ROM
Mastermind
reading this as a child but i don't remember if it was marvel.I remember he
looked like iron-man but i don't think he was human,and he had a very
strange weapon.
Danny Sichel
Yes, they did. Rom: Spaceknight was a cyborg warrior from the planet
Galador.
He was also a toy adaptation, and it's possible that Marvelcorp no
longer has the rights to the character.
JSpektr
>
> Does marvel have (or used to have) a hero named ROM?i remember
> reading this as a child but i don't remember if it was marvel.I remember he
> looked like iron-man but i don't think he was human,and he had a very
> strange weapon.
Yep. He was a spaceknight from Galador. He wore a suit of cybernetic
armor made of "living metal" and used a weapon called the
Neutralizer. It only functioned on Dire Wraiths, sending them to one
of the dimensions of Limbo. Currently, he's back to being human, and
Marvel can't publish new comics with him in his armor, as the
original comics were part of a licensing deal with the company that
made the ROM toy, and Marvel no longer has the right to it.
If you do a web search, there are several good ROM sights out there,
some run by frequent posters to this newsgroup.
JSpektr
Lee Seitz
JSpektr <jsp...@sprynet.com> wrote:
>
>If you do a web search, there are several good ROM sights out there,
>some run by frequent posters to this newsgroup.
Several?
Lee K. Seitz, keeper of the Rom, Spaceknight flame
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Dan Reckoning
>
> Mastermind wrote:
>
> > Does marvel have (or used to have) a hero named ROM?i remember
> > reading this as a child but i don't remember if it was marvel.I remember he
> > looked like iron-man but i don't think he was human,and he had a very
> > strange weapon.
>
> Galador.
>
> He was also a toy adaptation, and it's possible that Marvelcorp no
> longer has the rights to the character.
Oh, yes they did. In fact, a revival was planned for 1999, until Marvel
decided to marginalize themselves further.
Yeah, fire everybody. That'll improve sales.
--Dan
Joe Edkin
Funny this came up in this way. I was the writer developing the new Rom
series with Mark Bernardo as editor (we miss you, Mark!) and Leonardo Manco
as artist. When Mark was laid off, Leo and I figured the series was spiked.
However, we were lucky in that Ralph Macchio read and liked the proposal.
The project IS NOT dead, per se. However, it WILL NOT be a Rom series.
Marvel does not own Rom and as such, is not interested in pursuing a Rom
series at this time. Leo and I had completely reinterpreted the character,
not ignoring what had gone before, but putting an entirely new spin on it.
It would have been really cool.
However, as Marvel is not interested in moving forward with the project as
"Rom: Space Knight," Ralph asked me to revamp the concept and make it an
entirely new character. It does mean that we've lost the histroy we were
drawing upon, but on the other hand, we're free to go in any direction we
choose and as we'd already completely rethough the original concept, it
wasn't hard to make it completely our own. I think we have some cool ideas
here and I wish you could see the design work Leo has done. It really
kicks.
The project is on hold at this time as Marvel/Toy Biz firms up their
publishing plan.
Wish us luck!
Joe Edkin
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Dan Reckoning
>
> Dan Reckoning wrote in message:
> >Oh, yes they did. In fact, a revival was planned for 1999, until Marvel
> >decided to marginalize themselves further.
>
> Funny this came up in this way. I was the writer developing the new Rom
> series with Mark Bernardo as editor (we miss you, Mark!) and Leonardo Manco
> as artist. When Mark was laid off, Leo and I figured the series was spiked.
> However, we were lucky in that Ralph Macchio read and liked the proposal.
> The project IS NOT dead, per se. However, it WILL NOT be a Rom series.
> Marvel does not own Rom and as such, is not interested in pursuing a Rom
> series at this time. Leo and I had completely reinterpreted the character,
> not ignoring what had gone before, but putting an entirely new spin on it.
> It would have been really cool.
Benny R. Powell, Jim Calafiore, and Peter Palmiotti would have been very
surprised about that, since THEY were doing the new Rom series before
Mark and Tim Tuohy got canned.
> However, as Marvel is not interested in moving forward with the project as
> "Rom: Space Knight," Ralph asked me to revamp the concept and make it an
> entirely new character. It does mean that we've lost the histroy we were
> drawing upon, but on the other hand, we're free to go in any direction we
> choose and as we'd already completely rethough the original concept, it
> wasn't hard to make it completely our own. I think we have some cool ideas
> here and I wish you could see the design work Leo has done. It really
> kicks.
>
HUH??
--Dan
Joe Edkin
>Joe Edkin wrote:
>>
>> Dan Reckoning wrote in message:
>
>> >Oh, yes they did. In fact, a revival was planned for 1999, until Marvel
>> >decided to marginalize themselves further.
>>
>> Funny this came up in this way. I was the writer developing the new Rom
>> series with Mark Bernardo as editor (we miss you, Mark!) and Leonardo
Manco
>> as artist. When Mark was laid off, Leo and I figured the series was
spiked.
>> However, we were lucky in that Ralph Macchio read and liked the proposal.
>> The project IS NOT dead, per se. However, it WILL NOT be a Rom series.
>> Marvel does not own Rom and as such, is not interested in pursuing a Rom
>> series at this time. Leo and I had completely reinterpreted the
character,
>> not ignoring what had gone before, but putting an entirely new spin on
it.
>> It would have been really cool.
>
>Benny R. Powell, Jim Calafiore, and Peter Palmiotti would have been very
>surprised about that, since THEY were doing the new Rom series before
>Mark and Tim Tuohy got canned.
They'd probably be just as surprised as I was to hear about their version of
it. *sigh* More bizarre communication things at Marvel. (Anyone who
followed my posts about the Acolytes in Quicksilver will know exactly what I
mean.) All I know was that Mark Bernardo asked me to write a proposal.
Leonardo Manco had done design sketches. Our proposal was on the table when
Mark was laid off. I don't know who the editor for the
Powell/Califiore/Palmiotti version was, but my proposal was commissioned.
Perhaps Mark wasn't aware another editor was developing a Rom series. I
certainly knew nothing about it! Interestingly enough, Ralph Macchio, the
new editor with whom I am now working has not mentioned any other Rom
project in development.
bilbo
<3650E124...@sprynet.com>...
> Yep. He was a spaceknight from Galador.
> He wore a suit of cybernetic armor
Actually, I don't think he wore a "suit". More like his mind was
transferred into a robot body to make a tougher warrior. I know one of the
comics dealt with his actaul hibernating humanoid body being threatened
with destruction, which would have left him a robot warrior forever.
Lee Seitz
Close. Rom was a cyborg (CYBernetic ORGanism). A cyborg is a
combination of living tissue and mechanical/electronic components.
Large portions of Rom's body (including his skull, brain, lungs,
heart, and most of his skeleton) were grafted into spaceknight armor.
The portions that were not grafted into the suit were put into
storage, so to speak, so that he could be returned to his normal human
form when his service was done.
(Note the previous poster *did* specify his armor was cybernetic.)
Anwar Hadij
>JSpektr <jsp...@sprynet.com> wrote in article
><3650E124...@sprynet.com>...
>> Yep. He was a spaceknight from Galador.
>> He wore a suit of cybernetic armor
>
>
>Actually, I don't think he wore a "suit". More like his mind was
>transferred into a robot body to make a tougher warrior. I know one of the
>comics dealt with his actaul hibernating humanoid body being threatened
>with destruction, which would have left him a robot warrior forever.
Now really, would that have been so bad?
JSpektr
>
> JSpektr <jsp...@sprynet.com> wrote in article
> <3650E124...@sprynet.com>...
> > Yep. He was a spaceknight from Galador.
> > He wore a suit of cybernetic armor
>
> Actually, I don't think he wore a "suit". More like his mind was
> transferred into a robot body to make a tougher warrior. I know one of the
> comics dealt with his actaul hibernating humanoid body being threatened
> with destruction, which would have left him a robot warrior forever.
His body was partially robotic, and partially his own flesh. Through
Galadorian science, his nervous system, brain, and vital organs were
fused into a suit of robotic armor. As a result, he could feel with
the metal skin of the armor as if it was organic skin, felt pain
when the armor was damaged, and generally functioned as if the armor
was his real body. The process also made the armor "alive" in some
unspecified way, allowing him to do things like prevent the Metal
Master and the Mad Thinker from controlling it.
The "left-over" parts of his, and all other Space Knights' bodies
were preserved in cryogenic capsules on Galador. For whatever
reason, they needed these parts to be restored to human form (why
the Galadorians couldn't clone new skin, bones, and muscles I don't
know).
As I recall, Rom's organic remains were in fact destroyed at some
point, but he became human again permanently through some loophole
or special circumstance. I seem to remember one of the other
Knights, possibly Destroyer, giving up his own humanity to restore
Rom. Can anyone back this up?
Later,
JSpektr - you know, I've got a rush job on a set of concept sketches
early tomorrow, and yet here I am writing about obscure comic book
characters. Ah, the priorities of a professional artist...
Scott J. Promish
>bilbo wrote:
>As I recall, Rom's organic remains were in fact destroyed at some
>point, but he became human again permanently through some loophole
>or special circumstance. I seem to remember one of the other
>Knights, possibly Destroyer, giving up his own humanity to restore
>Rom. Can anyone back this up?
Wasn't he cloned by Quasimodo? It was when he was in Russia and shortly
afterwards encountered the Gargoyle (not the Defender, but the guy who later
inherited the armour of the Titanium Man.)
Raggedy Andy
On Thu, 19 Nov 1998, JSpektr wrote:
> bilbo wrote:
> >
> > JSpektr <jsp...@sprynet.com> wrote in article
> > <3650E124...@sprynet.com>...
> > > Yep. He was a spaceknight from Galador.
> > > He wore a suit of cybernetic armor
> >
> > Actually, I don't think he wore a "suit". More like his mind was
> > transferred into a robot body to make a tougher warrior. I know one of the
> > comics dealt with his actaul hibernating humanoid body being threatened
> > with destruction, which would have left him a robot warrior forever.
>
>
> His body was partially robotic, and partially his own flesh. Through
> Galadorian science, his nervous system, brain, and vital organs were
> fused into a suit of robotic armor. As a result, he could feel with
> the metal skin of the armor as if it was organic skin, felt pain
> when the armor was damaged, and generally functioned as if the armor
> was his real body. The process also made the armor "alive" in some
> unspecified way, allowing him to do things like prevent the Metal
> Master and the Mad Thinker from controlling it.
>
> The "left-over" parts of his, and all other Space Knights' bodies
> were preserved in cryogenic capsules on Galador. For whatever
> reason, they needed these parts to be restored to human form (why
> the Galadorians couldn't clone new skin, bones, and muscles I don't
> know).
>
> As I recall, Rom's organic remains were in fact destroyed at some
> point, but he became human again permanently through some loophole
> or special circumstance. I seem to remember one of the other
> Knights, possibly Destroyer, giving up his own humanity to restore
> Rom. Can anyone back this up?
>
>
Samy Merchi
>can you name all the spaceknights?
Well, since I'm browsing thru OHOTMU *right* now, I might as well cheat
and use it here. >;)
Rom, Starshine I, Terminator, Firefall I (Karas), Mentus, Hammerhand,
Javelin (Darin), Astra, Trapper (Vola), Breaker (Raak), Unseen (Unam),
Seeker (Tarm), Scanner (Skera), Pulsar (Plor), Rainbow, Gloriole,
Starshine II (Brandy Clark), Lightningbolt, Heatwave, Dominor.
ObOHOTMU: While browsing thru it, I chanced upon the entry for the
Crusader, who seemed to first appear in THOR #330. A Christian guy who
adopts the guise of the Crusader to fight paganism and ungodliness, he
goes out and fights Thor, and gets beaten by Thor. Am I correct in
assuming this is a tad controversial and non-PC? THOR readers out there,
did the issue of Christianity being cast as the 'bad guy' get raised in
the letters pages?
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Sgarre
> Crusader, who seemed to first appear in THOR #330. A Christian guy who
> adopts the guise of the Crusader to fight paganism and ungodliness, he
> goes out and fights Thor, and gets beaten by Thor. Am I correct in
> assuming this is a tad controversial and non-PC? THOR readers out there,
> did the issue of Christianity being cast as the 'bad guy' get raised in
> the letters pages?
>
You probably should hunt down the issue before making these
assumptions...my foggy memory of the issue tells me more was going on
than is encapsulated in a OHOTMU entry.
Samy Merchi
>> Am I correct in
>> assuming this is a tad controversial and non-PC? THOR readers out there,
>> did the issue of Christianity being cast as the 'bad guy' get raised in
>> the letters pages?
>
>You probably should hunt down the issue before making these
>assumptions...
That's not exactly easy in Finland. ;) Which is why I asked whether that
assumption was correct. ;)
>my foggy memory of the issue tells me more was going on
>than is encapsulated in a OHOTMU entry.
Great.
Lee Seitz
Scott J. Promish <sco...@concentric.net> wrote:
>
>Wasn't he cloned by Quasimodo? It was when he was in Russia and shortly
>afterwards encountered the Gargoyle (not the Defender, but the guy who later
>inherited the armour of the Titanium Man.)
Yes, it happened in ROM #43-45. But the person you're thinking of is
not the Gargoyle, but the Gremlin. He joined the Soviet
Super-Soldiers (Majro Ursa, Darkstar, & Vanguard) at the end of ROM
#46.
Lee Seitz
JSpektr <jsp...@sprynet.com> wrote:
>
>The "left-over" parts of his, and all other Space Knights' bodies
>were preserved in cryogenic capsules on Galador. For whatever
>reason, they needed these parts to be restored to human form (why
>the Galadorians couldn't clone new skin, bones, and muscles I don't
>know).
Perhaps it was the ethics of creating a clone just to get spare body
parts. (See the post-Crisis World of Krypton limited series.)
>As I recall, Rom's organic remains were in fact destroyed at some
>point, but he became human again permanently through some loophole
>or special circumstance. I seem to remember one of the other
>Knights, possibly Destroyer, giving up his own humanity to restore
>Rom. Can anyone back this up?
Rom's remains were stolen by a spaceknight named Terminator. Terminator
was the only spaceknight without any humanity. He had been rescued
from a Galadorian colony exposed to a plague by the Dire Wraiths. His
body died, but his brain patterns were put into a suit of spaceknight
armor. Mentus, who was controlling Terminator, changed Terminator
into a doppleganger of Rom and used Rom's remains to give Terminator
"partial humanity." I think he promised to restore Terminator to
human form using Rom's body if Rom ever returned.
Terminator was killed, with Rom's parts, by Terrax, herald of Galactus
(ROM #26). In a bit if unexplained deus ex machina, Brandy Clark
found Terminator's body in ROM #75 and a golden orb appeared to her.
She took the orb to Rom and when he touched it, his humanity was
restored. I guess Mantlo either just didn't have enough pages in that
final issue to explain it or didn't have enough time to come up with
an explanation.
Lee K. Seitz, keeper of the Rom flame
http://home.hiwaay.net/~lkseitz/comics/Rom/
Scott J. Promish
>In article <733nfp$n...@chronicle.concentric.net>,
>Scott J. Promish <sco...@concentric.net> wrote:
>>
>>Wasn't he cloned by Quasimodo? It was when he was in Russia and shortly
>>afterwards encountered the Gargoyle (not the Defender, but the guy who
later
>>inherited the armour of the Titanium Man.)
>
>Yes, it happened in ROM #43-45. But the person you're thinking of is
>not the Gargoyle, but the Gremlin. He joined the Soviet
>Super-Soldiers (Majro Ursa, Darkstar, & Vanguard) at the end of ROM
>#46.
And the Gargoyle (from way back in Incredible Hulk #1) was his father,
right? I always got the two names confused.
Robert A Gilchick
lettercol or a bullpen bulletins page) revealing that Bill had been severely
injured in an MVA. As I recall, he was either brain damaged, or actually
comatose. Can anyone fill me in on the last decade or so?
Is he alive or deceased? If still living, what is his current condition?
It's clear he has not written any comic books since this incident.
I actually care. I enjoyed virtually every thing he wrote. Esp ROM,
MICRONAUTS, and his take on the HULK (not PAD, but impressive nonetheless.
I won't ever forget IH#250 with the Surfer)
rob (solemn lad) gilchick
Danny Sichel
> Sometime in the eighties, I read an entry in one of Marvel's books (either a
> lettercol or a bullpen bulletins page) revealing that Bill had been severely
> injured in an MVA. As I recall, he was either brain damaged, or actually
> comatose.
Comatose, AND brain-damaged.
> Can anyone fill me in on the last decade or so?
Mm. Not really. A week or so ago I read that Marvel recently tried to
send him a big batch of money (royalties? reprint fees?), but they
couldn't find him.
> Is he alive or deceased? If still living, what is his current condition?
He's still alive. He's awake, and walking and talking. He's not gonna be
writing any comics anytime soon, though - in fact, from what I
understand, he probably won't be writing any comics EVER AGAIN.
> It's clear he has not written any comic books since this incident.
Yes. Very sad.
Compare this to the loss of Gruenwald, for instance.
Michael Thompson
>>I know one of the
>>comics dealt with his actaul hibernating humanoid body being threatened
>>with destruction, which would have left him a robot warrior forever.
>
Well, he had this girlfriend Brandy, and his spaceknight body was missing
certain important parts that he REALLY wanted to have back.........
--Mike Thompson
Danny Sichel
> Rom's remains were stolen by a spaceknight named Terminator. Terminator
> was the only spaceknight without any humanity. He had been rescued
> from a Galadorian colony exposed to a plague by the Dire Wraiths. His
> body died, but his brain patterns were put into a suit of spaceknight
> armor. Mentus, who was controlling Terminator, changed Terminator
> into a doppleganger of Rom and used Rom's remains to give Terminator
> "partial humanity." I think he promised to restore Terminator to
> human form using Rom's body if Rom ever returned.
> Terminator was killed, with Rom's parts, by Terrax, herald of Galactus
> (ROM #26). In a bit if unexplained deus ex machina, Brandy Clark
> found Terminator's body in ROM #75 and a golden orb appeared to her.
> She took the orb to Rom and when he touched it, his humanity was
> restored. I guess Mantlo either just didn't have enough pages in that
> final issue to explain it or didn't have enough time to come up with
> an explanation.
Actually, I believe that that was the Beyonder's doing.
Lee Seitz
Danny Sichel <eds...@umoncton.ca> wrote:
>
>Lee Seitz wrote:
>> Terminator was killed, with Rom's parts, by Terrax, herald of Galactus
>> (ROM #26). In a bit if unexplained deus ex machina, Brandy Clark
>> found Terminator's body in ROM #75 and a golden orb appeared to her.
>> She took the orb to Rom and when he touched it, his humanity was
>> restored. I guess Mantlo either just didn't have enough pages in that
>> final issue to explain it or didn't have enough time to come up with
>> an explanation.
>
>Actually, I believe that that was the Beyonder's doing.
That's been my best theory (an extension of the Beyonder's gift of
wish fulfillment to Brandy, Rick, & Cindy), but I don't believe it was
ever explicitly stated as such. I admit it's been a while since I
reread ROM #75.
Michael Standish
Danny Sichel <eds...@umoncton.ca> wrote:
--Michael Standish
Robert A Gilchick
Michael Standish wrote in message <3666f5ac...@news.mindspring.com>...
>FYI: Bill Mantlo was hit by a car while rollar blading.
That's actually quite interesting since I presume this injury occurred more
than ten years ago. He must have been one of the first roller bladers out
there. I wonder if he was wearing a helmet (I bet not.) Food for thought.
Anthony Isabella
guardian, and wrote an update for COMICS BUYER'S GUIDE.
After it appears there, I'll post it here.
Tony Isabella
http://www.wfcomics.com/tony
Czeskleba
>guardian, and wrote an update for COMICS BUYER'S GUIDE.
>
> After it appears there, I'll post it here.
I've been out of touch with the comics scene for awhile. Why does Bill Mantlo
need a guardian?
Bob Ingersoll
He was in a very bad automobile accident years back and spent
a good portion of the time between then and now in a coma.
Bob