I think), but it
> has never been clear to me what exactly her power is.
>
I beleive i read in TOHOTMUD that her powers are enhanced agility, senses,
speed, etc...... Has she lost her powers though? In the Issue where she and
Colossus are running in the tunnels she says something like "Time was i could
see better with one eye than most people can with two" implying she has lost
her powers. Also, I didn't understand her comments about her "reversion"
lasting shorter and shorter....>
Melinda J. Klump
perhaps when Masque changed her looks, his powers affected her senses
since he resored an eye, etc. It depends on how extensive his plastic
surgery powers are.
michael j pastor iii
guest on melinda's account
david a. tumarkin
> > cb...@gsbacd.uchicago.edu writes:
> >>In article <40...@netnews.upenn.edu>, mcc...@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (D. Patri
> >>> I guess we'll never know now that Zaladane is dead (for now).
> >>They never DID show her body!!!!
>
> Look again, amigo; in the panel where Magneto reconstructs his costume
> from the surrounding materials (neatness, eh?), one can see a distinctly
> female, distinctly dead corpse in shadow at Magnus' feet. Offhand, I say thi
> counts as "showing the body"...
I would have also considered it in pretty poor taste to show a naked,
bleeding, multiply-transfixed, eyes-glazed-over-in-horror villianess
in it. Sure as hell would've boosted sales though.
=-)
- Sasha
david a. tumarkin
>
> Was it ever inferred/implied/comeoutandsaid where Lorna's power's come from??
> She seemed Rogue-like for awhile, what with the extra height, invulnerability
> super strength?? All she needs to do is absorb people and she's set!!
From what I understand, she can absorb negative emotions. Apparently, she
can cause them too (the fights that broke out on the ship).
- Sasha
Jason Graff
>Now, can you explain how the Genegeneer allowed storm to get power back as well
>as restore herself by TOUCHING cyclops, and then resoter everyhone's els'es
>power?? that's a tough one. >
zap one of her teammates when touched... psylocke lifted her into
a duct a few pages before...doesn't she count???
>her powers. Also, I didn't understand her comments about her "reversion"
>lasting shorter and shorter....>
the "reversion" was her original self and the beauty Masque turned
her into... the new self was starting to take hold over the old one..
don't know what that did powerwise tho..
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