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Grin and Bear It - RIP

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Brian Henke

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May 4, 2015, 3:31:23 PM5/4/15
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It looks like Grin and Bear It ended Sunday. It has been deleted on Comics Kingdom, and the Chron has Saturday's episode still up. There was no mention of the strip's demise on Saturday's and Sunday's episode (no farewell gags, etc.)

So:


GRIN AND BEAR IT by George Lichtenstein ('Lichty'), Rick Yager, Fred Wagner, and Ralph Dunagin
1932-May 3, 2015
United Feature Syndicate, Field Enterprises, News America Syndicate, North America/King Features Syndicate

Cincy...@aol.com

------

Judge Parker, One Big Happy, broadsheet newspapers

- Name three things that used to be in Cincinnati you can now find in Atlanta

D Heine

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May 4, 2015, 6:20:04 PM5/4/15
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On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 2:31:23 PM UTC-5, Brian Henke wrote:
> It looks like Grin and Bear It ended Sunday. It has been deleted on Comics Kingdom, and the Chron has Saturday's episode still up. There was no mention of the strip's demise on Saturday's and Sunday's episode (no farewell gags, etc.)
>
> So:
>
>
> GRIN AND BEAR IT by George Lichtenstein ('Lichty'), Rick Yager, Fred Wagner, and Ralph Dunagin
> 1932-May 3, 2015
> United Feature Syndicate, Field Enterprises, News America Syndicate, North America/King Features Syndicate
>
>
> ------
>
> Judge Parker, One Big Happy, broadsheet newspapers
>
> - Name three things that used to be in Cincinnati you can now find in Atlanta

So ends the Grin and Bear It strip even if the last May 3, 2015 strip has been up on Comics Kingdom..

Now I hope the next strips to end before 2015 is over are:
a) Get Fuzzy
b) Stone Soup
c) Doonesbury (maybe its demise could be next year?)

Stephen Graham

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May 4, 2015, 7:53:16 PM5/4/15
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On 5/4/2015 3:20 PM, D Heine wrote:

> Now I hope the next strips to end before 2015 is over are:
> a) Get Fuzzy
> b) Stone Soup
> c) Doonesbury (maybe its demise could be next year?)

I get that you don't like these strips. But give it a rest.

Jimmy Delach

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May 4, 2015, 10:42:36 PM5/4/15
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I doubt it's that. Just because "a" and "c" have been in what appears to be reruns (at least the Daily strips have been) forever. My newspaper only gets "Stone Soup" on Sundays so I have no idea how often it's been in reruns (although it is rumored the strip might be at an end).

That's how I interpret it anyway.

D Heine

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May 4, 2015, 11:08:49 PM5/4/15
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> I doubt it's that. Just because "a" and "c" have been in what appears to be reruns (at least the Daily strips have been) forever. My newspaper only gets "Stone Soup" on Sundays so I have no idea how often it's been in reruns (although it is rumored the strip might be at an end).
>
> That's how I interpret it anyway.

No, Stone Soup is currently in a first run daily story arc dealing with Phil's accident and hospital stay for survival and surgery.

D.D.Degg

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May 4, 2015, 11:39:25 PM5/4/15
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Responding and adding to what Brian Henke wrote:

> GRIN AND BEAR IT
Daily panel, Sunday page (group) of panels

> by George Lichtenstein ('Lichty'),
It seems George Lichty's birth name was Maurice Lichtenstein
(from an Ancestry.com search).
At some point he took on the name George.
During his college years he was still Maurice Lichtenstein,
Though he was signing his art "Lichty".
http://bentley.umich.edu/athdept/football/fbart/aofimage/1928indl.jpg
http://bentley.umich.edu/athdept/football/fbart/aofimage/1928owl.jpg

I THINK he ended up with George M. Lichty as his legal name.

>Rick Yager, Fred Wagner, and Ralph Dunagin
Also add Arthur Erenberg to the list of contributors.
He was Lichty's gag man or writer or both for 35 years or so.
From the Comic Strip Project:
Erenberg, Arthur
b. 1909
journalist, New Yorker
wr cs Grin and Bear It 39-74
r. CA [Contemporary Authors]
http://www.bpib.com/comicsproj/wwupdates4.html

>1932-May 3, 2015
According to Allan Holtz's American Newspaper Comics
https://www.press.umich.edu/2133963/american_newspaper_comics
the panel began in March of 1932.
It is my understanding (no backup/source) that it began
as a Sunday only feature in the Chicago Times.
That would whittle it down to March 6, 13, 20, or 27.

The daily began a couple years later, again - my understanding.
If that is the case my GUESS is that the daily panel began when
the feature was picked up for syndication by United Feature,
which would put the daily beginning September 3, 1934.
But I have no proof/source of the daily start date - not to be taken as gospel.

> Feature Syndicate, Field Enterprises, News America Syndicate, North America/King Features Syndicate

The list of papers/syndicates from Holtz's American Newspaper Comics:
Chicago Times March 1932 - August 26, 1934
United Feature Syndicate September 2, 1934 - May 25, 1940
Chicago Times May 26, 1940 - October 5, 1947
Sun and Times Company October 6, 1947 - September 30, 1950
Field Enterprises October 1, 1950 - May 25, 1963
[nothing for May 26, 1963 date]
Publishers Syndicate May 27, 1963 - August 6, 1967
Publishers-Hall Syndicate August 7, 1967 - June 9, 1968
Field Enterprises June 10, 1968 - April 22, 1984
News America Syndicate April 23, 1984 - March 8, 1987
North America Syndicate March 9, 1987 - present
[As Brian points out North America Syndicate is a
wholly-owned subsidiary of King Features Syndicate.]

A review of Allan Holtz's American Newspaper Comics at
http://www.leisurelyhistorian.net/review-allan-holtz-american-newspaper-comics

D.D.Degg

Stephen Graham

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May 5, 2015, 12:52:06 AM5/5/15
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On 5/4/15 7:42 PM, Jimmy Delach wrote:
> On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 7:53:16 PM UTC-4, Stephen Graham wrote:
>> On 5/4/2015 3:20 PM, D Heine wrote:
>>
>>> Now I hope the next strips to end before 2015 is over are:
>>> a) Get Fuzzy
>>> b) Stone Soup
>>> c) Doonesbury (maybe its demise could be next year?)
>>
>> I get that you don't like these strips. But give it a rest.
>
> I doubt it's that. Just because "a" and "c" have been in what appears to be reruns (at least the Daily strips have been) forever.

There are strips still in the papers that have been in reruns longer
than either Get Fuzzy or Doonesbury. I don't see any complaints from D.
Heine about them. Therefore I conclude that it's a particular dislike
for these two strips.

Doonesbury is doing something interesting with the daily strips by
offering a strip retrospective, rather than running through everything
from the start, or skipping about somewhat randomly through the years.

But really it's the constant harping on the same few themes that leads
me to say give it a rest. The point has been made. Move on.

D.D.Degg

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May 5, 2015, 4:02:51 AM5/5/15
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Brian Henke wrote:
> It looks like Grin and Bear It ended Sunday.
> It has been deleted on Comics Kingdom...

For those who missed it, the URL is still good
for the last days (for a couple weeks I would guess):
http://comicskingdom.com/grin-and-bear-it/2015-05-03

I notice the infamous Senator Snort appeared in
both the last daily and the last Sunday.

D.D.Degg

Chrysi Cat

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May 5, 2015, 6:19:53 AM5/5/15
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It'd be nice if CK did what GoComics does and hold onto the archive of
cancelled comics indefinitely for subscribers only. You can go back 10
years on something like "On a Claire Day", while, say, "Gil" only exists
in the memories of people who downloaded it before King scrubbed its
content.

And the only way it would ever be back is to win a Vintage Comic vote in
like 25 years.

--
Chrysi Cat
1/2 anthrocat, nearly 1/2 anthrofox, all magical
Transgoddess, quick to anger
Call me Chrysi or call me Kat, I'll respond to either!

angelolady

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May 6, 2015, 5:44:28 PM5/6/15
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On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 2:31:23 PM UTC-5, Brian Henke wrote:
> It looks like Grin and Bear It ended Sunday. >

And so goes another one that I grew up reading. I'm old.

D.D.Degg

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May 12, 2015, 2:47:19 AM5/12/15
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The Press & Sun-Bulletin is picking up Carpe Diem
to replace Grin and Bear It because, as they say,
"That strip first began in 1932 and the cartoonist is retiring from syndication".
http://www.pressconnects.com/story/news/local/2015/05/11/carpe-diem/27133309/

I guess that retiring cartoonist is gag writer Ralph Dunagin,
because Fred Wagner continues with his other strip Animal Crackers.
http://www.tribunecontentagency.com/premium-content/comics/animal-crackers/

D.D.Degg
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