The Galaxy's Greatest (2000 AD)
Michael D Toth
Yow! I'm always up for discussion about 2000 AD. In the past year or so,
I've made a couple of postings, and only one person has been e-mailing me
regularly on the subject (Hi, Grant!!! :-) ).
For anyone who is tired of most of the drivel that's being cranked out over
here, or holds any of these caliber of people in high regard (Alan Moore,
Grant Morrison, John Wagner, Alan Grant, Pete Milligan, Brian Bolland, Kevin
O'Neil, Dave Gibbons, Ian Gibson, John Higgins), you've only seen the tip of
the iceberg of the type of talent that has been brewing over there in the
British Isles.
Some creators whose work _I'm_ very impressed with right now:
Mark Millar: I'm still trying to track down a copy of SAVIOR for Trident
Comics; his six-part "Silo" serial in 2000 AD Progs 706-711 was one of the
best-paced, gripping tales I've read in a comic in years; The progs with his
new RoboHunter haven't made it to the States yet, but, with my fondness for
Sam Slade, I can barely sleep at night knowing he's working on it :-).
Dave d'Antiquis: If anyone knows the correct pronunciation on this, let me
know; in the same stark stylistic school as Steve "Zenith" Yeowell, his work
on the aforementioned "Silo" and the serial "Brigand Doom" is chilling and
enthralling. After a few so-so "Future Shock" pages in the past year, Dave
has developed a really distinctive, individual style that takes Sequential Art
to new heights. And there's a back-cover pin-up of Anderson that he did
somewhere in the 670's that makes me REALLY want to see him try a color story
for 2000 AD. Incredible stuff.
Will Simpson: He's come a LONG way from his Neal Adams clone work in WARRIOR.
I find his sense of color more appealing than anything I've ever seen in
comics. Extremely effective at creating mood and atmosphere. Textural and
evocative...
Garth Ennis: Although I still haven't read anything as superb as his first
work (TROUBLED SOULS -- _buy_ the trade paperback!), he shows a lot of
promise. Gads, I mean, this guy did TROUBLED SOULS when he was 18. His
career has just begun and who knows how his work will mature. I just hope he
doesn't fall into Orson Welles Syndrome (do your best work (Citizen Kane)
first and never quite match it again, get an inflated ego anyway and die fat
and hated by everyone...)
So who do you folks think are THE creators to watch, the next Alan Moore or
Brian Bolland that will take the US by storm?
Michael David Toth
mt...@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Grant Mason
|>
|> Yow! I'm always up for discussion about 2000 AD. In the past year or so,
|> I've made a couple of postings, and only one person has been e-mailing me
|> regularly on the subject (Hi, Grant!!! :-) ).
Hi there Michael and all fellow lovers of 2000ad on r.a.c ! Just a few further points I'd like to throw in following Michael's thread ...
|> For anyone who is tired of most of the drivel that's being cranked out over
|> here, or holds any of these caliber of people in high regard (Alan Moore,
|> Grant Morrison, John Wagner, Alan Grant, Pete Milligan, Brian Bolland, Kevin
|> O'Neil, Dave Gibbons, Ian Gibson, John Higgins), you've only seen the tip of
|> the iceberg of the type of talent that has been brewing over there in the
|> British Isles.
You have indeed - I'd also urge them to check out the 'companion set' to 2000ad from
those lovely Fleetway/ex-Fleetway people : namely 'Crisis' (monthly) Revolver (R.I.P - was monthly) and the new Mills/O'Neill weekly, 'Toxic'. They may not *all* be to your tastes, but they're great showcases for the newcomers/European reprints/old masters....
|> Some creators whose work _I'm_ very impressed with right now:
|>
|> Mark Millar: I'm still trying to track down a copy of SAVIOR for Trident
|> Comics; his six-part "Silo" serial in 2000 AD Progs 706-711 was one of the
|> best-paced, gripping tales I've read in a comic in years; The progs with his
|> new RoboHunter haven't made it to the States yet, but, with my fondness for
|> Sam Slade, I can barely sleep at night knowing he's working on it :-).
For those in the UK who haven't heard of SAVIOUR, it's now on issue 6 and well worth
searching for. The Saviour has returned to Earth, but he's really the antichrist and
looks remarkably like Jonathan Ross. Christ has really returned, but is a scruffy,
low-life nobody, and everyone's been taken in by Saviour's superhero miracles ...
Dark, brooding and menacing ... and excellent !
|> Dave d'Antiquis: If anyone knows the correct pronunciation on this, let me
|> know; in the same stark stylistic school as Steve "Zenith" Yeowell, his work
|> on the aforementioned "Silo" and the serial "Brigand Doom" is chilling and
|> enthralling. After a few so-so "Future Shock" pages in the past year, Dave
|> has developed a really distinctive, individual style that takes Sequential Art
|> to new heights. And there's a back-cover pin-up of Anderson that he did
|> somewhere in the 670's that makes me REALLY want to see him try a color story
|> for 2000 AD. Incredible stuff.
|>
|> Will Simpson: He's come a LONG way from his Neal Adams clone work in WARRIOR.
|> I find his sense of color more appealing than anything I've ever seen in
|> comics. Extremely effective at creating mood and atmosphere. Textural and
|> evocative...
|>
|> Garth Ennis: Although I still haven't read anything as superb as his first
|> work (TROUBLED SOULS -- _buy_ the trade paperback!), he shows a lot of
|> promise. Gads, I mean, this guy did TROUBLED SOULS when he was 18. His
|> career has just begun and who knows how his work will mature. I just hope he
|> doesn't fall into Orson Welles Syndrome (do your best work (Citizen Kane)
|> first and never quite match it again, get an inflated ego anyway and die fat
|> and hated by everyone...)
He didn't fade, he's just turned to humour more for the time being .... 'Troubled Souls' originally appeared in the aforementioned 'Crisis', as did its successor,
'For A Few Troubles More', which took a few background characters and made an absolutely hilarious tale about life in Ireland : potcheen, relationships and
marriage. Coming sometime in the future is the next follow-on, where the comedy duo
become private-eyes, 'Dicks'.
And don't forget Garth's co-worker and artist extraordinaire, John Macrea ...
Simon Bisley - forget that horrible work on 'Lobo' and check out his extraordinary painted work on Pat Mills' 'Slaine - The Horned God' in past 2000ad's and in the 3
graphic novels ....
Colin McNeill - some lovely artwork from the boy from Perth, Scotland. Browse over 'Chopper - The Song Of The Surfer', or the final colour parts of 'Strontium Dog' to see what I maen here. Bright, colourful and individual.
I haven't got the time to think of any more just now, but it looks like we're getting a good discussion started at last .....
Over to you, anonymous fans of 2000ad ..... get posting and let's see how you feel.
(I know that arf (Andrew R Farmer) used to reply to my postings ... c'mon arf - we're
on a roll here !!)
|> So who do you folks think are THE creators to watch, the next Alan Moore or
|> Brian Bolland that will take the US by storm?
Oh - it's really hard to say, but I think that Mark Millar will do for starters.
I love his current work in 'Crisis' on the story of life in a mythical Scottish jail.
Thought-provoking and shocking, sad and gripping - the man can turn his hand to a lot of things all ready, so I can see DC snapping him up soon. Just so long as he doesn't have to take on a defunct super-hero and revive him/her. I'd much rather see his won stuff ...
|> Michael David Toth
|> mt...@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Grant Mason
gr...@cstr.ed.ac.uk
A. Moore
>Yow! I'm always up for discussion about 2000 AD. In the past year or so,
>I've made a couple of postings, and only one person has been e-mailing me
>regularly on the subject (Hi, Grant!!! :-) ).
>For anyone who is tired of most of the drivel that's being cranked out over
>here, or holds any of these caliber of people in high regard (Alan Moore,
>Grant Morrison, John Wagner, Alan Grant, Pete Milligan, Brian Bolland, Kevin
>O'Neil, Dave Gibbons, Ian Gibson, John Higgins), you've only seen the tip of
>the iceberg of the type of talent that has been brewing over there in the
>British Isles.
>Some creators whose work _I'm_ very impressed with right now:
>Mark Millar: I'm still trying to track down a copy of SAVIOR for Trident
>Comics; his six-part "Silo" serial in 2000 AD Progs 706-711 was one of the
>best-paced, gripping tales I've read in a comic in years; The progs with his
>new RoboHunter haven't made it to the States yet, but, with my fondness for
>Sam Slade, I can barely sleep at night knowing he's working on it :-).
Have you seen the story he's currently doing in "CRISIS" ? It's called
'Insiders' and deals with prison life. His Robo-Hunter also isn't bad ! I've
seen a few copies of SAVIOUR in my local comic shop and may be tempted one day.
>Dave d'Antiquis: If anyone knows the correct pronunciation on this, let me
>know; in the same stark stylistic school as Steve "Zenith" Yeowell, his work
>on the aforementioned "Silo" and the serial "Brigand Doom" is chilling and
>enthralling. After a few so-so "Future Shock" pages in the past year, Dave
>has developed a really distinctive, individual style that takes Sequential Art
>to new heights. And there's a back-cover pin-up of Anderson that he did
>somewhere in the 670's that makes me REALLY want to see him try a color story
>for 2000 AD. Incredible stuff.
>Will Simpson: He's come a LONG way from his Neal Adams clone work in WARRIOR.
> I find his sense of color more appealing than anything I've ever seen in
>comics. Extremely effective at creating mood and atmosphere. Textural and
>evocative...
Have you seen the new Brit weekly, TOXIC! ? If it lasts, Simpson will
illustrating a Pat Mills story - 'Sex Warrior'. They showed a teaser of the
artwork and his painting was as gorgeous as ever.
>Garth Ennis: Although I still haven't read anything as superb as his first
>work (TROUBLED SOULS -- _buy_ the trade paperback!), he shows a lot of
>promise. Gads, I mean, this guy did TROUBLED SOULS when he was 18. His
>career has just begun and who knows how his work will mature. I just hope he
>doesn't fall into Orson Welles Syndrome (do your best work (Citizen Kane)
>first and never quite match it again, get an inflated ego anyway and die fat
>and hated by everyone...)
Ah,'Troubled Souls'. I remember reading it when it was first being printed in
CRISIS. It's still probably the best thing they've ever done. I'm a bit worried
about him taking up "Hellbalzer" for DC. Is he up to it ? I think he's more
than demonstrated that Judge Dredd is right for him, though.
>So who do you folks think are THE creators to watch, the next Alan Moore or
>Brian Bolland that will take the US by storm?
Well, hopefully Ennis will come up trumps with Hellblazer, and go onto great
things. What about John Smith ? Wasn't long ago he was being hailed as the next
big thing (when New Statesmen was first printed).
Artwise - well, Duncan Fegredo will probably make it big with Kid Eternity.
Personally I think when the world at large gets to see Sean Phillips' painted
artwork, it'll knock their socks off.
>Michael David Toth
>mt...@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Tony Moore
Andrew Farmer
In rec.arts.comics, mt...@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael D Toth) writes:
> Some creators whose work _I'm_ very impressed with right now:
> Mark Millar: I'm still trying to track down a copy of SAVIOR for Trident
> Comics; his six-part "Silo" serial in 2000 AD Progs 706-711 was one of the
> best-paced, gripping tales I've read in a comic in years; The progs with his
> new RoboHunter haven't made it to the States yet, but, with my fondness for
> Sam Slade, I can barely sleep at night knowing he's working on it :-).
I agree about Mark Miller....but the new Sam Slade story isn't too
good. It's just fun knockabout stuff , not especially clever.
> Garth Ennis: Although I still haven't read anything as superb as his first
> work (TROUBLED SOULS -- _buy_ the trade paperback!), he shows a lot of
> promise. Gads, I mean, this guy did TROUBLED SOULS when he was 18. His
> career has just begun and who knows how his work will mature.
You know that Ennis is writing HELLBLAZER? OK....
The sequel to TROUBLED SOULS was excellent...very, very funny indeed.
A story that appeared in CRISIS at the same time was TRUE FAITH, which was
due to appear as a paperback earlier this year. Fleetway canned the paperback
after protests from extremist Christians....It had funny moments but was
a bit unlikely.
According to the latest CRISIS, Ennis is writing a third series based
on the Irish characters in TROUBLED SOULS and FOR A FEW TROUBLES MORE. That
should be good.
Ennis also appears to be the new boss Judge Dredd writer.....
Other British work I love include Jaime Hewlett's lame-brained
anarchy, Shaky Kane's pop surrealism, Phillip Bond's whimsy, Ed Hillyer's
spot-on vignettes and Nick Abadzis' gentle humour. Most of these creators
appear regularly in DEADLINE but also do sporadic work for Fleetway
magazines' CRISIS.
arf
Mitchell Squires
be expensively re-cloned or trained if everyone gets what Dredd gets Post-
Necropolis. Or is it against City statutes ? After all , stookie - gland runningis an offence.
Judge Puzzled.
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Michael D Toth Of 250/401
Yow! I'm always up for discussion about 2000 AD. In the past year or so,
I've made a couple of postings, and only one person has been e-mailing me
regularly on the subject (Hi, Grant!!! :-) ).
For anyone who is tired of most of the drivel that's being cranked out over
here, or holds any of these caliber of people in high regard (Alan Moore,
Grant Morrison, John Wagner, Alan Grant, Pete Milligan, Brian Bolland, Kevin
O'Neil, Dave Gibbons, Ian Gibson, John Higgins), you've only seen the tip of
the iceberg of the type of talent that has been brewing over there in the
British Isles.
Some creators whose work _I'm_ very impressed with right now:
Mark Millar: I'm still trying to track down a copy of SAVIOR for Trident
Comics; his six-part "Silo" serial in 2000 AD Progs 706-711 was one of the
best-paced, gripping tales I've read in a comic in years; The progs with his
new RoboHunter haven't made it to the States yet, but, with my fondness for
Sam Slade, I can barely sleep at night knowing he's working on it :-).
Dave d'Antiquis: If anyone knows the correct pronunciation on this, let me
know; in the same stark stylistic school as Steve "Zenith" Yeowell, his work
on the aforementioned "Silo" and the serial "Brigand Doom" is chilling and
enthralling. After a few so-so "Future Shock" pages in the past year, Dave
has developed a really distinctive, individual style that takes Sequential Art
to new heights. And there's a back-cover pin-up of Anderson that he did
somewhere in the 670's that makes me REALLY want to see him try a color story
for 2000 AD. Incredible stuff.
Will Simpson: He's come a LONG way from his Neal Adams clone work in WARRIOR.
I find his sense of color more appealing than anything I've ever seen in
comics. Extremely effective at creating mood and atmosphere. Textural and
evocative...
Garth Ennis: Although I still haven't read anything as superb as his first
work (TROUBLED SOULS -- _buy_ the trade paperback!), he shows a lot of
promise. Gads, I mean, this guy did TROUBLED SOULS when he was 18. His
career has just begun and who knows how his work will mature. I just hope he
doesn't fall into Orson Welles Syndrome (do your best work (Citizen Kane)
first and never quite match it again, get an inflated ego anyway and die fat
and hated by everyone...)
So who do you folks think are THE creators to watch, the next Alan Moore or
Brian Bolland that will take the US by storm?
Michael David Toth
mt...@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Tony Moore
>So how come all judges don't get re-juved? After all the Judges wouldn't have to
>be expensively re-cloned or trained if everyone gets what Dredd gets Post-
>Necropolis. Or is it against City statutes ? After all , stookie - gland runningis an offence.
> Judge Puzzled.
Yes, I wondered about this. I'm not sure whether Dredd was actually made
physically younger or just received some fancy plastic surgery. How are they
going to deal with the fact that Dredd is knocking on 60 ? That is one major
problem John Wagner has left Garth Ennis with. (he did something similar in
'Action' back in the 70's where he left the hero of a boxing story blind before
turning over the story to another writer)
Tony
Alan Jeffrey
>So how come all judges don't get re-juved?
Ah, but judges get soft as they get old, they start having strange
thoughts like `hey, shouldn't we be nice to the cits for a change',
and then you know, it's time for that long haul out into the Cursed
Earth. It's probably a side-effect of all that Happy Gas that Justice
Dept. is spraying into the atmosphere.
Rest assured citizen, Justice Dept. has your best interests at heart.
And if you still have any worries or fears, always remember we've got
psycho cubes for people like you.
Alan.
Alan Jeffrey Tel: +46 31 72 10 98 jef...@cs.chalmers.se
Department of Computer Sciences, Chalmers University, Gothenburg, Sweden
TO...@liverpool.ac.uk
(Tony Moore) says:
>ms@mcdd1 (Mitchell Squires) writes:
>>So how come all judges don't get re-juved? After all the Judges wouldn't have
>to
>>be expensively re-cloned or trained if everyone gets what Dredd gets Post-
>>Necropolis. Or is it against City statutes ? After all , stookie - gland
>runningis an offence.
>> Judge Puzzled.
>
> Yes, I wondered about this. I'm not sure whether Dredd was actually made
>physically younger or just received some fancy plastic surgery. How are they
> Tony
I thought that rejuvination was a pretty old trick in the mega-city-1 book.
Although (admittedly) I can't produce any referances to this effect, I'm fairly
certain that innumerable referances have been made to it before now.
As to why not all judges don't get rejuved. Well some die in harness ( so
to speak), some don't make the grade and end up on Titan, and more than just a
few take the long walk. Of those that are left, I imagine they are content to
die of old age.
TOAD.....................
ps. No critism of the man Garth, but I've got a nasty feeling that the
Dredd continuum is going to have trouble with a new full time writer. Grud
knows that just about every Anderson story I read nowadays could almost be set
in a differant universe.
Matthew Braun
In article <67195...@egsgate.FidoNet.Org>,
Michael.D.Toth.Of.250/4...@f98.n250.z0.FidoNet.Org (Michael D Toth Of
250/401) writes:
|>
|> Yow! I'm always up for discussion about 2000 AD.
|> For anyone who is tired of most of the drivel that's being cranked out over
|> here, or holds any of these caliber of people in high regard (Alan Moore,
|> Grant Morrison, John Wagner, Alan Grant, Pete Milligan, Brian Bolland, Kevin
|> O'Neil, Dave Gibbons, Ian Gibson, John Higgins), you've only seen the tip of
|> the iceberg of the type of talent that has been brewing over there in the
|> British Isles.
Absolutely! This is one of the reasons that I've followed this comic (only
found out about it about 6 years ago, I'm afraid. :-) ). You want to see
tomorrow's talent today? Pick up 2000 A.D. (How could you omit Simon Bisley
from the above list? :-) I found his rendition of the A.B.C. Warriors work
one of the high points of the magazine for quite a while there.) Also
appearing 2000 A.D. have been artists John Hickleton and SMS (whose work
appears in the latest issue of Hellraiser). Then, don't forget Mick Austin,
Garry Leach, Steve Dillon, Colin MacNeil, John Ridgeway (okay, so he's an old
hand) and ***Brendan McCarthy***.
Then, there's the following crowd:
|> Mark Millar: I'm still trying to track down a copy of SAVIOR for Trident
|> Comics; his six-part "Silo" serial in 2000 AD Progs 706-711 was one of the
|>best-paced, gripping tales I've read in a comic in years; The progs with his
|> new RoboHunter haven't made it to the States yet, but, with my fondness for
|> Sam Slade, I can barely sleep at night knowing he's working on it :-).
**He's** doing Sam Slade? Oh, boy... Doesn't he also have a series in
"Crisis" running right now...something like "from the inside..."?
As far as I can tell, only 6 issues of Saviour have come out. Matter of fact,
it's been a few months since anything has come out of Trident Comics. Anyone
know what's going on? Are they still around?
|> Dave d'Antiquis: If anyone knows the correct pronunciation on this, let me
|> know; in the same stark stylistic school as Steve "Zenith" Yeowell, his
|> work on the aforementioned "Silo" and the serial "Brigand Doom" is chilling
|> and enthralling.
Hey--the first Yeowell clone! :-)
|> to new heights. And there's a back-cover pin-up of Anderson that he did
|> somewhere in the 670s that makes me REALLY want to see him try a color story
|> for 2000 AD. Incredible stuff.
I thought Mick Austin's Anderson Cover around 715 was...tremendous. (Wonder
how much he wants for the original? Drool...drool...)
|> Will Simpson: He's come a LONG way from his Neal Adams clone work in
WARRIOR.
|> I find his sense of color more appealing than anything I've ever seen in
|> comics. Extremely effective at creating mood and atmosphere. Textural and
|> evocative...
I was actually disappointed in his Hellblazer work. I was hoping that it
would be painted much in the style of his "Rogue Trooper". He certainly has
come a long way since the days of Warrior. (I always thought he was more of a
Byrne clone, though.)
|> Garth Ennis: Although I still haven't read anything as superb as his first
|> work (TROUBLED SOULS -- _buy_ the trade paperback!), he shows a lot of
|> promise. Gads, I mean, this guy did TROUBLED SOULS when he was 18. His
|> career has just begun and who knows how his work will mature.
"Troubled Souls" was excellent. "True Faith" was even better--far more
disturbing. "For a Few Troubles More" was...interesting. You bet I'm
sticking around for his run on Hellblazer. He's definitely made it onto
my "pick up everything he does" list, as has Millar.
|> So who do you folks think are THE creators to watch, the next Alan Moore or
|> Brian Bolland that will take the US by storm?
I think you've covered the good bets. Millar and Ennis are two of the
strongest writers in comics today. Higgins is fantastic. I would have loved
to have seen his rendition of the upcoming Batman/Judge Dredd crossover. I
wish he had a better series than "World Without End" to introduce his artwork
to American readers, though.
Has anyone noticed that Marvel (for the most part) has not tapped the British
comics scene's personnel pool nearly to the extent that DC has? I
wonder if this has something(/anything? :-)) do with Marvel U.K...
I see now that "CRISIS" is becoming more widely available in this country,
too. I've been reading that since about issue 50. You may want to try it.
It contains more of the same from a similar crowd of contributors. (It's
where "Troubled Souls" first appeared.) Coming soon: Dredd's Megazine!!!
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