Amalgam Annotations - Magneto & the Magnetic Men #1
John Nevins
(corrections/additions to my errors/omissions are welcome)
Six down, six to go...and since I decided to save the better ones for last,
we should now be entering the good issues (I hope).
Magneto and the Magnetic Men. For those of you not In The Know, Magneto is
Marvel's premier anti-hero - the archenemy of the X-Men and a mutant with
magnetic powers who seeks, by various means (depending on the writer) save
all mutantkind from the bigtory of normal humans in the Marvel Universe. The
"Magnetic Men" - well, I'll explain that soon enough...
p 1 "Kokoro" - hmmmm. The Marvel part of Kokoro is pretty obvious - this is
at least obliquely an X-book, so an X-character is the natural
choice -
i.e., Psylocke (Final Round Qualifier in the All-Stupid-Name Tournament)
- in the Marvel Universe she's a ninja with a "psychic" blade. As for
the DC half of Kokoro (which means _something_, I know, but I don't know
what...), I admit to confusion. My best guess is the Outsider member
Katana - who is Japanese and carries a real katana and was a trained
samurai (I think). But I get the feeling there's more too the character
than that, and I'm just missing it due to my lack of knowledge.
"Mephisto's Apokolips" - as I mentioned in a previous review,
Mephisto is Marvel's Ultimate Personification of Evil. Why Mephisto is
ruling Apokolips, and not Thanoseid, is beyond me. For that matter,
what happened to Mephisatanus? I think this, like the next entry, is an
indication that, just maybe, the various Amalgam authors didn't confer
with each other quite as much as they should have...
"the Tyranoids of Latkovia" - again, as mentioned before, Latveria
is the home country of Marvel's Doctor Doom. Markovia is a DC country,
I know, but I can't remember why it's significant. And "Tyranoids"
doesn't ring any bells with me.
p 2/3Enter the Magnetic Men. Now, long ago, DC had a group called the Metal
Men; they were a bunch of robots, each made out of a different metal -
Platinum, Iron, Tin, Mercury, Gold and Lead - am I forgetting any? - and
each with a different personality. The Magnetic Men are based on these
DC characters. Their names - Cobalt, Nickel, Iron, etc - are element
names, just like the Metal Men. One perhaps significant thing here is
that the Metal Men are drawn to look like various Marvel characters: the
white one looks like Quicksilver (the mutant speedster of _X-Factor_),
and the green one looks like the Toad (a third-rate mutant criminal, and
once a member of Magneto's Brotherhood of Evil Mutants). Note also that
they have their element symbols on their foreheads, just like the Metal
Men did. And the green Magnetic Man stutters, just like one of the
original Metal Men (Mercury, maybe?)
- "Sentinel" - that's the name for the giant mutant-hunting robots
that various mad scientists and the US government sic on the X-Men. They
never seem to actually _work_, but that's the gvt for you, I guess...
p 4 "Sinistron" - Hmmm. Now, on the one hand, "Sinistron" seems pretty
clearly (at least to me) to be a merger of Marvel's Mr. Sinister
(one of
the X-Men's main enemies) and Marvel's Ultron (the ultimate robot,
designed by Hank Pym but since gone rogue, and a deadly enemy to the
Avengers for many years). But where's the DC portion of this character?
I'm trying to figure out who it might be, just by looking at Sinistron,
but nothing's coming. Any ideas?
p 6 Hmmm. I don't know that they ever established that Will Magnus, the
creator of the Metal Men, had a brother. I know for sure that Magneto's
entire family was lost (at least in the Marvel Universe) in the
Holocaust. Making them brothers...well, I guess it works.
Note that Magneto's speech here - "focus all my energy on creating
a peaceful haven for mutants" - is the same tired, tedious spiel X-fans
have been subjected to for...um...well, ever since Claremont started
writing them.
p 7 The Magnetic Airship here is not a part of Magneto's past; he
specializes in underground bases and satellites, but not airships.
"Cerebro" - In Marvel Continuity Charles Xavier, Professor X,
leader of the X-Men, invented a computer to detect, locate and track
mutants. The name of this computer was Cerebro.
"Mr. X" - we'll discover who he is in JLX #1. For now, though,
suffice it to say that he's not a character we should recognize.
Magneto makes reference here to having once led a team of living
mutants into combat, with ill results. This will become significant on
page 8.
p 8 Magneto says here that he made the Magnetic Men in the image of his
"brotherhood of mutants." Early in Magneto's Marvel Continuity Career,
he was a villain, and led a team of criminal mutants known as the
Brotherhood of Evil Mutants. Obviously in the Amalgam universe his
early career was on the side of Law and Order.
But who are the Magnetic Men imitating, then? Well, Nickel - the
white one - looks like Quicksilver, as I said, and Bismuth, the green
one, looks like the Toad - both the Toad and Quicksilver were
members of
the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants, btw. Antimony - she's tougher. The
Scarlet Witch, perhaps (Magneto's daughter, too). Iron might by the
Blob, then. Cobalt...don't know. Suggestions?
p 10 "Genosha" - in the Marvel Universe there is this small Southeast Asian
country named Genosha where the X-Men have had various adventures; first
Genosha was enslaving mutants, then it wasn't, then it was a
sham...well, you get the point. In the Amalgam universe, Genosha is an
African island. Why the change? *shrug*
p 14 We get cameos of five mutants. Who are they? I don't know for sure,
but here's my guesses:
Mutant #1 (reading from left to right): he's got armor and has
smoke coming from his mouth, eyes and ears. Looks _sorta_ like Marvel's
Blob (a mutant who is grossly fat and can't be moved if he doesn't want
to be), but crossed with who?
Mutant #2: Green and plant-like. DC's Jason Woodrue (a failed plant
elemental, kinda), perhaps?
Mutant #3: I can nail this one, at least. He's either at least
half, if not wholly, the Mimic, a Marvel character and early enemy of
the X-Men whose power was to mimic the powers of other characters.
Mutant #4: She's go the pale skin and eye-tattoo of Marvel's Domino
(the assassin), but that was Janet Van Dine's other identity in _X-
Patrol_. She's also got pointed ears and an elf-like face. A
combination of Cluracan's sister and Death, from _Sandman_?
Mutant #5: I have no idea whatsoever.
That's about it for new characters, events, etc. What this was, was a mutant
book. Not as gawdawfully self-indulgent as they can be, but neither as
moving as they sometimes are, either. Fair writing, decent art.
jess
William George Ferguson
> Amalgam Annotations: Magneto and the Magnetic Men #1
>
>(corrections/additions to my errors/omissions are welcome)
>
>
>p 2/3Enter the Magnetic Men. Now, long ago, DC had a group called the Metal
> Men; they were a bunch of robots, each made out of a different metal -
> Platinum, Iron, Tin, Mercury, Gold and Lead - am I forgetting any? - and
> each with a different personality. The Magnetic Men are based on these
> DC characters. Their names - Cobalt, Nickel, Iron, etc - are element
> names, just like the Metal Men. One perhaps significant thing here is
> that the Metal Men are drawn to look like various Marvel characters: the
> white one looks like Quicksilver (the mutant speedster of _X-Factor_),
> and the green one looks like the Toad (a third-rate mutant criminal, and
> once a member of Magneto's Brotherhood of Evil Mutants). Note also that
> they have their element symbols on their foreheads, just like the Metal
> Men did. And the green Magnetic Man stutters, just like one of the
> original Metal Men (Mercury, maybe?)
> - "Sentinel" - that's the name for the giant mutant-hunting robots
> that various mad scientists and the US government sic on the X-Men. They
> never seem to actually _work_, but that's the gvt for you, I guess...
The Metal Men had a revival run last year. Important to note that Dr.
Will Magnus was the scientist who made the Metal Men. (Pairing Will
Magnus and Erik Magnus was a brilliant natural). Tin was the
stuttering Metal Man, Mercury was (natch) the hothead.
>p 4 "Sinistron" - Hmmm. Now, on the one hand, "Sinistron" seems pretty
> clearly (at least to me) to be a merger of Marvel's Mr. Sinister
>(one of
> the X-Men's main enemies) and Marvel's Ultron (the ultimate robot,
> designed by Hank Pym but since gone rogue, and a deadly enemy to the
> Avengers for many years). But where's the DC portion of this character?
> I'm trying to figure out who it might be, just by looking at Sinistron,
> but nothing's coming. Any ideas?
The DC half was Sinestro and the Marvel half was indeed Ultron
>p 6 Hmmm. I don't know that they ever established that Will Magnus,
the
> creator of the Metal Men, had a brother. I know for sure that Magneto's
> entire family was lost (at least in the Marvel Universe) in the
> Holocaust. Making them brothers...well, I guess it works.
Will Magnus & Eric Magnus; how could they not (Magneto was Eric
Magnus for longer than he has been Erik Magnus Lensherr).
> Note that Magneto's speech here - "focus all my energy on creating
> a peaceful haven for mutants" - is the same tired, tedious spiel X-fans
> have been subjected to for...um...well, ever since Claremont started
> writing them.
>
>
>p 10 "Genosha" - in the Marvel Universe there is this small Southeast Asian
> country named Genosha where the X-Men have had various adventures; first
> Genosha was enslaving mutants, then it wasn't, then it was a
> sham...well, you get the point. In the Amalgam universe, Genosha is an
> African island. Why the change? *shrug*
Actually, in the Marvel Universe, Genosha, and Wolverine's Madripoor,
are off the east coast of Africa in the Indian Ocean.
Sean MacDonald
>Markovia is where Geo-Force of the Outsiders, and Terra of the Old New Teen
>Titans
>It is also a Central/Eastern European fictional country.
It is also significant because the Outsiders had many
adventures
there; Katana (DC half of Kokoro) was an Outsider. See how it
all ties together?
>
>>p 2/3Enter the Magnetic Men. Now, long ago, DC had a group called the Metal
>> Men; they were a bunch of robots, each made out of a different metal -
>> Platinum, Iron, Tin, Mercury, Gold and Lead - am I forgetting any?
There was also, briefly, Nameless.
- and
>
>Was there an Iron Metal Man?
Yes
> I thought there were only five.
>They are direct analogues of the original Brotherhood of Evil Mutants. The
>crossovers are:
>
>Antimony - Scarlet Witch/Platinum
>Bismuth - Toad/Mercury
Well, he seems kinda liquid, but his stuttering and size makes
him more like Tin
>Cobalt - Mastermind/Gold
How is Cobalt like Mastermind?
>Iron - the Blob/Lead
I think Iron is based on Iron. :)
>Nickel - Quicksilver/Tin
His wildly exaggerated poses remind me much more of Mercury
than Tin. Also, since quicksilver = mercury, the combo is
more appropos.
>
--
-SM
"It seemed a dreadful injustice that these wise races should
perish at the hands of creatures who were still little more
than animals. It was as if vultures feasted on and squabbled
over the paralyzed body of the youthful poet who could only
stare at them with puzzled eyes as they slowly robbed him of
an exquisite existence they would never appreciate, never know
they were taking. 'If they valued what they stole, if they knew
what they were destroying...then I would be consoled.'"
-Michael Moorcock
John Nevins
>kal...@tiac.net (John Nevins) wrote:
>> Amalgam Annotations: Magneto and the Magnetic Men #1
>>
>>(corrections/additions to my errors/omissions are welcome)
>>
>>p 4 "Sinistron" - Hmmm. Now, on the one hand, "Sinistron" seems pretty
>> clearly (at least to me) to be a merger of Marvel's Mr. Sinister
>>(one of
>> the X-Men's main enemies) and Marvel's Ultron (the ultimate robot,
>> designed by Hank Pym but since gone rogue, and a deadly enemy to the
>> Avengers for many years). But where's the DC portion of this character?
>> I'm trying to figure out who it might be, just by looking at Sinistron,
>> but nothing's coming. Any ideas?
>
>The DC half was Sinestro and the Marvel half was indeed Ultron
Sorry, I'm going to have to disagree - he's got Mr. Sinister's costume
and mutant-obsession; I don't see _any_ influence from Sinestro.
>> entire family was lost (at least in the Marvel Universe) in the
>> Holocaust. Making them brothers...well, I guess it works.
>
>Will Magnus & Eric Magnus; how could they not (Magneto was Eric
>Magnus for longer than he has been Erik Magnus Lensherr).
was he? I'm not doubting you, I just can't for the life of me remember
where they noted Magneto's last name before the came right out with the
Lensherr part of it.
>>p 10 "Genosha" - in the Marvel Universe there is this small Southeast Asian
>> country named Genosha where the X-Men have had various adventures; first
>> Genosha was enslaving mutants, then it wasn't, then it was a
>> sham...well, you get the point. In the Amalgam universe, Genosha is an
>> African island. Why the change? *shrug*
>
>Actually, in the Marvel Universe, Genosha, and Wolverine's Madripoor,
>are off the east coast of Africa in the Indian Ocean.
Ooof. Another error I wouldn't have made had I been writing this when I
wasn't incoherent.
Thanks for the corrections.
jess
John Nevins
>In article <4h31eq$a...@sundog.tiac.net>, John Nevins <kal...@tiac.net> wrote:
>> Amalgam Annotations: Magneto and the Magnetic Men #1
>>
>>(corrections/additions to my errors/omissions are welcome)
>
>> Men; they were a bunch of robots, each made out of a different metal -
>> Platinum, Iron, Tin, Mercury, Gold and Lead - am I forgetting any? - and
>
I _thought_ there was, but senility is obviously wearing away my memory
and making me forget all the _really_ important things in life, so I
might be wrong....
>> the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants, btw. Antimony - she's tougher. The
>> Scarlet Witch, perhaps (Magneto's daughter, too). Iron might by the
>> Blob, then. Cobalt...don't know. Suggestions?
>
>They are direct analogues of the original Brotherhood of Evil Mutants. The
>crossovers are:
>
>Antimony - Scarlet Witch/Platinum
>Bismuth - Toad/Mercury
>Cobalt - Mastermind/Gold
>Iron - the Blob/Lead
>Nickel - Quicksilver/Tin
*sigh* This, to me, is unforgivable. It's staring me in the face, and I
don't get it. That's it, I'm hanging up the keyboard and going off to a
retirement home somewhere...
>>p 10 "Genosha" - in the Marvel Universe there is this small Southeast Asian
>> country named Genosha where the X-Men have had various adventures; first
>> Genosha was enslaving mutants, then it wasn't, then it was a
>> sham...well, you get the point. In the Amalgam universe, Genosha is an
>> African island. Why the change? *shrug*
>
>Well, it was an African island when it first showed up in Claremont's writing;
>did later authors move it?
No, I just made a stupid mistake.
jess
Douglas Limmer
Sean MacDonald <mcdo...@vorteb.math.uab.edu> wrote:
>lim...@math.orst.edu (Douglas Limmer) wrote:
>>>p 2/3Enter the Magnetic Men. Now, long ago, DC had a group called the Metal
>>> Men; they were a bunch of robots, each made out of a different metal -
>>> Platinum, Iron, Tin, Mercury, Gold and Lead - am I forgetting any?
>
I guess I don't remember the Metal Men as well as I thought I did. Now where
did I put my Crisises ...
>>They are direct analogues of the original Brotherhood of Evil Mutants. The
>>crossovers are:
>>
>>Bismuth - Toad/Mercury
>
>Well, he seems kinda liquid, but his stuttering and size makes
>him more like Tin
>
>>Nickel - Quicksilver/Tin
>
>His wildly exaggerated poses remind me much more of Mercury
>than Tin. Also, since quicksilver = mercury, the combo is
>more appropos.
OK, so I messed up Tin and Mercury, and completely missed the
Mercury/Quicksilver angle. Oops. :-)
>>Cobalt - Mastermind/Gold
>
>How is Cobalt like Mastermind?
Well, he seemed kind of arrogant and spooky to me. Is that enough? Besides,
he's the only one left. :-)
>>Iron - the Blob/Lead
>
>I think Iron is based on Iron. :)
Yeah, yeah; see above.
Doug L.
--
Douglas Limmer -- mailto: lim...@math.orst.edu
The Man with the Golden Gun
>
>Don't sweat it. The only way I got the Blob and Mastermind connections to the
>Magnetic Men was by process of elimination and knowledge of the original
>Brotherhood of Evil Mutants. There was nothing in the story itself to tip us
>off.
I got the Mastermind bit because of the interplay between him and the
Toad analogue. It screamed that at me.
-Scaramanga, with nothing better to do
--
The Man With the Golden Gun, Craig Lovelace, founder of MAVWWDBN
Bond: I hope I don't sound silly, sir, but Sir Hugo Drax? What
possible reason do we have to suspect him?
M.: Just a small one, 007. Why would the richest man in England
cheat his friends over pocket change, at bridge?
-from Ian Fleming's Moonraker
John Nevins
Amalgam Annotations: Magneto and the Magnetic Men #1
(corrections/additions to my errors/omissions are welcome)
anti-hero - the archenemy of the X-Men and a mutant with magnetic
save all mutantkind from the bigotry of normal humans in the Marvel
Universe. The "Magnetic Men" - well, I'll explain that soon
enough...
Qualifier in the All-Stupid-Name Tournament), a member of the
X-Men who is a ninja with a psychic "blade." The DC half of
the character is the Outsider member Katana, who is Japanese
and carries a mystical katana.
"Mephisto's Apokolips" - Mephisto is Marvel's Ultimate
Personification of Evil. It's in character for him to be
ruling a hell-pit like Apokolips. However, as we've seen in
_Bullets and Bracelets_ #1, Thanoseid rules Apokolips. And if
there is such a entity as Mephisto, who is the "Mephisatanus"
mentioned in _Dr. StrangeFate_ #1? Again, some editorial
collusion here would have been helpful.
"The Tyranoids of Latkovia" - the "Tyranoids" is a bit of
really obscure Marvel trivia (my compliments to Mark Waid for
remembering them); in Marvel Continuity they are a
subterranean offshoot of and servant race to the Deviants
race, and have been seen among the Subterraneans who have
served the both the Mole Man and Tyrannus. Latveria is the
home country of Marvel's Doctor Doom, and Markovia, in DC
Continuity, is a country where (as several people pointed out
when I failed to remember this) Geo-Force of the Outsiders and
Terra of the New Teen Titans come from, as well as being an
Eastern European country in roughly the same area as Latveria.
Sean McDonald further tied it all together by pointing out
that Katana, as a member of the Outsiders, had a number of
adventures there, just as Kokoro seems to have had adventures
in Latkovia.
p 2/3Enter the Magnetic Men. Long ago, DC had a group called the
Metal Men; an inventor named Will Magnus created a bunch of
robots, each made out of a different metal - Gold, Iron, Lead,
Mercury, Nameless, Platinum, and Tin - and each with a
different personality. The Magnetic Men are based on these DC
characters. Their names - Cobalt, Nickel, Iron, etc - are
element symbols on their foreheads, just like the Metal Men.
Significantly, the Amalgam Magnetic Men are drawn to resemble
various Marvel characters, which gives us a clue to their
identity. The Magnetic Men are based, as we'll soon find out,
on the Marvel Continuity Brotherhood Of Evil Mutants: as
several folks pointed out, most usefully Scaramanga and Doug
Limmer, the analogues are: Amalgam Antimony - Marvel Scarlet
Witch - DC Platinum; Amalgam Bismuth - Marvel Toad - DC
Mercury (he has the stutter of DC's Tin, however); Amalgam
Cobalt - Marvel Mastermind - DC Gold; Amalgam Iron - Marvel
Blob - DC Lead; and Amalgam Nickel - Marvel Quicksilver - DC
Tin. Why the Magnetic Men are based on these characters will
become clear in a few pages.
"Sentinel" - that's the name for the giant mutant-hunting
against the X-Men. They never seem to actually _work_, but
that's the government for you, I guess...
p 4 "Sinistron" - "Sinistron" seems pretty clearly to be a merger
of Marvel's Mr. Sinister (one of the X-Men's main enemies) and
Marvel's Ultron (the ultimate robot, designed by Hank Pym but
since gone rogue, and a deadly enemy to the Avengers for many
character. It was argued that the character Sinestro (a Green
Lantern enemy referred to in _Speed Demon_ #1) is the DC half,
but I can't agree with that - Sinestron doesn't act or sound
like Sinestro and doesn't have his powers or obsessions.
p 6 I don't know that they ever established that Will Magnus, the
creator of the Metal Men, had a brother. I know for sure that
Universe) in the Holocaust. Making them brothers is a logical
move here, though.
Note that Magneto's speech here - "focus all my energy on
creating a peaceful haven for mutants" - is the same tired,
Claremont started writing them. It's also an oblique
reference to Haven, Magneto's satellite-home-for-mutants, as
Scaramanga pointed out.
p 7 The Magnetic Airship here is not a part of Magneto's past; he
specializes in underground bases and satellites, but not
airships.
"Cerebro" - In Marvel Continuity Charles Xavier,
Professor X, leader of the X-Men, invented a computer to
detect, locate and track mutants. The name of this computer
was Cerebro.
"Mr. X" - we'll discover who he is in JLX #1. For now,
though, suffice it to say that he's not a character we should
recognize.
Magneto makes reference here to having once led a team of
living mutants into combat, with ill results. This will
become significant on page 8.
p 8 Magneto says here that he made the Magnetic Men in the image
of his "brotherhood of mutants." Early in Magneto's Marvel
Continuity Career, he was a villain, and led a team of
criminal mutants known as the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants.
Obviously in the Amalgam universe his early career was on the
Brotherhood of Mutants heroes rather than criminals.
Moreover, where the Marvel Continuity Brotherhood of Evil
Mutants were always squabbling with each other, and serving
Magneto out of fear or greed, the Amalgam Continuity
Brotherhood of Mutants were quite dear to Magneto. As well,
Magneto's clear feelings for Antimony, seemingly modeled on
his daughter (the Scarlet Witch, in Marvel Continuity), and
her rejection of same, seems an inversion of Platinum's
relationship with Will Magnus.
p 10 "Genosha" - in the Marvel Universe Genosha is a small island
of the East Coast of Africa, in the vicinity of Madagascar,
where the X-Men have had various adventures; first Genosha was
enslaving mutants, then it wasn't, then it was a sham...well,
Scaramanga, for correcting my initial error about the Marvel
location of Genosha.
p 14 We get cameos of five mutants. Who are they? I don't know
for sure, but here's my guesses:
Mutant #1 (reading from left to right): he's got armor
and has smoke coming from his mouth, eyes and ears. Looks
can't be moved if he doesn't want to be), but crossed with
the concept common enough in the superhero world for there to
be two of them? His armor also recalls the Juggernaut, the
unstoppable enemy of the X-Men, but it's unlikely that
Sinistron could capture the Juggernaut.
Mutant #2: Green and plant-like. DC's Jason Woodrue (a
perhaps?
Mutant #3: This one, at least, is clear. He's either at
least half, if not wholly, the Mimic, a Marvel character and
early enemy of the X-Men whose power was to mimic the powers
Mutant #4: She's got the pale skin and eye-tattoo of
Marvel's Domino (the assassin), but that was Janet Van Dyne's
other identity in _X-Patrol_. More likely she is at least
partially the now-deceased mutant teleporter Blink. Thanks to
Scaramanga for correcting my error regarding her.
Mutant #5: I have no idea whatsoever.
of mutants "slaughtered by the Sentinels." In Marvel
Continuity the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants was formed, then
disbanded, before Sentinels were ever invented. Obviously the
time-scale has shifted somewhat in the Amalgam Universe.
Thanks to Doug Limmer, Sean McDonald, Scaramanga, and everyone else
whose name I didn't get for corrections and additions.
jess
Jonathan Woodward
> >*sigh* This, to me, is unforgivable. It's staring me in the face, and I
> >don't get it. That's it, I'm hanging up the keyboard and going off to a
> >retirement home somewhere...
> Magnetic Men was by process of elimination and knowledge of the original
> Brotherhood of Evil Mutants. There was nothing in the story itself to tip us
> off.
-Go re-read Cobalt's dialogue. He's explicitly Mastermind.
Also, is it just me, or does Iron's costume look a _little_ like
Colossus' from around the X-Men/Alpha Flight miniseries? Colossus _was_
a follower of Magento for a while there.
-JW
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>while as Tina, the best thing that could happen to a walking
>inferiority complex.
Huh? Nameless was the "homely" tin robot. Platinum was the pretty platinum
robot. Nameless was not later named Platinum.
JPS
Paul O'Brien
>>>Magnus for longer than he has been Erik Magnus Lensherr).
>>
>>was he? I'm not doubting you, I just can't for the life of me remember
>>where they noted Magneto's last name before the came right out with the
>>Lensherr part of it.
Magneto was known simply as "Magnus" right up until he was given
the name Erik Magnus Lehnsherr in X-Men Unlimited #2. I'm not sure
how long they've been calling him that, but it must be since at
least the #160s of Uncanny.
Paul O'Brien
pr...@festival.ed.ac.uk, 1995 SLT (News) 228
EXCLUSIVE! Des Birkinshaw needs his head examined.
Milton Resweber 8
>
>>p 6 Hmmm. I don't know that they ever established that Will Magnus, the
>> creator of the Metal Men, had a brother. I know for sure that Magneto's
>> entire family was lost (at least in the Marvel Universe) in the
>> Holocaust. Making them brothers...well, I guess it works.
>
Actually they have. I don't have them handy so some details may be off
but it was established in the recent METAL MEN mini-series. Many MM
fans did not like the retcon in that series but apparently the idea was
that the MM are the living amnesiac essences of Will's brother (who really
invented the MM instead of Will) and so co-workers and innocent
bystanders. In that series I believe Gold was the brother and I believe
he dies in the series and Will becomes a new Metal Man in a body made
out of an unidentified alien metal.
Of course I agree with the others who feel that the "Magnus" connection
is the real reason for making them brothers in Amalgam.
--
Milton G. Resweber
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