Sally Forth is the Worst!
Sloan Garrett
Really, Sally Forth is the worst. Readers are expected to endure her
dreary life day after day as she suffers and slaves for her sloppy dull
husband and miserable child. She's a misogynist's dream, a martyr with
coping skills requiring no appreciation.
In her sad world, everyone has the same paralyzed, self-conscious,
deadpan sense of humour. Nobody makes a joke without knowing it's a joke.
It's a level of tedium difficult to achieve in a comic.
Last Sunday's punchline said it all: "I sense sarcasm." Yeah, so do I,
with my nose.
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Bill Bickel
strip character who clearly lives in a 2-dimensional world?
John Switzer
Bill Bickel <bbi...@cris.com> wrote:
>C'mon, give Sally a break. Haven't you noticed she's the only major comic
>strip character who clearly lives in a 2-dimensional world?
Besides, it's the best example out there of a guy writing a comic strip
so he can get laid.
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>C'mon, give Sally a break. Haven't you noticed she's the only major comic
>strip character who clearly lives in a 2-dimensional world?
It used to be it was the same joke for one week repeated over and
over...now it's the same joke over and over for TWO weeks.
AAAARRRRRGGGGHHHH!!!!
"...If you're not in bed by 10:00pm,
give up and come home..."
My Dad, explaining "the facts of life"
Orrin Wilson
Walker) wrote:
>Bill Bickel <bbi...@cris.com> wrote:
>
>>C'mon, give Sally a break. Haven't you noticed she's the only major comic
>>strip character who clearly lives in a 2-dimensional world?
>
>It used to be it was the same joke for one week repeated over and
>over...now it's the same joke over and over for TWO weeks.
>AAAARRRRRGGGGHHHH!!!!
What I found amusing is that, like Dilbert, Sally Forth used to have
an email address printed in each strip -- Hello...@aol.com. I mean,
what kind of feedback did they expect? :
Dear HelloSally,
Your strip is a poorly drawn, humorless bore. FOAD.
Sincerely,
The Internet
Mark Kinsler
Not the entire Internet, I can assure you. Those of us with families,
and who value them, like the Forths a great deal. I suppose I wouldn't
have liked this strip when I was 18, either. Nor would I have
appreciated For Better Or For Worse, or Cathy. But lots of people do.
Mark Kinsler
Bill Bickel
>>>Bill Bickel <bbi...@cris.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>C'mon, give Sally a break. Haven't you noticed she's the only major comic
>>>>strip character who clearly lives in a 2-dimensional world?
>>>
>>>It used to be it was the same joke for one week repeated over and
>>>over...now it's the same joke over and over for TWO weeks.
>>>AAAARRRRRGGGGHHHH!!!!
Let's clean up this thread, guys! The second paragraph's not mine, but
once somebody decided it was, its fate was to be linked with my name
forevermore.
I'm PERFECTLY able to plagerize on my own, thank you.
-Bill
Ted Delorme
recognizes his artistic limitations, and a couple of years ago he let
his assistant redesign things and take a bigger hand in the art chores.
The crowd went wild, and they weren't amused, so Howard resumed drawing
the strip, though Mac still assists him.
There are plenty of less-funny strips to pick on; this one's decent
more often than not.
AnimaTed
Ian
strip is one of the "soap opera" strips of the 70s.
Tom Struzik
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>
> There are plenty of less-funny strips to pick on; this one's decent
> more often than not.
>
> AnimaTed
Yes, like Safe Havens. It would be hard to find something as lame.
What's the deal with the kid walking around in a big ball? I only read
to see if it can get stupider. It never disappoints me.
Steve A. Thompson
Ted Delorme <deja...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> Yep, count me among those who enjoy Sally Forth. The artist
>recognizes his artistic limitations, and a couple of years ago he let
>his assistant redesign things and take a bigger hand in the art chores.
>The crowd went wild, and they weren't amused, so Howard resumed drawing
>the strip, though Mac still assists him.
Actually, this isn't quite correct. Both Greg Howard and Craig MacIntosh
are local, so this got more press here than it may have elsewhere. A few
years ago, Howard recognized that his art skills were less than ideal (he's
an ex-lawyer, but I refrain from the obvious jokes). He brough MacIntosh in
essentially as a "hired pen." Mac has worked for years as one of two
editorial cartoonists on the Minneapolis Star/Tribune, and also does
general illustration work for them. The immediate change in style was too
jarring and Mac ended up having to conform his style closer to Howard's.
Mac does the drawing, Howard the writing, and their situation has always
been partners, not boss/assistant.
BTW, MacIntosh works with Steve Sack, the other Star/Trib cartoonist, to
produce "Cappy Dick" for kids. He's also done at least one book of
architectural illustration.
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Ted Delorme
anything. There are plenty of comic strips I mildly dislike, and more I
actively despise. But you folks keep picking on the ones I like.
Safe Havens & On the Fast Track by Bill Holbrook are two faves.
I've even got a few signed originals on the wall. Bill is one of the
most imaginative cartoonists currently cranking out three weeklies, so
don't diss him, okay.
It seems to be hip to bitch about strips we hate. Let's ignore 'em
instead, and talk about strips we like.
"It's not silly, it's surreal. . . "
Mucho arigatou,
AnimaTed
Ted Delorme
^_^ I actually had no access to Sally Forth at the time the big
controversy occurred, so I only had spotty second-hand info.
Ewww, an ex-lawyer! So THAT's why people don't like the strip. AT
least he got over it. . .
AnimaTed
MacBubba
> I agree. Sally Forth is not funny or even entertaining at all. That
> strip is one of the "soap opera" strips of the 70s.
I assume we are talking about the British strip, and not the Wally Wood
Overseas Weekly strip?
MacBubba
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MacBubba
newspaper comic strip that has continually left me with so little an
impression, that I had quite forgotten it.
Never mind...
MacBub
Eric Newman
Eric Newman
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Michael Rogero Brown
MacBubba (deb...@azstarnet.com) wrote:
: > I agree. Sally Forth is not funny or even entertaining at all. That
: > strip is one of the "soap opera" strips of the 70s.
: I assume we are talking about the British strip, and not the Wally Wood
: Overseas Weekly strip?
Neither. "Sally Forth" is the name of a US strip about a working mother.
Most of the strips focus on either her office life with her co-workers, boss
or secretary, or on here home life with her daughter and husband. A few years
ago, the writer/artist decided to stop drawing it and had another artist do
the art. The style was different and many where upset by this.
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Michael Rogero Brown (mich...@cse.fau.edu) wrote:
: MacBubba (deb...@azstarnet.com) wrote:
: : In article <4keaep$m...@harbour.awod.com>, Ian <iwa...@awod.com> wrote:
: : > I agree. Sally Forth is not funny or even entertaining at all. That
: : > strip is one of the "soap opera" strips of the 70s.
**Just for fun, here's an edited re-run of the original post that started
this thread:**
Sally is a post-yuppie executive with a Thatcher hairdo. The jokes are
supposed to come from her type-A personality, and they do, as this is the
only personality of any kind existing in the strip. Her boss is a
humourless slave-driver with the menace of a drill sergeant. Her bland,
sloppy husband raises her ire with his housework evasion. Her daughter of
indeterminate age cracks wise with exactly the same paralyzed irony and
sly smile as everyone else, but she's a kid so it's supposed to be funnier.
All the characters spout their jokes intentionally, AS jokes, with a
stilted self-consciousness difficult to achieve in a comic strip. The
Forth's is a world grimmer than reality, a sort of four-panel
Hell.
(Contrast this with One Big Happy, or Fox Trot, where the characters are
funny in uniquely different ways.)
The title Sally Forth is a paternalistic rallying cry for all modern
overworked women. Sally slaves for other people, at work and at home. She
does everything she should: nurture, produce, consume. Her type-A
personality is merely an adaptation to her oppressive environment.