PREACHER: Jody's lighter
Sean Med
Oh, you mean... Yeah, that was a cool little detail.
Sean M
Oliver Lippold
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>Another interesting angle on this is the origin of the lighter.
>Some time during the Vietnam War, The Duke made a morale boosting
>visit to some of the troops. To all those he met he presented a
>commemorative zippo lighter engraved with 'fuck communism'.
>Normally I would let this little piece of trainspotter-esque trivia
>go but in view of Jessie's imaginary(?) friend, I thought it may be
>relevant.
Also relevant: Garth Ennis/Phil Winslade published a story in Crisis
( a British comic, August1991) called Light Me about a washed-up
Vietnam vet. brooding on the time in Vietnam when he met John Wayne
and received the very same lighter from him. The Duke said "Light Me"
to him and he's been reliving that moment ever since.
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Demian Stimson
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>I recall some remark recently (although I don't remember who made it)
>in which somebody mentioned a respect for Jody, based in part on his
>lighter, which is engraved with the phrase, "Fuck Communism."
>
>Well, I reread the whole arc yesterday, and noticed that the lighter
>originally belonged to Jesse's dad (as shown in the flashback to his return
>from Vietnam somewhere in issue 9). Just an interesting detail.
>
>Michael C
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Another interesting angle on this is the origin of the lighter.
Some time during the Vietnam War, The Duke made a morale boosting
visit to some of the troops. To all those he met he presented a
commemorative zippo lighter engraved with 'fuck communism'.
Normally I would let this little piece of trainspotter-esque trivia
go but in view of Jessie's imaginary(?) friend, I thought it may be
relevant.
Makes you think, and that's all I ask of anything.
Dem
Tannhauser
by John Wayne to American soldiers in Vietnam on his morale-raising
visits; this seems to tie in quite neatly.....
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James Dawson
>Another interesting angle on this is the origin of the lighter.
>Some time during the Vietnam War, The Duke made a morale boosting
>visit to some of the troops. To all those he met he presented a
>commemorative zippo lighter engraved with 'fuck communism'.
I'd never heard that one before -- in fact, the "origin" I remembered
for "Fuck Communism"(although I freely admit that I have no idea
where I read this) was that it was a free-speech paradox to use
against would-be censors in America during the '60s. In other words,
conservatives at the time would want to ban the slogan because it
contained the word "fuck" -- but if they did so, they could be
accused of being soft on communism, because they'd be opposing the
message "fuck communism."
I've been hoping that someone else with more details about this would
post to this thread. Anyone out there? It sounds like a Jerry Rubin/
Abbie Hoffman-type thing, but, again, I am not sure of any details.
(Did Ennis himself ever mention this anywhere?)