Stan Lee
Steven Horton
Check out the Soapbox in this month's comics. Apparently Stan Lee *did*
write Heroes & Legends 97. Inexplicably, though, he says he took his
name off the book because he felt it wasn't his best work, and later discovered
it WAS quality Stan Lee work, and this was his way of putting his name
back on the book.
This after a recent Tom Breevort post to this newsgroup stating
that H&L 97 was "Full of continuity gaffes" and shouldn't be a part of
Marvel "canon."
Hmmmm.
-Steve
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Kitchen T
>This after a recent Tom Breevort post to this newsgroup stating
>that H&L 97 was "Full of continuity gaffes" and shouldn't be a part of
>Marvel "canon."
>Hmmmm.
Once again: Stan did the script, not the plot. The plot is where the continuity
gaffs show up. Those were beyond Stan's ability to fix.
Tom Brevoort
Steven Horton
Kitchen T (kitc...@aol.com) wrote:
: >This after a recent Tom Breevort post to this newsgroup stating
: Tom Brevoort
Ahhh, I see. I apologize. So both the guy listed on the cover and Stan Lee
wrote the script, and whoever plotted the issue is still an unknown?
Laurent Lehmann
On 15 Dec 1997 14:51:46 GMT, sho...@expert.cc.purdue.edu (Steven
Horton) wrote in message <673g62$h...@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> :
>Kitchen T (kitc...@aol.com) wrote:
>
>: Once again: Stan did the script, not the plot. The plot is where the continuity
>: gaffs show up. Those were beyond Stan's ability to fix.
>
>Ahhh, I see. I apologize. So both the guy listed on the cover and Stan Lee
>wrote the script, and whoever plotted the issue is still an unknown?
Nope. James Felder is credited with "story", so I think it's safe
to assume he actually was the plotter.
Laurent
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Jeffrey Linden
Kitchen T wrote in message
<19971214232...@ladder02.news.aol.com>...
>>This after a recent Tom Breevort post to this newsgroup stating
>>Marvel "canon."
>>Hmmmm.
>
>Once again: Stan did the script, not the plot. The plot is where the
continuity
>gaffs show up. Those were beyond Stan's ability to fix.
>
I think Stan had the ability to write Cap's dialogue so he didn't sound like
a juvenile delinquent. He also could have added a line in the
Quicksilver/Scarlet Witch vs. Magneto scene where they express at least some
surprise that he's returned from the Stranger's planet. He's also wholly
responsible (I would think) for Cap calling Iron Man "Tony" three times
(once at a televised press conference) at a time when Cap didn't even know
Iron Man's ID. I would think he could have made the dialogue in the Hank
and Jan scene reflect the reporters' fixation with the celebrity
early-twenties heiress and her middle-aged suitor rather than having the
reporters privy to Giant-Man and the Wasp's IDs which didn't become public
until after their return. And isn't the narration referring to the group as
the "original" Avengers (which would have included the Hulk and not Cap)
something Stan wrote? If Stan wasn't responsible for any of these gaffes,
exactly what WAS his contribution to H&L '97?
(Please note that my evident displeasure with H&L '97 is not meant as a
personal shot towards Stan or any of the folk involved. H&L '96 was a lot
of fun and, with the right plot/editor (think Busiek/Brevoort if they ever
get the time), H&L '98/99 could make up for this year's effort. It was nice
to see Buscema, Ditko, and Kane together on one story, and I might have even
enjoyed the Dick Ayers pages if he'd let someone else do the inks...)
Kitchen T
>Ahhh, I see. I apologize. So both the guy listed on the cover and Stan Lee
>wrote the script, and whoever plotted the issue is still an unknown?
No. James Felder, who's listed in the book as doing the "story", I believe,
wrote the plot. Stan did the script.
Tom Brevoort
Steven Horton
: >Kitchen T (kitc...@aol.com) wrote:
: >
: >: Once again: Stan did the script, not the plot. The plot is where the continuity
: >: gaffs show up. Those were beyond Stan's ability to fix.
: >Ahhh, I see. I apologize. So both the guy listed on the cover and Stan Lee
: >wrote the script, and whoever plotted the issue is still an unknown?
: Nope. James Felder is credited with "story", so I think it's safe
: to assume he actually was the plotter.
:
Is this guy still working for Marvel? I think Liefeld & Co should snap
him up for Awesome Entertainment pronto. Put him to work writing
Fighting American.
tholian
In article <67721p$g...@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>, sho...@expert.cc.purdue.edu
says...
>: >Kitchen T (kitc...@aol.com) wrote:
>:
>: Nope. James Felder is credited with "story", so I think it's safe
>: to assume he actually was the plotter.
>
>Is this guy still working for Marvel? I think Liefeld & Co should snap
>him up for Awesome Entertainment pronto. Put him to work writing
>Fighting American.
IHMO that would be a big waste of talent. I don`t know about his writing (I
did`nt get Heroes and Legends) but Felder was a very good editor when he
worked at Marvel. He had a hand in a lot of the good things at Marvel in the
last couple of years such as `the Stanhattan Project` which brought writers
like Joe Kelly and Brian Vaughan to comics, and the Karl Kesel/Cary Nord run
in Daredevil and Kelly/ Joe McGuiness run in Deadpool. He also seems to have
been the man responsible for ideas like the `behind the scenes ` type
features which are popping up all over the place now and the double-feature
annual idea ( from Daredevil/ Deadpool` 97 ) which the company is using
extensively this year.
At the moment I think he is heading up the new `Creative Differances`
writers studio with Ben Raab and Joe Kelly. I think he may have a couple of
stories coming up in Journey Into Mystery.
Hugh Sheridan