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DD DEGG CO

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Mar 31, 2004, 9:31:04 PM3/31/04
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The most famous, no doubt, would be Al Capp's Fearless Fosdick
in his Li'l Abner. Chester Gould had a few in his Dick Tracy. Walt
Kelly would use versions in his Pogo. And there have been others.

But how many of today's comic strip cartoonists put aside the
title/starring characters of their strip to feaure another.

This came to mind when Tom Armstrong used his Sunday (March 28)
"Marvin" space to feature his occasional "Hugh Done It" detective parody.

I can't think of any other current cartoonists who do this.
Has Robb Armstrong ever actually drawn a "Klondike Ike"
strip in his "Jumpstart"?
Does anyone else do this type of thing?


D.D.Degg

Marcovaldo

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Mar 31, 2004, 9:47:04 PM3/31/04
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"Dr. Cesspool" in "Big Nate"

"Slugman" in "Foxtrot".


DD DEGG CO

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Mar 31, 2004, 10:05:06 PM3/31/04
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>From: "Marcovaldo"

>> But how many of today's comic strip cartoonists put aside the
>> title/starring characters of their strip to feaure another.

>"Dr. Cesspool" in "Big Nate"
>
>"Slugman" in "Foxtrot".

Seldom see "Big Nate" and don't remember
the "Fox Trot" one, being only an occasional
viewer of that.

Do Amend or Peirce give fake cartoonist names
as the creators of these 'fake' strips?

D.D.Degg

Mike and Carole

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Chester Gould did it for years, with almost an entire comics page in DICK
TRACY. SAWDUST was one of the strips, then Sparkle Plenty's cousin (and
later husband) Vera Alldid produced THE INVISIBLE TRIBE. There was a third
one too, but I forget it.

Capp spoofed MARY WORTH in ABNER also.

Mike


JGM

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Mar 31, 2004, 10:25:47 PM3/31/04
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DD DEGG CO wrote:

>But how many of today's comic strip cartoonists put aside the
>title/starring characters of their strip to feaure another.

Meta-comics. It looks like Funky Winkerbean is doing exactly that this
week. And one of the underground comics (whose name I can't recall) sometimes
consists of three or four different one-off mock strips.

JGM

Sgt. Orville Snorkel

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Mar 31, 2004, 10:46:53 PM3/31/04
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In article <20040331213104...@mb-m04.aol.com>,

In "Rose Is Rose" there was a S-W-A-S called "Mr. Goony,"
though I don't remember seeing it for the last several
years.

I always thought it was an allusion to Zippy, since it
was (evidently) pretty obscure. For example (digging
out my scrapbook) here's a favorite from '89, as best
as I can render it in text:


(1st frame)
Jimbo: (laughing) "Hoohahahaha Oh, you've gotta *haha*
read Mr. Goony today, Hon!"

(2nd frame)
Rose reads in silence.

(3rd frame)
Rose: "I don't get it. It doesn't
make sense...Mr. Goony NEVER makes any sense!"

(4th frame)
Rose: Do the panels read from left to right?
Jimbo: (thinks) "I'm actually MARRIED to this entity..."

-Sarge

Mark Jackson

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Mar 31, 2004, 10:53:09 PM3/31/04
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Jason Fox draws Slugman (which IIRC is a comic book, not a strip).

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- Leonardo da Vinci


Marcovaldo

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Mar 31, 2004, 11:37:22 PM3/31/04
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The title character of "Big Nate", Nate himself, is a wannabe cartoonist. He
draws "Dr. Cesspool" for his school paper and for his own amusement. He also
draws a strip with a chubby representation of his own father, although I
don't know what title he gives it. He may draw other strips, but I don't
remember offhand.

Jason Fox draws "Slugman", and features a villain "Paige-o-tron", based on
his sister.


Bill Bickel

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"DD DEGG CO" <ddde...@aol.comnixspam> wrote in message
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In Dick Tracy, one of the recurring characters drew a comic strip (which we
saw often) featuring... um... dust mites? Something small and requiring no
actual artistic talent, anyway. Sawdust? Polka dots? Whatever.

Bill Bickel
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Michael G. Koerner

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Apr 1, 2004, 1:07:30 AM4/1/04
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In order to avoid permanantly losing space on the pages during Federally
mandated WWII paper conservation restrictions, Harold Foster created a
temporary strip called 'The Mediaevil Castle' that replaced the bottom
1/3 of a normal Prince Valiant page. After the wartime restrictions
were lifted, he returned the space to Prince Valiant.

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| | | | |\
Michael G. Koerner May they | | | | | | rise again!
Appleton, Wisconsin USA | | | | | |
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Michael G. Koerner

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Apr 1, 2004, 1:10:52 AM4/1/04
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Bill Bickel wrote:
>
> "DD DEGG CO" <ddde...@aol.comnixspam> wrote in message
> news:20040331213104...@mb-m04.aol.com...
> > The most famous, no doubt, would be Al Capp's Fearless Fosdick
> > in his Li'l Abner. Chester Gould had a few in his Dick Tracy. Walt
> > Kelly would use versions in his Pogo. And there have been others.
> >
> > But how many of today's comic strip cartoonists put aside the
> > title/starring characters of their strip to feaure another.
> >
> > This came to mind when Tom Armstrong used his Sunday (March 28)
> > "Marvin" space to feature his occasional "Hugh Done It" detective parody.
> >
> > I can't think of any other current cartoonists who do this.
> > Has Robb Armstrong ever actually drawn a "Klondike Ike"
> > strip in his "Jumpstart"?
> > Does anyone else do this type of thing?
>
> In Dick Tracy, one of the recurring characters drew a comic strip (which we
> saw often) featuring... um... dust mites? Something small and requiring no
> actual artistic talent, anyway. Sawdust? Polka dots? Whatever.

In the strip's early years, Jon Arbuckel (Garfield's owner) was depicted
as the cartoonist whom drew a never named strip.

Also, the father in Family Circus is sometimes shown working as a cartoonist.

Vince Macek

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Apr 1, 2004, 7:32:32 AM4/1/04
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That sounds like Ruben Bolling's 'Tom the Dancing Bug', yes?

Way back around 1970, Gilbert Shelton's "Freak Brothers" (which IIRC
ran in some underground newspapers) did a couple of parody comic
strips - Tricky Prickears the blind deaf cop (apparently parodying
those handicapped-cop tv shows of the time as well as Dick Tracy - his
own Fearless Fosdick), and Little Orphan Amphetamine the filthy rich
teenage unaway.

VMacek

Pat ONeill

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Apr 1, 2004, 7:53:40 AM4/1/04
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There's also "Sophomoric Sightings" written and drawn by two of the students in
Batiuk's Funky Winkerbean.


Best, Pat


Mark Jackson

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Apr 1, 2004, 7:56:23 AM4/1/04
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And the single "comics" issue of the SDS magazine /Radical America/ led
off with Shelton's "Smiling Sgt. Death and his Merciless Mayhem Patrol"
- but that turned into a conventional Wonder Wart-Hog adventure before
the end.

Hate to interrupt with a spelling flame, but it's "Cheney,"
not "Chaney." It may only be one letter, but it's 998 faces.
- Mike Peterson


J.D. Baldwin

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Apr 1, 2004, 8:23:38 AM4/1/04
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In the previous article, Marcovaldo <Marco...@worldnet.att.net>
wrote:

> "Dr. Cesspool" in "Big Nate"

And "Big Nate" also has "Femme Fatality," which I guess is a comic
book series. (She was the subject of a hilarious arc recently -- I
wish it had gone on another week or so.)

Come to think of it, Nate has a number of comic characters besides Dr.
Cesspool, too.
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Mark Sornson

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Apr 1, 2004, 8:36:17 AM4/1/04
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DD DEGG CO wrote:

It's not a 'strip within a strip,' per se,
but how about the title character playing other
comic-strip-like characters, ala Calvin
becoming Spaceman Spiff, or Stupendous Man?

-mark.

DT

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Apr 1, 2004, 11:12:49 AM4/1/04
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ddde...@aol.comnixspam (DD DEGG CO) wrote in
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> Does anyone else do this type of thing?
>

I don't know if it counts, but I always liked it whenever Calvin and Suzy
would play house, it was drawn as a True Romance comic. Probably some of
the funniest stuff ever.

Jym Dyer

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Apr 1, 2004, 2:18:56 PM4/1/04
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> Way back around 1970, Gilbert Shelton's "Freak Brothers"
> (which IIRC ran in some underground newspapers) did a couple
> of parody comic strips - Tricky Prickears the blind deaf cop
> (apparently parodying those handicapped-cop tv shows of the
> time as well as Dick Tracy - his own Fearless Fosdick), and
> Little Orphan Amphetamine the filthy rich teenage unaway.

=v= Dang, I missed that one. But Shelton's successor, Paul
Mavrides, did a *great* parody of the funny pages in _Extra!_
about a decade or so.

=v= _MAD_About_Comic_Strips_ came out a few months ago. It's
got *lots* of this sort of stuff from the pages of _MAD_.
<_Jym_>

Robin

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Apr 1, 2004, 4:33:33 PM4/1/04
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Wasn't it "Boondocks" that invented a purported patriotic "substitute"
strip called "The Adventures of Flaggee and Ribbon," or something on
that line?

--Robin

DD DEGG CO

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Apr 1, 2004, 9:35:40 PM4/1/04
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>From: Vince Macek

>> And one of the underground comics (whose name I can't recall) sometimes
>> consists of three or four different one-off mock strips.
>>
>> JGM
>
>That sounds like Ruben Bolling's 'Tom the Dancing Bug', yes?

I forgot about that.
I, at one time, tried to keep track of the different strips there
and then gave up. Here's an example:
http://www.salon.com/comics/boll/2002/05/02/boll/index.htm

I don't think he has any continuing comic strips there
except for "God-Man":
http://www.salon.com/comics/boll/2002/04/11/boll/index.htm

Which, for some reason, reminded me that Bob Weber, Jr.
occasionally turns over his "Slylock Fox" strip into a gag-a-day
strip featuring "Me and My Big Sister", "Bonnie and Boo",
"Me and My Little Brother", and some others.


D.D.Degg

DD DEGG CO

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Apr 1, 2004, 9:38:48 PM4/1/04
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>> Way back around 1970, Gilbert Shelton's "Freak Brothers"
>did a couple
>> of parody comic strips - Tricky Prickears the blind deaf cop
>and
>> Little Orphan Amphetamine the filthy rich teenage unaway.

>=v= Dang, I missed that one.

Both are in the first Freak Brothers comic book.

>=v= _MAD_About_Comic_Strips_ came out a few months ago. It's
>got *lots* of this sort of stuff from the pages of _MAD_.
> <_Jym_>

I didn't get that one, was it pretty good? should I look for it?


D.D.Degg

DD DEGG CO

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Apr 1, 2004, 9:59:20 PM4/1/04
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>From: "Mike and Carole"

>Chester Gould did it for years, with almost an entire comics page in DICK
>TRACY. SAWDUST was one of the strips, then Sparkle Plenty's cousin (and
>later husband) Vera Alldid produced THE INVISIBLE TRIBE. There was a third
>one too, but I forget it.

This is what I got for Gould's strip-within-a-strip contributions,
all appearing in his "Dick Tracy" comic:

"Bugs and Worms" by Peanut Butter
(1st appeared ?)

"Sawdust" by Chet, Al, Ray, Rick, and Hap
(1st appeared in "D.T." July/31/1964 by Chet Jade, gags by Moonmaid)
(had appeared earlier in Gould's "The Gravies", a Sunday topper to
"D.T." that only appeared in the Chicago Tribune)

"The Invisible Tribe" by Vera Alldid
(1st appeared April 10, 1969)

Corrections and additions always welcome!


D.D.Degg

DD DEGG CO

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Apr 1, 2004, 10:12:28 PM4/1/04
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I'd like to say April Fool, but I'm just a fool, left off the last "l" .

>>That sounds like Ruben Bolling's 'Tom the Dancing Bug', yes?
>

>salon.com/comics/boll/2002/05/02/boll/index.htm
instead try
http://www.salon.com/comics/boll/2002/05/02/boll/index.html

>salon.com/comics/boll/2002/04/11/boll/index.htm
for a full God-Man try
http://www.salon.com/comics/boll/2002/04/11/boll/index.html


D.D.Degg

Jym Dyer

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Apr 2, 2004, 10:39:54 AM4/2/04
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> I don't think he has any continuing comic strips there
> except for "God-Man":
> http://www.salon.com/comics/boll/2002/04/11/boll/index.htm

=v= Billy Dare makes return appearances. :^)
<_Jym_>

Mark Jackson

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Apr 2, 2004, 10:59:15 AM4/2/04
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And The Brain in a Beaker, Bob, two-fisted Judge Scalia, [the education
of] Louis. . . .

DD DEGG CO

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Apr 4, 2004, 5:21:36 PM4/4/04
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>dddegg inquired:

>> But how many of today's comic strip cartoonists put aside the
>> title/starring characters of their strip to feaure another.
>>
>> This came to mind when Tom Armstrong used his Sunday (March 28)
>> "Marvin" space to feature his occasional "Hugh Done It" detective parody.

>> Does anyone else do this type of thing?

And you all replied (giving credit where credit is due):

Robin reminded me that The Boondocks was given over to


"The Adventures of Flaggee and Ribbon"

J. G. McLean, Vince Macek, Jym Dyer, and Mark Jackson
mentioned that Ken Fisher's "Tom the Dancing Bug by Ruben
Bolling" has, over the years, been home to:
"God-Man", "Billy Dare", Brain in a Beaker", "Lucky Ducky",
and many more to numerous to enumerate.

In a serendipitous happenstance, Pat O'Neil showed us that
the very thing I was asking about was going on in Funky
Winkerbean this past week with
"Sophomoric Sightings by Pete and Darin"

In another instance of serendipity, today's (April 4) Curtis
features "The Further Adventures of Supercaptaincoolman"
This is a comic book that Curtis reads. Billingsley turns over
the first three-quarters of the strip to "TFAoS"; the last quarter
has Curtis being caught reading the comic book in class and
being sent to the principal's office.

I had mentioned that Slylock Fox is occasionally the home to
"Bonnie and Boo"


"Me and My Big Sister"

"Me and My Little Brother"

Also mentioned were
Dr. Cesspool (Big Nate)
Femme Fatality (Big Nate)
Slugman (Foxtrot)
Mr Goony (Rose is Rose)
and
Klondike Ike (Jumpstart)

As far as I can determine the above five strips are referred to
but never actually "take over" the entire strip as the others do.

Also since most of Calvin's young life is lived in a fantasy world,
I have to disallow the appearances of Spaceman Spiff,
Stupendous Man, Tyrannosaurus Calvin, and God-Calvin as
strips independant of the main strip.

Missives pointing out my innate foolishness will be given
their proper due.


D.D.Degg

Mike Marshall

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Apr 5, 2004, 11:30:39 AM4/5/04
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Has anyone mentioned SuperCaptainCoolMan and the evil Dr. Horsehead?

They showed up this weekend and it made me think of this thread...

-Mike

J.D. Baldwin

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Apr 5, 2004, 5:32:00 PM4/5/04
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In the previous article, Mark Jackson <mjac...@alumni.caltech.edu>
wrote:

> He Who Wyll Not Credyt Others <j...@econet.org> writes:
> > > I don't think he has any continuing comic strips there
> > > except for "God-Man":
> > > http://www.salon.com/comics/boll/2002/04/11/boll/index.htm
> >
> > =v= Billy Dare makes return appearances. :^)
>
> And The Brain in a Beaker, Bob, two-fisted Judge Scalia, [the education
> of] Louis. . . .

And Lucky Ducky!

And the "Did You Know?" panels.

I hope "Encylopedia Bush" becomes a recurring character.

Freddy Letrange

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Apr 5, 2004, 11:40:19 PM4/5/04
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DD DEGG CO ah dee:

|>>> But how many of today's comic strip cartoonists put aside the
|>>> title/starring characters of their strip to feaure another.
<examples verschnipt>

There's also "Baby Nicole," by "Mert Nertman," which replaces "The Piranha
Club" f/k/a "Ernie" when Bud a/k/a Bo Grace goes on holiday...


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