What series in Marvel's history do you think was the all time worst?
> What series in Marvel's history do you think was the all time worst?
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Actually, both of these were minis, and therefore had the bonus of
having an end to the pain in sight. Secret Defenders was ongoing, and
therefore enjoyed the promise of a new, new pain each month. I can't
say that I'm truly masochistic enough to be able to come up with a
worst, although I'm sure SD is up there. How about either Silver Sable
and the Wild Pack or Knights of Pendragon II?
>My vote goes for "Secret Defenders." What a stinker that was. I could not
>comprehend that title at all. What's sad is that I stuck through the end
>just to see if it got worse. Ya betta believe it did ! Dr. Druid took over
>the team from Dr. Strange. Wow that series was so bad!
>
> Hi! First time poster. Id have to say IMHO that the worst one was the
> Hercules Prince of Power Mini-series from 1982.
I love the Hercules mini-series. Both of them.
There are plenty of bad Marvel series out there. Howabout all of those
crappy Marvel "horror" books like Ghost Riders, Spirits of Vengeance,
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>Alan Travis wrote:
How about either Silver Sable
>and the Wild Pack or Knights of Pendragon II?
I actually enjoyed the Silver Sable series. How about Terror Inc??
And let us not forget the truly abysmal X-Force (courtesy of You-know-who)
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Hey, if Street Poet Ray counts, you can throw the entire Marvel UK on
the fire.
Force Works! That was truly awful. Tom "Ten Thousand Year Old" Tenney
made everyone look like they just stepped out of a Mummy movie. I'm
glad someone took his pencils away.
Never read FALLEN ANGELS. I remember that Sunspot almost killed
Cannonball, but I can't remember why. Obviously, this was Reignfire
forshadowing. Roberto couldn't have killed Sam, though, because
Cannonball is one of them Externals.
I actually bought Night Cat. I'm such a loser.
You forgot about US1.
---Alan
How about either Silver Sable and the Wild Pack or Knights of Pendragon
II?
Oh, well, if we can include the Marvel UK, I'd like to vote for it.
Every single issue that came out of Marvel UK, except for a handful of
Motormouth issues drawn by Gary Frank.
What about that Razorline crap that Clive Barker and Marvel inflicted on
an unsuspecting audience? Hypernauts, anyone?
Will I get flamed if I say I hated Terror, Inc? ---Alan
> Nah, I at least found one or two interesting things in there under all
> the bunk. How about: Wolfpack?
I thought Wolfpack was actually okay (okay, I grabbed the graphic novel from
the local library and didn't spend a cent on it). But then, I was a lot
younger then.
But now that I look back, it's still not a bad series.
> Actually, both of these were minis, and therefore had the bonus of
> having an end to the pain in sight. Secret Defenders was ongoing, and
> therefore enjoyed the promise of a new, new pain each month. I can't
> say that I'm truly masochistic enough to be able to come up with a
> worst, although I'm sure SD is up there. How about either Silver Sable
> and the Wild Pack or Knights of Pendragon II?
Just about ANYTHING put out by Marvel UK in 1993. WildThing was enough for
me.
But yeah, Secret Defenders was pretty rancid. I couldn't believe I held
onto it for about seven issues. Now they're taking up space in my closet
alongside all the comics I can't get rid of (old Punisher comics, a Turok
#1, comics with Rob Liefeld's name in the credit page, etc.).
Now that we are getting a good idea of the worst Marvel books ever, a better
question is what do we do with them? Garage sale? Recycle? Donate and get
a tax deductable reciept?
Peace,
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>Brad Douglas wrote:
>
>> What series in Marvel's history do you think was the all time worst?
>
>Steeltown Rockers
Team America. "We've got the mutant power to... uh, make a guy on a
motorcycle show up."
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There aren't a whole lot of titles to draw on to answer this question,
since I won't buy a title if I think it sucks. However, I remember
reading my cousin's copies of Secret Wars II when it came out,
and absolutely loathing it. Glutton for punishment that I am, I still
bought the last issue (I always did have a soft spot for extra-long
comics).
And it's still the only comic that I ever tore up and threw away.
Steve MacNeil
> Now that we are getting a good idea of the worst Marvel books ever, a better
> question is what do we do with them? Garage sale? Recycle? Donate and get
> a tax deductable reciept?
Hmmm...is chromium safe to use as kindling?
Jim Smith
I wouldn't say Crystar was the worst. It had potential like the Micronauts,
but that was lightning in a bottle.
Mark S.
Lastly, the Clone Saga (all parts of it)
Jay K. Ro
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Marvel All-time? Spitfire and the Troubleshooters
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>My vote goes for "Secret Defenders." What a stinker that was. I could not
>comprehend that title at all. What's sad is that I stuck through the end
>just to see if it got worse. Ya betta believe it did ! Dr. Druid took over
>the team from Dr. Strange. Wow that series was so bad!
Oh man, I forgot about that one. You're right; it was a total stinker,
absolute dreck, although I'm not sure that it was *the* worst that
Marvel's ever produced. It would definitely be on my top five list,
though.
Too bad I'm at work right now, or I could leaf through my collection and
find what I thought to be the worst Marvel of all. Maybe later; it might
be an amusing project. One possibility is that book that featured the
teenaged Franklin Richards and a bunch of other teen superheros, but I
don't remember the name. I think it was Power Pack or something like that.
Another candidate would be FF UNLIMITED (or any of the other "unlimited"
books for that matter). Whew! What a stinker!
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>Team America. "We've got the mutant power to... uh, make a guy on a
>motorcycle show up."
ROTFL
My vote: The Incredible Hulk vs Quasimodo
Not a series, but a one-shot that'll make you puke.
How about the entire 2099 line after Joey Cavaliery
had been fired and most of the artists showed
solidarity with Joey?
Thomas
>My vote goes for "Secret Defenders." What a stinker that was. I could not
>comprehend that title at all. What's sad is that I stuck through the end
>just to see if it got worse. Ya betta believe it did ! Dr. Druid took over
>the team from Dr. Strange. Wow that series was so bad!
>
>What series in Marvel's history do you think was the all time worst?
>
>
In recent times: Thor/Silver Surfer '98, late Marvel 2099AD-quality
artwork, and an uninspired story conceived by J.M DeMatteis
(on one of his off-days, clearly!) and told by Tom DeFalco at
his most uninspired.
> Too bad I'm at work right now, or I could leaf through my collection and
> find what I thought to be the worst Marvel of all. Maybe later; it might
> be an amusing project. One possibility is that book that featured the
> teenaged Franklin Richards and a bunch of other teen superheros, but I
> don't remember the name. I think it was Power Pack or something like that.
Fantastic Force, I believe. Power Pack was about a four super-powered
kids with tne last name "Power."
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> Hey, Alan!
>
> Here are a few suggestions:
>
> Night Cat
> The Marvel Fumetti Book
> Strikeforce Morituri
> Black Goliath
> Force Works
> Night Nurse
> Fallen Angels
> Street Poet Ray
Alf, Mad Dog, Meteor Man, Skrull Kill Krew, Silver Sable & The Wild Pack,
Hellstorm, Secret Defenders, Wonder Man, Marvel Comics Presents.
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Hey, let's toss the Abominations in there. Oh, and any random Heroes Reborn
title.
Tim
Secret Defenders wasn't so bad, and I didn't see Thor/SS '98, but my vote for
worst Marvel title ever is Liefeld's version of Craptain America. Want to
see Steve Rogers in a bad remake of Total Recall with pitiful art thrown in
for good measure? If so, get thee to the quarter bins, there's lots of 'em
left!
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Secret Defenders takes the cake. How about that great scene where Dr
Strange teleports the Punisher into his house and says, "I'm Dr Strange."
Frank replies, "I don't believe in Dr Strange." Huh?! The guy just
tewleported you into his house!
K.
Alan Travis wrote in message <35F726...@earthlink.net>...
>Brad Douglas wrote:
>
>> What series in Marvel's history do you think was the all time worst?
>
>Steeltown Rockers
>
>
>---Alan
NFL SuperPro was just plain stupid.
Force Works was the ugliest thing I've ever looked at. I just could
NOT get through it.
Alf will someday be recognized for the fine work that it is. Ha!
The Human Fly from the early 80's also comes to mind, ranks up there with
SuperPro.
Before the switch to Heroes Reborn/Return, the Avengers were sucking rocks.
The first few issues of McFarlan's Spider Man were tedious. And, anything
by Leifield bites the big one, in my book. I have stacks of stuff that just
wasn't worth the paper it was printed on.
Tim
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Terror Inc. was actually pretty good, about a quest for redemption for a
not so nice character. It was a neat crime/horror comic well written by
Dan Chichester with a sense of humor. If you like Deadpool, this is a
darker, less funny version of that.
--Dan
*Sigh* I tried. I really tried not to respond to this thread, but I have
some of my own that I remember (but man, this one's bringing back
memories)
I agree with a few of those mentioned before. (Skull Kill Krew,
NFLSuperpro) But I had to add a few of my own that amost made me give up
comic reading altogether.
Dakota North
X-Force post-Nicieza.
Any Ultraverse title after Black September.
Night Man/ Gambit
Abd my personal nuke.
Mort the Dead Teenager.
Ick.
Just ick...
Dreamer
"All her life, she had believed people who daydreamed were weak and
mindless fools. Now she knew she was wrong. There was strength to be
found in dreams. Lots of it. And when there was nothing else in
life-only violence and the fear of it-the strength drawn from make believe
worlds was enough to carry on."
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Fantastic Force
Fantastic Four Unlimited(for ignoring continuity blatantly)
War Machine once he got the alien warwear
Iron Manual(good for explaining, but very dull)
Any STAR title except Masters of the Universe
Sleepwalker