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cross michael w

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Nov 16, 1994, 2:04:25 PM11/16/94
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In the newest issue of Wizard, Frank Miller said that Legend could very
possibly be making some announcements about new people joining the Legend
group. Speculations, anyone?
I personally would like to see Simonson join up, it just seems
like he belongs to that group, but with the Bravura deal I don't know if
that's possible. But Wizard/Frank made the point of mentioning
"announcements" indicating more than one. As I sit here typing, I'm
coming up with nobody's name to fill in the slots.


Hmmm... Starlin, Grell, Chaykin, Jeff Smith(!?), Giffen, Perez
none of them really seems to fit, or have extenuating circumstances

Michael Cross
"I really need a quote"

Tom Johnston

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Nov 16, 1994, 3:57:46 PM11/16/94
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cross michael w <m-c...@ux5.cso.uiuc.edu> writes:


> In the newest issue of Wizard, Frank Miller said that Legend could very
>possibly be making some announcements about new people joining the Legend
>group. Speculations, anyone?

Dave Stevens -- doing Rocketeer under DH anyway
Bob Burden -- doing Flaming Carrot under DH anyway :-)

> I personally would like to see Simonson join up, it just seems
>like he belongs to that group, but with the Bravura deal I don't know if
>that's possible. But Wizard/Frank made the point of mentioning
>"announcements" indicating more than one. As I sit here typing, I'm
>coming up with nobody's name to fill in the slots.

Maybe some of the Bravura folks will jump to Legend as a reaction to
the Marvel purchase?

I'd be happy to just see some of the other Legends projects started.
The first Monkeyman and O'Brien mini, the mini-series about the boy
and his robot, etc.

cross michael w

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Nov 16, 1994, 7:37:45 PM11/16/94
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Dave Stevens sounds like a really good candidate. I had forgotten about
him. Of course that was probably because he hasn't done _anything_ in
what, two years, three years, something like that.

Michael Cross
"I still need to find a quote from somewhere."

cross michael w

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Nov 16, 1994, 9:40:10 PM11/16/94
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Jason Franzen sent me personal e-mail suggesting that Matt Wagner might
be a possible addition to Legend. Sounds like a good possibility to me.

Tom Johnston

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Nov 16, 1994, 10:39:45 PM11/16/94
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>cross michael w <m-c...@ux5.cso.uiuc.edu> writes:

>> I personally would like to see Simonson join up, it just seems
>>like he belongs to that group, but with the Bravura deal I don't know if
>>that's possible. But Wizard/Frank made the point of mentioning

I just picked up Martha Washington #5, and the pinups at the back are
done mostly by Legend folks (Mignola, Art Adams, ?) but there is also
one by Simonson. This doesn't really mean anything except that he's on
OK terms with Miller and Gibbons. Still, it's food for thought...

Peter A Goodrich

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Nov 17, 1994, 12:40:28 PM11/17/94
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cross michael w (m-c...@ux5.cso.uiuc.edu) wrote:

: In the newest issue of Wizard, Frank Miller said that Legend could very

: possibly be making some announcements about new people joining the Legend
: group. Speculations, anyone?

: Hmmm... Starlin, Grell, Chaykin, Jeff Smith(!?), Giffen, Perez

I'd like to see Giffen, Perez, and Grell get into the act.

Also, I think Matt Wagner would be a good addition.

pete. what is Giffen up to nowadays? besides Freak Force.

David Knott

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Nov 18, 1994, 3:24:51 PM11/18/94
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In rec.arts.comics.misc Peter A Goodrich (go...@titan.ucs.umass.edu) wrote:
> I'd like to see Giffen, Perez, and Grell get into the act.
>
> Also, I think Matt Wagner would be a good addition.

Wagner would seem to be a strong candidate.

> pete. what is Giffen up to nowadays? besides Freak Force.

Giffen is working on Trencher under the Blackball imprint, a company owned by
him and several other creators (although he hasn't released an issue in over
half a year) So he would be unlikely to jump over to Legend right now.

The way I see it, it doesn't really matter who these people publish for, or
under what imprint (Legend, Bravura, etc), so long as they retain ownership
of their work.

dave
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Holy Moley!

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Nov 19, 1994, 5:12:24 PM11/19/94
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cross michael w <m-c...@ux5.cso.uiuc.edu> writes:
> In the newest issue of Wizard, Frank Miller said that Legend could very
>possibly be making some announcements about new people joining the Legend
>group. Speculations, anyone?
>Hmmm... Starlin, Grell, Chaykin, Jeff Smith(!?), Giffen, Perez
>none of them really seems to fit, or have extenuating circumstances

Although I wouldn't put Jeff Smith in there (tho he
is a remote possibility), all the other creators are
writer-artists who have a sufficient enough history
of work and reputation to be in Legends. What
exactly did Arthur Adams and Mike Mignola write in
the past to qualify them as "legends"?

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Richard Link

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Nov 19, 1994, 10:17:00 PM11/19/94
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bel...@aol.com (Belini) writes:
> i've been talking with mike allred and he thinks that it might be a
>possibility as well. i can't wait to see who they choose. as for the
>simonson debate, it probably ain't gonna happen because the bravura guys
>were originally legend guys and they split up into two groups. they were
>all collaborating on the floating logo thing and they just split. they
>are still friends, but i think that it is doubtful

According to Frank Miller in a recent Wizard interview (last issue?),
Legend will only accept members who both write and draw.
This leaves out some, but not all, Bravura guys. He seemed to imply
that that was one of the reasons for the Legend - Bravura split.

Guess he doesn't feel Peter David qualifies as a legend. |-) ?

...Rick

Patman

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Nov 20, 1994, 7:23:41 AM11/20/94
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Holy Moley! <milk...@maple.circa.ufl.edu> wrote:
>cross michael w <m-c...@ux5.cso.uiuc.edu> writes:
>> In the newest issue of Wizard, Frank Miller said that Legend could very
>>possibly be making some announcements about new people joining the Legend
>>group. Speculations, anyone?
>>Hmmm... Starlin, Grell, Chaykin, Jeff Smith(!?), Giffen, Perez
>>none of them really seems to fit, or have extenuating circumstances

>Although I wouldn't put Jeff Smith in there (tho he
>is a remote possibility), all the other creators are
>writer-artists who have a sufficient enough history
>of work and reputation to be in Legends. What
>exactly did Arthur Adams and Mike Mignola write in
>the past to qualify them as "legends"?

And what did Michael Allred do that qualified him as a "legend"?

To me, it seemed the Legend imprint was still a "Dark Horse Spotlights"
their high-profile creators (I know the Legend logo is not indiginous
to Dark Horse, but it seems that way for the present).

I figure Legends should only include creators who have a discernible
body of work that have met with both commercial and creative success.
Some of the present members of Legends are critical successes with
little commercial success (Chadwick, Darrow, Allred). Some
have some success with both (Adams and Mignola, though their output is
not too impressive as a body of work given the time they've been in the
industry). And finally you have the big guns: Byrne and Miller, who
rightly deserve the self-proclaimed title of Legends.

But it's just another marketing idea. Nothing less, nothing more.


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Belini

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Nov 19, 1994, 3:55:43 PM11/19/94
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In article <Pine.Sola.3.91.94111...@ux5.cso.uiuc.edu>,

cross michael w <m-c...@ux5.cso.uiuc.edu> writes:

>Jason Franzen sent me personal e-mail suggesting that Matt Wagner >might
>be a possible addition to Legend. Sounds like a good possibility to me.

i've been talking with mike allred and he thinks that it might be a
possibility as well. i can't wait to see who they choose. as for the
simonson debate, it probably ain't gonna happen because the bravura guys
were originally legend guys and they split up into two groups. they were
all collaborating on the floating logo thing and they just split. they
are still friends, but i think that it is doubtful

Steve

Abhay Khosla

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Nov 20, 1994, 11:05:17 PM11/20/94
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> I figure Legends should only include creators who have a discernible
> body of work that have met with both commercial and creative success.
> Some of the present members of Legends are critical successes with
> little commercial success (Chadwick, Darrow, Allred). Some
> have some success with both (Adams and Mignola, though their output is
> not too impressive as a body of work given the time they've been in the
> industry). And finally you have the big guns: Byrne and Miller, who
> rightly deserve the self-proclaimed title of Legends.
>
> But it's just another marketing idea. Nothing less, nothing more.

I wouldn't say that. Legend is just people who they think are doing
consistently quality work. What does it matter if they are commercial
sucesses or not. While Allerd I thought was a bit soon to be included,
he's doing great work(I wouldn't call hiim a Legend but...) As to
Mignola, ever notice how any time anyone graphic comes along artwise,
they're always called Mignola-esque.

I don't read these guys because they've done alot of stuff. I read them
because what they have done and continue to do is so damn good.
-Abhay
akh...@umich.edu

Larry

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Nov 21, 1994, 1:15:47 PM11/21/94
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What about Baron & Rude? Their work on NEXUS is (please excuse the term)
legendary. Top quality art & story - that seems to fit the criteria.

Oh, and being with Dark Horse already doesn't hurt.


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Daniel J. Pucca

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Nov 21, 1994, 6:43:18 PM11/21/94
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>cross michael w <m-c...@ux5.cso.uiuc.edu> writes:
>> In the newest issue of Wizard, Frank Miller said that Legend could very
>>possibly be making some announcements about new people joining the Legend
>>group. Speculations, anyone?

At a comicbook seminar in Washington, D.C., John Byrne stated that, if he had
his way, he would try and get John Romita, Jr. into the fold before (and I
quote) "those Image guys snatched him away from Marvel."

God, that would make me so happy... I just hope his writing is up to par with
his art.

Seeya,
Pucca.

Robert Fernandez (ENG)

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Nov 24, 1994, 1:30:09 PM11/24/94
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In article <3aeja1$p...@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> tjoh...@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Tom Johnston) writes:
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>I just picked up Martha Washington #5, and the pinups at the back are
>done mostly by Legend folks (Mignola, Art Adams, ?) but there is also
>one by Simonson. This doesn't really mean anything except that he's on
>OK terms with Miller and Gibbons. Still, it's food for thought...

Don't forget that Simonson and Miller worked together on the
Robocop/Terminator miniseries.

Robert Fernandez rfer...@chuma.cas.usf.edu
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