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Ten years ago today, George Caragonne killed himself.

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bval...@aol.com

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Jul 20, 2005, 1:21:46 AM7/20/05
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Ten years ago today, George Caragonne killed himself.

He was Editor In Chief of "Penthouse Comix", and a man with endless
potential. He was brilliant, tireless, uncompromising, and addicted to
drugs. When I first met him, he was a fundamentalist Christian who
refused to smoke or drink. He also talked about his plans to be a
virgin on his wedding night. The worst thing he'd ever done in those
days was to sneak, uninvited, into Marvel Comic's Christmas Party. Ten
years ago today, he rented a room at the Mariott Hotel, and leaped 45
stories into a busy food lobby. It was a literal miracle than nobody
other than George died. There were whispers at the time that George had
become a Satanist, and I'm sorry to say that I don't entirely
disbelieve those whispers.

George's publications, "Penthouse Comix", "Men's Adventure Comix" and
"Omni Comix" are arguably the best adult comics ever created. If you
have a moment, please remember George. He deserved that much.

Joker

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Jul 20, 2005, 9:44:59 AM7/20/05
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Not to speak ill of the dead, but if this fellow was a fundamentalist
christian, what was he doing creating adult comics? The contracdiction
between those two sides of his personality would be a good indicator of
something darker inside.
--
Joker
"...God hath made me to laugh, so that all that hear will laugh with me."
Gen. 21:6

b> Ten years ago today, George Caragonne killed himself.

b> He was Editor In Chief of "Penthouse Comix", and a man with endless
b> potential. He was brilliant, tireless, uncompromising, and addicted
b> to
b> drugs. When I first met him, he was a fundamentalist Christian who
b> refused to smoke or drink. He also talked about his plans to be a
b> virgin on his wedding night. The worst thing he'd ever done in those
b> days was to sneak, uninvited, into Marvel Comic's Christmas Party.
b> Ten
b> years ago today, he rented a room at the Mariott Hotel, and leaped 45
b> stories into a busy food lobby. It was a literal miracle than nobody
b> other than George died. There were whispers at the time that George
b> had
b> become a Satanist, and I'm sorry to say that I don't entirely
b> disbelieve those whispers.

b> George's publications, "Penthouse Comix", "Men's Adventure Comix" and
b> "Omni Comix" are arguably the best adult comics ever created. If you
b> have a moment, please remember George. He deserved that much.


Matt Adler

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Jul 20, 2005, 10:51:52 AM7/20/05
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Just a month ago, I learned about this, as I was googling for
information on him, because he'd written one of my favorite What If
stories, the one where the Red Skull took Steve Rogers' identity while
he was frozen, became dictator of the U.S., and set up an apartheid
state, which an unfrozen Captain America fought to overthrow with the
help of a newly assembled Avengers. Very tragic to learn of George's
demise. Strangely, another What If creator I googled for info about,
Vince Mielcarek (the artist of Kurt Busiek's "What If Professor X Had
Become The Juggernaut?") also had an untimely death, passing away at
the age of 28 in his sleep.

George

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Jul 20, 2005, 10:55:56 AM7/20/05
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On 2005-07-20 01:21:46 -0400, "bval...@aol.com" <bval...@aol.com> said:

> Ten years ago today, George Caragonne killed himself.

Mark Evanier has a moving post on this loss on his blog: www.newsfromme.com

--
Peace,

George

bval...@aol.com

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Jul 20, 2005, 12:13:59 PM7/20/05
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>>>Not to speak ill of the dead, but if this fellow was a fundamentalist
christian, what was he doing creating adult comics? The contracdiction

between those two sides of his personality would be a good indicator of

something darker inside.>>>

Trust me, one didn't need a trained eye to detect George's darker side.

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Lynley James

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Jul 20, 2005, 1:56:33 PM7/20/05
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On 19 Jul 2005 22:21:46 -0700, "bval...@aol.com" <bval...@aol.com>
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NO offense but what does sneaking into a Marvel Christmas Party have
to do with the man changing his attitudes and taking drugs?

Lynley

bval...@aol.com

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Jul 20, 2005, 5:27:25 PM7/20/05
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>>>>>>>>>>>NO offense but what does sneaking into a Marvel Christmas Party have
to do with the man changing his attitudes and taking drugs?>>>>>>

That was his starting point - it's a sharp contrast to see how far he
fell. At the end, George was taking drugs that Hunter S. Thompson
condemned in "Fear and Loathing in Los Vagas."

jentlman

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Jul 20, 2005, 8:47:13 PM7/20/05
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Matt Adler wrote:
Strangely, another What If creator I googled for info about,
> Vince Mielcarek (the artist of Kurt Busiek's "What If Professor X Had
> Become The Juggernaut?") also had an untimely death, passing away at
> the age of 28 in his sleep.

Coincidentally, I just picked that issue up at Comic-Con. What did you
think of it? Personally I thought Xavier's mental power up was a little
farfetched. He was doing things (unaided by Cerebro) that we've never
seen before or since (i.e. searching the most intelligent minds on
earth the devise a way to relieve the Fantastic Four of their powers. I
know he's positioned as "the most powerful telepath on earth" but
that's just ridiculous. Other than that, Kurt's characterization was
spot on especially considering the sheer number of characters he used.

DEAC

Matt Adler

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Jul 20, 2005, 10:13:46 PM7/20/05
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I thought it was pretty good. We were just talking not long ago on the
Thunderbolts board about the "Buzz Boys", the mutant street gang from
that issue. Kurt thinks Vince probably came up with them. I think
they'd be good for an Exiles story.

Martin Feller

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Jul 20, 2005, 11:01:29 PM7/20/05
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"Lynley James" <lynley...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I get the idea that this was intended in the vein of "the worst thing
he did was eat a malt ball from the candy bin without paying" or "the
worst thing he did was rip the tags off of his mattresses"...


kennet...@sbcglobal.net

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Jul 20, 2005, 11:43:00 PM7/20/05
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Did you know him personally?

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bval...@aol.com

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Jul 21, 2005, 12:47:55 AM7/21/05
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>>>Did you know him personally? >>>

Very well. I met George back when snuck into Marvel's Christmas party.
I was there throughout his rise, and his decline. I was the one who
spearheaded George getting help when his drug addictiion went out of
control.

bval...@aol.com

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Jul 21, 2005, 1:45:16 PM7/21/05
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>>>I get the idea that this was intended in the vein of "the worst thing
he did was eat a malt ball from the candy bin without paying" or "the
worst thing he did was rip the tags off of his mattresses"... >>>

Actually, the worst thing he ever did during that time was eat with his
mouth open.

bval...@aol.com

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Jul 21, 2005, 1:45:03 PM7/21/05
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>>>I get the idea that this was intended in the vein of "the worst thing
he did was eat a malt ball from the candy bin without paying" or "the
worst thing he did was rip the tags off of his mattresses"... >>>

Actually, the worst thing he ever did during that time was eat with his
mouth open.

Brian Doyle

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Jul 22, 2005, 3:44:45 AM7/22/05
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Xavier once linked every mind on the planet to repel the z'nox, and was able
to filter through everyone to remove people who couldn't afford to be
distracted like airline pilots and medical staff in the middle of surgery
etc.


spiritof...@hotmail.com

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Jul 26, 2005, 8:52:37 PM7/26/05
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It's a shame. George also wrote for Valiant prior to the creation of
the Valiant Universe, most notably CAPTAIN N: THE GAME MASTER for their
Nintendo Comics System line. Very good writer.


Mark

bval...@aol.com

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Jul 26, 2005, 9:05:48 PM7/26/05
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>>>It's a shame. George also wrote for Valiant prior to the creation of
the Valiant Universe, most notably CAPTAIN N: THE GAME MASTER for their

Nintendo Comics System line. Very good writer.>>>

George would have been very happy if he knew he would be remembered as
a very good writer.

coom...@gmail.com

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Jun 19, 2018, 10:21:45 AM6/19/18
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He was a terrible writer, a junkie and an embezzler who chose to kill himself in the most ostentatious way possible.
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