Marvel Art
Glen Eberts
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kingalt
"Glen Eberts" <budd...@netexpress.net> wrote in message
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> Is anyone sick of the crappy art that marvel is putting out?
>
First of all, its all a matter of taste.
Secondly, you'll have to be more specific. The art on the titles I'm reading
is fine (Thor, Avengers, Mystique, Cap, Fantastic Four)
Glen Eberts
all the Manga Crap. My 12 year old son can draw better than that.
What ever happened to the art like that of Neal Adams, Jim Steranko.
Sure there is some good art still out there.
Then there is the cover art. Which most is pretty good. But it usually is
not representative of the art inside.
For the price that comics charge you would think that they could have decent
art in ALL the books not just some.
But you right. Art is all a matter of taste. Its just that it seems that art
is also just a taste for money that some of the hacks are putting out.
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Domenick Bartuccio
following here in the west as well. I personally don't like the style, but I
just don't read Manga books or the Tsunami line from Marvel. I find my
distaste for the art distracts me.
As far as the mini-series go. Baker's art is cartoony, and I for one am
looking forward to his Plasticman. But I don't think his art suited the
story on the Truth.
"Glen Eberts" <budd...@netexpress.net> wrote in message
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kingalt
> For instance Captain Americas Truth mini-series. The Thing Mini-series.
And
> all the Manga Crap. My 12 year old son can draw better than that.
I didnt like the art on any of those either. i didnt buy them. No loss to
me.
> What ever happened to the art like that of Neal Adams, Jim Steranko.
Superstars like those guys are the exception. You seem to think they should
be the rule. Not everybody can hit like McGuire. Not everybody is as smart
as Einstein.
> Sure there is some good art still out there.
> Then there is the cover art. Which most is pretty good. But it usually is
> not representative of the art inside.
I'm not sure why they use the generic covers now. I dont think it helps sell
the books. i think its just lazy. They can stockpile the stuff and use it
when they want. DC doesnt do this.
>
> For the price that comics charge you would think that they could have
decent
> art in ALL the books not just some.
>
There is exactly NO chance that there will ever be a time when you will
personally like the art in every comic that is being produced. If that were
the case then the people that like the art you hate would have NO comics
they would buy. You're expecting too much.
> But you right.
Yes I am.
>Art is all a matter of taste. Its just that it seems that art
> is also just a taste for money that some of the hacks are putting out.
There are always gonna be hacks. There are always gonna be artist you dont
like. Dont worry, be happy.
Bob Samuel
> For instance Captain Americas Truth mini-series. The Thing Mini-series.
And
> all the Manga Crap. My 12 year old son can draw better than that.
> What ever happened to the art like that of Neal Adams, Jim Steranko.
> Sure there is some good art still out there.
> Then there is the cover art. Which most is pretty good. But it usually is
> not representative of the art inside.
I take a quick flip through the books to check before I purchase them.
Especially if it is a title I am not familiar with.
> For the price that comics charge you would think that they could have
decent art in ALL the books not just some.
>
> But you right. Art is all a matter of taste. Its just that it seems that
art
> is also just a taste for money that some of the hacks are putting out.
>
I agree. I am not sure who the masses are that like the manga style. Until
recently I thought manga had died in the '60s with cartoons like "Speed
Racer". It must be like all other bad things including disco music and
platform shoes.....they just keep getting recycled as a new style every 25
years.
Gary Lightfoot
> Is anyone sick of the crappy art that marvel is putting out?
In the most part yes, and I hate a lot of the cartoony stuff myself.
I totaly agree with the guy who talks about the likes of Steranko and
Adams. There was some great artists around then, and I miss it. That's
not to say there aren't any good artists now, but I don't like some of
the styles personally.
IMHO of course. :)
Gary.
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Johanna Draper Carlson
> For instance Captain Americas Truth mini-series.
Kyle Baker does some great work, but I think this wasn't the best match
for the story and theme.
> The Thing Mini-series.
I love Dean Haspiel's work. I think it wonderfully captures the action
and emotion needed for a story about a morose giant rock-man. :)
> What ever happened to the art like that of Neal Adams, Jim Steranko.
They found more lucrative fields to practice in.
Neal Adams, though -- isn't he responsible for the pseudo-realistic
over-muscled look?
> But you right. Art is all a matter of taste.
Exactly.
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"Johanna Draper Carlson" <johann...@comicsworthreading.com> wrote in
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> Neal Adams, though -- isn't he responsible for the pseudo-realistic
> over-muscled look?
>
Hmm I never thought of Neal Adam's characters as over muscled... I think
they are more "realistic"/proportionate especially as relating to characters
drawn today...
I think Jim Lee's current Batman is more muscle-bound than any of Adam's
Batman drawings...
Cheers, SJD
Ralf Haring
>"Johanna Draper Carlson" <johann...@comicsworthreading.com> wrote in
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>
>> Neal Adams, though -- isn't he responsible for the pseudo-realistic
>> over-muscled look?
>
>Hmm I never thought of Neal Adam's characters as over muscled... I think
>they are more "realistic"/proportionate especially as relating to characters
>drawn today...
They're more pseudo-realistic and over-muscled than what else was
appearing at the time.
>I think Jim Lee's current Batman is more muscle-bound than any of Adam's
>Batman drawings...
Definitely.
-Ralf Haring
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the spirit the greater, as our strength grows less."
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Johanna Draper Carlson
> "Johanna Draper Carlson" <johann...@comicsworthreading.com> wrote
> > Neal Adams, though -- isn't he responsible for the pseudo-realistic
> > over-muscled look?
>
> Hmm I never thought of Neal Adam's characters as over muscled... I think
> they are more "realistic"/proportionate especially as relating to characters
> drawn today...
Oh, sure, yes. In part, I was simply trying to point out that any artist
can be criticized, especially those who found a style or inspire a
movement.
But I was also trying to refer to the way that that style delineates
every single muscle, even when it may not be the most realistic
approach. Not "over" in terms of "too many", but "over" in terms of "too
often", sort of.
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The Babaloughesian
> For instance Captain Americas Truth mini-series. The Thing Mini-series.
And
> all the Manga Crap.
LOL. Gotta love a post with the phrase "all the Manga Crap."
> My 12 year old son can draw better than that.
> What ever happened to the art like that of Neal Adams, Jim Steranko.
> Sure there is some good art still out there.
In the X-Titles and Ultimate books.
> Then there is the cover art. Which most is pretty good. But it usually is
> not representative of the art inside.
>
> For the price that comics charge you would think that they could have
decent
> art in ALL the books not just some.
There are only so many good artists out there. They've got to shuffle them
around and make sure that they've at least got enough good artists on books
that are making them money.
M.O.R
Deadpool/ Cable series. Even tho he is only doing covers, this really is a
sign of the dip in overall quality at Marvel.
MOR
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M.O.R
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> It's gonna get crappier, cos they are bringing back Rob liefeld on this
new
> Deadpool/ Cable series. Even tho he is only doing covers, this really is
a
> sign of the dip in overall quality at Marvel.
>
> MOR
>
MOR