Best Martial Artists?
Hand-of-Omega
and DC comics? By this, I mean characters whose basic theme revolves
around the martial arts, such as Iron Fist. Actually, are there any
superheroes besides him with a martial art theme? Well, let's also
include characters who are known to heavily specialize in martial
arts, such as Batman and Daredevil.
I want to draw the line at mainly Human characters, tho. Should people
like Captain America, Deathstroke the Termintor, and Wolverine still
count for this, or are they effectively superhuman?
Lastly, is it right to say that Richard Dragon is DCs' equivalent to
Shang-Chi?
Dex
Fallen
The list of DC martial artists would be like the list of Marvel mutants.
Fallen.
Gul Dumar
> Hand-of-Omega wrote:
> > How would you rank the best martial arts-centered characters in Marvel
> > and DC comics? By this, I mean characters whose basic theme revolves
> > around the martial arts, such as Iron Fist. Actually, are there any
> > superheroes besides him with a martial art theme? Well, let's also
> > include characters who are known to heavily specialize in martial
> > arts, such as Batman and Daredevil.
>
> > I want to draw the line at mainly Human characters, tho. Should people
> > like Captain America, Deathstroke the Termintor, and Wolverine still
> > count for this, or are they effectively superhuman?
>
> > Lastly, is it right to say that Richard Dragon is DCs' equivalent to
> > Shang-Chi?
I think Karate Kid from the Legion trumpts them all, but he's like
totally super-powered I believe.
Marvel
Without ranking them, here are some Marvel Martial Artists:
Shang Chi
Iron Fist
Sons of the Tiger
both White Tigers
Daredevil
Stick
Electra
Silver Samurai
that old blind guy in Daredevil these days
Misty Knight
umm... Batroc Ze Leaper?
STRATEGY
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> > Dex
>
> The list of DC martial artists would be like the list of Marvel mutants.
>
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markharrison
I would guess that The O-Sensei tops the list. He taught Richard
Dragon, who pretty much taught everybody else.
[that old blind guy in Daredevil these days]
Whatever happened to "Stick?"
Ty...@webtv.net
things, and trying to make an order would be almost impossible. Listing
everyone is also impossible so I'm putting in those who are known to
have some training. Since this is the Marvel board, I will do only the
Marvel characters. I will do the DC characters on their board.
Mantis
Shang Chi
Black Widow 1&2
Captain America (all incarnations to a degree)
Daredevil
Stick
Iron Fist & Other Immortal Weapons
Surviving Sons of the Tiger
White Tiger 1 (deceaed)
White Tiger 2
Bullseye
Lady Bullseye
Kingpin (Sumo counts)
Nick Fury
Elektra
Viper
Hawkeye/Ronin
Patriot (new)
Misty Knight
Coleen Wing
Diamondback
Hand ninja's
Silver Samurai
Mockingbird
Black Cat
Baltroc
Black Knight and El Aquilera (basics)
Black Panther
Shuri his sister
Blonde Phantom
Ricodonna
Scorpian (new girl)
Tarantuala
La Peregrine
Collective Man
Fin Fang Foom
Jimmy Woo
Mandarin
Temujin his son
Dr. Strange & Wong
Wolverine
X-23
Puck
Falcon
Punisher (special forces streetfighting style)
Amercan Dream & Freebooter (MC2)
In no way is this a complete list, feel free to add to it.
omnidragon
Gul Dumar wrote:
> On May 22, 12:48 pm, Fallen <fal...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> > Hand-of-Omega wrote:
> > > How would you rank the best martial arts-centered characters in Marvel
> > > and DC comics? By this, I mean characters whose basic theme revolves
> > > around the martial arts, such as Iron Fist. Actually, are there any
> > > superheroes besides him with a martial art theme? Well, let's also
> > > include characters who are known to heavily specialize in martial
> > > arts, such as Batman and Daredevil.
> >
> > > I want to draw the line at mainly Human characters, tho. Should people
> > > like Captain America, Deathstroke the Termintor, and Wolverine still
> > > count for this, or are they effectively superhuman?
> >
> > > Lastly, is it right to say that Richard Dragon is DCs' equivalent to
> > > Shang-Chi?
>
>
> I think Karate Kid from the Legion trumpts them all, but he's like
> totally super-powered I believe.
>
> Karate Kid does not have any superpowers.
grinningdemon
<hando...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>How would you rank the best martial arts-centered characters in Marvel
>and DC comics? By this, I mean characters whose basic theme revolves
>around the martial arts, such as Iron Fist. Actually, are there any
>superheroes besides him with a martial art theme? Well, let's also
>include characters who are known to heavily specialize in martial
>arts, such as Batman and Daredevil.
>
>I want to draw the line at mainly Human characters, tho. Should people
>like Captain America, Deathstroke the Termintor, and Wolverine still
>count for this, or are they effectively superhuman?
In my opinion, Wolverine shouldn't make any list of the best fighters
(hand to hand or otherwise)...he really isn't much of a fighter...take
away that healing factor and he'd have died in virtually any fight
he's ever had...he's the best there is at what he does...and what he
does best is BLEED.
Ty...@webtv.net
years, he's more or less pemanatly dead, (until someone lazy writes the
book), which is why I didn't include him. Samurai counts.
Raymond Speer
The trouble with Martial Artists in a comics universe is this well-known
scene.
[ Ma Kettle looks on as Green Guacamole fights her nephew, the Texas
Jewboy. Lets have pages of this fight: TJ is thrown through plateglass
windows, kicked off a staircase, kicked through a wood wall, and long
winded GG is taunting the hero.]
GREEN GUACAMOLE: You're barely two decades old and I've been practicing
martial arts for two centuries!
GREEN GUACAMOLE (cont'd): I'm twice as fast as you are and five times as
strong!
GREEN GUACAMOLE (cont'd): I killed your mom, your dad, your piano
teacher, the crabby guy next door, the cook at the lunch room, and a
tweety bird!
[Angry always, the GG lashes out and slaps Ma Kettle on the cheek.
Beaten to a pulp, the TJ gets angry and rushes to the GG, delivering a
colossal blow. The GG flies backwards, out cold.]
TJ: Don't you ever lay a hand on a woman in front of me!
It is always the same: the Fan''s Favorite is beaten up by a Bad Guy who
insults the Favorite, who makes a comeback in round 11 and wins by a KO.
grinningdemon
Yes, he is a TRAINED fighter...but that doesn't make him a GOOD
fighter...and, since the original post asked about ranking the BEST, I
wouldn't count him.
Kenneth M. Lin
Gul Dumar
wrote:
> Stupid thread. I am more interested in finding out who's the best cook.
Top 10 Movie Martial Artists:
1. Bruce Lee
2. Jet Li
3. Liu Chia Hui (Lau Kar Fair; "Gordon" Liu)
4. "Jimmy" Wang Yu
5. "Alexander" Fu Sheng
6. Chuck Norris
7. Donnie Yen
8. Sammo Hung
9. Jackie Chan
10. Seagal/Van Damme (tie)
I know Jackie should rank higher, but I'm just not a fan....
Some of these guys compare favorably with top Marvel martial artists
(that don't have superhuman powers)
STRATEGY
Gul Dumar
I'm afraid that I'm going to have to remove the two-headed beast of
Seagal/Van Damme in deference to Bolo Yeung.
How could I forget the Chinese Hercules!
STRATEGY
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> STRATEGY
Scott Eiler
wrote:
> Stupid thread. I am more interested in finding out who's the best cook.
How about best masseuse? In no particular order:
* Reed Richards. Those rubber hands must be good for something.
* Daredevil. Hyper-sensitive touch is probably good for something
too.
* Spider-Man. Twice as powerful as any other masseuse, because he
can push *and* pull the skin with a single touch!
On the other end of the scale, we have Iron Man, Ghost Rider, and the
Man-Thing.
vo...@webtv.net
despite a karate black belt, he was not really that great a martial
artist and is only important as a historical figure in martial arts
cinema. Sonny Chiba, Angela Mao Ying, Sho Kosugi, Cynthia Rothrock (as
first great American woman martial artist), could also make any list.
Gul Dumar
Jimmy opened the door for Bruce Lee and the rest. While not an
accomplished Martial artist, he was quite the streetfighter, I hear.
Sonny Chiba was an oversight, good call.
I definitely considered Sho & Mao Ying. Hell, I was practically in
love with Angela as a kid.
By the way, i was not ranking them on skill level, per se.
Yuen Biao & Tomisoburo Wakayama definitely deserve serious
consideration as well.
STRATEGY
vo...@webtv.net
gallant spearman was important in the historical context as I said.
Tyval loved Mao Ying more than anyone. He created a heroine for his
fanfics called 'China Doll' as tribute to her.