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Chris

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Jan 13, 2002, 2:42:45 PM1/13/02
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...and if so, would that make/class him a cyborg?

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Snot Monster

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> ...and if so, would that make/class him a cyborg?
>

I don't think so, there's nothing electronic about his skeleton. Kind of
like capping your teeth doesn't make you a cyborg.

He's more like a batter dipped shrimp. Ok?

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On 13 Jan 2002 19:42:45 GMT, Chris
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>...and if so, would that make/class him a cyborg?
>

No. In fact Wolverine has always had the claws, and they were covered
in admantium(along with the rest of his bones).

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Chris <OBVIOU...@cflowersDOTfreeserve.co.uk> wrote in
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> ...and if so, would that make/class him a cyborg?
>

I've been reading X-Men since Giant Size X-Men #1, and was always under
the impression that Wolverine's claws were bionic, and that *SNIKT* was the
sound of the claws sliding out of their metal casings. The fact that the
claws broke through his skin, and that his healing factor was needed to
close the wound once he popped them back in, was yet another reason.
Besides, they've been called 'bionic' by the narrator.

Until, that is, it was revealed he had bone claws all along.

Christian Landry

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Which, if you think about it, probably doesn't make any sense....does
anyone know how they work now? Before, when they were "implants",
they were mechanical, adamantium on adamantium. Now that they're
adamantium covered bone, and still work when he didn't have the metal,
I'd guess they move the same way everything else in a body moves- via
muscles. Now how he can keep them sticking out when he drives the
claws into something hard, rather than have them driven back into his
body, doesn't seem very clear. Before it had some mechanical basis-
now it's all supposed to be organic? I don't know....

-Chris C.

Chris

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ch...@pnc-wbi.com (M-Wolverine) wrote in
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> Which, if you think about it, probably doesn't make any sense....does
> anyone know how they work now? Before, when they were "implants",
> they were mechanical, adamantium on adamantium. Now that they're
> adamantium covered bone, and still work when he didn't have the metal,
> I'd guess they move the same way everything else in a body moves- via
> muscles. Now how he can keep them sticking out when he drives the
> claws into something hard, rather than have them driven back into his
> body, doesn't seem very clear. Before it had some mechanical basis-
> now it's all supposed to be organic? I don't know....

Since Origin threw a spanner in the works, its as if he has another mutant
power which gives him the ability to make bone claws protrude from his
hands and stay out till he 'turns them off' again! Its all very confusing
indeed. I suppose if you think of a cat's claw, its claws stay in until it
rleases them, as soon as they grip into something somehow they stay locked
on, but then cat's claws are shaped more like hooks I guess, but so have
some depictions of Wolverines claws - some artists don't draw them striaght
but more curved. Weird, I don't know either...

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Chris <OBVIOU...@cflowersDOTfreeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>indeed. I suppose if you think of a cat's claw, its claws stay in until it
>rleases them, as soon as they grip into something somehow they stay locked
>on, but then cat's claws are shaped more like hooks I guess, but so have

I thought cats' claws swung out, rather than shoot out.

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Chris

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arc...@sfu.ca (Andrew Ryan Chang) wrote in
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> I thought cats' claws swung out, rather than shoot out.

Oh come, lets not get too technical and picky!

M-Wolverine

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Chris <OBVIOU...@cflowersDOTfreeserve.co.uk> wrote in message news:<Xns9196D9A8F30A1...@195.92.195.157>...

> ch...@pnc-wbi.com (M-Wolverine) wrote in
> news:86ac6ac0.02011...@posting.google.com:
>
> > Which, if you think about it, probably doesn't make any sense....does
> > anyone know how they work now? Before, when they were "implants",
> > they were mechanical, adamantium on adamantium. Now that they're
> > adamantium covered bone, and still work when he didn't have the metal,
> > I'd guess they move the same way everything else in a body moves- via
> > muscles. Now how he can keep them sticking out when he drives the
> > claws into something hard, rather than have them driven back into his
> > body, doesn't seem very clear. Before it had some mechanical basis-
> > now it's all supposed to be organic? I don't know....
>
> Since Origin threw a spanner in the works, its as if he has another mutant
> power which gives him the ability to make bone claws protrude from his
> hands and stay out till he 'turns them off' again! Its all very confusing
> indeed. I suppose if you think of a cat's claw, its claws stay in until it
> rleases them, as soon as they grip into something somehow they stay locked
> on, but then cat's claws are shaped more like hooks I guess, but so have
> some depictions of Wolverines claws - some artists don't draw them striaght
> but more curved. Weird, I don't know either...

Which I thought of, and works fine cutting through flesh and the like.
But if a cat hits something hard with it's claws, the (and the claw
and paw was made of metal so it wouldn't break), the claw would be
forced back in; unless of course, Wolverine's claw holding muscles are
stronger than his punching muscles; in which case his arm would bounce
off the target- now I know the claws are sharp, but Wolverine does
have limited strength.....oh, my head hurts...

-Chris C.

tom k

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Jan 15, 2002, 6:31:12 PM1/15/02
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his claws are not so hard to believe.
if you hold a knife and stab someone, with the right amount of "grip"
the knife will pierce the person. consider wolvie's grip to be way
stronger and he can pierce brick now. the muscles grip really hard.
or
possibly the claw move into a locking position(maybe in front of
the wrist, where now the entire lower arm is the claw)sorta like a dog
can lock its jaw. you can use your whole arm as a ram if you keep it
straight.

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Andrew Ryan Chang

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M-Wolverine <ch...@pnc-wbi.com> wrote:
>Which I thought of, and works fine cutting through flesh and the like.
> But if a cat hits something hard with it's claws, the (and the claw
>and paw was made of metal so it wouldn't break), the claw would be
>forced back in; unless of course, Wolverine's claw holding muscles are
>stronger than his punching muscles; in which case his arm would bounce
>off the target- now I know the claws are sharp, but Wolverine does
>have limited strength.....oh, my head hurts...

Can't we excuse this by claiming infinite sharpness on the claws?
In any case, Wolverine often uses slicing motions rather than stabbing
motions.

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kinetic

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"tom k" <to...@nomail.com> wrote in message
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> his claws are not so hard to believe.
> if you hold a knife and stab someone, with the right amount of "grip"
> the knife will pierce the person. consider wolvie's grip to be way
> stronger and he can pierce brick now. the muscles grip really hard.
> or
> possibly the claw move into a locking position(maybe in front of
> the wrist, where now the entire lower arm is the claw)sorta like a dog
> can lock its jaw. you can use your whole arm as a ram if you keep it
> straight.

I don't want to be a wet blanket, but does it really seem that unlikely that
he has claws? I mean, if your willing to accept that Scott can shoot lasers
out of his eyes, you have to accept a little leeway with Wolvie.

~ Jamie West


Andrew Ryan Chang

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Jan 16, 2002, 4:02:35 AM1/16/02
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kinetic <jamie...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>I don't want to be a wet blanket, but does it really seem that unlikely that
>he has claws? I mean, if your willing to accept that Scott can shoot lasers
>out of his eyes, you have to accept a little leeway with Wolvie.

But they're so weird! He's a short guy, and he's got claws
stuffed in his forearms that (with certain artists) are somehow twice the
length of said forearms. How can we *not* lose a little suspension of
disbelief?

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Andrew Ryan Chang wrote:
>
> kinetic <jamie...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >I don't want to be a wet blanket, but does it really seem that unlikely that
> >he has claws? I mean, if your willing to accept that Scott can shoot lasers
> >out of his eyes, you have to accept a little leeway with Wolvie.
>
> But they're so weird! He's a short guy, and he's got claws
> stuffed in his forearms that (with certain artists) are somehow twice the
> length of said forearms. How can we *not* lose a little suspension of
> disbelief?

The length doesn't bother me. How many times has he done the little
trick where he pops two claws and puts them around someone's neck,
threatening to pop the third. Look at a normal sized hand and compare
it to a normal sized neck. Those two claws would never go around
someone's neck unless that person were very tiny. We accept these
things and we move on.

Steve

M-Wolverine

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Jan 16, 2002, 12:31:27 PM1/16/02
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"tom k" <to...@nomail.com> wrote in message news:<4Z218.10211$nI1....@news1.wwck1.ri.home.com>...
> his claws are not so hard to believe.
> if you hold a knife and stab someone, with the right amount of "grip"
> the knife will pierce the person. consider wolvie's grip to be way
> stronger and he can pierce brick now. the muscles grip really hard.
> or
> possibly the claw move into a locking position(maybe in front of
> the wrist, where now the entire lower arm is the claw)sorta like a dog
> can lock its jaw. you can use your whole arm as a ram if you keep it
> straight.
>

Yeah, but what I don't get about it is if you take a titanium knife,
and try and cut lead, it's not just going to slice through the lead,
your arm is going to bounce off it...the knife won't be damaged, but
it's sharpness isn't going to make it go through the lead either with
your arm strength....

-Chris C.

Chris

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Jan 16, 2002, 1:22:41 PM1/16/02
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Steven Dumont <steven...@sympatico.ca> wrote in
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> We accept these
> things and we move on.

Try this question on for size:

Is there any possible way for Wolverine to die?

;-)

Steve Jones

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"Chris" <OBVIOU...@cflowersDOTfreeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Steven Dumont <steven...@sympatico.ca> wrote in
> news:3C45AEC5...@sympatico.ca:
>
> > We accept these
> > things and we move on.
>
> Try this question on for size:
>
> Is there any possible way for Wolverine to die?
>
> ;-)

Exactly one: if his popularity were to plummet immensely

- Steve


Paul O'Brien

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In article <Xns9198BB9F49095...@195.92.193.157>, Chris
<OBVIOU...@cflowersDOTfreeserve.co.uk> writes

>
>Is there any possible way for Wolverine to die?
>
>;-)

Suffocation?

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arc...@sfu.ca (Andrew Ryan Chang) wrote in message news:<a22k54$8fb$1...@morgoth.sfu.ca>...

> M-Wolverine <ch...@pnc-wbi.com> wrote:
> >Which I thought of, and works fine cutting through flesh and the like.
> > But if a cat hits something hard with it's claws, the (and the claw
> >and paw was made of metal so it wouldn't break), the claw would be
> >forced back in; unless of course, Wolverine's claw holding muscles are
> >stronger than his punching muscles; in which case his arm would bounce
> >off the target- now I know the claws are sharp, but Wolverine does
> >have limited strength.....oh, my head hurts...
>
> Can't we excuse this by claiming infinite sharpness on the claws?
> In any case, Wolverine often uses slicing motions rather than stabbing
> motions.

But is there anything that we know of that can cut through something
that is really hard through normal human force, just by being really
sharp? Or are we just excepting it as comic book science, which is
alright.....

And of course, slicing motions wouldn't be at effect, because they
never completely leave the casing.....but he has been know to "punch"
his claws throught things before (often uses them that way for
climbing, or cutting holes through things without edges, as well as
stabbing).

-Chris C.

Unknown

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Jan 16, 2002, 4:20:04 PM1/16/02
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>Try this question on for size:
>
>Is there any possible way for Wolverine to die?

Sure mainstream Logan was nearly killed
when the Hand nearly cut him in half
with a broadsword through his middle.

It was almost more than his regenerative
capability could handle.

Alternate old Logan of the Rachael
Phoenix future had his body boiled
away by a sentenial leaving only
his COMPLETELY metalic skeleton behind...

Along with a host of other ways
such as suffocation (at the bottom
of a river or in outer space it getting
him there that the trick!); decapitation
(Again try making him sit still long enough
for you to get close enough to possibly
cut off his head).

His regernation ability is great but
NOT all encompassing, you have just
got to keep attacking while it is
trying to heal him such as push
him into a vat of acid while he is
unconscious...


Sanctify

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Jan 16, 2002, 9:29:07 PM1/16/02
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There was an issue of X-Men where Mystique slashed his throat, thus he bled
to death - albeit a robot in Arcade's funny farm.

Goodwin and Byrne had him stuck at the bottom of the ocean wondering how
long it would take him to drown.

I'm sure there'd be other ways of killing him, but with some of the hacks
that are writing the character these days I'm sure he'd regenerate fairly
rapidly.

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Les Bonser

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And there are any number of ways to surpress his regeneration ability...

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Pine.GSO.4.21.020116...@amanda.dorsai.org, "Unknown"

Andrew Ryan Chang

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M-Wolverine <ch...@pnc-wbi.com> wrote:
>arc...@sfu.ca (Andrew Ryan Chang) wrote in message
>> Can't we excuse this by claiming infinite sharpness on the claws?
>> In any case, Wolverine often uses slicing motions rather than stabbing
>> motions.
>
>But is there anything that we know of that can cut through something
>that is really hard through normal human force, just by being really
>sharp? Or are we just excepting it as comic book science, which is
>alright.....

Well, the two things you need to cut something are sharpness and
hardness/strength; the latter comes by definition of adamantium. So yeah,
there's some comic book science even leaving aside questions of how sharp
the claws are.


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Andrew Ryan Chang

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Steven Dumont <steven...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>The length doesn't bother me. How many times has he done the little
>trick where he pops two claws and puts them around someone's neck,
>threatening to pop the third. Look at a normal sized hand and compare
>it to a normal sized neck. Those two claws would never go around
>someone's neck unless that person were very tiny. We accept these
>things and we move on.

For some reason, I never thought of this till now. But it's gonna
bug me for the rest of my life, thank you very much.

Chris

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Unknown <psi...@nowhere.net> wrote in
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> decapitation
> (Again try making him sit still long enough
> for you to get close enough to possibly
> cut off his head)

Surely you'd hit bones in his neck and stop because fo the adamantium?! ;-)

Chris

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Paul O'Brien <pa...@esoterica.demon.co.uk> wrote in
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Yeah, suffocation and/or drowning would probably be the only ways I would
guess.

Terrafamilia

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Chris wrote:

> Steven Dumont <steven...@sympatico.ca> wrote in
> news:3C45AEC5...@sympatico.ca:
>
> > We accept these
> > things and we move on.
>
> Try this question on for size:
>
> Is there any possible way for Wolverine to die?
>
> ;-)

I prefer the old, reliable woodchipper. With the adamantium skeleton you
might have to run him through a few time but I can live with that.

Ciao,

Terrafamilia

M-Wolverine

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Terrafamilia <terraf...@irtc.net> wrote in message news:<3C4614E9...@irtc.net>...

...As long as Wolvie couldn't live with it, eh? (God, that was funny...:)

-Chris C.

Alex Brands

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> "tom k" <to...@nomail.com> wrote in message
> news:4Z218.10211$nI1....@news1.wwck1.ri.home.com...
> > his claws are not so hard to believe.
> > if you hold a knife and stab someone, with the right amount of "grip"
> > the knife will pierce the person. consider wolvie's grip to be way
> > stronger and he can pierce brick now. the muscles grip really hard.
> > or
> > possibly the claw move into a locking position(maybe in front of
> > the wrist, where now the entire lower arm is the claw)sorta like a dog
> > can lock its jaw.

This is a myth. Dogs have no locking mechanism for their jaws.

Alex Brands

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Jan 17, 2002, 2:18:14 PM1/17/02
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On Wed, 16 Jan 2002, Steven Dumont wrote:
>
> The length doesn't bother me. How many times has he done the little
> trick where he pops two claws and puts them around someone's neck,
> threatening to pop the third. Look at a normal sized hand and compare
> it to a normal sized neck. Those two claws would never go around
> someone's neck unless that person were very tiny. We accept these
> things and we move on.

I suppose wolverine has large hands...also, the claws frequently seem to
be drawn non-parallel when deployed, so they might fit around a neck.

James Moar

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Chris <OBVIOU...@cflowersDOTfreeserve.co.uk> wrote in message news:<Xns9198BB9F49095...@195.92.193.157>...

> Is there any possible way for Wolverine to die?
>
> ;-)

A big enough blast could do it. Or turning off/overriding/screwing up
his healing factor before attacking him.


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Steven Dumont

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Jan 17, 2002, 6:43:36 PM1/17/02
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For a guy who's 5' 3" (or thereabouts) he'd have to have hands like the
Beast for this to work.

Steve

Chip

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Chris <OBVIOU...@cflowersDOTfreeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Unknown <psi...@nowhere.net> wrote in
> news:Pine.GSO.4.21.020116...@amanda.dorsai.org:
>
> > decapitation
> > (Again try making him sit still long enough
> > for you to get close enough to possibly
> > cut off his head)
>
> Surely you'd hit bones in his neck and stop because fo the adamantium?!
;-)

In a Warren Ellis Excaliber (100?), Professor X had files about how to kill
Wolverine. Chopping his head off was what I remember...
Why do I remember that?
-- chip


Silvercat

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Jan 17, 2002, 4:17:42 PM1/17/02
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But wasn't that before he got the admantium back?
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chuck

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Christian Landry <chri...@NOSPAMnbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message news:<Xns9196F0218592ch...@198.164.200.20>...
> Chris <OBVIOU...@cflowersDOTfreeserve.co.uk> wrote in
> news:Xns9195C92CE9782...@195.92.193.157:
>
> > ...and if so, would that make/class him a cyborg?
> >
>
> I've been reading X-Men since Giant Size X-Men #1, and was always under
> the impression that Wolverine's claws were bionic, and that *SNIKT* was the
> sound of the claws sliding out of their metal casings. The fact that the
> claws broke through his skin, and that his healing factor was needed to
> close the wound once he popped them back in, was yet another reason.
> Besides, they've been called 'bionic' by the narrator.
>
> Until, that is, it was revealed he had bone claws all along.
>
> Christian Landry

There is one other possibility as to why the claws don't get riped
from his forearms when he cuts something hard.
Everyone knows that the claws are bone infused with adamantium, not
covered, but with the pores filled with adamantium. Now wouldn't it be
natural to assume that Logan's connective tissue (ligaments and
tendons) are also infused with Adamantium near the points where it
attaches to the bones. If this is the case then the tendons etc., that
control and hold the claws would be stong enough to keep the claws
from being ripped out.

Chuck

kinetic

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"Alex Brands" <abbr...@artsci.wustl.edu> wrote in message
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> This is a myth. Dogs have no locking mechanism for their jaws.

I thought that Pit-bulls had to completely close their mouths before opening
them.

~ Jamie West


Dale Hicks

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In article <Xns91994EA2FC54...@195.92.195.157>,
OBVIOU...@cflowersDOTfreeserve.co.uk says...

> Unknown <psi...@nowhere.net> wrote in
> news:Pine.GSO.4.21.020116...@amanda.dorsai.org:
>
> > decapitation
> > (Again try making him sit still long enough
> > for you to get close enough to possibly
> > cut off his head)
>
> Surely you'd hit bones in his neck and stop because fo the adamantium?! ;-)

Does he have adamantium cartilage? Surely you can dislocate one disk
enough to get a clean, non-adamantium-overlapped-spine cut?

--
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Dale Hicks

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In article <3C4614E9...@irtc.net>, terraf...@irtc.net says...

>
> Chris wrote:
>
> > Is there any possible way for Wolverine to die?
>
> I prefer the old, reliable woodchipper. With the adamantium skeleton you
> might have to run him through a few time but I can live with that.

Did you read the old Alan Davis annual where he was like disintegrated
and still came back from a drop of blood? Sure, he'd been given some
godlike powers for a brief moment, but still, I came out doubting his
mortality after that.

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Brian Oberholzer

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On 16 Jan 2002 18:22:41 GMT, Chris
<OBVIOU...@cflowersDOTfreeserve.co.uk> wrote:

>Steven Dumont <steven...@sympatico.ca> wrote in
>news:3C45AEC5...@sympatico.ca:
>
>> We accept these
>> things and we move on.
>
>Try this question on for size:
>
>Is there any possible way for Wolverine to die?

An atomic or gamma bomb.


Michael

Joakim Hemsle

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Jan 18, 2002, 7:32:11 AM1/18/02
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I'd say it is very simple, just burn every comic book he exist in
Destroy every x-men the movie DVD and crush every Wolverine doll
and ...
That may take a while, throw him into the sun may be one solution or
just put him in a adamantium cage.
Or let him meet the best there is, the only problem is that atleast
one of them would survive.

/Joakim

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Chris

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Jan 18, 2002, 11:23:12 AM1/18/02
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f98...@dd.chalmers.se (Joakim Hemsle) wrote in
news:a294kb$lck$1...@eol.dd.chalmers.se:

> I'd say it is very simple, just burn every comic book he exist in
> Destroy every x-men the movie DVD and crush every Wolverine doll
> and ...
> That may take a while, throw him into the sun may be one solution or
> just put him in a adamantium cage.
> Or let him meet the best there is, the only problem is that atleast
> one of them would survive.
>
> /Joakim
>

Oh stop my sides are sliting (sarcasm)

Chris

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Jan 18, 2002, 11:24:31 AM1/18/02
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Chris <OBVIOU...@cflowersDOTfreeserve.co.uk> wrote in
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> sliting

Correction: 'spliting'

M-Wolverine

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Jan 18, 2002, 11:34:10 AM1/18/02
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arc...@sfu.ca (Andrew Ryan Chang) wrote in message news:<a25r74$ln2$1...@morgoth.sfu.ca>...

> M-Wolverine <ch...@pnc-wbi.com> wrote:
> >arc...@sfu.ca (Andrew Ryan Chang) wrote in message
> >> Can't we excuse this by claiming infinite sharpness on the claws?
> >> In any case, Wolverine often uses slicing motions rather than stabbing
> >> motions.
> >
> >But is there anything that we know of that can cut through something
> >that is really hard through normal human force, just by being really
> >sharp? Or are we just excepting it as comic book science, which is
> >alright.....
>
> Well, the two things you need to cut something are sharpness and
> hardness/strength; the latter comes by definition of adamantium. So yeah,
> there's some comic book science even leaving aside questions of how sharp
> the claws are.

You do need one other thing, and that's force. I can take the world's
sharpest, best forged sword, but I'm not cutting through the side of
my car; and we all know how good that metal is(n't). Maybe dent the
heck out of it, but not cut it....

-Chris C.

M-Wolverine

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Jan 18, 2002, 11:36:18 AM1/18/02
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meje...@csulb.edu (Brian Oberholzer) wrote in message news:<3c47acba...@news.csulb.edu>...

Or just turn him into Wolver-Hulk....

-Chris C.

M-Wolverine

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Jan 18, 2002, 11:39:39 AM1/18/02
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chuck...@hotmail.com (chuck) wrote in message news:<bb922223.02011...@posting.google.com>...

That would be fine, but why doesn't the tendon just rip where the
flesh meets the metal? And if the whole thing is laced, how is it
flexible?

Still trying to figure out how Cyber even moved....

-Chris C.

Terrafamilia

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Jan 18, 2002, 11:34:53 AM1/18/02
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Brian Oberholzer wrote:

Not a gamma bomb. That would just further mutate him into some sort of
ubermutant. Oh, wait, he's that now.

Ciao,

Terrafamilia

James Moar

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Jan 18, 2002, 12:15:17 PM1/18/02
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Chris <OBVIOU...@cflowersDOTfreeserve.co.uk> wrote in message news:<Xns91994EEB65AF2...@195.92.195.157>...

> Yeah, suffocation and/or drowning would probably be the only ways I would
> guess.

Sabertooth tries to drown Wolverine in Ultimate X-Men #12. He doesn't
finish the job, but the sequence suggests it could've worked.


--
James Moar

Andrew Ryan Chang

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Jan 18, 2002, 1:30:48 PM1/18/02
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Dale Hicks <dgh...@bellSPAMsouth.net.invalid> wrote:
>Did you read the old Alan Davis annual where he was like disintegrated
>and still came back from a drop of blood? Sure, he'd been given some
>godlike powers for a brief moment, but still, I came out doubting his
>mortality after that.

Yeeeesh!

Thankfully his blood doesn't normally do that, or he'd be a
one-man overpopulation problem.

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Desslock

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Jan 18, 2002, 1:34:38 PM1/18/02
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"Dale Hicks" <dgh...@bellSPAMsouth.net.invalid> wrote in message
news:MPG.16b154dd...@news1.lig.bellsouth.net...

That story was a complete embarrassment. He came back from a drop of
blood....with his adamantium skeleton intact? How the hell did he recreate
that?

Desslock

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SpeedMchV

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Jan 18, 2002, 3:08:41 PM1/18/02
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Chris <OBVIOU...@cflowersDOTfreeserve.co.uk> wrote in message news:<Xns9198BB9F49095...@195.92.193.157>...

> Steven Dumont <steven...@sympatico.ca> wrote in
> news:3C45AEC5...@sympatico.ca:
>
> > We accept these
> > things and we move on.
>
> Try this question on for size:
>
> Is there any possible way for Wolverine to die?
>


A giant rubber eraser.

Michael Davis

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Jan 18, 2002, 4:39:52 PM1/18/02
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On Fri, 18 Jan 2002, Brian Oberholzer wrote:

> >Is there any possible way for Wolverine to die?
> An atomic or gamma bomb.

Nah, that would just turn him into Wolver-Hulk. Do you really want the
strongest one there is with adamantium claws?

Mike Davis

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Christian Henriksson

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Jan 18, 2002, 5:41:41 PM1/18/02
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18 Jan 2002 16:24:31 GMT sade Chris
<OBVIOU...@cflowersDOTfreeserve.co.uk> allt detta:

>Chris <OBVIOU...@cflowersDOTfreeserve.co.uk> wrote in
>news:Xns919AA761E9C8F...@195.92.193.157:
>
>> sliting
>
>Correction: 'spliting'

You wanna correct that again? :)

Christian Henriksson
(che...@tiscali.se)
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it's the silence of good people."

Chip

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Jan 18, 2002, 6:16:30 PM1/18/02
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Silvercat <silv...@qnet.com> wrote in message
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> Chip wrote:
> > In a Warren Ellis Excaliber (100?), Professor X had files about how to
kill
> > Wolverine. Chopping his head off was what I remember...
> > Why do I remember that?
> > -- chip
>
> But wasn't that before he got the admantium back?

Still, if you find something to go through (remove/dissolve/make redundant)
the adamantium, and you get his head off, he's done for.
Grant's already got something that goes up to 11, you just know.
-- chip


Paul O'Brien

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Jan 18, 2002, 2:53:23 PM1/18/02
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In article <a29pr...@enews3.newsguy.com>, Desslock <desslock@THISCOME
SOUTsympatico.ca> writes

>
>That story was a complete embarrassment. He came back from a drop of
>blood....with his adamantium skeleton intact? How the hell did he recreate
>that?

Magic.

The "enhanced healing factor" thing can't be taken literally.

Paul O'Brien
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ARTICLE 10 - http://www.ninthart.com

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Chris

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Jan 19, 2002, 4:20:36 AM1/19/02
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Christian Henriksson <che...@tiscali.se> wrote in
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> 'spliting'

Correction: 'splitting'

Damn! Sometimes your fingers can type quicker then your brain can act ;-)

Christian Henriksson

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Fri, 18 Jan 2002 16:39:52 -0500 sade Michael Davis <dav...@pa.msu.edu>
allt detta:

>On Fri, 18 Jan 2002, Brian Oberholzer wrote:
>
>> >Is there any possible way for Wolverine to die?
>> An atomic or gamma bomb.
>
>Nah, that would just turn him into Wolver-Hulk. Do you really want the
>strongest one there is with adamantium claws?

Question: If Wolverine turned into Wolver-Hulk with green
gammaradiated skin, impervious as it is, would he be able to get his
claws _out_?

Mathew Krull

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Jan 20, 2002, 12:16:22 AM1/20/02
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Christian Henriksson wrote:

> Fri, 18 Jan 2002 16:39:52 -0500 sade Michael Davis <dav...@pa.msu.edu>
> allt detta:
>
> >On Fri, 18 Jan 2002, Brian Oberholzer wrote:
> >
> >> >Is there any possible way for Wolverine to die?
> >> An atomic or gamma bomb.
> >
> >Nah, that would just turn him into Wolver-Hulk. Do you really want the
> >strongest one there is with adamantium claws?
>
> Question: If Wolverine turned into Wolver-Hulk with green
> gammaradiated skin, impervious as it is, would he be able to get his
> claws _out_?
>

Since Wolvie has been shown on many occasions to cut the Hulk, I don't think
the Wolvie-Hulk would have much of a problem popping his claws. Heck,
Deadpool impaled Hulk with a street sign post.

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Alex Brands

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Jan 21, 2002, 9:03:17 PM1/21/02
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Not true.


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