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CREATOR OF SATIRICAL 'DILBERT' DISCONNECTED BY PAC BELL
Irreverent comic strip chronicles misadventures in workplace
BERKELEY (AP) Scott Adams, creator of the irreverent workplace comic
strip "Dilbert," has lost his day job.
Adams said Tuesday he and Pacific Bell parted company June 30.
"They asked me to leave, and I did," he said simply.
Pacific Bell officials did not return a call seeking comment.
The cartoonist said he was told that he was being let go because of
budget constraints. He does not know whether his strip satirizing
management idiosyncrasies--and idiocies--played a role.
"I can't read minds, so your guess is as good as mine--why would I doubt
them?" he said in a phone interview from his home in Dublin.
Still, he said his role as management gadfly can't be discounted as a
factor.
Adams' daily comic strip chronicles long-suffering Dilbert's
misadventures at the hands of witless supervisors, experiences that have
struck a chord with many a cubicle-dweller.
Adams, who communicates with readers via electronic mail, says he
receives hundreds of missives from disgruntled workers, many of which
provide fodder for the strip.
In December, Adams did an e-mail survey of "The Top Tenn Most Irritating
Business Trends of 1994." Working with and for dummies were the top two.
An applications engineer, Adams had worked for Pacific Bell for nine
years. "Dilbert" premiered in 1989.
Adams had worked for a boss who thought Dilbert was funny, but he
recently got a new supervisor, one who came in at a time when money was
tight.
Adams said losing the job won't close his window on the workplace.
"I really hadn't used Pacific Bell as a source for a couple of years," he
said. "I get almost all of my inspiration from the Internet."
But, even though he said Dilbert now appears in about 500
newspapers,there was some separation anxiety for a man who had earned a
regular paycheck "probably since I was 16."
So will Dilbert suffer the same corporate karma as his creator?
"I can't rule that out," Adams said.
Despite the awkwardness of being given the push, Adams said the parting
was civil.
"The only issue was that my boss pleaded with me not to introduce a
character with a beard," he said.
Fat chance.
"I'm working on it," Adams said.
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Pacific Bell is laying off a lot of folks and I think Scott Adams just
happened to be one of them. Pac Bell is restructuring a lot of it's
areas, so he is not alone.
I don't think they let him go because was lazy or because of the
strip. At least he doesn't have to take any job he doesn't like to
pay the bills just yet.
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Pac Bell, like all the baby Bells, is fighting like hell for approval
of telecommunications reform that will let them enter the lucrative
long distance market. Such a move would take a ton of capital away
from local improvements projects, like digital telephony. And Scott
Adams (Hi, Scott! :-)worked in the ISDN lab, which is experiencing
layoffs at a time when ISDN usage is just starting to take off...
Might we happen to see a series of Dilbert strips where Dilbert's
company decides to do something similar? "Let's go into the market
of building these profitable widgets." "But where will be get the
startup funds?" "Oh, just lay off a bunch of folks from our core
business..."
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>Adams, who communicates with readers via electronic mail, says he
>receives hundreds of missives from disgruntled workers, many of which
>provide fodder for the strip. "I really hadn't used Pacific Bell as a source
>for a couple of years," he said. "I get almost all of my inspiration from the Internet."
He's getting rich off the labor of others just like the corporate drones he is
so quick to criticize. Where's our cut, Adams, you TECH DWEEB!?
Stop sending the TECH-DWEED Adams ideas for strips and we'll see how long he
lasts! Hypocrite!
I suspect the people who send him ideas get a kick out of seeing their
ideas in print and don't care that he makes a buck off it.
>He's getting rich off the labor of others just like the corporate drones he is
>so quick to criticize. Where's our cut, Adams, you TECH DWEEB!?
At first, I thought this was a joke. But after 2 more just like this, I
have to ask: WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM? Also, why are you hiding behind a
fake "From:"?
zombie
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>I suspect the people who send him ideas get a kick out of seeing their
>ideas in print and don't care that he makes a buck off it.
I guess that makes all of us the Dilberts of the world to Adams as the boss. No
wonder he has that character down so well! Lousy tech-dweeb.
>>He's getting rich off the labor of others just like the corporate drones he is
>>so quick to criticize. Where's our cut, Adams, you TECH DWEEB!?
>At first, I thought this was a joke. But after 2 more just like this, I
>have to ask: WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM?
What are you, some kinda Tech Dweeb? I think I've made myself perfectly clear!
>Also, why are you hiding behind a fake "From:"?
And I suppose your real name is "zombie"? People who throw stones, etc.
>zom...@netcom.com (zombie) wrote:
Just FYI, `Bum Bill Bee' posts from `its.hooked.net', which has the
pseudonyms `mailhost.hooked.net' and `news.hooked.net'. No-one is
logged on as I type this. They're in San Francisco:
Hooked (HOOKED-DOM)
185 Berry St.
Lobby 2/Suite 6650
San Francisco, CA 94107
Domain Name: HOOKED.NET
Administrative Contact:
Holub, David (DH102) da...@HOOKED.NET
415-281-6500
Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
Christensen, Stan (SC64) st...@HOOKED.NET
415-281-6650 FAX 4152816555
Record last updated on 03-Mar-94.
All this data is in the public domain. It can be obtained by examining
the message ID of the postings, the public domain name service data put
up by Hooked, and the NIC registry of sites.
Ordinarily I wouldn't care. However, `zom...@netcom.com' is a valid
mail address. `a@b.c' is not. Zombie (or rather, his system) is
following proper RFC standards for posting. `Bum Bill Bee' (or
possibly his system) is not.
This reader can distinguish between a snowball and a stone.
Ron.
>zom...@netcom.com (zombie) wrote:
>
>>>He's getting rich off the labor of others just like the corporate
drones he is
>>>so quick to criticize. Where's our cut, Adams, you TECH DWEEB!?
>
>>At first, I thought this was a joke. But after 2 more just like this, I
>>have to ask: WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM?
>
>What are you, some kinda Tech Dweeb? I think I've made myself perfectly clear!
Tech Dweeb? Name calling is so mature. And no you haven't. What is your
problem with Scott Adams? You appear jealous of his success. I more
power to him! And thanks for adding a bit of humor to my day.
>>Also, why are you hiding behind a fake "From:"?
>
>And I suppose your real name is "zombie"? People who throw stones, etc.
My address is a valid address. Yours in not. You can email my address.
You can email the postmaster at my site. You can do neither with your
forged address.
>This has got to be one of the densest takes I have ever seen!!
>Does this means John Steinbeck's 'Grapes of Wrath' was built on the bones of the Okies??
>Should John have looked them all up and offered them a cut?? And how about that Margaret
>Mitcell.
No credible author would so BRAZENLY solicit their ideas from others without
just compensation. Of course, it also is a stretch to compare the Grapes of
Wrath to Dilbert! The more appropriate comparison in this case is to Milton
Berle.
>Ordinarily I wouldn't care. However, `zom...@netcom.com' is a valid
>mail address. `a@b.c' is not. Zombie (or rather, his system) is
>following proper RFC standards for posting. `Bum Bill Bee' (or
>possibly his system) is not.
Ooh, good job, Sherlock Dweeb! Let's see who you are:
Industrial Technology Institute (ITI-DOM)
P.O. Box 1485
Ann Arbor, MI 48106
Domain Name: ITI.ORG
Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
Simmons, Steven C. (SCS11) s...@ITI.ORG
(313) 769-4086 (FAX) (313) 769-4064
Record last updated on 22-Mar-95.
Not that I'd ordinarily care. But now that I have this critical data I can rest
easy knowing that Steve Simmons is out there, prowling the Newsgroups, pointing
out technical violations wherever they may arise.
>Tech Dweeb? Name calling is so mature.
If the shoe fits...
>And no you haven't. What is your
>problem with Scott Adams? You appear jealous of his success.
I'll reiterate, O illiterate one. --->
He's getting rich off the labor of others just like the corporate drones he is
so quick to criticize.
Now, can you grasp this sentence or would rather continue raising irrelevant
side issues about my name and writing style?
>My address is a valid address. You can email my address.
>You can email the postmaster at my site.
Like I'd ever want to. Sorry, Tech Dweeb, I really could care less.
What is the problem with this 'Bum Bill Bee' ? Doesn't he/it realise that
it is the 'tech-dweebs' (I prefer the name 'technical elite') rule the world?
Rob ;-)
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>zom...@netcom.com (zombie) wrote:
>
>>Tech Dweeb? Name calling is so mature.
>
>If the shoe fits...
Fine. You are immature.
>>And no you haven't. What is your
>>problem with Scott Adams? You appear jealous of his success.
>
>I'll reiterate, O illiterate one. --->
>
>He's getting rich off the labor of others just like the corporate drones he is
>so quick to criticize.
*He creates* comics based on the humor he sees around him and what he is
told. He deserves the credit for creating the comics.
>Now, can you grasp this sentence or would rather continue raising irrelevant
>side issues about my name and writing style?
I did not critisize your name, unlike you did mine, but rather your
anonymous posting. Coward.
I don't see him holding a gun to their head to send him scenarios.
He still has to write the jokes. Which is pretty hard to do.
I see you're not too good at it.
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>Fine. You are immature.
Boohoohoo!
>*He creates* comics based on the humor he sees around him and what he is
>told.
More the latter than the former as he himself admits.
>He deserves the credit for creating the comics.
Drawing them perhaps (but who really knows). What other cartoonist solicits
material from his readers?
>I did not critisize your name, unlike you did mine, but rather your
>anonymous posting. Coward.
Waaaahhhh!!!!
: [the following line is a previous poster]
:
: >He deserves the credit for creating the comics.
: Drawing them perhaps (but who really knows). What other cartoonist solicits
: material from his readers?
I suppose I should know better than to enter this thread, but what the
heck. There's that guy that drew ``They'll Do It Every Time'' from
1733 to 1991 (some more careful researcher can supply the slightly
corrected dates). It was a _long_ running strip, anyway.
This was the one that had an acknowlegement of who sent in the idea at
the bottom corner of each day's single panel.
Maybe Adams should do the same thing, though from what I've read he
probably gets the same idea from dozens of people at once. He'd
either have to pick one at random, pick the first, or publish a
``credits panel'' and move to two panels of jokes and one of credits.
I'm a little curious about the addressing thing, too. What's
controversial about Dilbert? Or are you just experimenting with
forged postings? I think the Unabomer would agree with your viewpoint
on techies and the rest of us are unlikely to take violent action.
Mike
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>>He deserves the credit for creating the comics.
>Drawing them perhaps (but who really knows). What other cartoonist solicits
>material from his readers?
What's WRONG with soliciting material from readers? He invites people to
send him stories about their workplace-- incidents, situations, etc. People
who WANT to do so, do. If you don't want to send your ideas to Scott, then
don't. Feel free to use them to write your OWN comic strip. (I won't be
holding my breath....)
'Bum Bill Bee' ("cute" name, :-/) is an in-duh-vidual who obviously
lives for flameage. This is how some people get their blood moving
during their bored and lonely days. The rest of us must rely on
calmly discussing comic strips for entertainment. Poor us ;-)!
As for me, I would tend more toward ignoring his pitiful and obvious
attempts to stir up trouble.
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"Find your niche, read the comic(s) for that, and enjoy. Eschew all others"
At least give those who submit ideas credit. Dave Barry regularly says, "The
following was sent in by alert reader Jethro Pignatoski" or whatever. Bill
Griffith will often give a "Tip o' the Pin" to people. You don't necessarily
have to pay people or dwell on it, but don't take other peoples ideas and make
believe they're yours.
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Now it's gone from "It's so funny because it's true" to "It's so funny because
it was my idea." We don't have to do our own strip when we've got the cartoon
juke box at our disposal.
Mr. Zombie didn't say anything about a real name, he (She? It?) said a fake
From: A fake name is nothing, a fake From: means your hiding from anyone
being able to respond to you.
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A one-time-only character in a Krazy Kat strip.
Just compensation is seeing your idea in a Dilbert strip, and hopefully
entertaining others. You may not agree, but the people who are sending in
the ideas obviously do (I would, I'm not greedy), and that's all that really
matters. If they feel it's fair, your getting outraged on their behalf is
just theatrics. Or maybe a upset gagwriter for hire. :)
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Tell, me, have you heard of prozac? It's not just for depression anymore.
>>Also, why are you hiding behind a fake "From:"?
>
>And I suppose your real name is "zombie"? People who throw stones, etc.
Actually, zombie's been around for a good long while, and I think that is,
in fact, his name :)
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>I'll reiterate, O illiterate one. --->
>
>He's getting rich off the labor of others just like the corporate drones he is
>so quick to criticize.
>
>Now, can you grasp this sentence or would rather continue raising irrelevant
>side issues about my name and writing style?
But the irrelevant side issues are so much more interesting...
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Several cartoonists are including their E-mail addresses in their
cartoons. They may only be looking for compliments or criticism, but
I'm sure they get some messages that start out, "I had an idea that
would be perfect for your cartoon."
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>At least give those who submit ideas credit. Dave Barry regularly says, "The
>following was sent in by alert reader Jethro Pignatoski" or whatever. Bill
>Griffith will often give a "Tip o' the Pin" to people. You don't necessarily
>have to pay people or dwell on it, but don't take other peoples ideas and make
>believe they're yours.
Awright, an intelligent suggestion instead of the endless Tech-Dweeb
Adams-worship my contrarian post has brought forth. Congratulations to Messrs.
Silverberg and Beede for thinking for themselves! And to the rest of you: Tech
Dweeb, Tech DWEEB, TECH DWEEB!
>As for me, I would tend more toward ignoring his pitiful and obvious
>attempts to stir up trouble.
Doesn't seem to have affected you, eh, Nanc?
I guess if I were a cartoonist, I'd be afraid the "perfect idea" would
be something plagerized from a source I didn't recognize.
Thanx for the interesting history of cartoons who solicited reader
response.
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Okay, folks, here's the deal: This guy is obviously one of those
alt.syntax.tactical folks, the same group that ruined rec.pets.cats
by inciting mindless flame wars. He doesn't care about Scot Adams,
he doesn't care about your replies, and he doesn't give a flaming
rat's ass in hell about comic strips, he just gets his jollies by
making people mad. I suspect it's one of those sexual inadequacy
things, or he may just be mentally deficient. Either way, it's best
to just ignore him. If your news software supports it, I suggest
adding his address to your killfile. Or, just go on to the next
post when you see his name in the header. Simple. Like him. He
isn't going to say anything that's worth reading, and he's not worth
getting upset over.
Cap.
( Oh, yeah. *plonk*! )
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