Pearls Before Swine: Pre-existing Condition

[Lynn McGuire]

Pearls Before Swine: Pre-existing Condition
https://www.gocomics.com/pearlsbeforeswine/2021/08/17

And people think that Single Payer is going to fix all this. Ha ! Oh
yeah, we are headed there.

Lynn

[J. Clarke]

God save us.

Once the do-gooders figure out that their "free" medical actually
costs something, we'll all be looking back on the good old days.

[Alan Baker]

I've had a right biceps tendon since birth...

...but BC's single-payer system paid for it just fine.

[Leif Roar Moldskred]

When it comes to the issue of "pre-existing conditions" a single payer
system _would_ fix it.

--
Leif Roar Moldskred
It's not pre _treatment_, it's pre _insurance_.

[J. Clarke]

On Wed, 18 Aug 2021 01:11:55 -0500, Leif Roar Moldskred
<le...@huldreheim.Home> wrote:

>In rec.arts.sf.written Lynn McGuire <lynnmc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Pearls Before Swine: Pre-existing Condition
>> https://www.gocomics.com/pearlsbeforeswine/2021/08/17
>>
>> And people think that Single Payer is going to fix all this. Ha ! Oh
>> yeah, we are headed there.
>>
>
>When it comes to the issue of "pre-existing conditions" a single payer
>system _would_ fix it.

Only if the politicans who create it agrew that it should fix it. If
the government is running it it is going to be dominated by politics,
just like everything else the government runs.

I want to see the government make Medicare and Medicaid both work and
work efficiently. If they can't do that then why should the rest of
us suffer from their incompetence?

[Leif Roar Moldskred]

In rec.arts.sf.written J. Clarke <jclarke...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Aug 2021 01:11:55 -0500, Leif Roar Moldskred
> <le...@huldreheim.Home> wrote:
>>
>>When it comes to the issue of "pre-existing conditions" a single payer
>>system _would_ fix it.
>
> Only if the politicans who create it agrew that it should fix it.

No. With a single-payer system there are no pre-existing conditions
because there are no insurance agreements for conditions to be "pre"
to.

"Pre-existing conditions" is only a concern when dealing with health
insurance. In a single-payer system there is no health insurance (at
least, health insurance is not an _important_ factor.) So, no
'pre-existing conditions'.

--
Leif Roar Moldskred
Words _do_ mean things, you know.

[Scott Lurndal]

They do work efficiently. Much more efficiently than the
private system currently in place (2% overhead for medicare
vs 13+% (and much higher before the PP-ACA) overhead for private insurance).

So, using your argument, the private insurers are the incompetents.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2017/sep/20/bernie-sanders/comparing-administrative-costs-private-insurance-a/

[J. Clarke]

On Wed, 18 Aug 2021 09:35:15 -0500, Leif Roar Moldskred

<le...@huldreheim.Home> wrote:

>In rec.arts.sf.written J. Clarke <jclarke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 18 Aug 2021 01:11:55 -0500, Leif Roar Moldskred
>> <le...@huldreheim.Home> wrote:
>>>
>>>When it comes to the issue of "pre-existing conditions" a single payer
>>>system _would_ fix it.
>>
>> Only if the politicans who create it agrew that it should fix it.
>
>
>No. With a single-payer system there are no pre-existing conditions
>because there are no insurance agreements for conditions to be "pre"
>to.

You are assuming that the politicians will set things up the way that
_you_ think that they should be set up.

>"Pre-existing conditions" is only a concern when dealing with health
>insurance. In a single-payer system there is no health insurance (at
>least, health insurance is not an _important_ factor.) So, no
>'pre-existing conditions'.

A single payer system _is_ health insurance. It's just that there's a
single insurer, the government, that can make any stupid rules it
wants to.

[Alan Baker]

On 2021-08-18 7:26 a.m., J. Clarke wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Aug 2021 01:11:55 -0500, Leif Roar Moldskred
> <le...@huldreheim.Home> wrote:
>
>> In rec.arts.sf.written Lynn McGuire <lynnmc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Pearls Before Swine: Pre-existing Condition
>>> https://www.gocomics.com/pearlsbeforeswine/2021/08/17
>>>
>>> And people think that Single Payer is going to fix all this. Ha ! Oh
>>> yeah, we are headed there.
>>>
>>
>> When it comes to the issue of "pre-existing conditions" a single payer
>> system _would_ fix it.
>
> Only if the politicans who create it agrew that it should fix it. If
> the government is running it it is going to be dominated by politics,
> just like everything else the government runs.

Show any place in the world where they don't agree.

>
> I want to see the government make Medicare and Medicaid both work and
> work efficiently. If they can't do that then why should the rest of
> us suffer from their incompetence?

Why should the rest of you suffer so that medical insurance companies
can make billions?

[Alan Baker]

On 2021-08-18 7:51 a.m., J. Clarke wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Aug 2021 09:35:15 -0500, Leif Roar Moldskred
> <le...@huldreheim.Home> wrote:
>
>> In rec.arts.sf.written J. Clarke <jclarke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 18 Aug 2021 01:11:55 -0500, Leif Roar Moldskred
>>> <le...@huldreheim.Home> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> When it comes to the issue of "pre-existing conditions" a single payer
>>>> system _would_ fix it.
>>>
>>> Only if the politicans who create it agrew that it should fix it.
>>
>>
>> No. With a single-payer system there are no pre-existing conditions
>> because there are no insurance agreements for conditions to be "pre"
>> to.
>
> You are assuming that the politicians will set things up the way that
> _you_ think that they should be set up.

You keep failing to show any place where it has been set up as you suggest.

>
>> "Pre-existing conditions" is only a concern when dealing with health
>> insurance. In a single-payer system there is no health insurance (at
>> least, health insurance is not an _important_ factor.) So, no
>> 'pre-existing conditions'.
>
> A single payer system _is_ health insurance. It's just that there's a
> single insurer, the government, that can make any stupid rules it
> wants to.

And yet, you cannot show this actually happening.

[Jonathan]

Ya those without health insurance should just continue
to go-crawl-into-a-corner-and-die.

Health insurance? What do these spoiled Americans
gonna want next?, jobs, food and shelter?

AND health insurance too? The Horror!

What's this country coming to when you can't stick it
to the poor and sick anymore?

In 2018 there were 18.2 million fewer uninsured people
in the U.S. than when the ACA became law.
https://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/issue-briefs/2019/aug/who-are-remaining-uninsured-and-why-do-they-lack-coverage



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when he dictated his 1925 book Mein Kampf, to describe the use of a lie
so *colossal* that no one would believe that someone "could have the
impudence to distort the truth so infamously."
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[Paul S Person]

On Tue, 17 Aug 2021 13:48:25 -0500, Lynn McGuire
<lynnmc...@gmail.com> wrote:

Ignoring, of course, the ACA ban on "pre-existing conditions".
--
"I begin to envy Petronius."
"I have envied him long since."

[Paul S Person]

Then you shouldn't have any problem with Medicare being opened up to
everyone. Being so inefficient and restrictive, it would, of course,
be out-competed by the insurance companies competing with it.

Medicaid is something else entirely. For one thing, the States
administer it, so the efficiency varies.