Peter Serafinowicz Knows You Loved The Other Ticks But He Deserves a Chance, Too

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Starting today, fans of the Tick will finally get to dive into the
character’s newest TV revival, courtesy of Amazon. The lead role on The
Tick is being played by British actor Peter Serafinowicz, who’s well
aware of how beloved previous iterations were. He’s gamely focused on
bringing something new to his performance, though... even if it means
stealing from his kids.

When I saw Serafinowicz at the Tick panel at San Diego Comic-Con last
month, he said that, along with the oeuvre of the late, great Adam
West, he’s also trying to channel the declamatory affect of a 1960s
American top-40 radio host. The anecdote, coupled with his sudden shift
into that style of delivery, made me Iaugh and I found Serafinowicz to
be gently funny and reflective when I talked to him on the phone last
week. In the edited and condensed version of the conversation that
follows, Serafinowicz spoke about the other inspirations he drew from,
what it took for him to sign on to the show, and the kinds of comics he
read as a younger man.

** SPOILER ALERT **

https://youtu.be/GiFF18KblJ0

io9: I haven’t read many of the interviews you’ve done for the series,
so forgive me for asking a question I’m sure you’ve heard a lot: What
do you feel like are the big differences between your performance and
what Patrick Warburton did in the previous live-action version?

Peter Serafinowicz: You know, I haven’t seen Patrick’s version. I’ve
seen a tiny clip on YouTube, once while cleaning. And I just thought,
“I cannot watch this because it’s so funny and endearing and sweet. I
can’t allow this to influence my performance.” Right?
[Creator/executive producer] Ben [Edlund] wanted me to do my own take
on it. And that’s what I wanted to do as well. And so I couldn’t. But
you know—even having said that, even watching that 30-second clip—that
still definitely influenced me in some way. So, I don’t know. I’ll
watch them, I guess; I do know Patrick’s take was so beloved and I just
hope I don’t disappoint people.

There is a kind of uniformity of thematics about the Tick that stays
the same no matter who’s playing it, whether it’s Townsend Coleman—the
voice actor from the cartoon—or Patrick, or you. I feel like he has
this unironic clarity of purpose. He’s almost child-like. Where do you
go to channel that?

Serafinowicz: I agree that he’s child-like and certainly Ben would
agree. I just did some ADR for some of the later episodes just a few
days ago, and I definitely noticed a theme where—it kind of put me
aback—the Tick becomes sort of existential. The Tick’s story over the
whole series is that he starts to question why he’s here. If you’re up
to episode four, that’s about where it happens. He kind of becomes
self-aware, and realizes he doesn’t know where he came from. And he has
no memory of anything before, like, a few days ago.

...I would say to people, you definitely don’t need to be a
superhero fan to enjoy this show. I don’t think it’s even
about superheroes, really. It’s just about people.

That scene was surprisingly touching.

Serafinowicz: Yeah. I found a lot of it very touching and quite
sentimental, as well, in a pure sense and not schmaltzy. Some of it’s
very sad, you know? But things get balanced with optimism. There was
one line that I saw in a scene of a later episode— it hasn’t been
finished yet—but when I heard it, I realized I was doing my son and
daughter, who are 10 and seven, respectively. I copied their delivery.
I can’t remember what it was, but Tick was upset about something.

For the Tick to be upset—and you know from being a fan of the
character—that doesn’t really happen. And when it does, he gets really
upset. When that scene came up and that delivery came up, it really
surprised me. I cribbed from my own children. And it’s pretty terrible,
really. I’m like stealing from them, you know?

I have a six and-a-half year old. And they speak in this kind of
declamatory way sometimes. Just this morning, my daughter was like,
“Daddy? Can I take my Pokémon cards to camp?” I was like, “Okay.” And
the next thing she says is, “The boys usually gather at the table, but
today there’s going to be somebody new—and that’s going to be me.” And
I’m like, are you kidding me with this dramatic foreshadowing dialogue?

Serafinowicz: Wow. Great. Well good for her! Good. For. Her. I’m so
pleased she sounds so confident.

Part of my amazement is because she’s still unaware of the perceptions
and complications—like the whole “girls don’t play games” thing. And
it’s something also very true of the Tick. When he was giving a
monologue about secret identities, he basically says, “Yeah, I just
want to be a superguy 24/7.” I thought that was really interesting.

Serafinowicz: You know, there’s a thing that happens. I think, at the
beginning, when they were starting to write the series. It’s like,
“Okay, there’s like 12 episodes.” And Tick is… you could describe him
as kind of two-dimensional, really. You know? So if you’re going to
watch a show about him, the character has to develop. The character
can’t remain the same. How do you do that and still remain the Tick?

I think they really achieved that, actually, because he does develop,
but he also remains the same. And I don’t want to give anything away
but he does that to my satisfaction, anyway. That was probably the
biggest concern of mine. The “how?” of it. Although there are
superheroes that exist in this world, he’s like this cartoon character
in a real world, right? But this world of the Tick is no more bizarre,
really, than the world we live in right now, in many ways.

Yeah, like when he shows up at the house for the party...

Serafinowicz: Yeah. How does this character develop within this world,
and how do you change? He has to change. Otherwise, it becomes a joke,
or a sketch, or a skit. But he definitely does. And I love that about
the show. He kind of changes and grows but is still exactly the same,
somehow. It was a tough thing for Ben [Edlund] and [co-executive
producer] David Fury to tackle. It was a big problem they had to solve
really early on, and I think they did it really, really well. And I’m
so pleased with how it turned out.

Obviously, the show is deconstructing the superhero genre. Can you let
yourself be aware of the deconstruction while you’re playing the part?
Because the Tick is so unaware of how anomalous he is.

Serafinowicz: Well, I suppose I’m sort of aware of some of it, you
know, as an actor. In a certain way, he’s quite easy to play. Because
he’s got very simple motivations, simple drives. He’s not that complex,
really. As far as like the whole tropes of superhero (superheroism?),
I’m not like a big superhero buff—I don’t go out and watch all the
Marvel and DC movies. I’ve seen a lot of these things over the years,
but I’m not like a big comic book nerd.

I’m more of like a Bizarro World kind of fan. Like, when I was a kid,
one of my favorite comics was Howard the Duck. And I guess that was
deconstructing those tropes, and I probably wasn’t even aware of it,
you know? And I would also say I don’t really think this show is about
superheroes. You certainly don’t have to be a fan of the genre to enjoy
it. The whole superhero thing has become so ubiquitous; it doesn’t
really matter. I guess it’s like Game Of Thrones; people who watch that
aren’t all into the whole fantasy genre. They’re not all into Tolkien.
Which I’m not super into, either. But I love that show. I love it.

In fact, it was the [fantasy] thing that made me resist the show. I
thought it was kind of silly. Which, of course, it is. But once you’ve
gotten into it, you’re like, “It’s one of the best things humans have
ever created.” So, yes, I would say to people, you definitely don’t
need to be a superhero fan to enjoy this show. I don’t think it’s even
about superheroes, really. It’s just about people.

I used to write for Kotaku and I know you used to be a big Dark Souls
fan…

Serafinowicz: I still am, yeah. I still am.

What’s capturing your video game playtime—limited as it must be—the
same way Dark Souls did?

Serafinowicz: Nothing will ever replace Dark Souls. For me, it is the
pinnacle of video games. And I think the people who get it all agree
with me. I love all those five games. The three Dark Souls, BloodBorne
and Demon Souls. I love them all.

I didn’t play a lot of those games, but I dabbled with BloodBorne. That
felt more my speed. There’s something almost contemptuous in that
signature From Software design that I really appreciate.

Serafinowicz: Yeah… it’s got that confidence about it. I like that it
doesn’t enforce a story on you. Because you’re picking up the story of
the world and why you’re there through the descriptions and items and
statues and whatever. It really feels personal, you know? That’s just
one of many, many things I could say about [Dark Souls]. It felt like
everything I enjoyed about video games, ever, was crystallized and
placed into one game. And then with loads of other amazing things
added. But I will say the one thing I’m playing still—kind of a cousin,
I’d say, of Dark Souls—is Hyper Light Drifter. Have you played that?

A bit, right before it came out.

Serafinowicz: I loved the feeling of bewilderment in that game.

It’s so opaque.

Serafinowicz: Yeah, it’s more obtuse than even Dark Souls. It’s like...
you know, I have far less of an idea of what I’m supposed to be doing
in that than in Dark Souls. I think it’s absolutely beautiful. And the
music by Disasterpeace! It was my favorite album of last year, of any
genre. I think it’s just stunning. And that whole game, essentially, is
made by two people. I’ve forgotten the name of the guy... he’s the
creator of the game, but he does all the art, too. [Note:Tthat would be
Alex Preston.] And then Disasterpeace doing the music, those two
people—I mean, I know there are more people involved, but it’s
essentially two people. Two people did this thing. It’s like… a
staggering achievement. I love it.


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