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The Operative

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Jun 20, 2001, 4:35:10 AM6/20/01
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The Internet is frequently cited as one of the reasons behind the
continued decline in comics readership, but could it be that there's
actually a wider comics audience just waiting to be courted through the
vast reachs of cyberspace? The ever-outspoken Rob Liefeld thinks so,
and he explains why in the debut installment of an ongoing series of
guest columns.

http://www.spinnerrack.com/columns/soapbox/sb010618.php

All that and fresh reviews (American Century #4, Cable #94, Captain
Marvel #20, Dead Boy Detectives #1, FF: World's Greatest Comics
Magazine #7, Peter Parker, Spider-Man #32, Superboy #89, Superman
Adventures #58 and Thunderbolts #53) too? Whaddaya waitiing for? Get
on over to ...

http://www.spinnerrack.com

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Christopher Basken

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Jun 20, 2001, 8:38:45 AM6/20/01
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ah, Rob's finally read Reinventing Comics...

Patrick MARCEL

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Jun 20, 2001, 5:19:19 PM6/20/01
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Le 20/06/01 22:33, Vince a écrit  :

> That Leifeld boy is always 6 months behind the times,
> maybe more.

You have to factor in the time he takes to understand something. :-)

Patrick

--
Reason is only a drug, and its effects cannot be permanent.
- Hope Mirrlees -

GrapeApe

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Jun 20, 2001, 6:27:18 PM6/20/01
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>
>If these bozos quit pandering and actually (gasp) worked hard at their
>craft then the entire industry would be better off.

Nope, the reason such things are said about alternate means of distribution is
that hard work is not enough- the past twenty years the industry has been
working very hard, but with such limited vision that they have painted
themselves in a corner.

Franklin Harris

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Jun 20, 2001, 9:33:28 PM6/20/01
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"The Operative" <theope...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>
> The Internet is frequently cited as one of the reasons behind the
> continued decline in comics readership, but could it be that there's
> actually a wider comics audience just waiting to be courted through the
> vast reachs of cyberspace? The ever-outspoken Rob Liefeld thinks so,
> and he explains why in the debut installment of an ongoing series of
> guest columns.

Me on the future of Rob Liefeld:

He doesn't have one.

--
Franklin Harris
Pulp Culture Online, www.pulpculture.net
"It is not I who am crazy. It is I who am mad!" -- Ren Hoek


GrapeApe

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Jun 20, 2001, 10:32:04 PM6/20/01
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>Me on the future of Rob Liefeld:
>
>He doesn't have one.

If he got a job under an assumed name, and could get fed work under that
agreement, I think there would be people that wouldn't even notice, and even
like it.

Carl Henderson

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Jun 21, 2001, 2:20:32 AM6/21/01
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In article <tj2jpu5...@corp.supernews.com>, "Franklin Harris" <fran...@pulpculture.net.nospam> wrote:

>Me on the future of Rob Liefeld:
>
>He doesn't have one.

He needs to take a couple of years off and reinvent his style. Even if that
means taking art lessons. He's got a following, and he's got enthusiasm, and
he's got connections. He could make good comics someday.

He also needs to learn to concentrate on one project at at time.

I've never met the man. However, I saw him at a convention a number of years
back (just before the "Heroes Reborn" books hit). Liefeld was sitting at the
Extreme table talking with two kids (somewhere between 10 & 12) about Captain
America. He was enthusiastic, friendly, and connecting with them.

We need more of that.


--
Carl Henderson rec.arts.comics/rec.arts.comics.misc FAQ
carl.he...@airmail.net http://www.enteract.com/~katew/faqs/miscfaq.htm

Mute The Power

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Jun 21, 2001, 2:35:29 AM6/21/01
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carl.he...@airmail.net (Carl Henderson) digitally declared:

>In article <tj2jpu5...@corp.supernews.com>, "Franklin Harris" <fran...@pulpculture.net.nospam> wrote:

>>Me on the future of Rob Liefeld:
>>
>>He doesn't have one.

>He needs to take a couple of years off and reinvent his style. Even if that
>means taking art lessons.

But he tried that already. Made no difference.

-Chris
__________________________
np: Spiderbait: Mutated Re-Bait

Patrick MARCEL

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Jun 21, 2001, 6:16:22 AM6/21/01
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Le 21/06/01 8:35, Mute The Power a écrit  :

>> He needs to take a couple of years off and reinvent his style. Even if that
>> means taking art lessons.
>
> But he tried that already.

He did??? Could have fooled me!

Patrick

--
I used to be Snow White, but I drifted.
- Mae West -


Mute The Power

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Jun 21, 2001, 9:29:01 AM6/21/01
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Patrick MARCEL <mant...@wanadoo.fr> digitally declared:

>Le 21/06/01 8:35, Mute The Power a écrit  :

>>> He needs to take a couple of years off and reinvent his style. Even if that
>>> means taking art lessons.
>>
>> But he tried that already.

>He did??? Could have fooled me!

That's why I said "Made no difference." But he really truly took a
'hiatus' for over a year, in which he claimed to have taken art
lessons. In his Comics Journal interview (conducted by noted corpse,
Hart Fisher!) he claimed to have piles of life drawings lying around
the place that would stun and amaze Fisher were he to see them....

-Chris
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Patrick MARCEL

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Jun 21, 2001, 10:34:30 AM6/21/01
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Le 21/06/01 15:29, Mute The Power a écrit  :

> In his Comics Journal interview (conducted by noted corpse,
> Hart Fisher!) he claimed to have piles of life drawings lying around
> the place that would stun and amaze Fisher were he to see them....

I'm sure it would stun or amaze anyone.

I wish I could see them, too. Glorious page after page of nude ladies and
gentlemen clenching teeth while making their own necks disappear into their
shoulders...

GrapeApe

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Jun 21, 2001, 2:13:23 PM6/21/01
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> That's why I said "Made no difference." But he really truly took a
>'hiatus' for over a year, in which he claimed to have taken art
>lessons. In his Comics Journal interview (conducted by noted corpse,
>Hart Fisher!) he claimed to have piles of life drawings lying around
>the place that would stun and amaze Fisher were he to see them....

perhaps if they were drawings of funiture architecture background items,
anything not anthropomorphic, I would have been amazed.

Brian Jacks

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Jun 21, 2001, 5:08:15 PM6/21/01
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>From: carl.he...@airmail.net (Carl Henderson)

>I've never met the man. However, I saw him at a convention a number of years
>back (just before the "Heroes Reborn" books hit). Liefeld was sitting at the
>Extreme table talking with two kids (somewhere between 10 & 12) about Captain
>
>America.

There's no doubt he's a friendly guy. I knew someone who ended up meeting him
in an airport, where he was in-town for a convention. He talked with them for
awhile and drew a sketch, which is something some creators wouldn't take the
time to do.

-Brian

Interviews with Eisner, Kubert, DeCarlo, Murray:
Personal stories as told to Brian Jacks -
Appearing @ http://www.silverbulletcomicbooks.com/memorial

Christopher Basken

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Jun 21, 2001, 7:45:19 PM6/21/01
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> He needs to take a couple of years off and reinvent his style. Even if
that
> means taking art lessons. He's got a following, and he's got enthusiasm,
and
> he's got connections. He could make good comics someday.
>
> He also needs to learn to concentrate on one project at at time.

and he needs to realize he's not a writer.

Christopher Basken

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Jun 21, 2001, 8:07:55 PM6/21/01
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> >ah, Rob's finally read Reinventing Comics...
>
> Yeah, but he obviously missed the boat on how incredibly unrealistic
> that book is. That Leifeld boy is always 6 months behind the times,
> maybe more.

really? i wouldn't say incredibly inrealistic, just incredibly
optimistic...

Brian Jacks

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Jun 22, 2001, 3:02:42 PM6/22/01
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>From: Vince vi...@comicinvestor.com-nospam

>My main point was:
>
>Talk is cheap, do something instead of whining!
>

It's a column/editorial. The whole point is to whine.

Jeremy Henderson

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Jun 22, 2001, 6:14:50 PM6/22/01
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On Fri, 22 Jun 2001 10:59:36 -0400, Vince
<vi...@comicinvestor.com-nospam> wrote:

>On 20 Jun 2001 22:27:18 GMT, grap...@aol.comjunk (GrapeApe) wrote:
>
>>Nope, the reason such things are said about alternate means of distribution is
>>that hard work is not enough- the past twenty years the industry has been
>>working very hard, but with such limited vision that they have painted
>>themselves in a corner.
>

>My main point was:
>
>Talk is cheap, do something instead of whining!

Well, a lot of people ARE doing something...they're writing columns
about how to save the comics industry. :-)

Darrell Hiebert

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Jun 23, 2001, 5:17:47 AM6/23/01
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He's probably as good a writer as he is an artist.:)

Patrick MARCEL

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Jun 23, 2001, 2:12:55 PM6/23/01
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Le 23/06/01 11:17, Darrell Hiebert a écrit  :

> He's probably as good a writer as he is an artist.:)

That's cruel and mean.

True, though. :-)

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