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John P. LaRocque

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Apr 8, 1994, 7:14:53 PM4/8/94
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Hero is a publication about comics, but has news on cards, movies, etc...

Issue #11 (may 1994), on page 108, discusses the new Star Wars movie.
Hero has been known to be wrong before, but here is the complete text:

"George Lucas has finished the treatment of Star Wars Chapter One, and
announced that he wants to start production by the end of 1995. He is
also planning on directing either the first or second film. The trilogy
will shoot with a cast of newcomers."

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John P. LaRocque | known as man. Let the attack begin."
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Sioson Ronald Joel

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Apr 8, 1994, 8:01:43 PM4/8/94
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lar...@gaul.csd.uwo.ca (John P. LaRocque) writes:
>"George Lucas has finished the treatment of Star Wars Chapter One, and
>announced that he wants to start production by the end of 1995. He is
>also planning on directing either the first or second film. The trilogy
>will shoot with a cast of newcomers."

This sound sorta right since I've heard somewhere that Lucas wants
to put the first new Star Wars out by the original film's 20th
or 15th (I'm not sure) anniversary

Ronald Sioson

Phoenix

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Apr 8, 1994, 8:44:36 PM4/8/94
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Please don't start this, Please don't start this, Please don't start this.


-Phoenix
(praying a flame war about release dates won't erupt)

The RocketFett Bastard!

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Apr 9, 1994, 2:42:01 AM4/9/94
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In article <2o4ohd$c...@falcon.ccs.uwo.ca>, lar...@gaul.csd.uwo.ca (John P. LaRocque) writes:

>Hero is a publication about comics, but has news on cards, movies, etc...

Hero is a publication dedicated to the expedition of the demise of the comic
book industry as we know it, and figures that it might as well spread as many
false shit-ass rumors that it can before it goes under when the comic industry
collapses at the end of 1994.

*whew* Okay, now that that's out of the way...

>Issue #11 (may 1994), on page 108, discusses the new Star Wars movie.
>Hero has been known to be wrong before, but here is the complete text:

Hmmm...maybe wrong like _every_ time? I thought so...

>"George Lucas has finished the treatment of Star Wars Chapter One, and
>announced that he wants to start production by the end of 1995. He is
>also planning on directing either the first or second film. The trilogy
>will shoot with a cast of newcomers."

This is _false_. The scripts aren't even halfway done yet! Production will
_possibly_ (if they're lucky) start by the _end_ of 1995. The only thing
correct about that is that there will be newcomers starring. Lucas will direct
the first film. He's still up in the air about the second.

> | "The final annihilation of the life form
>John P. LaRocque | known as man. Let the attack begin."
>lar...@gaul.csd.uwo.ca |
> | Imperious Leader

John, I _love_ that quote! Got any more from by favorite big-headed alien?

-Chip

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Tim Klassen

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Apr 9, 1994, 3:58:40 AM4/9/94
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In article <1994Apr9.0...@sarah.albany.edu>,

The RocketFett Bastard! <pc8...@albnyvms.bitnet> wrote:
>In article <2o4ohd$c...@falcon.ccs.uwo.ca>, lar...@gaul.csd.uwo.ca (John P. LaRocque) writes:
>Hero is a publication dedicated to the expedition of the demise of the comic
>book industry as we know it, and figures that it might as well spread as many
>false shit-ass rumors that it can before it goes under when the comic industry
>collapses at the end of 1994.
>
Gee Chip, you got any logical argument to support any of this?

>>Issue #11 (may 1994), on page 108, discusses the new Star Wars movie.
>>Hero has been known to be wrong before, but here is the complete text:
>
>Hmmm...maybe wrong like _every_ time? I thought so...
>

>This is _false_. The scripts aren't even halfway done yet! Production will
>_possibly_ (if they're lucky) start by the _end_ of 1995. The only thing
>correct about that is that there will be newcomers starring. Lucas will direct
>the first film. He's still up in the air about the second.
>

Gee Chip, you got any sources to support this? Or are we supposed to believe the rants of somebody with a really silly sig file?

TimK

John P. LaRocque

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Apr 9, 1994, 11:38:04 AM4/9/94
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In article <2o5n7g$7...@darkwing.uoregon.edu>,
Tim Klassen <tkla...@darkwing.uoregon.edu> wrote:

>Gee Chip, you got any sources to support this? Or are we supposed to believe the rants of somebody with a really silly sig file?

For your information, I don't give my source (Hero) any credibility either.
I was under the impression that - true or false - Star Wars fans like
myself wouldn't mind being let known that at least one media source
claims that "new movies are coming soon" - even if Hero is full of
feldercarb.

You don't like my .sig? Frak!

>TimK


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Douglas Limmer

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Apr 9, 1994, 7:12:31 PM4/9/94
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[words in brackets are my additions.]
>>[Hero] Issue #11 (may 1994), on page 108, discusses the new Star Wars movie.

>>Hero has been known to be wrong before, but here is the complete text:
>
>Hmmm...maybe wrong like _every_ time? I thought so...
>
>>"[1]George Lucas has [2]finished the treatment of Star Wars Chapter One, and
>>announced that [3]he wants to start production by the end of 1995. [4]He is
>>also planning on directing either the first or second film. [5]The trilogy

>>will shoot with a cast of newcomers."

Let's see. I count four statements (loosely counted; [1] & [2] are the
same.). Let's see how many are true...

>This is _false_. The scripts aren't even halfway done yet! [3]Production will


>_possibly_ (if they're lucky) start by the _end_ of 1995. The only thing

>correct about that is that [5]there will be newcomers starring. [1,4]Lucas
>will direct the first film. [4]He's still up in the air about the second.

Soo, let's see. You agree with all but [2]. (You do agree that George Lucas
is doing them :-) How can you use "the only thing correct about that" in your
post? Maybe you didn't read it carefully? Happens to everyone occasionally.
And about [2]: What is the "treatment" of SW1? Maybe they didn't mean
scripts, but plots or something. Perhaps they aren't as wrong as you think,
but were instead unclear.
--
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occasionally BlackRazor at TransformersMUSH

Courtland Funke

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Apr 9, 1994, 8:44:44 PM4/9/94
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In article <1994Apr9.0...@sarah.albany.edu>,
The RocketFett Bastard! <pc8...@albnyvms.bitnet> wrote:
>In article <2o4ohd$c...@falcon.ccs.uwo.ca>, lar...@gaul.csd.uwo.ca (John P. LaRocque) writes:
>
>>Hero is a publication about comics, but has news on cards, movies, etc...
>
>Hero is a publication dedicated to the expedition of the demise of the comic
>book industry as we know it, and figures that it might as well spread as many
>false shit-ass rumors that it can before it goes under when the comic industry
>collapses at the end of 1994.
>
>*whew* Okay, now that that's out of the way...
>
>>Issue #11 (may 1994), on page 108, discusses the new Star Wars movie.
>>Hero has been known to be wrong before, but here is the complete text:
>
>Hmmm...maybe wrong like _every_ time? I thought so...
>
>>"George Lucas has finished the treatment of Star Wars Chapter One, and
>>announced that he wants to start production by the end of 1995. He is
>>also planning on directing either the first or second film. The trilogy
>>will shoot with a cast of newcomers."
>
>This is _false_. The scripts aren't even halfway done yet! Production will
>_possibly_ (if they're lucky) start by the _end_ of 1995. The only thing
>correct about that is that there will be newcomers starring. Lucas will direct
>the first film. He's still up in the air about the second.
>
Do you have anything to back that up with. You seem to have it in for
Hero but I can tell you now, I'd take Andy Mangels information more
seriosuly than some shmuck on the net. At least he works out in
Hollywood which gives him a little more credibility than some guy who
read an issue of Premiere once.

Tim Klassen

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Apr 9, 1994, 9:24:12 PM4/9/94
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In article <2o6i4s$2...@falcon.ccs.uwo.ca>,

John P. LaRocque <lar...@gaul.csd.uwo.ca> wrote:
>
>You don't like my .sig? Frak!
>
Actaully I like your sig. It's Chip's that I thought was silly.

TimK

Gus Lopez

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Apr 9, 1994, 9:45:39 PM4/9/94
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In article <2o5n7g$7...@darkwing.uoregon.edu> tkla...@darkwing.uoregon.edu (Tim Klassen) writes:
>In article <1994Apr9.0...@sarah.albany.edu>,
>The RocketFett Bastard! <pc8...@albnyvms.bitnet> wrote:
>>In article <2o4ohd$c...@falcon.ccs.uwo.ca>, lar...@gaul.csd.uwo.ca (John P. LaRocque) writes:
>>Hero is a publication dedicated to the expedition of the demise of the comic
>>book industry as we know it, and figures that it might as well spread as many
>>false shit-ass rumors that it can before it goes under when the comic industry
>>collapses at the end of 1994.
>>
>Gee Chip, you got any logical argument to support any of this?

Before you put your contentious LogicMan(TM) hat on, you might want to
consider whether Chip meant for this to be interpreted literally.

>>>Issue #11 (may 1994), on page 108, discusses the new Star Wars movie.
>>>Hero has been known to be wrong before, but here is the complete text:
>>
>>Hmmm...maybe wrong like _every_ time? I thought so...
>>
>>This is _false_. The scripts aren't even halfway done yet! Production will
>>_possibly_ (if they're lucky) start by the _end_ of 1995. The only thing
>>correct about that is that there will be newcomers starring. Lucas will direct
>>the first film. He's still up in the air about the second.
>>
>Gee Chip, you got any sources to support this? Or are we supposed to believe the rants of somebody with a really silly sig file?

Tim, he actually has some pretty reliable sources on new movie plans. Have you
considered that his source(s) might not want to be identified?

Gus


as...@pomona.claremont.edu

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Apr 9, 1994, 10:12:14 PM4/9/94
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Gee, plenty of people work in Hollywood, but I believe Chip is a FAR more
reliable source than just about all of them when it comes to Star Wars. I
think he knows what he is talking about. After all, wasn't it Chip who was
able to tell us about the Star Wars figures weeks before they were publicly
announced....in great detail? I believe so. I think Chip is far from
being a so-called "schmuck."


Now, Hero was able to print a story with information that has been well known
for quite a while now, and they still screwed it up.


Not very impressive,

-Aditya Sood

Phoenix

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Apr 10, 1994, 3:09:45 PM4/10/94
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In article <0097CB64...@pomona.claremont.edu> as...@pomona.claremont.edu writes:
[snip petty trash, as well as witty insight, and some drivel too]
[so you didn't miss much]

>Gee, plenty of people work in Hollywood, but I believe Chip is a FAR more
>reliable source than just about all of them when it comes to Star Wars. I
>think he knows what he is talking about. After all, wasn't it Chip who was
>able to tell us about the Star Wars figures weeks before they were publicly
>announced....in great detail? I believe so. I think Chip is far from
>being a so-called "schmuck."
>
>
>Now, Hero was able to print a story with information that has been well known
>for quite a while now, and they still screwed it up.
>
>
>Not very impressive,
>
>-Aditya Sood

I knew this would happen when I saw the first post, but as long as has I
will do my best to join the fun!

I have seen the outcome of one or two of chips posts before, and i have
seen the outcoem of some of Heros "previews" before.

That, compared to my sources in the movie biz, (of which there are many,
will let me say this one statement guilt free:
"LISTEN TO CHIP"
he has gotcha on this one!


-Phoenix

Martin Thurn

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Apr 10, 1994, 9:24:26 PM4/10/94
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I don't see anything wrong in the HERO article (the paragraph that
was posted). What the hell is a "treatment"? Yeah, George scribbled
some notes in his diary ten years ago. That's his treatment for the
first episode. The rest of the "info" is exactly what the Lucasfilm
spokeswoman said in Variety last month.
Let's all get off each others' backs, shall we?
And Chip, if you really want to be my understudy, you'd sure the
hell better stop posting when you're drunk! ;-)

--
- - Martin Thurn (thu...@osu.edu)
- - editor, The Star Wars Collector (bimonthly newsletter)

Tim Klassen

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Apr 11, 1994, 2:40:06 PM4/11/94
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In article <1994Apr10.0...@sol.UVic.CA>, lo...@ursamajor.uucp (Gus
Lopez) wrote:
> >>This is _false_. The scripts aren't even halfway done yet! Production will
> >>_possibly_ (if they're lucky) start by the _end_ of 1995. The only thing
> >>correct about that is that there will be newcomers starring. Lucas will direct
> >>the first film. He's still up in the air about the second.
> >>
> >Gee Chip, you got any sources to support this? Or are we supposed to believe the rants of somebody with a really silly sig file?
>
> Tim, he actually has some pretty reliable sources on new movie plans. Have you
> considered that his source(s) might not want to be identified?

Since I was reading this thread on RACM I din't know who Chip was or that
he had good sources. Now that I know that I apologize. But anyways,
unsourced material tends to be a problem on RACM and is an invitation to a
flame.

--
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GREGORY MARCUS SEID

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Apr 12, 1994, 2:19:35 PM4/12/94
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In article <2o4r97$b...@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> r-si...@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Sioson Ro
nald Joel) writes:
>lar...@gaul.csd.uwo.ca (John P. LaRocque) writes:
>>"George Lucas has finished the treatment of Star Wars Chapter One, and
>>announced that he wants to start production by the end of 1995. He is
>>also planning on directing either the first or second film. The trilogy
>>will shoot with a cast of newcomers."
>
>This sound sorta right since I've heard somewhere that Lucas wants
>to put the first new Star Wars out by the original film's 20th
>or 15th (I'm not sure) anniversary
>
>Ronald Sioson

---> Besides the fact that Lucas *himself* (on Entertainment Tonight) implied
they'd be released on 1997, check out rec.arts.sf.starwars and ask for Aditya
Sood -- "keeper of the New Movies FAQ", and one hell of a nice person. ;)
Don't go spreading rumours from Hero.

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| "That there is one damn fine coat you're wearing..." | gm...@lehigh.edu |
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GREGORY MARCUS SEID

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Apr 12, 1994, 5:28:42 PM4/12/94
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Tim Klassen wrote:
>Gee Chip, you got any sources to support this? Or are we supposed to believe
>the rants of somebody with a really silly sig file?

---> He may not have the best manners when he writes, but he did write the
closest thing to the truth (that anyone *not* working in ILM can know). As I
said before: You want the answer? Check out re.arts.sf.starwars and look for
Aditya Sood. If her New Movies FAQ is no longer posted, then ask her (or
someone else) for it.

The Saint

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Apr 15, 1994, 9:18:15 AM4/15/94
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A friend who works at Industrial Light and Magic sent me a
cassette (audio) of what will be the trailer for the film, which
will be out in 1995, according to the ILM production schedule as
of March 26th.

Before everyone asks, I *CAN NOT* make any duplicates
because ... Well ... because I promised I wouldn't. He gave me the
tape as a gift for my nephew, who makes all you SW fans out there
pale in comparison in terms of fandom.

But, the pro-tech sheet that came with the tape clearly
indicates that the movie will be out in 1995. I'm supposed to be
getting a preliminary video cassette of plotting shoots sometime
in July. Can't make any promises, though.


====================================================
"In 1994, I'll be back with my regular,
controversial, pissy attitude."
Todd McFarlane
Nov. 1993 - E.G.O.*
====================================================
Gary St. Lawrence The Saint sa...@ctron.com

John A. Kilpatrick

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Apr 15, 1994, 3:38:26 PM4/15/94
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Well, then, can you give us the TEXT of the trailer? That would be kewl...
i.e. music, and words and stuff.

(Gawd, if Williams dies for some reason, the trilogy will end...I can't imagine
a SW movie with anything but a John Williams soundtrack.)

Phoenix

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Apr 15, 1994, 4:41:38 PM4/15/94
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In article <2om46n...@ctron-news.ctron.com> sa...@ctron.com (The Saint) writes:
>
> A friend who works at Industrial Light and Magic sent me a
>cassette (audio) of what will be the trailer for the film, which
>will be out in 1995, according to the ILM production schedule as
>of March 26th.
>
uh yeah right, whatever
NOT

-phoenix


David Halsted on an Amiga 2000

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Apr 15, 1994, 7:21:50 PM4/15/94
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John A. Kilpatrick (jaki...@hpcmmd03.sj.hp.com) wrote:

: In article <2om46n...@ctron-news.ctron.com>, sa...@ctron.com (The Saint) writes:
: |>
: |> A friend who works at Industrial Light and Magic sent me a
: |> cassette (audio) of what will be the trailer for the film, which
: |> will be out in 1995, according to the ILM production schedule as
: |> of March 26th.
: |>
: |> Before everyone asks, I *CAN NOT* make any duplicates
: |> because ... Well ... because I promised I wouldn't. He gave me the
: |> tape as a gift for my nephew, who makes all you SW fans out there
: |> pale in comparison in terms of fandom.
: |>
: |> But, the pro-tech sheet that came with the tape clearly
: |> indicates that the movie will be out in 1995. I'm supposed to be
: |> getting a preliminary video cassette of plotting shoots sometime
: |> in July. Can't make any promises, though.
: |>
: |>
: |> ====================================================
: |> "In 1994, I'll be back with my regular,
: |> controversial, pissy attitude."
: |> Todd McFarlane
: |> Nov. 1993 - E.G.O.*
: |> ====================================================
: |> Gary St. Lawrence The Saint sa...@ctron.com
: |>

: Well, then, can you give us the TEXT of the trailer? That would be kewl...
: i.e. music, and words and stuff.

He probably could, if the tape existed.


------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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dhal...@clark.net Now maybe if you'd apologize..." - The real Clinton
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Grand Moff Tarkin

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Apr 15, 1994, 9:03:00 PM4/15/94
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In article <2om46n...@ctron-news.ctron.com>,

The Saint <sa...@ctron.com> wrote:
>
> A friend who works at Industrial Light and Magic sent me a
>cassette (audio) of what will be the trailer for the film, which
>will be out in 1995, according to the ILM production schedule as
>of March 26th.
>
> Before everyone asks, I *CAN NOT* make any duplicates
>because ... Well ... because I promised I wouldn't. He gave me the
>tape as a gift for my nephew, who makes all you SW fans out there
>pale in comparison in terms of fandom.
>
> But, the pro-tech sheet that came with the tape clearly
>indicates that the movie will be out in 1995. I'm supposed to be
>getting a preliminary video cassette of plotting shoots sometime
>in July. Can't make any promises, though.
>

Yeah, yeah, and I uhhh... Have a six foot model of the Millenium
Falcon used in the filming of ANH.. Yeah... That's the ticket. And,
uh... I have Carrie Fisher's slave-girl outfit from RotJ... Yeah...

Seriously, how/why are we supposed to believe this?

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"I think so Brain, but where will we find a duck & a hose at this hour?"

Colin M. Chisholm

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Apr 16, 1994, 2:27:56 AM4/16/94
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The Saint (sa...@ctron.com) wrote:

: A friend who works at Industrial Light and Magic sent me a


: cassette (audio) of what will be the trailer for the film, which
: will be out in 1995, according to the ILM production schedule as
: of March 26th.

: Before everyone asks, I *CAN NOT* make any duplicates
: because ... Well ... because I promised I wouldn't. He gave me the
: tape as a gift for my nephew, who makes all you SW fans out there
: pale in comparison in terms of fandom.

: But, the pro-tech sheet that came with the tape clearly
: indicates that the movie will be out in 1995. I'm supposed to be
: getting a preliminary video cassette of plotting shoots sometime
: in July. Can't make any promises, though.

C'mon. Give us some proof before posting something like this. You
can't seriously expect anybody to believe this story, given how rumors
just fly and rocket around. We'd have to be fools to believe every
unfounded rumor. Also, aren't you violating your friend's trust by
posting this in the first place? Your message will reach a *lot* of
people.

Give us some proof. Then we'll talk.
--
Colin M. Chisholm
INTERNET: co...@mcs.com
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Rich Johnston

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Apr 16, 1994, 7:16:17 AM4/16/94
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We can believe this post because it is posted by Saint. End of story.

Respect has to bearned on racm and he has mine. I have disagreed
with him in the past... but if he posts something like this, I believe
him. All you doubters just havent been reading racm long enough.


Saint... can you posts a transcripot please?
..................................
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Creator of Dirtbag- should be out in August.
"Talk me some road!"- Chris Morris, The Day Today.

Max Ross Brenner

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Apr 16, 1994, 1:58:52 PM4/16/94
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I don't believe you.

-max
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power from the old Industrial Era, to establish imperial control over
cyberspace." -John Perry Barlow

dlm...@acfcluster.nyu.edu

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Apr 16, 1994, 12:38:28 AM4/16/94
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Be smart and wait for LucasFilm to announce any real info about the next movies

ZIEGLER

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Apr 17, 1994, 7:24:55 AM4/17/94
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In article <MAILQUEUE-101.940416121559.256@TOWN2> R.J.Jo...@newcastle.ac.uk (Rich Johnston) writes:
>We can believe this post because it is posted by Saint. End of story.
>
>Respect has to bearned on racm and he has mine. I have disagreed
>with him in the past... but if he posts something like this, I believe
>him. All you doubters just havent been reading racm long enough.
>
>
>Saint... can you posts a transcripot please?
>..................................
>Rich Johnston- r.j.jo...@ncl.ac.uk


I'm behind Rich on this one 100%. I've only been here since the start of
the Eternal September, but I was on at the beginning of that whole mess
with the Highs. I have since learned by observation the importance of
reputation on this group and that said rep must be earned. I picture it
like this. If tyg says that Sandman is going to cross over into Punisher
and that Morpheus will be bringing Frank's family back to life so that
he (Frank) can quit shooting people, I would be more likely to believe
this than if say, Bob Mosley posted it. This is because in all the
posts I've seen from Tom, he's conducted himself professionally and
courteously unless really provoked. Bob, on the other hand, has
consistantly been disrespectful and, as near as I can tell, deliberately
presenting falsehoods and half-truths about several folks on the net
who I've exchanged mail with, giving me a little insight into their
personalities.

The whole point to that probably confusing mess above there is that
because Saint has proven himself to be a respected and trustworthy
member of the Net.community, his information can very easily be
taken at face value as being true. As Rich said, "End of story."

Ziegler,
who agrees with an earlier poster, that this September just hasn't
seemed to end, even though he (Ziegler) has never seen another
September to judge this one by.


Mikko Henri Juhani Aittola

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Apr 17, 1994, 8:37:52 AM4/17/94
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According to some guy, who works in Industrial
Light an Magic, Star Wars is propably out in 1997.
I heard this directly from him. He wasn't too sure tough.

/M



GREGORY MARCUS SEID

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Apr 17, 1994, 7:59:04 PM4/17/94
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The Saint (sa...@ctron.com) wrote:
> A friend who works at Industrial Light and Magic sent me a
> cassette (audio) of what will be the trailer for the film, which
> will be out in 1995, according to the ILM production schedule as
> of March 26th.
>
> Before everyone asks, I *CAN NOT* make any duplicates
> because ... Well ... because I promised I wouldn't. He gave me the
> tape as a gift for my nephew, who makes all you SW fans out there
> pale in comparison in terms of fandom.
>
> But, the pro-tech sheet that came with the tape clearly
> indicates that the movie will be out in 1995. I'm supposed to be
> getting a preliminary video cassette of plotting shoots sometime
> in July. Can't make any promises, though.

---> Now, I've never heard the name Saint (sa...@ctron.com) associated with
any type of misleading/false info, but this just doesn't sound right. Lucas,
although he never *said* it, implied -- on Entertainment Tonight, about a
month ago -- that the movies would be out in '97 (the 20th anniversary of the
intial release of ANH). About 2 weeks ago, a newer rumour came about that the
new trilogy is being released in '96 (a year earlier). I don't think the
latter is all that accurate, but Lucas has dropped red herrings before (_Blue_
_Harvest_...). *This* rumour is just too off base for me. Saint, contact one
of two people: skipshay...@intellisoft.com or asood@ ?? . Don't put
much faith in the eMail addresses; I kinda forgot them. However, they're
regulars -- and *very* reliable; contacts in high places -- on
rec.arts.sf.starwars . Check it out.

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GREGORY MARCUS SEID

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Apr 17, 1994, 8:06:42 PM4/17/94
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Rich Johnston wrote:
>We can believe this post because it is posted by Saint. End of story.
>
>Respect has to bearned on racm and he has mine. I have disagreed
>with him in the past... but if he posts something like this, I believe
>him. All you doubters just havent been reading racm long enough.

---> Yeah, as I said before, I know he's reliable *here*. Maybe not
everywhere else, eh? Lucas dropped red herrings before; there are a few
people who've been fired from ILM over the past 10 years (for whatever
reasons; in 10 years, *someone* has to have been fired ;) ) who are quite
willing to screw with the public. Ask David Prowse -- the guy who played
Vader, but wasn't fired -- what he thought the relationship between Vader and
Luke was when he was filming ESB. Read my other post on this, please.

Eric Chastain/T-Rex

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Apr 18, 1994, 4:16:35 AM4/18/94
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Well, i feel a little strange jumping in like this, but as a regular reader
of r.a.s.s (.starwars newsgroup), i will say that the most current rumor
regarding the release date of Star Wars: Chapter I puts it in 1995. The
exact date of May 25th is speculation, due to the prior habit of releasing
the SW movies on the Wed. (?) before Memorial Day. And yes, this rumor was
started _well_ before Apr. 1. I believe it was the result of a press
conference held by Lucas on CNN. This "rumor" is solid enough to have been
incorporated into the rass FAQ. (Enough abbr.'s for everyone?) Can anyone
else back me up here with actual rass posts regarding the issue?

Eric / 'Rex

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Tara Murphy

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Apr 18, 1994, 3:29:19 PM4/18/94
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max...@telerama.lm.com (Max Ross Brenner) writes:

>I don't believe you.

>-max

If the tape is sooooo secretive, then your post probably lost your friend a job at ILM. Nice thought though. And I doubt your nephew could compete with all of us. Especially given the age difference. What did he do, mug older fans and take their stuff?


Rene Borowski

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Apr 18, 1994, 8:52:09 AM4/18/94
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You know this line :

'There are thousands of uncharted settlements (?). I need proof not leads !'

(The Empire Strikes Back)

Rene (bo...@idefix.ph2.uni-koeln.de)

GREGORY MARCUS SEID

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Apr 18, 1994, 6:02:23 PM4/18/94
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>>We can believe this post because it is posted by Saint. End of story.
>>Respect has to bearned on racm and he has mine. I have disagreed
>>with him in the past... but if he posts something like this, I believe
>>him. All you doubters just havent been reading racm long enough.
>>Saint... can you posts a transcripot please?

>I'm behind Rich on this one 100%. I've only been here since the start of


>the Eternal September, but I was on at the beginning of that whole mess
>with the Highs. I have since learned by observation the importance of
>reputation on this group and that said rep must be earned.

---> Wrong, wrong, wrong! I've got confirmation from the entire
rec.arts.sf.starwars newsgroup that it's no earlier than 1996. Don't believe
me? Ask for yourself. Reputations there are much more reliable.

GREGORY MARCUS SEID

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Apr 20, 1994, 1:01:09 AM4/20/94
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Eric Chastain/T-Rex wrote:
> Well, i feel a little strange jumping in like this, but as a regular reader
>of r.a.s.s (.starwars newsgroup), i will say that the most current rumor
>regarding the release date of Star Wars: Chapter I puts it in 1995. The
>exact date of May 25th is speculation, due to the prior habit of releasing
>the SW movies on the Wed. (?) before Memorial Day. And yes, this rumor was
>started _well_ before Apr. 1. I believe it was the result of a press
>conference held by Lucas on CNN. This "rumor" is solid enough to have been
>incorporated into the rass FAQ. (Enough abbr.'s for everyone?) Can anyone
>else back me up here with actual rass posts regarding the issue?

---> ...and that's all it is: a *rumour*. It is -- in all probability --
false. 1997 is the last I heard...from r.a.s.s. I don't know where you got
*your* info, but mine was ASood (no typo).

Pete the Inhaler

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Apr 21, 1994, 8:20:48 AM4/21/94
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Sheesh! Everybody gets upset over a little thing. You'd think we'd all
be grateful for a little info, even if it is a teaser. It doesn't seem
to me like the kind of thing someone'd post of it wasn't true. Of course,
I have been known to make mistakes... from time to time.

-Pete

The Saint

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Apr 25, 1994, 1:49:20 PM4/25/94
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Look, folks, it's painfully simple:

I don't post what I can't back up and I've been on the Net
for *far* too long to want to initiate a flame war by lying about
something -- especially when I'd be the target of the flames.

The bottom line is this: I have the tape, I'll post a
transcript of it if I'm given permission (anyone remember a similar
situation regarding a certain debate transcript?!?) *AND* I and
those who know me/believe me will have a grand old laugh at the
expense of all you newbies and just-plain-ignorant-jerks-who-
sent-me-flame-mail, when what I've said turns out to be true.

Personally ... I couldn't give a Flying Fox whether or
not you believe me. I put the information out there. What you do
with it is your own business. If you want to be foul-mouthed
sycophants, that's your prerogative.

But keep in mind, we're laughing AT you, not with you.

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