Doonesbury 07-20
GI Trekker
time, but what set Trudeau off on THIS? I don't drink coffee products myself,
so I'm not one to be found in a Starbucks, but (a) is this sort of thing
accurate and (b) is it really so annoying that Trudeau felt obliged to dedicate
an entire strip to it? Maybe he needs to lay off the stuff.
Chris Clarke
gitr...@aol.com (GI Trekker) wrote:
> (a) is this sort of thing
> accurate and (b) is it really so annoying that Trudeau felt obliged to
> dedicate an entire strip to it?
Dunno. You seemed to like the equivalent joke when Ziggy devoted an
entire strip to it...
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Heather M. Fieldhouse
(in message <20030720113316...@mb-m14.aol.com>):
> You know, this strip is either pointless or at least wrong-headed most of the
> time, but what set Trudeau off on THIS? I don't drink coffee products myself,
> so I'm not one to be found in a Starbucks, but (a) is this sort of thing
> accurate
Yes, and it isn't just Starbucks either. All the coffee places around here
call their smallest size "tall" or something similar. Actually, nobody calls
anything "small" anymore, as far as I can tell. The movie theaters and fast
food places have all gotten into the habit of referring to drink sizes as
"medium, large, and extra-large."
Heather
Ray
Thought it was pretty darn funny myself! I've had similar thoughts
when in Starbucks.
Don Del Grande
(a) Yes, and for the record, "venti" is Italian for "20" (as in
"there's 20 ounces of coffee-related beverage in this cup").
(b) It seemed to me more of a joke about "the terminology of the day";
Starbucks terms are slowly creeping into the mainstream vocabulary as
much as "supersize" has in the past few years.
---------------------------------------------
Don Del Grande, del_g...@earthlink.net
And notice he didn't throw in a joke about the server responding to
the request for "coffee" with "what kind?"
Marcovaldo
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> If you order a "short" coffee at Starbucks, you will, indeed, get
> an 8oz cup of coffee. They just don't publicize it. (Tall is
> 12oz, grande is 16oz, and venti is 20oz. Yup, that's a pint of
> coffee. "Venti" apparently means "20" in Italian--I'll have to
> take the word of the Starbucks marketing department for that
> though.)
"Venti" does indeed mean "twenty".
This discussion reminds me of a recent trip to Dairy Queen. I had requested
a small order of onion rings. After a significant pause, the girl responded
through the loud speaker that they did not have small; only medium and
large.
Bill Bickel
Michael Doonesbury's age): Young Mike is just becoming a cranky old man.
Bill Bickel
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Mark Steese
der news:cclarke-6861BF...@news-west.giganews.com schrieb:
> In article <20030720113316...@mb-m14.aol.com>,
> gitr...@aol.com (GI Trekker) wrote:
>
>> (a) is this sort of thing accurate and (b) is it really so annoying
>> that Trudeau felt obliged to dedicate an entire strip to it?
>
> Dunno. You seemed to like the equivalent joke when Ziggy devoted an
> entire strip to it...
>
> Message-ID: <20030707234447...@mb-m14.aol.com>
Trudeau's gone too far this time. Promoting his misguided and WRONG
Liberal perniciousness is bad enough, but plagiarizing Tom Wilson is
beyond the pale. First Bil Keane advocates Satanism, and now this!
-Mark
--
there's a ribbon in the willow and a tire swing rope
and a briar patch of berries takin over the slope
the cat'll sleep in the mailbox and we'll never go to town
till we bury every dream in the cold cold ground
cold cold ground -Tom Waits
Andrew Ryan Chang
>Yes, and it isn't just Starbucks either. All the coffee places around here
>call their smallest size "tall" or something similar. Actually, nobody calls
FWIW, there's at least one cafe chain in Vancouver that does
espresso drinks in "small", "medium", and "large". But then again, they
don't have soy milk either.
--
You are not your job. You are not the money in your bank account. You are
not the car you drive. You are not how much money is in your wallet. You
are not your fucking khakis. You are the all-singing, all-dancing crap of
the world. -- Tyler Durden, FIGHT CLUB (1999)
Mark Steese
<bill...@optonline.com>, der news:fwDSa.30831$ye5.7187111
@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net schrieb:
> I read the strip differently (maybe it's my awareness that I'm close
> to Michael Doonesbury's age): Young Mike is just becoming a cranky old
> man.
He should try Dutch Brothers coffee, instead. Best latte in the Pacific
Northwest, and it comes in three sizes: small, medium, and large. It's
the answer to a cranky old (or even middle-aged) man's prayers.
Mark Steese
(not paid to endorse Dutch Brothers, alas)
Alan Hamilton
<ccl...@faultline.org> wrote:
>In article <20030720113316...@mb-m14.aol.com>,
> gitr...@aol.com (GI Trekker) wrote:
>
>> (a) is this sort of thing
>> accurate and (b) is it really so annoying that Trudeau felt obliged to
>> dedicate an entire strip to it?
>
>Dunno. You seemed to like the equivalent joke when Ziggy devoted an
>entire strip to it...
Click & Clack did it in 1998:
http://cartalk.cars.com/About/Rant/r-rlast26.html
--
/
/ * / Alan Hamilton
* * al...@arizonaroads.com
Chris Clarke
"Bill Bickel" <bill...@optonline.com> wrote:
> I read the strip differently (maybe it's my awareness that I'm close to
> Michael Doonesbury's age): Young Mike is just becoming a cranky old man.
This you call a cranky old man? Feh. In my day, we KNEW from cranky old
men.
Sherwood Harrington
: In article <fwDSa.30831$ye5.7...@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>,
: "Bill Bickel" <bill...@optonline.com> wrote:
: > I read the strip differently (maybe it's my awareness that I'm close to
: > Michael Doonesbury's age): Young Mike is just becoming a cranky old man.
: This you call a cranky old man? Feh. In my day, we KNEW from cranky old
: men.
Remind me: what, exactly, did we impart to you? Other than what Mike
Peterson does all the time, I mean.
--
Jerry Atrick
Boulder Creek, California
Sherwood Harrington
: Chris Clarke (ccl...@faultline.org) wrote:
: : This you call a cranky old man? Feh. In my day, we KNEW from cranky old
: : men.
: Remind me: what, exactly, did we impart to you? Other than what Mike
: Peterson does all the time, I mean.
Oh, and while I'm at it, that Del Grande poster guy really should consider
changing his name to Del Medium unless he's trying to impress, well...
hmmm... Luann?
--
Sherwood Harrington
Mondo Humonguoso, California
Chris Clarke
Sherwood Harrington <sher...@rahul.net> wrote:
You want I should type more with my bursitis acting up?
GI Trekker
entire strip to it...>>
Yeah, but that was a one-panel making a joke about the COFFEE ITSELF, not
getting picky about the WORD usage. These coffee places are big jokes anyway,
really, but I'd be a lot more inclined to ridicule the "coffee". And Ziggy
didn't rant on about it for five panels.
GI Trekker
call their smallest size "tall" or something similar. Actually, nobody calls
anything "small" anymore, as far as I can tell. The movie theaters and fast
food places have all gotten into the habit of referring to drink sizes as
"medium, large, and extra-large.">>
Same with fast food places. Maybe instead of being pseudo-snobbish about it
like coffee places, we should have a little fun. Instead of "large,
extra-large, and supersize" in fast food places, we could go with "huge",
"massive", and "good luck getting your fat @$$ out the door when you finish."
GI Trekker
a small order of onion rings. After a significant pause, the girl responded
through the loud speaker that they did not have small; only medium and
large.>>
I'd worry about that "significant pause". Yes, another successful burgeoning
career in the restaurant industry!
GI Trekker
much as "supersize" has in the past few years.>>
Thanks for the warning.
Of course I can remember when Starbuck was a character on Battlestar
Galactica...
Sherwood Harrington
: In article <bffo2v$9hn$1...@blue.rahul.net>,
: Sherwood Harrington <sher...@rahul.net> wrote:
: > Chris Clarke (ccl...@faultline.org) wrote:
: > : This you call a cranky old man? Feh. In my day, we KNEW from cranky old
: > : men.
: >
: > Remind me: what, exactly, did we impart to you? Other than what Mike
: > Peterson does all the time, I mean.
: You want I should type more with my bursitis acting up?
Bursitis, schmursitis. Come back and let me know how you feel when you've
developed this, ah..., this condition that, err... whatever it's
called. You just do that.
By the way, I see that GIT has actually engaged in some back-and-forth,
noting that it's quite a different thing to make jokes about coffee
(ok) than to make jokes about coffee-serving terminology (not ok). Nice
to see that he's not just doing hit-and-run anymore, but has matured into
hit-and-come-back-to-gum-to-death.
Not that I should talk.
--
Sherwood Harrington
Starbucks, California
Chris Clarke
Sherwood Harrington <sher...@rahul.net> wrote:
> Chris Clarke (ccl...@faultline.org) wrote:
> : In article <bffo2v$9hn$1...@blue.rahul.net>,
> : Sherwood Harrington <sher...@rahul.net> wrote:
>
> : > Chris Clarke (ccl...@faultline.org) wrote:
>
> : > : This you call a cranky old man? Feh. In my day, we KNEW from cranky old
> : > : men.
> : >
> : > Remind me: what, exactly, did we impart to you? Other than what Mike
> : > Peterson does all the time, I mean.
>
> : You want I should type more with my bursitis acting up?
>
> Bursitis, schmursitis. Come back and let me know how you feel when you've
> developed this, ah..., this condition that, err... whatever it's
> called.
Enh. I've seen worse.
Mark Steese
news:20030721012948...@mb-m16.aol.com schrieb:
Say, was that Herman Melville I just heard rolling over in his grave?
-Mark
ronniecat
message which the Enigma Machine correctly deciphered as:
>And Ziggy
>didn't rant on about it for five panels.
Oh, for heaven's sake, GI, Ziggy is a -
oh, the hell with it.
ronnie
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Len-L
<bill...@optonline.com> wrote:
>I read the strip differently (maybe it's my awareness that I'm close to
>Michael Doonesbury's age): Young Mike is just becoming a cranky old man.
Or maybe Trudeau is.
Len-L
jack
For people like me, who have to study the menu nearly every S'bucks
visit just to be able to convey what @#*% SIZE they want, Sunday's
strip was wonderfully spot-on. And Mike, shown in profile with his
gray very apparent, looking curmudgeonly against the classic Starbucks
wall-- I was right there with him.
Thanks for asking.
ronniecat
message which the Enigma Machine correctly deciphered as:
>like coffee places, we should have a little fun. Instead of "large,
>extra-large, and supersize" in fast food places, we could go with "huge",
>"massive", and "good luck getting your fat @$$ out the door when you finish."
During the Apollo space program, the astro-men peed through tubes in
their spacesuits into some kind of collecting receptacle. The tubes,
fitted individually for the gents' comfort (they've been described to
me as "kind of like condoms"), were labeled "small", "medium" and
"large". The thought that one of them might be fitted with a "small"
or "medium" tube was so terrifying that the boys insisted (tongue
firmly in cheek, one prays) that the labeling be changed to "large",
"huge" and "unbelievable". NASA obliged, showing that government did,
in fact, once have a sense of humour.
ronnie
--
"Wow. A hat. Shine on, you crazy diamond." - Rob, "Get Fuzzy"
J.D. Baldwin
In the previous article, ronniecat <ronn...@mycollar.ronniecat.com>
wrote:
> During the Apollo space program, the astro-men peed through tubes in
> their spacesuits into some kind of collecting receptacle. The tubes,
> fitted individually for the gents' comfort (they've been described
> to me as "kind of like condoms"), were labeled "small", "medium" and
> "large". The thought that one of them might be fitted with a "small"
> or "medium" tube was so terrifying that the boys insisted (tongue
> firmly in cheek, one prays) that the labeling be changed to "large",
> "huge" and "unbelievable". NASA obliged, showing that government
> did, in fact, once have a sense of humour.
I detect the distinct aroma of Urban Legend, but it's a cute story
nonetheless. (Aren't they always?)
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\ / bal...@panix.com|to deny under oath that I ever made it. -T. Lehrer
***~~~~-----------------------------------------------------------------------
ronniecat
(J.D. Baldwin) wrote a message which the Enigma Machine correctly
deciphered as:
>I detect the distinct aroma of Urban Legend, but it's a cute story
>nonetheless. (Aren't they always?)
And you would be wise to do so, because it reeks of it, doesn't it?
However, I know this is documented in at least a couple of the hundred
or so books we've got around the house on the early space program and
I'll try to come up with a couple of cites for you.
Now, it's possible that those who told the story to the books' authors
and editors made it up or repeated a NASA legend. However, the story
fits in very realistically with the overall tenor of the place and
time, the pranks, practical jokes and senses of humour attached, and
the personalities involved.
ronnie
--
Homer: But Marge, I don't like Japanese things.
Marge: You liked Rashomon.
Homer (firmly): That's not how I remember it.
GI Trekker
> Galactica...
Say, was that Herman Melville I just heard rolling over in his grave?>>
No, it was probably Lorne Greene.
GI Trekker
and editors made it up or repeated a NASA legend. However, the story
fits in very realistically with the overall tenor of the place and
time, the pranks, practical jokes and senses of humour attached, and
the personalities involved.>>
Interesting. I MIGHT -- emphasis on the word MIGHT due to the time between now
and then and financial circumstances, be attending a convention in Florida next
July that is offering a tour of NASA. Given my longtime interest in space
exploration, I may have to investigate this...
GI Trekker
: successful burgeoning career in the restaurant industry!
It was probably the girl, quite reasonably, looking for the
"small" button on the computer thing that they enter the orders
into, and wondering where the hell it was.>>
Like I said.....
Hail
> Es war einmal ein Mensch, genannt gitr...@aol.com (GI Trekker), der
> news:20030721012948...@mb-m16.aol.com schrieb:
>
> ><<Starbucks terms are slowly creeping into the mainstream vocabulary as
> > much as "supersize" has in the past few years.>>
> >
> > Thanks for the warning.
> >
> > Of course I can remember when Starbuck was a character on Battlestar
> > Galactica...
>
> Say, was that Herman Melville I just heard rolling over in his grave?
>
> -Mark
Say it ain't so! Next thing you'll be saying that they stole the name
Apollo from somewhere else, too!
Mike Peterson
"Hail" <stro...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:f3976f2f.03072...@posting.google.com...
The Apollo program began well before Battlestar Galactica hit the airwaves.
I believe NASA chose the name from the Greek god.
Sort of like the coffeeshops probably took the name from the mate of the
Pequod.
Oh, and, in the new Battlestar? Starbuck has become a Stardoe.
It's so hard for the future to keep up with the present!
Mike Peterson
Glens Falls NY
Invid Fan
Peterson <pete...@nelliebly.org> wrote:
> Oh, and, in the new Battlestar? Starbuck has become a Stardoe.
>
With luck the character will still chase women.
--
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'Invid Fan' Not a help, you'll admit, to agreement between us."
-'Deal/No Deal', CHESS
Sherwood Harrington
: In article <zQ_Sa.904$gi.12...@news2.news.adelphia.net>, Mike
: Peterson <pete...@nelliebly.org> wrote:
: > Oh, and, in the new Battlestar? Starbuck has become a Stardoe.
: >
: With luck the character will still chase women.
And to aid sensitivity to the learning-disabled, the whole series will be
re-titled "Bafflestar Dyslexia".
--
Sherwood Harrington
Who was always baffled by it, anyway.
Marcovaldo
news:P3USa.3250$o7.4...@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu...
> "Marcovaldo" <Marco...@worldnet.att.net> writes:
>
> >This discussion reminds me of a recent trip to Dairy Queen. I had
requested
> >a small order of onion rings. After a significant pause, the girl
responded
> >through the loud speaker that they did not have small; only medium and
> >large.
>
> XXX, the smallest size you have."
>
> Maiko "whatever you might call it" Covington
They don't have small milk shakes either. Only medium, large and extra
large.
Marcovaldo
news:Xns93BEEF4F5E40m...@130.133.1.4...
>
> Say, was that Herman Melville I just heard rolling over in his grave?
He's dead??? I didn't know he was sick!
jack
GI Trekker
I was hoping no one would mention that...
J.D. Baldwin
In the previous article, GI Trekker <gitr...@aol.com> wrote:
> <<Oh, and, in the new Battlestar? Starbuck has become a Stardoe.>>
>
> I was hoping no one would mention that...
I could have gone the rest of my life without even knowing there *was*
a "new Battlestar." Ugh.
Antonio E. Gonzalez
>Date: 7/21/2003 9:29 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <_43Ta.66180$3o3.4...@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>
"Generalissimo Francisco Franco, is *still* dead!"
- Vaughner
"That guy exploits his pets more than Bob Guccione!"
- Marge Simpson
Invid Fan
Gonzalez <ante...@aol.complex> wrote:
> >From: "Marcovaldo" Marco...@worldnet.att.net
> >Date: 7/21/2003 9:29 PM Pacific Standard Time
> >Message-id: <_43Ta.66180$3o3.4...@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>
> >
> >"Mark Steese" <mst...@charter.net> wrote in message
> >news:Xns93BEEF4F5E40m...@130.133.1.4...
> >
> >>
> >> Say, was that Herman Melville I just heard rolling over in his grave?
> >
> >He's dead??? I didn't know he was sick!
> >
>
> "Generalissimo Francisco Franco, is *still* dead!"
>
"And French President Charles DeGall (sp?) rose from the dead today,
just to show he could really do it."
Mark Steese
Baldwin), der news:bfjhq8$f38$4...@reader1.panix.com schrieb:
>
> In the previous article, GI Trekker <gitr...@aol.com> wrote:
>> <<Oh, and, in the new Battlestar? Starbuck has become a Stardoe.>>
>>
>> I was hoping no one would mention that...
>
> I could have gone the rest of my life without even knowing there *was*
> a "new Battlestar." Ugh.
Really. I haven't finished being annoyed by the old one yet. That
wretched little kid and his wretched little cyberdog...gah!
blake murphy
maybe you could order a milk shake and ask them to undersize it.
your pal,
blake
Rob Wynne
>If you order a "short" coffee at Starbucks, you will, indeed, get
>an 8oz cup of coffee. They just don't publicize it. (Tall is
>12oz, grande is 16oz, and venti is 20oz. Yup, that's a pint of
>coffee. "Venti" apparently means "20" in Italian--I'll have to
>take the word of the Starbucks marketing department for that
>though.)
>
I forget where I snarfed this for my quotes file:
"I decided "doppio espresso" probably wasn't going to cut it at the
airport Starbuck's in Portland, Oregon. So I was gentle with the spotty
lad behind the counter and asked for a "short black". Inexplicably, I
was handed a six-litre milkshake container full of almost-boiling grey
bilge which smelt disconcertingly like my eleven-year-old cat."
--R.H. Draney
--
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