JIM SHOOTER'S BATHROO
Omega Man
-=> Quoting Julian Guthrie Castle to All <=-
|> Robert Kelly writes:
|> >James Drew writes:
|> >Jim Shooter's YMCA bathroom fantasy lead to a policy of "There will be no
|> >homosexual superheroes at Marvel." Because of his ONE experience, with
|> >some not-so-nice queers (there are some of those out here), he decided
|> >to run amok with policy.
JGC> What's this "YMCA bathroom fantasy" experience of his?
...as I recall the story, Jim was either sexually harassed and/or sexually
assaulted by three or four agressive homosexual males while he was showering
at the YMCA he attended at the time. Regardless of genders involved, this
sort of incedent does indeed cause traumatic responses, and no doubt Jim
was forever biased against homosexuals regardless of how nice or not-so-nice
they were.
...Jim Drew might have the dates on this one, but did this occur prior to
that little incedent where Bruce Banner "Hulked Out" to avoid getting gang
raped in a prison shower? Who wrote that issue to begin with, anyway?
...In any case, whether Shooter was raped by so-called "Queer Nation" types
is irrelevant in my book. I'd rather see him consigned to a fate far worse
than that - a return to his reportedly aborted career as a manager of a
Kentucky Fried Chicken stand! :-) :-) :-)
OM
Side nOTE: come to think of it, if Jim was so against homosexuality, how did
someone like Ken Clarkson manage to appear as Aric's sidekick? Or how did
Elzy wind up being bisexual??
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Slash Maraud
>...as I recall the story, Jim was either sexually harassed and/or sexually
>assaulted by three or four agressive homosexual males while he was showering
>at the YMCA he attended at the time. Regardless of genders involved, this
>sort of incedent does indeed cause traumatic responses, and no doubt Jim
>was forever biased against homosexuals regardless of how nice or not-so-nice
>they were.
<Shooter wrote an issue of Hulk where Bruce Banner was nearly raped
by a (horribly stereotyped) gay man in a YMCA. The story of his own
rape only came to light AFTER this issue, as Shooter attempted to defend
against the criticism by saying that the story was based on truth.
Whether it's true or not, only Jim knows.>
>...In any case, whether Shooter was raped by so-called "Queer Nation" types
>is irrelevant in my book. I'd rather see him consigned to a fate far worse
>than that - a return to his reportedly aborted career as a manager of a
>Kentucky Fried Chicken stand! :-) :-) :-)
<JIm was not raped, according to Amazing Heroes. I wish I remembered
what issue.>
>Side nOTE: come to think of it, if Jim was so against homosexuality, how did
>someone like Ken Clarkson manage to appear as Aric's sidekick? Or how did
>Elzy wind up being bisexual??
<Perhaps because of his previous story's controversiality? Or maybe he
just changed his opinion in the ensuing years? Or maybe the characters
sexuality made for a good story. I don't happen to like the KKK, but
I once had a superhero whose secret identity was an ex-member, for the
dramatic tension involved.>
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Kevin Maguire
(Omega Man) wrote:
>
> Side nOTE: come to think of it, if Jim was so against homosexuality, how did
> someone like Ken Clarkson manage to appear as Aric's sidekick? Or how did
> Elzy wind up being bisexual??
>
I don't think Ken is meant to be looked on as a sympathetic character,
especially the way he was written in the early issues where he spent
all his time hot for Aric's bod.
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Doug Atkinson
>
> <JIm was not raped, according to Amazing Heroes. I wish I remembered
> what issue.>
>
#143. I've only ever been able to find part II, myself.
--Doug