This is a quick note to let you all know that I just posted 8 more pieces of original
art at www.theartboard.com.
There are pieces from Spiderman : The Osborn Journal and Rune as well as a bunch of
Evil Ernie Destroyer artwork. There is a really nice full splash page of Adam Warlock
in the Rune pages.
I would also like to mention that I'm having a little sale going on until December
31, 1998. Buy one page and get the next page of equal or lesser value for half price!
To see these pages, point your browser to
http://www.TheArtBoard.com/cgi-bin/search.cfm.
Go to the bottom of the page and do a 'search inventory of:' Jason Moore.
This will bring up all of my listed artwork for sale right now.
Thanks everyone!
Best wishes and Happy Holidays!
Jason Moore
>This is a quick note to let you all know that I just posted 8 more pieces of
>original art at www.theartboard.com.
>
>There are pieces from Spiderman : The Osborn Journal and Rune as well as a
>bunch of Evil Ernie Destroyer artwork. There is a really nice full splash page of Adam
>Warlock in the Rune pages.
>
>I would also like to mention that I'm having a little sale going on until
>December 31, 1998. Buy one page and get the next page of equal or lesser value for half
>price!
[posted and mailed]
Please don't post ads to rec.arts.comics.misc.
This is a discussion-only group; "for sale," "want to buy," and "for auction"
posts are off-topic here--furthermore, such posts are probably a violation of
your ISP's subscriber agreement.
Ads posted to rec.arts.comics.misc can only serve to annoy potential customers
(and you probably don't want to do that). Rec.arts.comics.marketplace is the
group for buying and selling comics and comic-related items.
The charters for rac* groups are spelled out in a set of FAQs posted weekly to
rec.arts.comics.info. These FAQs are archived on the web at:
http://members.tripod.com/~comics_faq/
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Carl Henderson
carl.he...@airmail.net
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For those of you who don't remember, "joooyy" is a repeat spammer. Last week
he graced us with his "MAD, Cracked, & Crazy FS" spam. Unlike many people who
make an innocent mistake and post an ad to the wrong newsgroup, "joooyy"--in
true sociopathic spamboy fashion--just doens't give a damn about anyone but
himself.
And as is typical for his breed, when confronted, he resorts to personal
insults and the eternal clueless mantra of spammers everywhere--"if you don't
like ads, skip them," "just hit delete," "its only a few ads."
"joooyy" let me make this simple for you. Post another ad to
rec.arts.comics.misc, or any other non-marketplace group in the
rec.arts.comics hierarchy, and I'm going to get your shiny new, little webtv
account pulled. And don't believe I can't do it. I'm persistant when
pissed--I've even got AOL to take action against spammers.
So shut the fuck up, read the damn FAQs (availible at
http://members.tripod.com/~comics_faq/), and try to be a contributing member
of this newsgroup, and not a pathetic little spamboy parasite.
Okay?
See, here we have a classic example of some idiot who thinks he can do
whatever he wants.
There is not "room here for everyone." There isn't room here for you,
just for starters. And while it might be easy to ignore you, it will be
more fun for me, personally, to abuse you when you get on people like
Carl who are politely requesting that you restrict your posting to
material that is on-topic for this newsgroup. And when I abuse you, it will
actually be ontopic. So suck it up, shut the hell up, and act right, or
get it right back in your face.
--
Court Philosopher and Barbarian, DNRC http://ezinfo.ucs.indiana.edu/~fchary
GO JESSE "THE BODY" VENTURA!!!! YOUR NEXT GOVERNOR OF MINNESOTA!!!!!!!
"Ipsa scientia potestas est." - Roger Bacon
Mark
--
Mark Schlesinger When criminals in this world appear
schl...@primenet.com And break the laws that they should fear
Typical Boring Sig And frighten all who see and hear
The cry goes up both far and near for Underdog
And you strike me as an idiot with his neato WebTV. How hard is it to
learn how to use newsgroups and follow the etiquette everyone else in
this forum understands and uses? How hard is it to post ads in the
newsgroups we they're supposed to be? How hard is it to get an
intelligent response from some people?
Room for everyone? So it's not out of line to put up posts about, say,
Chinese folk songs, Canadian Foreign Policy of the 1920s, Ally McBeal
fan fiction and Linux programming tips? While you may spend all day
downloading newsgroup messages (broken up only by furtive masturbation
sessions featuring nude photos of Ernest Borgnine, natch) some of us
visit THIS newsgroup because we want to discuss comics not get bombarded
by ads for Furbys.
Please continue to display your ignorance with further posts.
T. Faust
Part of the Problem, Since 1971
Of course, if that were *really* true, this group would be two guys
discussing if Green Latern could kick Superman's ass.
Now you've done it. The Coalition of Copping Carls will deal with you
and all other deviants.
--
Carl Fink ca...@dm.net
"Your brain is actually a fabulously complex computer, which means that
on Jan. 1, 2000, it will stop working and your body will flop around
like a recently caught perch." (Dave Barry, slightly paraphrased.)
>Personally offending you with an
>on-topic ad isn't grounds for account pulling, dunce.
Ah, instant irony.
RTFF. (Read the Fuckin' FAQ.) FS posts are NOT on-topic
in this newsgroup. If you're going to post off-topic posts, do
something on politics. FS posts anywhere but rac.marketplace
tick off even those of us who post off-topic 'cause they like the
conversation.
-- Rob Jensen
=======================================
"I'm a zen-judeo-christian-deist version of Woody Allen on helium."
=======================================
Slandered by the M*owers. Read the FAQ at
<http://digital.net/~gandalf/trollfaq.html>
>If you don't like ads, SKIP THEM!! How fucking hard is this?! Is it
>really easier for you to send these responses and e-mails than to just
>skip the damn thing?! What a bunch of whiners! There is room for
>everyone on here. Carl, go back to what is undoubtedly your old crusade
>of getting TV shows you don't like off the air. You just strike me as
>that type.
>
Except that ads (IE buying and selling) goes against the newsgroups
"rules" - so to speak - there is a specific newsgroup for those and
this is not it -
Actually no - since both are off-topic since there is a DC newsgroup -
nice try though
>Oh, no. I'm going to get it back in my face. What will I do? Gee, I hope
>no one calls me a "lamer", or all of the other really swell computer
>lingo. ALso, Carl, a repeat spammer is someone who has posted more than
>one ad. Since I've only posted one ad...well, you figure it out. And, go
>ahead. Pull my account. Oh, except that I've actually done nothing
>wrong. That might hinder your crusade. Personally offending you with an
>on-topic ad isn't grounds for account pulling, dunce.
>
Look, snotboy, even if you were on-topic in this ng we'd still whup
your sorry posts into oblivion. You think you were on-topic? I've
seen inbred drooling imbeciles with more topic in them than you have.
You'll be begging to have your account pulled by the time we've
(politely) explained to everyone here what a jerk you are.
And we shall enjoy ourselves doing so.
So you can play nice and join in, or you can carry on spamming and get
pissed on. Whaddayawant?
--
"I suggest you enjoy to sing this song writhing your original word." -
Doklands Mafia | http://www.dok.clara.net/ | Read the Complete Clovis
While a GL/Supes debate definitely falls under the rac.dc group, it is
equally appropriate in rac.misc. miscellaneous (adj.) 1. consisting of
diverse things or members 2. a: having various traits b:dealin with or
interested in diverse subjects. Therefore, rac. misc should deal with
diverse topics about comics
Nice try back atcha.
And now this thread has become a perfect example of what most people
don't want to read here.
>While a GL/Supes debate definitely falls under the rac.dc group, it is
>equally appropriate in rac.misc. miscellaneous (adj.) 1. consisting of
>diverse things or members 2. a: having various traits b:dealin with or
>interested in diverse subjects. Therefore, rac. misc should deal with
>diverse topics about comics
Welcome to Usenet, where .misc means "everything else."
--
T. Troy McNemar Tro...@primenet.com
"Yppah syadiloh!"
-Zatanna
Favorite Comic of the Week: KURT BUSIEK'S ASTRO CITY v2 #15
Runner-up: JLA #26
LLL!
>Alleigh wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 17 Dec 1998 19:58:53 -0500, "T. Faust" <fau...@erols.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Mark Schlesinger wrote:
>> >>Ads are not on-topic for this newsgroup. Repeatedly putting off-
>> >>topic posts on a newsgroup IS grounds for account pulling at some ISPs.
>> >
>> >Of course, if that were *really* true, this group would be two guys
>> >discussing if Green Latern could kick Superman's ass.
>>
>> Actually no - since both are off-topic since there is a DC newsgroup -
>> nice try though
>
>While a GL/Supes debate definitely falls under the rac.dc group, it is
>equally appropriate in rac.misc. miscellaneous (adj.) 1. consisting of
>diverse things or members 2. a: having various traits b:dealin with or
>interested in diverse subjects. Therefore, rac. misc should deal with
>diverse topics about comics
>
>Nice try back atcha.
>
Actually if something has an appropriate group ie RACDCU, RACMX...
then it can not be in the misc group - this is for everything that is
not specifically assigned to its own group
>While a GL/Supes debate definitely falls under the rac.dc group, it is
>equally appropriate in rac.misc. miscellaneous (adj.) 1. consisting of
>diverse things or members 2. a: having various traits b:dealin with or
>interested in diverse subjects. Therefore, rac. misc should deal with
>diverse topics about comics
>Nice try back atcha.
Try again Spanky. the 'misc' in rec.arts.comics.misc means that any
subject that does not have it's own group anywhere else in rac. So,
for sale posts are off-topic anywhere but in the marketplace group.
Superman and Bats are off topic because the are covered in the
rec.arts.comcis.dc.universe.
>And now this thread has become a perfect example of what most people
>don't want to read here.
I can see how pointless flamewars with arrogant newbies who have no
clue what they're talking about could annoy people.
Try having some idea about what you're talking about before you jump
up on your high horse next time, ok?
--
Brian Hance - bha...@primenet.com
"I think I've learned the difference between a cactus and a caucus.
On a cactus, the pricks are on the outside."
Former Arizona Congressman Morris "Mo" Udall
First of all, Jackass (since you've abandoned civility), the GL/Supes
post and the "perfect example" post were obviously (to anyone of
rudimentary intelligence) in-jokes, especially since I was a target of
the latter.
Second, saying misc covers "everyting else" is really going to make this
newsgroup *interesting* because, according to your theory there should
be no discussion of: alternative comics, creative issues, DC's Legion of
Super Heroes, the DC Universe, Vertigo comics, elfquest, European
comics, comic "info" (that one sure kills a lot of posts) the current
marketplace, marvel comics, Marvel's X books, comics in "other media,
comic reviews or comic strips.
Woo-hoo! Let the fun begin.
T. Faust
"Part of the Problem, since 1971"
>Second, saying misc covers "everyting else" is really going to make this
>newsgroup *interesting* because, according to your theory there should
>be no discussion of: alternative comics, creative issues, DC's Legion of
>Super Heroes, the DC Universe, Vertigo comics, elfquest, European
>comics, comic "info" (that one sure kills a lot of posts) the current
>marketplace, marvel comics, Marvel's X books, comics in "other media,
>comic reviews or comic strips.
This is discussed in one of the questions in the "rec.arts.comics.misc FAQ"
which was most recently posted to this group and rac.info on December 14th.
It says:
:>WHAT IS REC.ARTS.COMICS.MISC FOR?
:>
:>rac.misc is the catch-all group at the end of the RAC* hierarchy.
:>Miscellaneous does NOT mean "everything", it means "everything else".
:>Anything that doesn't fit in any of the other groups goes here. What does
:>that leave?
:>
:> * Industry -- publishing, distribution, retail, "getting started", etc.
:> * Creators -- general discussion of a writer/artist/etc's work
:> * Comics with no subgroup -- most titles from Image, Dark Horse,
:> Acclaim/Valiant, Antarctic, Paradox, Helix, Archie, Disney, etc.
:> * Anything Else -- art styles, comics & computers, awards, essays, etc.
Also, you're incorrect about the purpose of rac.creative, rac.info,
rac.marketplace and rac.reviews.
>Second, saying misc covers "everyting else" is really going to make this
>newsgroup *interesting* because, according to your theory there should
>be no discussion of: alternative comics,
Alternative comics is a hard distinction to make, which is why you
tend to see a bit of cross-posting between rac.alternative and
rac.misc.
>creative issues, DC's Legion of Super Heroes, the DC Universe, Vertigo
>comics, elfquest, European comics, comic "info" (that one sure kills a
>lot of posts)
Have you ever actually looked at rac.info? It consists of entirely
information posts with no discussion. Discussion of information
posted in rac.info goes into the appropriate group that the
information is related to.
>the current marketplace, marvel comics, Marvel's X books, comics in
>"other media, comic reviews
rac.reviews is for reviews only, discussion of those reviews goes into
the appropriate group that the book is related to.
>or comic strips.
>Woo-hoo! Let the fun begin.
Sure and this oppressive attitude has totally killed all discussion
here. Hell, my server only posted 120 messages Friday and 180
messages on Thursday. All discussion has been quashed by our
oppressive attitude.
Here's a tip, go check out the rac.* general FAQ at
http://members.tripod.com/~comics_faq/rac-index.html and the rac.misc
FAQ at http://members.tripod.com/~comics_faq/rac-misc.html. Learn
something about what you're talking about, then we'll talk.
> Oh, except that I've actually done nothing
> wrong. That might hinder your crusade. Personally offending you with an
> on-topic ad isn't grounds for account pulling, dunce.
asshole,
posting one single ad here is off-topic, and grounds for calling you what you are:
a punk ass bitch spammer. go away, you creepy greedhead mofo. stay away. eat
shit and die, spammer pond scum. your commercial post is prima facie evidence
of your subhuman intelligence, and your continued lame protestations of
innocence are proof that not all butt scum gets wiped away when the assholes
of the world are cleaned.
bug off, and go back to jerking off into the dixie cup your momma craps in.
ronan
Now you see why John Ronan is one of the most valued members of the
RAC Brain Trust.
and why anwar hadij hides behind an anonymous remailer. still in that identity
crisis phase? too bad.
any more "gene colan is dead" type rumors to spread, noseboy? we all miss
your wacky hijinks, and kinda liked you better as mike sitz. oh well, earning
the emnity of losers like you makes my responsibilities in the RAC Brain Trust
worth all the time and effort.
ronan
(who wonders why spammers, and the noseboys who love them, are such sore
losers)
Actually, that's how the newsgroup works NOW. This isn't some
just-made-up rule, it's in the newsgroup charter.
> according to your theory there should
> be no discussion of: alternative comics
Tricky area, because different people have different definitions of what's
"alternative." Therefore, alternative-comics discussion is one of those
things that usually slides by.
> creative issues
No, rec.arts.comics.creative is fanfic, not creative issues. But you're
right, fanfic is inappropriate for this newsgroup.
> DC's Legion of
> Super Heroes, the DC Universe, Vertigo comics, elfquest, European
> comics
All correct.
> comic "info" (that one sure kills a lot of posts)
Since rec.arts.comics.info is a moderated group, you can crosspost stuff
from there to here. That's done regularly.
> the current marketplace...
"Marketplace" in Usenet parlance means "buying and selling stuff." If you
have something to sell or you want to buy something, your post about that
is inappropriate for this newsgroup and appropriate for the marketplace
one. If you want to post general discussion stuff about the current state
of the industry, that goes here. The difference between an ad post and a
discussion post would seem a very basic one in order to get the most out
of Usenet.
> marvel comics, Marvel's X books,
Correct.
> comics in "other media,
No, "other media" means it's stuff featuring comic book characters but
it's not comic books. Like Batman movies or Superman cartoons or casting
calls for imaginary films. That's all other-media stuff.
> comic reviews
Again, that's a moderated newsgroup, so you can crosspost to there and the
other appropriate newsgroup (for instance, if you're reviewing a DCU comic
you crosspost to rac.reviews and rac.dcu).
> or comic strips.
Correct.
You do seem to grasp how it works, but I'm still not sure you understand
why (i.e., traffic flow, Usenet tradition, charters, etc.). Is there
anything else you'd like to know?
- Elayne
--
"Nowadays they call it 'PC,' when I was a lad they called it 'manners.'"
- Dwayne McDuffie
Barring a few misinterpretations of some of the other newsgroups on your
part (which could very easily be resolved by your looking at a FAQ), yes,
you're essentially right. That *is* the way it works. And, you know what?
It works just fine, thanks very much. There's a large amount of on-topic
discussion here, and has been throughout all the years since the original
rec.arts.comics was split.
So what was your point again?
Mike
--
Mike Collins
>>"T. Faust" <fau...@erols.com> wrote:
>> >Of course, if that were *really* true, this group would be two guys
>> >discussing if Green Latern could kick Superman's ass.
>Alleigh wrote:
>> Actually no - since both are off-topic since there is a DC newsgroup -
T. Faust said:
>While a GL/Supes debate definitely falls under the rac.dc group, it is
>equally appropriate in rac.misc. miscellaneous (adj.) 1. consisting of
>diverse things or members 2. a: having various traits b:dealin with or
>interested in diverse subjects. Therefore, rac. misc should deal with
>diverse topics about comics
That may be the way you think it =should= work, but it's not the way it
=does= work. Usenet was set up many years ago with a structure and a set
of rules for how it's set up, and they didn't just evaporate because you
thought of doing it differently.
In general, something that's on-topic in subgroup A is off-topic in
subgroup B. So in this context, "misc" means "everything else"... =not=
whatever it might say in your dictionary.
This is the way rec.arts.comics.misc and rec.arts.comics.[all of the other
groups] were intended to related to each other, it's spelled out in the
charters of the various groups, and disregarding the charters of
newsgroups is usually in violation of an ISP's terms of service and =can=
lead to your account being cancelled.
Folks here are trying to provide you with information and helpful advice,
so the polite thing to do would be to listen... and if you doubt them,
check for yourself.
>And now this thread has become a perfect example of what most people
>don't want to read here.
True. Most people have no interest in listening to someone exercise
willful ignorance in the face of actual information. {smile}
Cheers, Todd
--
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Most recently added: /You Are Here/ by Kyle Baker.
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